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This reminded me about something I read in the FAQ in the safestsex.org site (http://safestsex.org/FAQnon-en.php) There's a discussion about the whole "lying" issue, which I found right on. How can self-reported information be trusted? Don’t people lie? Most people don't lie if the facts are clear. Regarding the disclosure of STIs the assumption is that people will always lie. In part some people may lie because of the feelings of shame regarding STDs or to hide their sexual lifestyle. But we cannot forget that there are also people who don't lie and who genuinely want to enjoy sexual experiences knowing that the risk of STI is as low as possible. This is a typical dialogue between two people negotiating sexual contact at a bathhouse: “Are you clean?”, “I tested a couple of months ago, how about you?” Isn’t it unreasonable to expect the truth from such ambiguous dialogue? To expect truth one should first demand clear facts. The STD test results provided by SafestSex.org members may be self-reported, but the data is clear and complete, including a list of tests with exact dates. Additionally, members can add more information to their STD Profile such as name, address of clinic, copy of certificate of HIV test, and frequency of testing. All this combined will increase the credibility of each STD profile. Collecting information with clear and unambiguous facts, the way SafestSex.org does, is the first step towards getting at the truth. SafestSex.org provides the online tool to facilitate the exchange of information that potential sexual partners need to make an informed decision about their level of STI/STD risks. An STD Profile reflects a higher level of commitment with the truth than an oral exchange which will be incomplete and motivated by passion more than reason. I like the concept they promote, test for ALL STI and share results. It's exactly what so many horny guys need when choosing a fuck-buddy. My safestsex.org membership works for me as a "serosorting" tool but for all STI. If someone cannot take 10 minutes of his life to register as a member and enter his last test results so I can see them on my screen when he allows me to, it means that that guy is not committed to avoiding STIs.

It's inaccurate to call bare sex unsafe because if all involved are tested and not contagious then there is nothing unsafe about bareback sex. "Get tested" is the philosophy of SafestSex.org which I strongly recommend. Get tested and be able to show you have been tested. Some like to push PrEP, but I find safestsex.org by far the best alternative. The problem is that the site is new and not many know about it. I joined 3 months ago and I'm starting to find other members.

Reading some of the posts in this site I sometimes start believing that everyone lies about their status and that if you bareback, you will eventually poz. I think both are wrong assumptions. Regarding lying: SafestSex.org claims that it's not that people lie about their status but that the dialogue about STI is always ambiguous. SafestSex.org claims that just having clear facts in your STI Screening Profile will already reduce the risk. A typical dialogue: "Are you clean?" , “I’m clean, tested couple of months ago.” Instead of an ambiguous dialogue SafestSex.org members can exchange their STI test information online and break the ambiguity, list of tests, exact dates, validation information, etc. When someone has to complete an online form in the process of becoming a member the commitment to truth is higher than just a causal "I'm clean." type dialogue. It's hard to argue against this claim. Will all barebackers eventually poz? Not if you have sex with others who are not infected and test regularly. Uber connects drivers with passengers so I can't see why can't an application like SafestSex.org can't connect horny guys and reduce the risk? Where is this sense of gloom and doom coming from? The belief that there is no solution possible to avoid STI other than pharmaceutical solutions (PrEP) which are not really sustainable. This negativity towards STI prevention solutions is probably the result of a huge frustration we all experience that sexual activities have their limits, if health is an issue. It would be great there were no STI at all, and we call all do whatever we want with bodies and fluids, but we can't, if health is an issue. We need a more positive attitude that can replace this gloom and doom https://www.youtube.com/embed/ayeaVIOhfes

I'm visiting Santiago in Chile, staying in a downtown apartment equipped with one of those portable slings in the dining room area (See attached images). "CULO A PELO" in the sign means "Raw Hole" and the letters glow in the dark. That was the setup in the apartment. Lately I've been more than ever concerned about the risk of infection in most of the stuff we like doing with guys, from oral to raw breeding. I've managed to avoid infections, almost miraculously, after so much bareback sex. So what do I do to satisfy my fetishes without putting myself in so much risk? I've managed to organize a small group of guys who are also concerned of STI who are now all members of safestsex.org. At least the basic info on tests is clear. We've had 2 sessions, one with 4 guys, and another myself with one more. We used the sling and it was all bareback. all but one were married guys and very worried of infections. I've also organized regular bareback sessions on the sling where guys don't care and status is not an issue. Obviously these have been easier to arrange and the result has been incredible. I don't get involved in anything that may put me at risk, even sucking and getting sucked. I decided to just make sure the scene would be super hot and that I would please myself from watching all of this. Last night it was simply phenomenal. Because I'm fluent in Spanish it's been easy to talk to guys. I met a 36 yr old jock-type, very masculine, but eager to be a cumdump, a long time fantasy of his, never done it before. I first took pictures of him on the sling, with the sign behind him (See 3rd pic) and used them to get tops willing to come over to the apartment and breed his hole. By the end of the night the bottom cumdump had taken 6 loads, 4 of them right at the end one after the other. It was amazing and while all of this was happening it brought back memories and in a way I wish I was the bottom on the sling. All guys were between 25 and 45 and myself the only mature and over 60. It would have been unrealistic to pretend I could replicate a hot 36 yr-old cumdump who everyone wanted to fuck and breed. And then also I know from experience that no matter how many experiences one has, we all want more. I spoke this morning with the cumdump and he told me he jerked off twice already thinking about last night and he wants more. Is it worth putting oneself at such risk just to satisfy the urge to take loads? I've done it myself so I understand. Before leaving last night the bottom cumdump told me how now he's got to wait for the tests in 3 more months. And from experience I know how tormenting can be to have to wait to know the outcome. This guy does not want to poz, he told me, but he can't wait and postpone the thrill. We'll see in 3 more months what happens because HIV status was never discussed. Personally, although I must admit I was envious of the bottom, today I feel relieved that I never placed myself at any risk and that if I had, I would still need to continue exposing myself to the risk. Anyone interested in a gang-bang everything goes? Come to Santiago and rent this apartment with sling included.

I found this a great video: http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/Daddy-fucking-me-from-behind-29500331 From lekesppas, "Daddy fucking me from behind" What I liked about this video is that not only the top deep breeds the bottom's hole, but also at the end the bottom shoots a huge load. Great video!

I appreciate the honesty in this post instead of the constant glorification of infections you read in so many posts around here. I get some of the fetish aspects of this glorification of STIs but the rationality that defines us as human has to always prevail, at least in my reality. To me it makes no sense to try to harm your body in an activity (sex) where your body is the focus of the pleasure of sex. I've always feared HIV infection because of the consequences of the infection itself (fuck flue) or side effects of the drugs, because both would prevent me from enjoying sex. I think that the best solution is the one offered by the site safestsex.org because it contains all the ingredients for the perfect solution: if everyone is tested and only have sex with similar people, the risk is the same as the one in monogamy. Not easy to achieve, but possible. I personally would have enjoyed being in a bathhouse or sex club where I knew everyone was tested and non-contagious with all STIs. Just bareback with anyone you please without worrying about anything. That would be my ideal situation because for me sex is what turns me on, not disease.

Even at the baths, while taking loads not in a gang-bang, I have trouble keeping track of how many loads I've taken. I find it hard to distinguish from guys who like to fuck but not cum from the guys who cum very quietly and then leave. Once I have a load in my hole I sometimes can't be sure the guy shot his load. I feel the first load because of the added lube.

I think that in some open relationships STDs can still be problem, especially HIV.

I'm in a loving relationship, we both enjoy each others company, but sex is not something one man can fulfill. We recognize the need for an open relationship but we were both worried about STIs. We both joined safestsex.org and the agreement we have is to only have have sexual contact with other safestsex.org members. So far it's working out quite well and eventually we want to become validated members. A couple of days ago I hooked-up with a guy, we met at a park, he fucked me, bred my hole and I was not worried that he may be infected. I had seen his test results, dates and the location of the clinic where he performed his tests. Much better than a "I'm clean, tested a couple of months ago". Reading some of the posts here one would assume that everyone here can't wait to get infected with some disease, hopefully chronic and several at the same time. Although I'm a barebacker I don't want to catch anything. It's true that people lie about their results but it's also true that there many guys like myself who just want to enjoy sex with no condoms without such fear of HIV and others. Why be so negative all the time?

Same here, not a top but it's clear that it would be easy to find bottoms, any age, any type. This top is attractive, he has a nice cock, very friendly, and he's not picky at all. I think this top likes to know his bottoms better, but even then. Bottoms are easy to get. I will have to ask him about this.

I often read about bottoms having trouble finding tops mostly because of competition or because many tops prefer younger bottoms. Younger bottoms have less competition too. But, are there any tops who have trouble finding bottoms to fuck and breed? I recently bumped into a nice top guy at the sauna. I knew the guy who was on the sling and after he fucked him and bred his hole he left. Later that day the top guy texted me asking me for the bottom's phone number. I said, what? A top looking for bottoms? Any tops who have trouble finding bottoms to fuck and breed?

We read account after account of bottoms, including myself, describing how much we enjoy getting fucked and taking loads. But we very rarely hear from guys, not necessarily tops, describing how much they enjoy fucking and how they feel when they unload in a hole. Is it addictive? Like, after 1/2 hour or so they want to continue fucking?

As most guys here I really enjoy presenting myself as a slutty bottom but not because I feel good feeling like a slutty bottom, but also because I get more action. At the sauna, for instance, instead of just waiting in my room like all other bottoms waiting to get bred, I "decorate" my room with signs that glow in the dark and that present me as a slutty bottom: "Cream this hole", or "Breed me". Guys have told me that the signs caught their attention and decided to come into my room and want to breed my hole. So, for me "being a slutty bottom" makes me feel good and brings me more action (i.e., loads).

I don't use them and don't like the smell either. I just tolerate them because I know it makes some guys hornier. I've always known that poppers help bottoms relax the hole. True? But I'd known many guys who need poppers to fuck which is why I started buying them and have them available for tops. When I didn't carry poppers with me, when at the bathhouse some guy wanted poppers to fuck I would end up loosing the fuck and the load. So I started carrying poppers with me. ,

I agree. Many total bottoms make the mistake to only want total tops to fuck them. As a total bottom I've never rejected anyone because they are not total tops. On the contrary, I remember a summer when I was in my 30's, kept myself in excellent shape. I was in a new city for the summer and would get off on hooking up with "total bottoms" and eventually getting them to fuck and breed my hole. As I knew I was hot, tall, masculine, nice body and good size cock, the bottom, with some exceptions, would eventually get a hard-on, and then they would feel my already lubed hole, and the fucking would come next. After breeding my hole one of the bottoms said to me "You tricked me". I kept meeting with a couple of them for the remainder of the summer. Feeling horny and enjoying sticking your stiff cock in a wet eager manhole is part of the physiology of men and has nothing to do with being top, bottom, or versatile. When I spend the night at the bathhouse I make sure to have my hole available at the time when the crowd starts winding down, and guys starting leaving. I know that at this time many guys who have been bottoming all night are horny and like to end the night with a good fuck so they look for a hole to plant their seed before they go home. Some enjoy the fucking itself and can go on for a long time before they unload. Other bottoms don't really enjoy the fucking itself and just want a hole to unload instead of having to jerk off. Just because a bottom breeds a hole he doesn't have to renounce to his total bottom status.

It would make more sense to me that anyone who enjoys getting fucked and taking loads should be versatile because he knows how much tops enjoy fucking and breeding a hole. I'm talking from experience, as someone who's taken more than a thousand loads. The grunts, the moans, the breathing, the yelling, all telling us that the top is fully enjoying the experience. I've always been a bottom and I don't understand why topping is not my thing.

Being 5'6" shouldn't stop you from being a good top because most bottoms don't have any problems accommodating to the top's height. Most bottoms will do whatever needs to be done for a fuck and a load. How about changing the environment? Have you tried topping at a bathhouse? There you can trying different bottoms and find the hole that will give you the "primal urge" that you want.

Yeah, and nothing better that the university toilets. My university had a raunchy toilet in the Student's Building, near the pool tables and the food machines (coffee, sandwiches, drinks, etc). The door was noisy so it would alert guys fooling around. The 4 toilet cubicles had a privacy wall and the last 2 cubicles were perfect for sex. The university Pub was just around the corner from this toilet so the best times were Friday or Saturday nights with lots of straight drunken guys coming for a piss. After many years, all of a sudden, the gloryholes were gone.

I took my first loads starting in the mid 70's at the YMCA in NYC and enjoyed going to NYC a few times a year and stay at the Y. I had heard about the Y from a friend a bit older than me who was a bottom and would tell me about his trips to the Y in NYC. The YMCA in NYC in the 1970's was a hot place for sex. I had to stop barebacking and taking loads in the early 80's, when everyone else started wearing condoms because of AIDS. But I still remember refusing a fuck from a top who insisted in wearing condoms. I already knew about the epidemic but I still wanted it raw. I eventually started wearing condoms too when I once got stealth and felt with my fingers a fresh load dripping out of my hole. I'm now slowing down.

For those who don't trust any information from AHF (AIDS Healthcare Foundation) and who want Weinstein dead because of his point of view, here is another source of information: CDC about the same topic. "The Center for Disease Control and Prevention reported troubling news on Tuesday that sexually transmitted infection rates skyrocketed over the last year, particularly among gay and bisexual men." The CDC is concerned about the use of PrEP. And here comes the ridiculous part: Although PrEP may be the culprit behind the wave of new STI infections, health groups including the World Health Organization are strongly urging men who have sex with men to get on the pill regimen but warn that the pill must be used with condoms to effectively prevent most STI infections How many guys in here are on PrEP and wearing condoms when they have sex? Does it make sense to have an organization like the CDC evaluate the defectiveness of PrEP based on the assumption that condoms are also being used? When we know that most men go on PrEP so they can have bareback sex. How about the antibiotic resistance? "The CDC warned that although treatments for most STIs are readily available, many STI strains are becoming antibiotic resistant, including gonorrhea."

And Gilead is not?

I found this definition of Panacea: "Something that will make everything about a situation better." PrEP is not a panacea and this is no reason to get defensive. Advocates of PrEP have to accept its shortcomings. How about remembering that there are many married men who enjoy casual sex with other men but are terrified by any kind of infection, not only HIV. These men don't have the luxury of just getting treated if by chance the catch some curable STD. Yeah, for some cock&cum-hungry bottom slut who's only concerned about HIV when he takes anon loads in darkrooms, PrEP may be good enough.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160908006730/en/AHF-UCLA-Study-Shows-Gay-Men-PrEP "AHF (AIDS Healthcare Foundation): New UCLA Study Shows Gay Men on PrEP Are 45 Times More Likely to Contract Syphilis; 25 Times More Likely To Be Infected With Gonorrhea" “Not only have gay and bisexual men largely rejected the relentless drumbeat for PrEP by the CDC and other agencies who have been dubiously shilling for Gilead, the men who are using PrEP are having increased condomless sex—contrary to the PrEP guidelines set by the CDC—and, as a result, are exposing themselves to dangerous sexually transmitted infections,” continued Weinstein." "Their findings come amid growing international concern about the rise of antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea and other STIs. In releasing its new guidelines for treating bacterial STIs last week, the World Health Organization (WHO) expressed concerns that “resistance of these STIs to the effect of antibiotics has increased rapidly in recent years and has reduced treatment options. Of the 3 STIs, gonorrhoea has developed the strongest resistance to antibiotics."

PrEP causes changes in behavior that increase the risk of other STD. I would consider this a side-effect. What happens when someone has to stop PrEP, will he be able to change back his behavior and stop taking anon loads at a bathhouse?

This is what read in the Slut Club website: Each third SUNDAY of the month The most legendary and talked about Sex Orgy Party in town in total darkness. At the entry you will get all you need, a pitlamp to use on your head and the bag for your clothes, so the fun can start from now on. Horny boys and big balls, Gang Bang in every corner, lights ou and party starts. Fuckin´ horny atmosphere being naked in boots with a flashing light on your head. It wouldn't be easy to do "safe sex". Not sure how you'll fight the temptation.