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Hey, WelshBBCigarFuck ... Wales isn't that far from Berlin ... "Folsom in Berlin" is off the charts - I think it's somewhat associated with "Ostern-in-Berlin" (a larger, general audience type event to boost tourism) - since it takes place around Easter, but I'm not sure about that. However, Schonberg turns into one big neighborhood of Leathermen - literally thousands - and it'll blow your mind - at least it did mine a number of times !!! I know it was held last year - hope it will this year too. Good luck, bud !!!

If men fucking men were a culturally accepted practice, and there were classes in school on how to do it properly, there would be a LOT more Tops conscious of what bottoms have to do. In these classes, the Tops would have to experience the same thing for - oh - say a week. THAT would help every guy appreciate what every other guy needs to do, and rather quickly.

When you're walking through the Leather Mart, there should be tables set up here and there, in somewhat out-of-the-way areas with one-sheets, palm cards, etc notifying everyone of the different parties being held by attendees. You don't have to sign up or anything like that - just show up and jump in. Try to get to visit the Leather Archives up in Rogers Park. The busses used to stop there - I don't know if they still do though. It may sound a bit mundane, but for Leathermen, it's an amazing connection to our history. I hope every single one of you has a wonderful time, and gets back home completely wrung out, and with a big, fat smile on your collective mugs !!! At IML, it's all about the LeatherLife, and that includes Cock/Hole/Sperm and soooo much more.

Well, I don't think some Tops take the time to appreciate what bottoms like you go through, just so you're available to confidently take Cocks. Maybe that's why you're "slender", in that the food you eat gets "excused" before your body can fully digest it !!! That said, I'd much rather Breed with a slender guy than an overeater. On a slim guy, there's just more solid stuff lto grab onto and ride !!!

Really cool how varied our tastes develop, huh? Plenty of what we love most for every guy to enjoy !!! So when's the BZ Convention scheduled for ???

It's not uncommon for a Top who's blessed with Impressive Equipment to never have to learn his craft. ALL Tops need to learn to use their Cocks to the bottom's pleasure as well as their own, since that delivers the best experience for both guys. It seems that when a "large" Top hauls it out, the bottoms flock to the Big Meat, which allows the Top to never get around to learning how to use what he has. Big Cocks are like musical instruments - the more you practice, noting things you could do better - and practicing to make the performance better - the more the Top honors and celebrates what nature gave him. It's not just about having a big Cock - it's all about learning to use it to both the Top's and bottom's best Breeding experience.

Agreed. For me, nothing is hotter than a hairy Hole, full of Sperm off previous Cocks, and pointed at my tongue. A shaved Hole is definitely fuckable, but - it could be so much better if whatever hair that grows there is still awaiting use. And when the hair fans up and out over the small of the back .... GRRRRRRRRRRR !!!

Yep, this is definitely an issue with a number of potential "answers". Thanks, Rickindc. There are simply no uniform answers, either. Some men like it au naturel, most don't. I suppose it's just a by-product (!) of needing a duel-use Hole. What I find most important though, is that the bottom made the effort. If there's a little something that managed to evade the cleansing, the guy who tried can't be blamed. All that's needed is a gentle remark that there may be a little visit to the john in order, and every time that's happened (I mean here in my home), the bottom is embarrassed, rushes off to the john, apologies, on and on. I just act blase - reassuring - and when things are taken care of, back to it. Sometimes, shit happens (just couldn't resist that one). In the darkrooms, I always do a "sniff-test" before doing anything else, and even that isn't always successful. It does, however, make clear which bottom gives a shit - literally - and which ones don't. I've told Holes lined up on the fuckbench at Slammer to hit the head and come back when they're ready - one careless guy can stink up the whole room, clearing it out qick. I get that there are sudden opportunities, and we should take them gratefully. That said, I think a bit of communication would be the best way to handle it. If the Top is concerned about the issue, he can ask if the bottom is "prepared, and likewise the bottom can ask for a raincheck. No harm in that at all. To the "Old Guard" reference by Always Open, thanks for the distinction. That institution has faded away substantially for the last number of years, but at one time it was a very real and not un-rare thing. The submissive (not "bottom") would be thoroughly instructed well before the "Leather Scene" was to take place, and in all aspects of what would and what would not take place. That's called the "negotiation", and every act would be discussed, limits agreed upon well in advance. There was no such thing as an unplanned, unnegotiated scene. Always Open is correct to point out that the cleansing ritual was both assumed and addressed by all parties during the negotiation. I would only suggest that a bottom out cruising unprepared, casually mention that he wasn't expecting such a pleasant potential, and let the Top know that ..... well ..... let's trade phone numbers if it'll be a problem.

Well said. But the question would be, why would we feel anything but joy, fulfillment, excitement when we're doing what we were born to do? I love being watched when I Breed Holes - why wouldn't I? Answer: Because we've been conditioned over many generations to abhor what we are. Culprit? Organized Religion, particularly of the Roman kind, the roughest edges of which were ground off and called Protestantism. I know it's because of the area I've chosen to life in that I can get away with it, but I like guys looking at my Cock in the stores, on the streets, wherever and whenever. Some of them may well know it a bit more intimately - and I like that too. Why wouldn't I? It's my nature to Breed as many Holes as I can, and I embrace that. So of course I love fucking for an audience. None of us should feel ashamed by public* display of our sexual Lusts. *"public", meaning places like backrooms/bars/fuckclubs/cruise areas - and not at all where little kids, whatever might be around.

1. I did, months ago. You and I are cut from the same damn cloth. 2. That is exactly what I had in a relationship for about 3 years. I met him off BBRT, he came over right away, and had just taken some loads (he told me so). As outlined in some previous thread, sexually we were a perfect match. I told him often to get online and get some Cock over to Breed his Hole. He'd been taking loads in this area for several years, and the only new guy involved was me. That man made my Cock hard just looking at him; we went to the orgies together, hosted smallish (4,5 men) groups, hit Slammer together, we did it all. And we enjoyed each other's company. Sexually, it was ideal. When I had some other commitment, I would send him out for loads, and enjoy his Spermed Hole later. You are the last thing from wrong. It's entirely correct to ask those two very simple and easily fulfilled requirements. Any Cockwhore loves to be validated, supported, encouraged in his Lusts. Your situations ended for different reasons than mine, however. What finally ended my "fantasy" was the fact that he became more and more addicted to drugs, and the resulting dishonesty, attempts at craftiness, deceit, on and on. As he sank lower into that life (which came on relatively quickly - a matter of 6,8 months) I began to realize that while I offered him complete sexual fulfillment as well as my friendship, he became more and more resentful of anything I asked. Then he lost his job, lost interest in anything other than taking loads. I had seen this happen before to friends (a couple of very good friends back in Chicago), acquaintances, and I already knew how destructive addiction to fuckdrugs is. So, I gave him the gate. While I adore cumdumps, I will not support a drug-addicted one financially. While some may think of me as a Daddy, there is no prefix spelled s-u-g-a-r available. So, yes. There can definitely be a great relationship with a cumdump, and your parameters (at least as mentioned) are entirely generous and appropriate. More, I hope, now that you've run through the three "Universal" attempts, you can expect to find the right cumdump for you. That said, you may want to add a 3rd requirement to the original 2 .... No Drugs Tolerated.

Well said. I don't think anyone can simply "turn" gay. There must be some inborn inclination (perhaps completely subsumed by O.R* or cultural pressures) there in the first place, which can (and should) be brought forth into consciousness. They say that time heals all wounds, and I think it's true that the passage of time can at least lessen them. I don't believe there's a switch somewhere in our minds that can be simply flipped to "turn on" being gay. Even when heavily inculcated with the old enemy O.R. or cultural restrictions, the truth will eventually emerge in most cases. Some, tragically, are not able to burst through the bubble of repression however, and that it truly abominable. *Organized Religion

Yup !!! And, extra points too.

HAHAHAHAHAHA .... there are more of them that do than you may think !!!

'Nuff said. Tons of men who were born gay have been tormented by the Organized Religion crap. What's more important though, is you made it through the fire - you survived that ordeal. And, the world is a better place for it. Kudos !!!

Thanks so much for taking the precautions before taking the loads shooting your way soon. Guys like me need guys like you. Congrats.

Nope. The only difference is, a darkroom is usually located in a private facility with no cops prowling around (unless, of course, they're sexual pigs too) 😁

I don't think I've ever heard of that either .... but it does imply a guy that's only interested in himself, what he thinks he wants.

^ demonstrates one of the most important signs of maturity in a fellow Breeder. Every Hole in a darkroom - ass up - Hole well fucked - accepting any Cock - any load, is, in and of itself, worthy of "connecting" with. Race, ethnicity, financial status, relationship status, cultural identity, are all totally irrelevant. The entire point of fucking in darkrooms is that we are ALL equals in a darkroom. Men, exchanging sexual Lusts, are what matters, and precious little else. I would point out that there are some men that either aren't aware or don't care about the required "prep work" before hitting the backrooms, and those are the only Holes I avoid. That said, every man has biological necessities, and preparing one's Hole is an important part of exercising our sexual Lusts. That's my only "limit" when I Breed Holes. I don't happen to like getting fucked, but I still make sure I'm available, in the off-chance that there's a really special "connection" to another man that wants it, because I know that he wants that special "connection" too. Actually, 99 out of 100 times, that process is for naught, but on the rare occasions when it proves important, I'm at least prepared for something "special" to take place. It took me years and years to understand the connection that's available through the concept of reciprocity: it's not all about what I want, it's all about sharing. While every raw Hole taking loads is special, that "special connection" doesn't always take place, but the celebration of mutual Lusts being fulfilled, over and over and over again, is. My own particular preference is for plenty of hairy men - HoleHair - probably because I possess very little. I suppose it's the "opposites attract" thing, but I've loved fucking hairless Holes, skinny ones, sometimes fat ones, regardless of other extraneous factors. In a different thread, I described fucking a neighbor in a bar that I don't like at all, and it was a great fuck. In the darkrooms, Hole needing Cock is Hole needing Cock, and rutting in each one is what sating the BreedLust is all about. And that's more than enough.

Obviously - and I would add one more disappointment: Poorly, narrowly educated. More, if Dense Pence fathered a son who turned out to be gay, I think the kid would have been disowned and (if still a minor), put up for adoption. So did I, but I started smelling the weasel in the woodwork a bit earlier. The notion of celebrating such magical nonsense as cannibalism, the antiquated (by millennia) of "virgin birth", the notion that an unbaptized baby that dies automatically goes to some artifice called hell, all the bs purposefully designed to keep an uneducated populace under the thumb of those enriching themselves at the expense of others just pissed my ass off royally. And, I am proud to say I told off a nasty old busybody who sharpened her filthy tongue in a pencil sharpener every morning in very blunt language, and within the hearing of many at church. Thank whatever that you made it out, and realized your truth, and are following who you were born to be.

I won't go into it yet again, but ... your sense of altruism is simply magnificent. The homeless deserve all the help they can get, regardless of whether - in the more fortunate folks estimation - they "deserve" their circumstances or not. When we celebrate the vast wealth that allows some folks to own their own rocket ships, own the largest "yacht" on earth, and then turn our backs on the far less fortunate, there's something wrong with our values. Here in Ft.L., there are tons of homeless people at major intersections, begging for spare change. Who would do that unless they were desperate to just survive another night? I have yet to attain even shouting distance of this respondent's level of caring for everyone, regardless of circumstances. but that doesn't mean I don't do what I can whenever I can. All of us need to do that.

Welllllll ... I've never been to Calgary, so I can't offer anything germane about the opportunities there. However, if and when you're ready to really jump into the pile of rutting men, I can offer that Ft. Lauderdale will accommodate your depravities, no matter how deeply and deliciously they develop !!! Did I mention how much I enjoy alliteration .... I don't know exactly where your "let's see how much more fucked up and slutty you can get" button is located, but there are more then enough men around here that can and will surely find it. Cheers !!!

Well said. It takes a while for a kid to mature into a hot fuck. There are things like technique to learn, and how to get a Hole to sweat for Sperm. We're born gay, but we're not born with the experience that only years of Breeding Hole brings. It takes some time, and a lot of action to develop really good talents. Yeah, the kids can be attractive - maybe remind us of ourselves in our youth, but I'll take experienced guys every time.

Well .... here in Florida, this pie-faced fool of a Governor has begun a campaign to bar the teaching of any gay-related subject matter in public schools. The slogan is "Don't Say Gay", as if merely verbalizing the word can turn kids gay. I'm sorry to know the bars w/those thrilling darkrooms are fading away, but at least you don't have the person running your Province mounting campaigns to marginalize boys & girls born gay !!!

Thanks for the response. I'm at a bit of a disadvantage here, in that I don't know what a "Fraternity X bro vibe" is. As to the self-confidence thing, I will admit that - for better or worse - I cannot recall having been accused of lacking that particular quality. One of the points I was trying to make is, in a situation when Tops are invited to use a cumdump, there are no strangers ... there will only be men that are interested in fucking a hot, wet Hole. Thus, those in attendance are anything but strangers. We may not have ever met before, but we're all of a kind, and there for the purpose of giving the cumdump what he needs, and having fun while doing it with other Cocks. A hotel room is probably not the most productive venue for offering that service, but some guys like that setting, so that's fine too. It would be more productive to offer the service in some overtly sexual location, like a bathhouse, their own place, a friend's place, where interaction with the public can be avoided altogether. Never having lived in a rural area, I can understand how taking a room at some h/motel could be more efficient, but the above response from the hotel employee (thanks, cumtaker77) should be reassuring. I also understand that a lot of guys simply don't live near enough to fuckjoints like guys in major metro areas. What I don't understand however, is once the event takes place, the men involved feel somehow detached from each other. What does make sense (to me, anyway) is either joining in the group-scene, or helping to create it. That's what a goup-breeding should be about ... men doing what they need to do, together. Thanks again for your reply.

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