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By all means give Ramrod a chance. Just know that it's not the fuckjoint it used to be. I'd reinforce 50latinos' suggestion. Give Eagle a try. And, if you're here in Ft. L. any night between Thurs and Sunday (inclusive), you need to get over to Slammer. It's by far the best fuckjoint in town, imho.

Agreed. At this point in his devolvement into dementia, I doubt anyone thinks the Orange Comb-Over thinks about the Middle East at all. He'll take money from literally anyone, tell them anything to get it, and forget it immediately after. Just because he said whatever a minute ago doesn't mean he'll live up to it a minute into the future. As to Harris' position, I think she's holding back. She knows she can't be seen to be at major variance with Biden's position on the question, at least in any substantial way. She doesn't want to lie either, so she just murmurs something mushy and changes the subject. I'll bet when Jan 20 rolls around, she'll kick Nettie in the balls though. I agree as well that Biden could have handled all of this better. When the first "you do X and I'll do Y" fell through, I'm surprised that Biden kept up the charade to the extent he has. While the major media says every so often that they've been "friends for many years", I can't help but wonder. That said, if Nettie is going to do something really dramatic, it has to be before Jan 20th. I don't think Harris will accept aggression, let alone underwrite it. She's more interested in figuring out a workable solution resulting in (at least semi) permanent peace. Oddly, some of the guys on BZ think that Biden is shoveling money at the Israeli's. That's hardly the case. The Israeli Military isn't getting truckloads of money; they're getting a "credit", against which they can draw for US military equipment. It's not like the US is paying them to buy military equipment from other countries.

The OP implies that we weren't "born" to love pigsex with our brothers, and that something "happened" somewhere along the line that "turned" us into raw pigs. While that may be true to some degree, I think that the capacity to love m2m pigsex is an "inborn" gift, that many (maybe most) men are devoid of. Not only this gift, but any understanding or tolerance of what they don't possess themselves. This could lead to repression of those who possess (and practice) the gift, like any other jealousy, but I think that cultural conditioning plays a big part in whether a guy can accept his nature, and become a sexual pig or not. That said, "cultural conditioning" is something many of us grew up with, yet here we are - celebrating our love of pigsex with our (virtual) brothers. Thus, cultural conditioning is something that can be unlearned, and allow the inborn need for wanton celebration of our natural selves to become a perfectly natural practice - remarkable only to those who either were not "gifted" in this way, or who haven't yet learned to accept others as they are. All of which is to say that WE'RE the "normal" ones .... we're the ones who are free.

Welcome, new guys ... We'll be watching for more from you !!

This was pointed out in some other, similar thread ... Don't forget that when hiv appeared, almost everybody simply stopped fucking. I don't mean slacked off - I mean stopped. Period. While guys that had paired off at least had their other halves to have sex with (after testing, of course), single guys either bagged it (not all that many resorted to condoms - the normal, backroom-kind of sex just dried up seemingly overnight) it or didn't have sex at all. Lots of guys didn't dare trust condoms (they can break, obviously). It was the worst for guys that were single, and had no one to get through the hellscape with. "Having sex" went from Nirvana to Hell-vana, and very, very quickly, unless a guy was in a closd, trusting relationship. One guy from our neighborhood simply laid down and died right in our driveway. One of the gay newspapers went out of business (they carried all the announcements of "Celebration of Life" services) because no one wanted to pick it up, go through all the pages of horror anymore. That kind of mortality really kills the fun of wanton breeding. For most of us that experienced it, those scars have crusted over by now, but we'll never forget, either.

I too adore a relatively loose Hole, but how it gets that way is important too. It's reasonable to assume that a Hole that's loose has taken a lot of Cocks in the immediate past, and some of them have pumped their load up there. When I kneel down to eat a Hole, I can tell right away whether I'm the first of the night or the 21st of the night. I know perfectly well that not every Cock pumps Sperm in every Hole it ruts in, but there's no mistaking when a guy sticks his tongue up there and tastes loads off previous Cocks mixed with the taste of the Hole itself. If any guy thinks poppers offer a "rush", try shoving your tongue up a richly-bred Hole. You'll never bother with the little brown bottle again.

I have utmost respect for folks who can (and do) offer this kind of in-depth information, let alone actual experience. Just reading this makes me light-headed - literally. May Whatever bless and keep those who take care of the rest of us. Merely a tiny cut on a finger or something makes me vomacious and light-headed.

My pleasure - you'll have a pervectly filthy time of it !!!

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Bottom Jim, I endorse 50latinos suggestions. There are also two bathhouses, one (probably the nicest one I've ever been to) on Broward Blvd, (which is zero-hundred N/S). Ask the Googler about it. There's another over in Oakland Park, Clubhouse II. It's a little bit on the run-down side, on a major thoroughfare (Oakland Park Blvd), and things can get downright drrrrrrty over there. He's also spot-on about Slammer - it's a "must-do" when you're here. Google it too. I think they must have a "pig-meter" somewhere near the entrance, so only guys that really need pigsex get in. There's a bar (but you have to bring your own liquor, they don't have a license), and the bartender will put your name on it, serve it to you when you come up for air. Pigsex takes place everywhere in the joint - there's a (very) darkroom, an orgy room, two areas with elevated galleries where guys stick their Cocks through gh's for waiting cocksuckers on the ground floor, quite a number of booths w/gh's, slings in public areas so every guy can watch, a smaller darkroom by the fireplace, on and on. There are 3 private, fenced parking lots, in case you rent a car. Around 11 pm, the lots tend to fill up. Slammer is my favorite fuckjoint in town. If you choose to stay at Inn Leather, and you message me, I'll send you driving directions from there to the action spots. I.L. is convenient to the airport, but not any of the pigsex neighborhoods. I recommend I.L. - It's reasonably priced, clean, and fun. Locals often buy day-passes and go down there for a day of whoring - all the rooms have slings in view of the windows. So a guy in in the sling taking loads is clearly visible to guys on the pathways around the buildings, they can look in, and if you leave the door to the room cracked open, they'll come in and join, There's also guys fucking anywhere on the premises, the pool (occasionally in it), the paths around the buildings, etc. Sadly, I wouldn't bother with Ramrod - which was the best pigbar in town for decades. Now, it's just a neighborhood bar, and all the bar-breeding action has moved up to Wilton Manors and the Eagle. You may want to "uber" it to Eagle - parking can be a bitch.

It was shortly after I went away to school. One fine Sunday I was sitting in the main lounge of the dorm, reading the Chicago Tribune, waiting for someone. The listings for movies currently showing started with full-page ads, followed by fractionals (1/2 pg, 1/4 pg, etc), and ended with the inch-rate (i.e. 1inch, 2 inch, and so on) porn ads, first in the city, and then out in the burbs. After all the "legit" ads came the ads for the porn theatres. There was an ad for the Varsity Theatre in the city, near north side, across the street from Bughouse Square on N Clark street. The caption on the Varsity ad said "XXX Action, All Male Cast". I was stunned. I didn't know there was such a thing. I'd been to a ratty old theatre in downtown Rock Island with the frat guys to see really awful (straight) porn, but had no idea there was such a thing as gay porn. I cut all my classes the next day and drove up to Chicago, found the theatre, parked and went in. It was dark, there were sleazy characters slinking around, the "porn" wouldn't even earn that name today - it was absolutely awful - but I went into the theatre, sat down and thought "now what"? Being the youngest guy (by decades) in the joint, I looked around at the handful of guys watching the movie. There was exactly one about my age, and he had already zeroed in on me. As soon as he saw me looking at him, he got up and came to sit next to me. He felt my Cock, I felt his. He pulled his out, I pulled mine out. He bent over and sucked my Cock, and I thought to myself "you asshole - you drove all the fukkin way up here to figure this shit out - now suck the damn dick". I don't recall what I thought it might taste like - I'm not sure the idea had ever entered my mind - but when I bent over to suck that kid's cock, I was shocked to discover that all it tasted like was flesh. Like any other part of skin. The vultures were closing in already, he sucked me off and I sucked him off rather quickly. I liked it, and started the process of becoming the man I was born to be.

I don't think you need to apologize to anyone for telling the truth about yourself. Whatever it is you like/dislike, it is what it is, and that's all that needs to be said.

<filthy grin> We're just a couple of pigs, you and I .... and that's pretty damn cool in my book !!!

I voted for random. Regulars are fine - I have nothing against regular fb's, but once I've fucked a guy, I already know what I need to know. There's a "regular" at Slammer, but it's not a guy I know at all. He's always in the same position in the darkroom, and I always rut in his Hole first. I've gone back to Breed his Hole many times after spending an hour or three on other Holes. He started recognizing my Cock shortly after I first fucked him - 2, maybe 3 years ago? - and since then usually says something like "there you are - gimme that Cock", but he's never turned around to look at me. Guys I don't know - only "know" via my Cock - are the most fun, as I see it. Every guy's Hole is different, and at least rutting in different Holes seems more exciting, more committed to wanton sexual lusts - one after another after another. I just love it.

My other half and I had to travel quite a bit for our business, and we always planned time to check out the local fuckjoints. I remember each of us had to promise to go to one fuckjoint the other guy really wanted to hit, even if both didn't. Later, I made it a point to get to Berlin for Folsom, attended IML for many years, but that wasn't really a "trip" - it was just downtown.

Me either. It's not that I judge them, I don't. Everyone should be able to be who they need to be, and without shallow judgements from others. That, however, doesn't require that I fuck them. All that's required of me (or anyone) is decent manners.

Well, not all that much. I never understood hurricanes either, when I lived back North. The destructive part of these storms is quite localized. While on tv they look like they'd swallow entire nations, the destructive part isn't nearly as wide as the graphics on tv indicate. More, the destructive area is even more centralized. Since the hurricane is aiming for the middle-region of the FL peninsula, there will be tremendous damage over toward Tampa (and those of you who are inclined, remember our friend Ellentonboy in your thoughts & prayers, as well as all the other guys over there), and the surrounding area, there won't be anywhere near as much damage 50, 60, 70 miles outside the "cone". I put stuff away in the yard that might blow around, turned the patio furniture upside down, stuff like that. Here on the southern East Coast, we'll get substantial rain - anywhere from 5 to 8 inches maybe - and winds of 40-ish mph, gusts up to 50-ish mph. That's nothing compared to the West Coast. I did take the car over to the garage, just in case the streets get flooded and water starts to come up the driveway. A couple days ago I stocked up on groceries, all of that. I have a "whole-house" generator (bought after Irma a few years ago - I'll never go through that no-electricity mess again), so I won't lose power. The cable tv lines might get blown down somewhere, so I could lose tv/internet, but that's about the only thing I can't control. If that happens, I have plenty of reading to get to. So, best of luck to all you guys that have Milton breathing down your necks - stay as safe as possible !!!

It seems that lately there have been plumbing problems in the Oval Office. Leaks are seeping out here and there, and one of those leaks offers reports that the President is mightily pissed off at what's going on with Yahoo. If that's true, I can only guess what will happen if Nettie invades Lebanon in a more substantial way. He's already sent troops beyond the border, but not enough to actually take the country (yet). If that happens, it would put Harris in a tight spot - but she'd have to have some kind of reply ready. Clearly though, the President is not at all pleased with the PM of Israel. I haven't heard a peep in the major media about the many military "bases" the US maintains throughout the Levant. Any attack on any one of them, in any of the nations in the area would put the President (and by extension, Harris) in a rather tight spot - and I can't imagine Iran would willfully attack an American outpost. But, it's the Middle East - surprise nightmares break out in that corner of the world regularly. Now. So there's this hurricane bearing down on the West Coast, and it will be simply terrible over there. So first and foremost, allow me to express my concern for the safety of all our brothers over on the West Coast. Returning to the theme, the prognosticators seem to think it might take a slightly southerly route once onshore, and aim directly at ..... one guess ..... Maga Blargo !!! So, maybe the Turd grabs his sharpie, a map, climbs up in that silly tower to watch all the action, and Mr. Milton blows that tower into the ocean with Once & never again President right into the drink. It would poison the fish in the area of course, but they'd recover quickly. The water might turn black for a while, but no one swims in the ocean around there anyway. Eventually there would be nothing left but the hellish memories.

Which is the crucial component. Almost anything can be melded into a loving relationship - with "outside" sex being among the easiest. Since you and your other half discussed the issue, and came to some agreement before indulging your lusts, that's respecting everything about being "in love", as opposed to living with a lie. I say "Yay for you" too - both of you.

Wouldn't that ability be lovely? But no - we're mired in our humanity - one part of which is being determined to live our lives on our personal terms, which invites the descent into discord which you so eloquently describe. It seems to be our "fatal flaw" as human beings. Perhaps one day we - as a group of enlightened human beings - will get to that state of nirvana where we'll solve our issues calmly, rationally - but that day has yet to dawn. Still, we can do what we're able to bring that day a few steps closer to reality.

Interestingly, recent reports indicate that the Mexican Government was more responsible for severely limiting border crossings*, simply because they didn't want another go-around with the former US President. Good on Obrador (and Pardo), as far as I'm concerned. *Apparently, the undocumented, the refugees with sordid histories, etc, were sent back to Mexico's southern border, and then repatriated to the country of origin.

Same place as always .... it's not as jammed as it is during "snowbird" season, but it seems that the locals are even more depraved when it's just us year-round residents. Maybe there's something to that old saying about "Southern Rot" 😇

Revel? Really now - that's a bit much. It's not we life-long Liberals ever venerated the Cheney's. Sure, we're glad there are some Conservatives that have seen the light enough to stand for avoiding the darkness, but we hardly "revel" in those folks waking the hell up.

Nope - wasn't at all. Health-related discourse is the last place sarcasm is appropriate, in my opinion. It's not that I can't use sarcasm - I often do in the political threads, and it's generally unmistakable. I think that guys who have "lived-experience" can always offer more depth in their responses to questions, and health-related issues are among the more important / serious questions we discuss on BZ. Thanks for chance to be clear ....

Thanks for your reply to the British cumdump. Advice from those who really know what they're talking about is invaluable.