PhoenixGeoff

I personally think you set a fine moral example for the nation's children. (Seriously...I'd love it if more guys grew up to be like you )

Agree completely. I've used chems before. I try to avoid them nowadays mostly because I find that they limit the sex I can have. Can tops be sluts? You betcha! But many guys (myself included) have a hard time getting it up when they're fucked up. That cuts out a lot of the pleasure I derive from sex right there. Drugs (including alcohol) can absolutely help you overcome inhibitions. And that's a good thing! But at a certain point, your inhibitions should be gone and the need for the drugs should go away too. They're a kind of stepping stone to a higher plane of pigginess. I've gotten far more pleasure and ecstasy from pure raw uninhibited piggy sex than I have from any chem. And then there's the unfortunate truth that sometimes the drugs become the point of the exercise rather than the sex. For men like us, that should never be the case. Probably the best comment on this thread. This is a man with his priorities straight! So when do I get to fuck that hot cub ass of yours, bottomcub85?

Yeah, I guess one of the things I like so much about being a real pig is how many different things can be such a turn-on. Mine tend to revolve a lot around masculinity. Pretty much all of the secondary male characteristics will get me hard, from facial and body hair and receding hairlines (or shaved heads), to deep voices, to the shape and build of male bodies of all types. Hell, even a good beer gut is a turnon, because that's where men carry their body fat. Tattoos, piercings, blue collar types, uniforms, leather, bad boys of all types. Sexually aggressive guys, (and aggression in general...got into wrestling around with a guy at the bar a few weeks ago and was very hot, especially since we were both in a jockstrap). Sluts, whores and pigs. And that's not even getting into my kinks.

It's just fine. And speaking from experience, I can assure you that have a top who knows what he's doing is far more important than size. And you, sir, know what you're doing.

Going off Pig Bottom's list as far as I'm concerned: Determined and forceful Emotional and intuitive Powerful and passionate Exciting and magnetic Of the four areas listed, the "powerful and passionate" one definitely describes my approach to sex. But outside of the bedroom, not so much. Same for "determined and forceful". As far as "emotional and intuitive" are concerned, I am a bit of a still-waters-run-deep type of person; I don't wear my heart on my sleeve, but I can have very deep emotions. They just don't often get let out. As for "exciting and magnetic," I'd have to let others who know me say. Personally, I think I tend to be dull as dishwater (unless your interests happen to align with my own kind of off-the-beaten-track interests). Jealous and resentful Compulsive and obsessive Secretive and obstinate "Jealous and resentful" is not me at all. If anything, I am the complete polar opposite of jealous. "Compulsive and obsessive" and "secretive and obstinate" do both fit me pretty well though.

The other part of the problem is that bottoms can be pretty insatiable. It's not hard at all for me to bend over and take three guys in quick succession (and I'm pretty tall and usually have to bend my knees to get my ass down to the same height as the top's cock so my legs wear out pretty quick). On the other hand, there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to breed three different bottoms in the same time frame. For one thing, in most positions the top is doing a lot more work. And, of course there's recovery time between when I shoot and when I'm ready to get hard again and go at it. I'll be honest: when I'm topping quite a bit, I've worked pretty hard to learn how to edge without shooting just so I can get around to enjoying multiple bottoms. If I came in every guy I fucked, I'd be fucking a lot fewer men. So even if the number of tops is the same as the number of bottoms (and I don't think that's true at all), it's still going to be hard to get all the action you'd like to get. That's the main reason I like encouraging bottoms to cultivate a little versatility. If everyone did that, we'd all get fucked a fair bit more.

Yeah, he seems to hold them regularly. If so, I'll definitely be back next time I can arrange to be in PS

So I've noticed that one particular idea that seems to keep hanging around is the idea of astrology. There are hook-up sites that let you search on that basis (like Adam 4 Adam). There are tons of people I seem to know on Facebook who have their daily horoscopes go by. Now, most anyone with a scientific background (particularly in physics or astronomy) will tell you astrology is bunk. But the idea seems to persist. I'm curious to know if there are guys around here that believe it works. Also interested to see if any particular signs are over-represented among gay barebacking pigs. FWIW, I'm a Scorpio (which seems to be just about the only sign everyone knows about, and I'll admit that I live up to the reputation)

True story, but from before I tested poz (and when I was living in a different city). I'd been hanging out at the bar on a Thursday night, but wasn't getting very far. I'd been looking for a hot ass to breed, as it had been a little while since I'd topped. But things weren't going my way. I was in a country-western place, and happened to catch the eye of a very hot cub in a checked button down and a white cowboy hat. Just a few years younger than me, maybe late 20s or so. Nice trimmed beard and a bit of chest hair showing at the collar of his shirt. Short, stocky powerful build. He was sitting in a corner alone and seemed kind of nervous. I walked up and introduced myself. Drew him out a bit in conversation. Had a couple drinks and bought him a shot before I started making any moves. I knew he wanted me as much as I wanted him, but he just needed the liquid courage to take me up on it. Once he was ready, I made my move. And before you knew it he'd jumped in my pickup and was telling me how to get to his place. I kept it tame on the way back, nothing more than a hand on his thigh, but I could see from the bulge in his Wranglers that he couldn't wait. We got back to his place and he pulled me into the bedroom. Our clothes flew off as we kissed. He had the broad shoulders of a muscle cub, but with just the right amount of body fat to tell you he earned his muscles through work, not in a gym. A nice layer of hair covered his chest, ass, forearms and legs. My hand drifted down to his crack and his cock throbbed and he grunted in pleasure as I lightly fingered his hole. I played with his ass as he sucked my cock. I told him how badly I wanted to fuck him and he reached for the condom and lube on the nightstand. I told him I wanted him bare, but he was too nervous. And so I agreed to wear the condom. It's a sign of just how badly I wanted to get inside his ass that the rubber didn't kill my hardon like they usually do. I put him on his back with his legs on my shoulders and eased my cock inside him. That hole felt perfect, even through the latex. I started fucking him nice and slow and gentle at first, but soon with more speed and more force with every thrust. His ass felt so good...looked so good with my cock slamming in him. His eyes were rolled back in his head in pleasure as I fucked him as hard as a could. I pulled out and flipped him on his hands and knees and then slid in him again. Usually looking down and watching my cock pound a hot hairy ass is one of my favorite parts about fucking, but it just looked wrong with the rubber. I found myself craving, dying to know how much better his ass would feel with nothing separating it from my cock. I wanted him raw and I'd do anything to get it. I started big long strokes with the whole shaft of my cock. I'd pull out almost all the way and then slam my cock back into him as hard as I could, listening to each satisfying grunt as my dick slid home. His ass was really well opened up by now and his face was buried in a pillow. I started pulling out altogether and then slamming the entire shaft of my cock into him from tip to hilt. Each stroke, I was only outside his body for a millisecond, but I saw my chance. And on one outward stroke, I ripped the condom off just in that millisecond and buried my now-bare cock into his hot ass without missing a beat. His ass on my raw cock was even better than I'd imagined. He looked so fucking hot with his ass in the air and my dick pounding him bareback. Inevitably, I couldn't stop myself from cumming. And I did it with my cock buried inside him as deep as it could possibly go. I felt my cock swelling as the pleasure flooded up from my cock to my brain, and felt a massive load exploding in his guts. I've taken loads like that up my ass, and I knew damn well he'd felt exactly what I'd done to him. I fucked the cum deeper into him with a few easy strokes, but I was completely exhausted by my efforts. I pulled out of him and looked down at my cock, glistening with the load I'd just shot. A small trickle of cum was leaking out his ass but I pretended to take off the rubber and used my cockhead to wipe it up. We were both covered in sweat. After that, we both showered and we made a little conversation, but the trick was over and I left soon after to crash out sound asleep at my place. He didn't say a word about what I'd done and neither did I. But that's not the end of the story. A couple months later, I was wandering around the local bath looking for some action. And I came across room with the door open and two men having sex. A big well-hung Latino guy was fucking the occupant of the room. I stopped to watch and noticed they were fucking bare. The bottom was on all fours with his face buried in a pillow, but before long I recognized that hot ass. He was moaning and begging the top to shoot inside him, which the top quickly did. He pulled out and I shoved into him. I could feel the wetness and warmth of multiple loads in his ass. He turned his head to look and see who was fucking him next and his eyes widened and hole twitched when he saw me. I grinned and redoubled my fucking until I bred him again. We hung out together in his room for a bit afterwards which is how I found out that that first load I'd stealthed into him had woken him up to what real sex was supposed to feel like. From that moment, he'd been addicted. A barebacking pig was born. I beamed with pride as he licked the cum off my cock while I buried my face in his dripping, cum-filled hairy manhole.

Virgins are a turn-off for me. The sluttier a man is, the more he'll turn me on. A guy I was fucking recently kept telling me about all the loads in his ass and how many guys have fucked him. Shit like that will make me cum in a heartbeat, especially if I can feel all the cum in his ass. I'm usually pretty good at holding back my load until *I* want to shoot it, but that guy made me lose control, and that's a skill virgins just don't have. Age is less of an issue, although more guys over 30 or so know what they're doing and are more open to my kind of fun. But there are plenty of younger guys with the right experience and attitude, and I'll gladly have sex with them, especially if they have the right cubbish look.

I was going to go to that party but got an invite on BBRT from a guy throwing parties in his house and decided to go there instead. Sounds like it was the right decision. There were probably about 15-20 guys there at the height of the action, but they all had exactly the right attitude. Lots of slings and areas for sex. All of the sex was raw (there was lots of fisting going on there too, but I didn't get into that while I was there). I had my cock buried in at least half a dozen guys (kinda lost track) over about three hours and had at least four or five loads pumped up my ass, including one particular hot scene where one guy bent me over and bred me with a really thick cock with a big mushroom head, followed by two guys right after him who I didn't see. All in all, this versatile pig had probably the perfect balance of topping and bottoming that night, for the first time in a very long time. My ass was nice and wet and dripping and my balls were pretty much empty (though any cum on my cock from fucking other pigs was very thoroughly cleaned off) Most of the guys were bearish and on the older side, but if that's not your cup of tea, Palm Springs is probably not a good place for you, at least as far as the locals are concerned. Personally, I was looking for men with my kinda attitude towards sex and these guys fit the bill to a T.

Bred a lot of ass and took quite a few loads on my trip to Palm Springs, but the last was a hot latino guy who fucked me in a sling in a public are at the resort and shot a nice big wad deep inside me.

I'm uncut as well and know exactly what you're talking about when it comes to that sense of pain. But I top all the time (just got back from a trip to California where I lost count of how many guys I buried my cock in). Basically, the trick is the initial part of getting your cock all the way inside the guy's ass. Once the sphincter's gripping your shaft and not your head and foreskin, you should be fine. Tight asses are NOT your friend. Lots of bottoms assume that that's what tops want. But, especially if you're uncut, shoving your cock inside a tight hole often pulls the foreskin farther back than it's meant to go, which hurts like crazy. You want two things: a nice open hole and plenty of lubricant. Lube should be liberally applied all along the bottom's chute, right to the point where it opens up inside him. And it should be all over both the exterior of your cock and under the skin and all over your head, to help make sure that the foreskin slides back easily. What you're looking to avoid here is dry skin, which causes friction and makes things "seize up" as you're going in. Stay away from water based lubes, which dry out pretty quickly. You want something pretty hardcore that will last. Look at lubes used for fisting, like elbow grease. (I'm into fisting as well as fucking and a traditionalist, so I like Crisco, but that's got a whole other set of issues and is also kinda likely to scare people away) As for the open hole, there are a number of ways to handle that. If it's a long one-on-one session, I'd suggest a lot of gentle and sensitive foreplay. Use your fingers to open him up very slowly and carefully (make sure your nails are trimmed and smoothed with an emery board...pain of any type will make him close up). Try toys if he's into them. Both of those can also be used to lube him up as well. Learn the fine art of rimming, which, once you master it, is very effective in getting a bottom to relax his ass. And make sure he's in a comfortable position when you go to fuck him. The more relaxed his body is, the more he'll be able to relax his hole. Alternatively, find yourself a good gang-bang bottom. If you follow another top, especially one who fucks hard and rough and who's decently hung, you'll find your cock slides in much more easily, especially if the guy's got a few loads in his ass already. Go for bottoms who have a lot of experience getting fucked bareback. You need a good slut who'll know how to open up for you and can help get your cock right where it needs to be. Let him know what your problems are and what you want from him. Once you have more experience yourself, you'll know how to handle the more inexperienced bottoms if you want to go back to them (I've found that I really don't..."Virgin with a tight ass" is the quickest way to turn me off) As for being a bottom, my suggestion to you is that you need to give that a break right now for a good long time. Keep the play away from your ass. No cocks, fingers, toys or anything else. By all means, see the doctor again and make sure they understand your sexual interests (it will help them make a better recommendation for how to proceed). If you don't have a doctor you can talk to about that kind of thing, drop the one you have and find one. And always keep in mind that there are TONS of sexual activities out there that have nothing to do with your ass. Try approaching some of the kinks out there with a bit of an open mind (my own general rule is that I'll try just about anything twice). There are BDSM scenes, water sports, fisting and toys (if you want to play with another guy's ass...IMO, fisting is the most intimate sex there is bar none), not to mention the good old standbys like kissing, cocksucking and jacking off. Maybe this is a sign that you need to expand your horizons a bit more.

Baths in Denver are kind of a disappointment compared with how they can be in other cities. There are three of them. The Triple C is downtown. Basically, it's not worth your time unless you're a tweaker. If you are a tweaker, it's a good place to score; drugs are sold pretty openly. Also, bedbugs. The one advantage: occasional bareback porn. The Midtowne is on the west side, just past I-25 and north of Speer on Zuni. Probably a bit more popular with the bearish crowd, although younger guys do go there too, particularly Latinos. I've shown up at times I would have assumed would be pretty quiet and had a pretty decent time (last time was a recent Monday afternoon where I ended up breeding a pretty hot anonymous ass). Good public sex opportunities that are well used, including a sling and lots of gloryholes and dark corners (all down in the basement). The Denver Swim Club is out east on Colfax. Tends to get a bit of a younger crowd, although there are older guys there too. Public sex facilities are pretty much just a dark room (that is pretty well used) and a sling in an amazingly tight corner that manages to prevent much of any showing off. The big advantage is the two swimming pools, one indoor and one outdoor, which is nice, particularly in summertime. All of the baths have scary signs warning that you will be kicked out if you bareback. I've never seen that rule enforced. If you're a top, you'll do fairly well. I rarely have trouble finding a guy who wants my cock and load. If you're a bottom, depending on your looks you'll probably get one or two. A couple more if you're lucky. But I don't hit any of the baths and expect a gang-bang (either as the bottom or one of the tops). I personally think the problem is that the environment here, including within the gay scene, is pretty conservative. Sex parties or baths elsewhere (I hit a party in Palm Springs last weekend that catered mostly to locals) attract a lot of piggy guys. If that's the scene you want, you can probably find that here too, but not at the baths and on a smaller scale.

Just a quick bump. I arrive there on this Friday. Anyone in the area interested? Lemme know. Any suggestions for fun places to visit are welcome too.

Yeah, I'm much more about attitude these days instead of looks (don't get me wrong...hot looking guys will always turn my head and a hot man with attitude puts me in hog heaven). I'm also lucky because I tend to get into guys who are older (30s, 40s, 50s mostly) and more stocky/bear types, and oftentimes they don't really get as much attention because they don't have those classic gay bodies and looks. I'll admit to having had sex with guys that I'd consider unattractive, normally in a bathhouse setting or something similar. Personally, the way I look at it is as a form of karma. At some point I'm gonna be the unattractive guy that no-one really wants to have sex with. I'm going to need other younger guys to keep me getting laid. So it's a kind of paying it forward. Besides, a lot of older guys really know what they're doing. A lifetime of sex (especially if they were active in the '70s and '80s) will really teach a guy how to have a good time. I've picked up more than one technique that way.

It may still be an open relationship. Commitment comes in lots of different varieties. I'm committed to my partner, but that don't stop me from fucking around (and he knows I do).

Hot story Fightnirish. Wish I coulda been there to watch you get plowed then slam my own cock in that sloppy fuckhole. Mine was a quick trip to the local bath, which is right along the route I bike downtown. Left a little early so I could hit the place cause a couple fuckbuds visiting from Wyoming had gotten a room there. We three got busy right away and pretty soon my cock was buried in the bottom' hot ass. We'd left the door and windows wide open so we attracted a bit of a crowd to watch me plowing the pig bare. I could feel a load or two in his ass from someone else, so I'd pull out from time to time to give him a chance to see how good he tasted. While I was doing that, one of the guys watching stepped up to fuck him (raw of course) with a nice big fat cock. We tag-teamed him a bit and gave it to him from both ends til the other guy came in his ass. After he pulled out, I shoved my cock back in so I could feel the cum inside his hole (damn that felt good), but he was getting kinda worn out and needed a break. Wandered around a bit, got into a little oral with a few guys but nothing to serious. then came across a guy lying face down in a dark but public area with a towel over his head. Perfect. Mounted his ass and he opened right up. Pounded him for a good 10-15 minutes before unleashing a nice big load I'd worked up inside his ass. Knew I'd done a good job because when my cock came outta him, a nice little wad of cum came with it can dripped on my thigh. Hot! Anyways, had to go after that, but all in all a much better time than I'd expected to find at that time of day.

Ain't being a gay pig awesome? Anyways, other than practice, I second the suggestion to try different positions. Sometimes I run into that problem myself. Seems to be not so much an issue of length as the shape of the cock and where it hits me. Just flip over from your hands and knees to your back or vice versa and that fixes the problem. Besides, running through a lot of positions is fun!

If you have the money, consider getting a room with a sling. Hanging out in a sling is a pretty universal sign that you want your ass fucked, plus it's pretty comfortable too. On the other hand, if the bath has a sling in a public area, it's bad form to monopolize it for yourself and not let other bottoms take a turn. If there are tops there fucking you, by all means, stay there until they're done. But if you're just waiting for someone to come along, don't hang out there all night. Someone else may already have a guy lined up and ready to go, and you wouldn't want to be the one preventing them from putting on a show. Finally, if you're capable of it, try to top another bottom at least once while you're there, even if it's not really your thing. Many baths will tend to have an excess of bottoms around and a shortage of tops. And then consider that it's a lot easier for a guy to take multiple loads than it is to cum multiple times. So you can see how a real shortage can pile up. Help out your fellow pigs with getting their asses creamed. Consider it "paying it forward" or good karma or whatever. Besides lots of bottom guys are perfectly capable of topping and may be more inclined to fuck you if you fuck them, and then you've got a hot flip-fucking scene going.

LOL, I remember the Crew Club from back when I was stationed in DC about 12 years ago. Incredibly lame, lots of guys who seemed to think that the point of a bathhouse was to walk around and judge everyone. I really do not understand why guys would go to a bath and then not have sex. Maybe throwing attitude is just some kink that I don't get.

Fine, you like treating men like women then. And a certain kind of woman (obviously not the liberated feminist type). I can see the attraction to that. You still get to conform more closely to male roles. Your masculinity isn't quite as threatened. You get to introduce a little romance. You can even answer the question if some straight guy asks you, "So which one's the woman?" But frankly, your description of what you like to do in your post read like a Harlequin romance. Personally, I've never seen the point of treating other guys like women or effeminacy or submission or any kind of gay relationship that doesn't celebrate the masculine nature of all of the participants. But then again, I've kind of dove into this whole homosexuality thing whole hog, which means that I like all parties involved to be aggressive and masculine and all that stuff. And that's not everyone's thing, and that's cool. De gustibus non disputandum.

Damn...I hadn't realized I had farther to go. "Sex addict" always seemed like a great designation to me. So after you reach "whore" status, does that mean you get paid for posting?

LOL...ain't US drug policies great? Herbal remedies are perfectly fine and sold completely without restrictions (except for a tiny disclaimer in 2 point font stating that the FDA hasn't checked them out). Unless, that is, they actually work and compete with the pharmaceutical companies' much more expensive prescriptions. Then they get pulled from the market.

Sounds like what you really want is a woman.