politics Conservatism

[Close2MyBro]

On 8/8/2019 at 11:29 PM, BlackDude said:

As I black persons, I also see a third angle. It that a lot of gay men don’t give a damn about the progress of others as long as they get theirs. I’ve seen many instances of guys marching in pride parades, only to go back to the bars later on loving to their “White only” profile. Or they are all in in civil rights....except when it involves the freedoms of others, they become conservative. Just my opinion. 

I think it's called hypocrisy. There's a lot of that going on lately.

[Pozlover1]

25 minutes ago, Close2MyBro said:

I think it's called hypocrisy. There's a lot of that going on lately.

To me it is just terminology. Conservative can mean Jerry Falwell and Anita Bryant, but it can also mean limiting Government and removing chickenshit  laws that are selectively enforced. Liberals can be very pro Government and want it to control every aspect of your life “for your own good since you are not as educated as we are” but still be so corrupt they let Monsanto poison our food and try to force poor people out of their cars by jacking up license fees and mandating “safety inspection stickers”. 

Covering up actual numeric crime statistics and forcing hiring quotas are just as bad as deporting illegal aliens from a chicken plant while failing miserably to stop the ones selling hard drugs. Reality is usually obvious even though you might wish it otherwise, and the free market is largely self regulating if left alone. 

LBGT anti-bullying  tolerance programs in schools have morphed into drag queen story time. How about “I have a job” story time for the housing projects? 

[Guest]

On 8/18/2017 at 10:02 PM, jogupo said:

It depends on what type of conservative you consider yourself to be. Someone who claims to be a social conservative would have a major conflict but I consider myself a "Paul Ryan" Republican primarily concerned with economic issues. While I support Republicans for state offices and congress I will not support Donald Trump because I don't feel he is qualified for the presidency. I did vote for Romney though.

i find it interesting cause i here so much people dont feel as tho he is qualified to be president what does he lack n o one says what he lacks. i feel different i look at his policy and weigh good vrs bad and what he has done. just because someone acts presidential doesnt mean they make a great one.

[Guest]

On 6/22/2019 at 2:16 PM, Ostrogoth said:

Only because as a gay person I belong to a minority it does not mean by far that I must automatically be in favor of leftist ideology. I came to see life for what it truly is rather than what philanthropists wished it would be. This world mostly and therefore sadly responds only to the closed fist, not the open hand. 

i agree but would ad i am tired of people telling me who to vote for even tho they dont know why they are voting that way i find them to be blind followers that would walk of a bridge or jump from a plane cause there friend told them to

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Pozlover1 said:

To me it is just terminology. Conservative can mean Jerry Falwell and Anita Bryant, but it can also mean limiting Government and removing chickenshit  laws that are selectively enforced. Liberals can be very pro Government and want it to control every aspect of your life “for your own good since you are not as educated as we are” but still be so corrupt they let Monsanto poison our food and try to force poor people out of their cars by jacking up license fees and mandating “safety inspection stickers”. 

Covering up actual numeric crime statistics and forcing hiring quotas are just as bad as deporting illegal aliens from a chicken plant while failing miserably to stop the ones selling hard drugs. Reality is usually obvious even though you might wish it otherwise, and the free market is largely self regulating if left alone. 

LBGT anti-bullying  tolerance programs in schools have morphed into drag queen story time. How about “I have a job” story time for the housing projects? 

also would ad stop supporting corrupt government in other countries i have friends and family in so america and they would all tell you the more money we give in aid to them the more corupt there leaders get and just like here they never leave government cause they brain wash the people with crumbs. lets wake up real change and a better country starts with term limits.

[dirtyarizona]

I was cruising around at another website today & I came across a profile from a guy whose profile said he was a 50-year-old Native American.  In his profile he had the line, "Some of the most judgmental people you will meet are gay."  I agree with him, & I would expand that even further to include democrats, liberals, progressives, & socialists.  Most people on "The Left" are absolutely intolerant of people who do not share 100% of their views 100% of the time on whatever the topic might be, whether it's "equal rights," or abortion, or war, or peace, or the role of government in people's lives, or gay "marriage," or any other topic.  

[horny4holes]

On 8/12/2019 at 5:42 AM, dirtyarizona said:

I was cruising around at another website today & I came across a profile from a guy whose profile said he was a 50-year-old Native American.  In his profile he had the line, "Some of the most judgmental people you will meet are gay."  I agree with him, & I would expand that even further to include democrats, liberals, progressives, & socialists.  Most people on "The Left" are absolutely intolerant of people who do not share 100% of their views 100% of the time on whatever the topic might be, whether it's "equal rights," or abortion, or war, or peace, or the role of government in people's lives, or gay "marriage," or any other topic.  

And what about people on "The Right"? Most of which see gay and trans people as inferior beings because of who they are, and who the more extreme see anyone who isn't white as inferior. I would hardly call that tolerant.

[Guest gwmcatcher]

https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/8/16/20806990/trump-religion-lgbtq-discrimination-rule

’nuff said

[Pozlover1]

You stick the “equal sign” on your car, follow their ratings system and only shop at LBGT accepting businesses.

Then you want to help a company that hates us make money by working there. 

[Guest]

20 hours ago, ffbareff said:

https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/8/16/20806990/trump-religion-lgbtq-discrimination-rule

’nuff said

not true enough not said and let me tell you i dont like trump  but  this never happen it was a The proposed rule   all presidents propose stuff mostly put out by there people not everything becomes anything.

[Guest]

19 hours ago, Pozlover1 said:

You stick the “equal sign” on your car, follow their ratings system and only shop at LBGT accepting businesses.

Then you want to help a company that hates us make money by working there. 

lol you think our small group makes a diff to a large company like hobby lobby  not no effect and most of us dont care  so kinda ruins that thought

[Pozlover1]

I repeat, why would you want to work there?

I am old, and remember when gay was crazy. After 1973 we still could only get very high professional jobs if we stayed in the closet, or the very lowest jobs. 

We slowly built credibility by being good workers, showing up every day on time and not stealing. Some brave companies added accepting us to their official practices. On paper. They were often boycotted by religious groups.  After it was safe, some useless local governments passed laws to try and take the credit for what we ourselves achieved. In Kentucky, that meant Lexington and Louisville became even more of a magnet for Gay people who were lucky or clever enough to survive  growing up out in the State. 

This is similar to what Asians went through after the railroads were built and they were no longer needed. Today they are sought after by companies. 

Blacks went the other route, rioting until companies were forced to hire a certain percentage who often could not be fired no matter what they did. You know this is true. Today that has mostly leveled out to allow them equal opportunities to be judged on merit alone, and phoney lawsuits are usually thrown out if a company has a reasonably diverse work force.

I believe Mike Pence opposed a Fairness Ordinance more as a pro-business stance than an anti-gay position. Of course the liberal media that is always in favor of Government controlling everyone chose one or two examples to try and say this backfired on him and ruined Indiana’s economy. 

He’s still there, and except for Gary Indiana their economy is pretty good. And Gays have no problems finding work in most cities of any size. 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Pozlover1

[Pozlover1]

33 minutes ago, bbboffer said:

lol you think our small group makes a diff to a large company like hobby lobby  not no effect and most of us dont care  so kinda ruins that thought

Hobby Lobby went tits up. I don’t know how much was their religious stance and how much was filling 75% of their stores with all that crap Chinese decór and only 25% of actual hobby tools and craft supplies. I now see that crap that was dumped being sold at Krogers and Rural King because they got it for basically nothing. 

I can get the tools on Amazon, but there is no easy source for sheets of plastic, square brass tubing, balsa wood or fake fur.  

[lovetobefucked]

It is interesting that JFK would be considered a conservative by today's communist and socialist Democrats lol

[gwmxyz]

Being gay/bi (etc) is about who you fuck. 

Being conservative (etc) is about who you think will run the country best.

They seem obviously different questions to me.

The facts (almost infinite permutations/combinations) seem to confirm it too. Isn’t the real problem our desperate desire to categorise people?

I’ve mentioned “cottaging fascist” before (a nickname for a guy at law school and, I think, self explanatory). It’s an unusual combination, sure, but that’s all. Consistent too if the freedom he believed in was the freedom to take loads in the early hours on Hampstead Heath. Another example might be Oscar Wilde - whose views on the morality of what he was accused of (as opposed to whether he did it) seem closer to those who prosecuted him than those who defend him today.