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Yep, this is definitely an issue with a number of potential "answers". Thanks, Rickindc. There are simply no uniform answers, either. Some men like it au naturel, most don't. I suppose it's just a by-product (!) of needing a duel-use Hole. What I find most important though, is that the bottom made the effort. If there's a little something that managed to evade the cleansing, the guy who tried can't be blamed. All that's needed is a gentle remark that there may be a little visit to the john in order, and every time that's happened (I mean here in my home), the bottom is embarrassed, rushes off to the john, apologies, on and on. I just act blase - reassuring - and when things are taken care of, back to it. Sometimes, shit happens (just couldn't resist that one). In the darkrooms, I always do a "sniff-test" before doing anything else, and even that isn't always successful. It does, however, make clear which bottom gives a shit - literally - and which ones don't. I've told Holes lined up on the fuckbench at Slammer to hit the head and come back when they're ready - one careless guy can stink up the whole room, clearing it out qick. I get that there are sudden opportunities, and we should take them gratefully. That said, I think a bit of communication would be the best way to handle it. If the Top is concerned about the issue, he can ask if the bottom is "prepared, and likewise the bottom can ask for a raincheck. No harm in that at all. To the "Old Guard" reference by Always Open, thanks for the distinction. That institution has faded away substantially for the last number of years, but at one time it was a very real and not un-rare thing. The submissive (not "bottom") would be thoroughly instructed well before the "Leather Scene" was to take place, and in all aspects of what would and what would not take place. That's called the "negotiation", and every act would be discussed, limits agreed upon well in advance. There was no such thing as an unplanned, unnegotiated scene. Always Open is correct to point out that the cleansing ritual was both assumed and addressed by all parties during the negotiation. I would only suggest that a bottom out cruising unprepared, casually mention that he wasn't expecting such a pleasant potential, and let the Top know that ..... well ..... let's trade phone numbers if it'll be a problem.

Well said. But the question would be, why would we feel anything but joy, fulfillment, excitement when we're doing what we were born to do? I love being watched when I Breed Holes - why wouldn't I? Answer: Because we've been conditioned over many generations to abhor what we are. Culprit? Organized Religion, particularly of the Roman kind, the roughest edges of which were ground off and called Protestantism. I know it's because of the area I've chosen to life in that I can get away with it, but I like guys looking at my Cock in the stores, on the streets, wherever and whenever. Some of them may well know it a bit more intimately - and I like that too. Why wouldn't I? It's my nature to Breed as many Holes as I can, and I embrace that. So of course I love fucking for an audience. None of us should feel ashamed by public* display of our sexual Lusts. *"public", meaning places like backrooms/bars/fuckclubs/cruise areas - and not at all where little kids, whatever might be around.

1. I did, months ago. You and I are cut from the same damn cloth. 2. That is exactly what I had in a relationship for about 3 years. I met him off BBRT, he came over right away, and had just taken some loads (he told me so). As outlined in some previous thread, sexually we were a perfect match. I told him often to get online and get some Cock over to Breed his Hole. He'd been taking loads in this area for several years, and the only new guy involved was me. That man made my Cock hard just looking at him; we went to the orgies together, hosted smallish (4,5 men) groups, hit Slammer together, we did it all. And we enjoyed each other's company. Sexually, it was ideal. When I had some other commitment, I would send him out for loads, and enjoy his Spermed Hole later. You are the last thing from wrong. It's entirely correct to ask those two very simple and easily fulfilled requirements. Any Cockwhore loves to be validated, supported, encouraged in his Lusts. Your situations ended for different reasons than mine, however. What finally ended my "fantasy" was the fact that he became more and more addicted to drugs, and the resulting dishonesty, attempts at craftiness, deceit, on and on. As he sank lower into that life (which came on relatively quickly - a matter of 6,8 months) I began to realize that while I offered him complete sexual fulfillment as well as my friendship, he became more and more resentful of anything I asked. Then he lost his job, lost interest in anything other than taking loads. I had seen this happen before to friends (a couple of very good friends back in Chicago), acquaintances, and I already knew how destructive addiction to fuckdrugs is. So, I gave him the gate. While I adore cumdumps, I will not support a drug-addicted one financially. While some may think of me as a Daddy, there is no prefix spelled s-u-g-a-r available. So, yes. There can definitely be a great relationship with a cumdump, and your parameters (at least as mentioned) are entirely generous and appropriate. More, I hope, now that you've run through the three "Universal" attempts, you can expect to find the right cumdump for you. That said, you may want to add a 3rd requirement to the original 2 .... No Drugs Tolerated.

Well said. I don't think anyone can simply "turn" gay. There must be some inborn inclination (perhaps completely subsumed by O.R* or cultural pressures) there in the first place, which can (and should) be brought forth into consciousness. They say that time heals all wounds, and I think it's true that the passage of time can at least lessen them. I don't believe there's a switch somewhere in our minds that can be simply flipped to "turn on" being gay. Even when heavily inculcated with the old enemy O.R. or cultural restrictions, the truth will eventually emerge in most cases. Some, tragically, are not able to burst through the bubble of repression however, and that it truly abominable. *Organized Religion

Yup !!! And, extra points too.

HAHAHAHAHAHA .... there are more of them that do than you may think !!!

'Nuff said. Tons of men who were born gay have been tormented by the Organized Religion crap. What's more important though, is you made it through the fire - you survived that ordeal. And, the world is a better place for it. Kudos !!!

Thanks so much for taking the precautions before taking the loads shooting your way soon. Guys like me need guys like you. Congrats.

Nope. The only difference is, a darkroom is usually located in a private facility with no cops prowling around (unless, of course, they're sexual pigs too) 😁

I don't think I've ever heard of that either .... but it does imply a guy that's only interested in himself, what he thinks he wants.

^ demonstrates one of the most important signs of maturity in a fellow Breeder. Every Hole in a darkroom - ass up - Hole well fucked - accepting any Cock - any load, is, in and of itself, worthy of "connecting" with. Race, ethnicity, financial status, relationship status, cultural identity, are all totally irrelevant. The entire point of fucking in darkrooms is that we are ALL equals in a darkroom. Men, exchanging sexual Lusts, are what matters, and precious little else. I would point out that there are some men that either aren't aware or don't care about the required "prep work" before hitting the backrooms, and those are the only Holes I avoid. That said, every man has biological necessities, and preparing one's Hole is an important part of exercising our sexual Lusts. That's my only "limit" when I Breed Holes. I don't happen to like getting fucked, but I still make sure I'm available, in the off-chance that there's a really special "connection" to another man that wants it, because I know that he wants that special "connection" too. Actually, 99 out of 100 times, that process is for naught, but on the rare occasions when it proves important, I'm at least prepared for something "special" to take place. It took me years and years to understand the connection that's available through the concept of reciprocity: it's not all about what I want, it's all about sharing. While every raw Hole taking loads is special, that "special connection" doesn't always take place, but the celebration of mutual Lusts being fulfilled, over and over and over again, is. My own particular preference is for plenty of hairy men - HoleHair - probably because I possess very little. I suppose it's the "opposites attract" thing, but I've loved fucking hairless Holes, skinny ones, sometimes fat ones, regardless of other extraneous factors. In a different thread, I described fucking a neighbor in a bar that I don't like at all, and it was a great fuck. In the darkrooms, Hole needing Cock is Hole needing Cock, and rutting in each one is what sating the BreedLust is all about. And that's more than enough.

Obviously - and I would add one more disappointment: Poorly, narrowly educated. More, if Dense Pence fathered a son who turned out to be gay, I think the kid would have been disowned and (if still a minor), put up for adoption. So did I, but I started smelling the weasel in the woodwork a bit earlier. The notion of celebrating such magical nonsense as cannibalism, the antiquated (by millennia) of "virgin birth", the notion that an unbaptized baby that dies automatically goes to some artifice called hell, all the bs purposefully designed to keep an uneducated populace under the thumb of those enriching themselves at the expense of others just pissed my ass off royally. And, I am proud to say I told off a nasty old busybody who sharpened her filthy tongue in a pencil sharpener every morning in very blunt language, and within the hearing of many at church. Thank whatever that you made it out, and realized your truth, and are following who you were born to be.

I won't go into it yet again, but ... your sense of altruism is simply magnificent. The homeless deserve all the help they can get, regardless of whether - in the more fortunate folks estimation - they "deserve" their circumstances or not. When we celebrate the vast wealth that allows some folks to own their own rocket ships, own the largest "yacht" on earth, and then turn our backs on the far less fortunate, there's something wrong with our values. Here in Ft.L., there are tons of homeless people at major intersections, begging for spare change. Who would do that unless they were desperate to just survive another night? I have yet to attain even shouting distance of this respondent's level of caring for everyone, regardless of circumstances. but that doesn't mean I don't do what I can whenever I can. All of us need to do that.

Welllllll ... I've never been to Calgary, so I can't offer anything germane about the opportunities there. However, if and when you're ready to really jump into the pile of rutting men, I can offer that Ft. Lauderdale will accommodate your depravities, no matter how deeply and deliciously they develop !!! Did I mention how much I enjoy alliteration .... I don't know exactly where your "let's see how much more fucked up and slutty you can get" button is located, but there are more then enough men around here that can and will surely find it. Cheers !!!

Well said. It takes a while for a kid to mature into a hot fuck. There are things like technique to learn, and how to get a Hole to sweat for Sperm. We're born gay, but we're not born with the experience that only years of Breeding Hole brings. It takes some time, and a lot of action to develop really good talents. Yeah, the kids can be attractive - maybe remind us of ourselves in our youth, but I'll take experienced guys every time.

Well .... here in Florida, this pie-faced fool of a Governor has begun a campaign to bar the teaching of any gay-related subject matter in public schools. The slogan is "Don't Say Gay", as if merely verbalizing the word can turn kids gay. I'm sorry to know the bars w/those thrilling darkrooms are fading away, but at least you don't have the person running your Province mounting campaigns to marginalize boys & girls born gay !!!

Thanks for the response. I'm at a bit of a disadvantage here, in that I don't know what a "Fraternity X bro vibe" is. As to the self-confidence thing, I will admit that - for better or worse - I cannot recall having been accused of lacking that particular quality. One of the points I was trying to make is, in a situation when Tops are invited to use a cumdump, there are no strangers ... there will only be men that are interested in fucking a hot, wet Hole. Thus, those in attendance are anything but strangers. We may not have ever met before, but we're all of a kind, and there for the purpose of giving the cumdump what he needs, and having fun while doing it with other Cocks. A hotel room is probably not the most productive venue for offering that service, but some guys like that setting, so that's fine too. It would be more productive to offer the service in some overtly sexual location, like a bathhouse, their own place, a friend's place, where interaction with the public can be avoided altogether. Never having lived in a rural area, I can understand how taking a room at some h/motel could be more efficient, but the above response from the hotel employee (thanks, cumtaker77) should be reassuring. I also understand that a lot of guys simply don't live near enough to fuckjoints like guys in major metro areas. What I don't understand however, is once the event takes place, the men involved feel somehow detached from each other. What does make sense (to me, anyway) is either joining in the group-scene, or helping to create it. That's what a goup-breeding should be about ... men doing what they need to do, together. Thanks again for your reply.

<<<sigh>>> tossed in the "reaction" clink ... again .....

Go ahead - go on and on .... Dullness = no interest Mediocrity = perhaps momentary interest, mostly in the fuckjoints where intellect counts for very little Intelligence = interest, focus, pleasure .... and he's paying attention too ... he's shameless, but so is the guy he's attached to ...

For instance, the mental imagery of my Cock actually imbedded in the bottom's brain .... quite literally, the proverbial "mind-fuck". It seldom happens in a group scene, but usually later - individually - with a guy I fucked in a group scene. It's like metaphorically consuming the bottom's mind, heart, soul - and offering mine to him. It's so gratifying to read replies from guys that understand ... 😉

You don't understand the dynamics of group breeding very well, rock-cock-jock. It's hardly "cheerleading" - it's helping create the sense of comradery among the Tops, which leads only to a hotter, better, more licentious scene for all the men involved, whether Top or bottom. The poster asked directly about communications regarding "walking into anonymous pump & dump rooms", and he received some recommendations. A group Breeding scene is not at all "tailor made" for one Top, it's created for multiple Tops and/or bottoms, each giving the others what they need, and taking from others what they need. It's much more a celebration of who and what we are, co-mingling our Lusts, enabling mutual satisfaction for every guy. Nothing self-centered about it; the whole thing is "other-centered".

^ and self-centered ... If there's one thing I dislike about a bottom, it's trying to be a "pushy" bottom. Especially in the darkrooms/backrooms/fuckjoints.

Very interesting issues raised here - I always learn something new, or more about something I already somewhat knew. Thanks, rock-cock-jock & ErosWired.

There is very little light in my favorite darkroom - the only light-source are two fairly narrow entrances on each end of the darkroom, lighted by what little light emanates from a fairly dark hallway leading to the darkroom. Imagine a fairly small, but long and narrow room, with a fuckbench built between the doors. There's room for 5 or 6 Holes to line up on the fuckbench at a time, with enough room for others to be almost completely hidden in other corners of the darkroom. You'd have to literally feel your way through from one end to the other, and explore the non-benched side in Breed-Braille. I like to start at one doorway, and rut in each Hole until I get to the other doorway - then explore the really dark part of the room, just for the fun of it. One has to move slowly, since there are usually guys kneeling, sucking Cocks, or torso's bent over taking loads in the darkness. Given that I very much enjoy eating pre-loaded Holes, I generally give them a "taste-test" before deciding. When I really do need to Breed though, I usually go back to whichever Hole I liked best and pump it up that one. Then, I cruise around the rest of the joint - there are a number of area for specific sexual deviancy - and often I hit the darkroom again to repeat my pattern - and occasionally there's something special about one of the bottoms to "connect" us besides the physical one. Those occurances are really special. For me, these cumdumps are exemplary men - offering up their Holes to any and every Cock/load because it's what they are driven to do - must do. They bring nothing but dedication to their Lusts to the darkroom, and - as far as I'm concerned - nothing but honor and admiration to themselves. In the darkrooms particularly ........... It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm

^ is well explained. I would add one more, if you can do it: from the above, "The worst thing Tops can do is stand apart at a distance ...." This is very true. Don't hang around the periphery, wade right in. Hesitancy will be interpreted negatively. Walk up to another Top already Breeding a Hole, stand close to him and murmur encouraging "Breedchat" like "yeah, great Cock, bud" or "yeah, fuck that Hole harder" or "I'm gonna use your load for lube", etc etc etc. Be bold, but not pushy. Encourage the guys that are fucking at the moment, and you'll get a hotter Hole hungry for more Seed when it's your turn, and a smile from the Cocks preceding yours. And when it is your turn, if other Cocks do the same for you, offer them a go ... every guy will have more fun. It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm