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This brings up the issue of abuse of insurance, the elephant in the room. Drug plans are great when all of a sudden you need to take an expensive medication because you're sick. Is it fair for insurance companies to cover PrEP, which means that every other premium has to pay a little more to cover those on PrEP, many who just want to be the cumhole for the weekend at the local bathhouse?

Every day I see on BarebackRT more and more guys on PrEP. Not sure if all are really on PrEP. If PrEP makes you bareback without worrying about HIV, what do you do about the other STDs? I know that a few shots will fix it but still, no infections are good. When on PrEP, do you feel you have to have sex more often to justify taking the medications? Otherwise, why take PrEP sex is you are not having sex very often? What happens after PrEP? Or are you planning to be on PrEP for life? It must be tough to be fucking freely on PrEP and then for some reason you have to stop, and you forget you stopped PrEP. You have to re-adjust to not being on PrEP. Still trying to understand the furor that PrEP is causing.

jtonic, I see what you mean but I still think that poz guys should not have to take so much responsibility for the other guys' health. Anyone playing around in BarebackRT should know that barebacking is high-risk when it's done with people you don't know well. If

I always wonder why someone who is HIV+ would want sex only with other HIV+ guy? Why not someone who is HIV- or on PrEP?

I believe that a crucial part of being a good bottom is to have a clean hole.

You mention that you are fully versatile and that you can take and also give loads. If that's the case, what's the problem if you can't get a hard-on? Why not be more of a bottom? (I hate promoting the bottom role given it's abundance!) Next time you get like that in a group just become the slutty bottom...Plus I think you're pretty hot or at least young.

The title "From Top to Bottom Cumslut" reminds me of the times when I was a young hot bottom with a gym body and a nice six pack, I would accept hook-ups with bottoms and enjoy the challenge of leaving with the bottom's load in my hole. I would first get them horned up touching my body and finger my hole pre-lubed. I never felt bad because they would have a lot of fun too shooting inside a hot bottom.

In my experience, other than in darkrooms a lot has to do with the way the bottom looks like and how young he is. I've seen the change with me as I age as a bottom and how easy getting sex was in my 20's and 30's. Also, at Steamworks in Toronto I've seen older guys laying on the public sling for a long time while guys walk by and no action. The same evening I saw a young bottom in his 20's on the sling getting fucked and others waiting for their turn. What I'm trying to say is that many times tops look for a cumdump with specific characteristics. Of course, sometimes when some horny guy breeds the bottom's hole laying on the sling it adds a special value to the creamed hole and other characteristics like age may be irrelevant. And the older bottom gets another load for one of the spectators.

In my case, I had a hemorrhoid operation when I was in my early 20's and had to deal with my hole so I llearned how to clean myself before getting fucked. But it seems like most bottoms had to have an "accident" as a wake-up call of how important having a clean hole is. Most of us don't want to make the connection between sex and shit, and being secretive about the cleaning breaks that connection. That's probably one of the reasons why I prefer anon sex to intimate and loving sex. Like most bottoms I would clean myself before going to the bathhouse so I could offer a "cumhole" as in a more intimate setting it becomes more difficult to disassociate sex from shit. Probably very similar to what happens with STDs. We should all be talking about STDs before having sex but who wants to connect Sex with STDs, unless you're a chaser? I had several long-term fuck-buddies that kept coming back for years and I think one reason was that they new a clean hole w waiting for them. That's why it baffles me that bathhouses don't have better facilities specifically for bottoms. Steamworks in Toronto was the first place where I saw good douching pipes next to the toilets. But most places don't offer much and they expect bottoms clean themselves at home. Experienced Bottoms may get some of the attention from tops because of the assumption they are also experienced at cleaning.

It makes sense what you are saying and don't find it strange that you like to toy around with the idea of pain as long as you are not the one feeling the pain. I can compare this "pain fetish" with the experience of my "HIV fetish". I don't want HIV so I would never be a chaser but I get off of negative bottoms getting bred by a poz top as long as I'm not that bottom. Same as with pain, fun but not you feeling the pain. In terms of screaming or moaning bottoms, anything but a screaming bottom who sounds like a girl.

For me it would be "Deep in my ass, but carries on fucking" with my hole mostly wide open while the top keeps pumping his load without needing to pull-out overwhelmed by the pressure that some bottoms use to supposedly "milk the cock". I like it when after shooting the top spends a couple of minutes enjoying my sloppy hole and letting go of the last drops of cum.

I totally agree that men should fuck raw. But the problem is that barebacking is perceived as something evil and forbidden. I've tried using barebacking in profiles, including Grindr, and my profile was rejected. The problem with barebacking exists only if barebackers don't get tested and are not committed to staying free of STDs. But there is no intrinsic problem with fucking raw and society should be able to accept it. The problem with barebacking has to do with the "don't care" attitude barebackers have with respect to STDs. I'm Pro-RAW but not Pro-POZ.

I've been as slutty as one can get but not anymore. At one point in my sex life I would have sex with as many guys as possible, 15 my max count of loads in one evening at the bathhouse. Taken thousands of loads using gloryholes including my own private gloryhole. I would allow to get fucked just by anyone with a hard-on, never picky although I had a nice muscular body. Maybe not the sluttiest, but at some point as slutty as one can get.

The guy you are describing is someone who is not committed to staying away from STIs. The people who benefit from a safestsex.org membership are people like me, someone who is committed to not catching anything. I don't want Syphilis, or Gonorrhea, and even less HIV. Their video in YouTube says it all https://www.youtube.com/embed/ayeaVIOhfes If one night, for some reason I end up in a bathouse and expose myself to STI risk, as a responsible member I should wait for the window period before I test myself and then enter into the system the new test results. Safestsex.org is not for everyone but at least their strategy is based on testing and providing more accurate information between fuck-buddies without having to talk about STIs.

Some bottoms are so greedy. I'm renting an apartment with a portable sling so I've been able to organize many orgies/gangbangs which usually starts with finding the slutty bottom. Bottoms start asking "How many tops?" or "Are they endowed?" "How old are the tops?" as if I could have a whole catalogue of men of their taste. Maybe if they paid for the service! Sometimes 2 tops show up sometimes more, up to 6 once. But it's impossible to predict how may guys would be turned on by a walk-in scene.

This reminded me about something I read in the FAQ in the safestsex.org site (http://safestsex.org/FAQnon-en.php) There's a discussion about the whole "lying" issue, which I found right on. How can self-reported information be trusted? Don’t people lie? Most people don't lie if the facts are clear. Regarding the disclosure of STIs the assumption is that people will always lie. In part some people may lie because of the feelings of shame regarding STDs or to hide their sexual lifestyle. But we cannot forget that there are also people who don't lie and who genuinely want to enjoy sexual experiences knowing that the risk of STI is as low as possible. This is a typical dialogue between two people negotiating sexual contact at a bathhouse: “Are you clean?”, “I tested a couple of months ago, how about you?” Isn’t it unreasonable to expect the truth from such ambiguous dialogue? To expect truth one should first demand clear facts. The STD test results provided by SafestSex.org members may be self-reported, but the data is clear and complete, including a list of tests with exact dates. Additionally, members can add more information to their STD Profile such as name, address of clinic, copy of certificate of HIV test, and frequency of testing. All this combined will increase the credibility of each STD profile. Collecting information with clear and unambiguous facts, the way SafestSex.org does, is the first step towards getting at the truth. SafestSex.org provides the online tool to facilitate the exchange of information that potential sexual partners need to make an informed decision about their level of STI/STD risks. An STD Profile reflects a higher level of commitment with the truth than an oral exchange which will be incomplete and motivated by passion more than reason. I like the concept they promote, test for ALL STI and share results. It's exactly what so many horny guys need when choosing a fuck-buddy. My safestsex.org membership works for me as a "serosorting" tool but for all STI. If someone cannot take 10 minutes of his life to register as a member and enter his last test results so I can see them on my screen when he allows me to, it means that that guy is not committed to avoiding STIs.

It's inaccurate to call bare sex unsafe because if all involved are tested and not contagious then there is nothing unsafe about bareback sex. "Get tested" is the philosophy of SafestSex.org which I strongly recommend. Get tested and be able to show you have been tested. Some like to push PrEP, but I find safestsex.org by far the best alternative. The problem is that the site is new and not many know about it. I joined 3 months ago and I'm starting to find other members.

Reading some of the posts in this site I sometimes start believing that everyone lies about their status and that if you bareback, you will eventually poz. I think both are wrong assumptions. Regarding lying: SafestSex.org claims that it's not that people lie about their status but that the dialogue about STI is always ambiguous. SafestSex.org claims that just having clear facts in your STI Screening Profile will already reduce the risk. A typical dialogue: "Are you clean?" , “I’m clean, tested couple of months ago.” Instead of an ambiguous dialogue SafestSex.org members can exchange their STI test information online and break the ambiguity, list of tests, exact dates, validation information, etc. When someone has to complete an online form in the process of becoming a member the commitment to truth is higher than just a causal "I'm clean." type dialogue. It's hard to argue against this claim. Will all barebackers eventually poz? Not if you have sex with others who are not infected and test regularly. Uber connects drivers with passengers so I can't see why can't an application like SafestSex.org can't connect horny guys and reduce the risk? Where is this sense of gloom and doom coming from? The belief that there is no solution possible to avoid STI other than pharmaceutical solutions (PrEP) which are not really sustainable. This negativity towards STI prevention solutions is probably the result of a huge frustration we all experience that sexual activities have their limits, if health is an issue. It would be great there were no STI at all, and we call all do whatever we want with bodies and fluids, but we can't, if health is an issue. We need a more positive attitude that can replace this gloom and doom https://www.youtube.com/embed/ayeaVIOhfes

I'm visiting Santiago in Chile, staying in a downtown apartment equipped with one of those portable slings in the dining room area (See attached images). "CULO A PELO" in the sign means "Raw Hole" and the letters glow in the dark. That was the setup in the apartment. Lately I've been more than ever concerned about the risk of infection in most of the stuff we like doing with guys, from oral to raw breeding. I've managed to avoid infections, almost miraculously, after so much bareback sex. So what do I do to satisfy my fetishes without putting myself in so much risk? I've managed to organize a small group of guys who are also concerned of STI who are now all members of safestsex.org. At least the basic info on tests is clear. We've had 2 sessions, one with 4 guys, and another myself with one more. We used the sling and it was all bareback. all but one were married guys and very worried of infections. I've also organized regular bareback sessions on the sling where guys don't care and status is not an issue. Obviously these have been easier to arrange and the result has been incredible. I don't get involved in anything that may put me at risk, even sucking and getting sucked. I decided to just make sure the scene would be super hot and that I would please myself from watching all of this. Last night it was simply phenomenal. Because I'm fluent in Spanish it's been easy to talk to guys. I met a 36 yr old jock-type, very masculine, but eager to be a cumdump, a long time fantasy of his, never done it before. I first took pictures of him on the sling, with the sign behind him (See 3rd pic) and used them to get tops willing to come over to the apartment and breed his hole. By the end of the night the bottom cumdump had taken 6 loads, 4 of them right at the end one after the other. It was amazing and while all of this was happening it brought back memories and in a way I wish I was the bottom on the sling. All guys were between 25 and 45 and myself the only mature and over 60. It would have been unrealistic to pretend I could replicate a hot 36 yr-old cumdump who everyone wanted to fuck and breed. And then also I know from experience that no matter how many experiences one has, we all want more. I spoke this morning with the cumdump and he told me he jerked off twice already thinking about last night and he wants more. Is it worth putting oneself at such risk just to satisfy the urge to take loads? I've done it myself so I understand. Before leaving last night the bottom cumdump told me how now he's got to wait for the tests in 3 more months. And from experience I know how tormenting can be to have to wait to know the outcome. This guy does not want to poz, he told me, but he can't wait and postpone the thrill. We'll see in 3 more months what happens because HIV status was never discussed. Personally, although I must admit I was envious of the bottom, today I feel relieved that I never placed myself at any risk and that if I had, I would still need to continue exposing myself to the risk. Anyone interested in a gang-bang everything goes? Come to Santiago and rent this apartment with sling included.

I found this a great video: http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/Daddy-fucking-me-from-behind-29500331 From lekesppas, "Daddy fucking me from behind" What I liked about this video is that not only the top deep breeds the bottom's hole, but also at the end the bottom shoots a huge load. Great video!

I appreciate the honesty in this post instead of the constant glorification of infections you read in so many posts around here. I get some of the fetish aspects of this glorification of STIs but the rationality that defines us as human has to always prevail, at least in my reality. To me it makes no sense to try to harm your body in an activity (sex) where your body is the focus of the pleasure of sex. I've always feared HIV infection because of the consequences of the infection itself (fuck flue) or side effects of the drugs, because both would prevent me from enjoying sex. I think that the best solution is the one offered by the site safestsex.org because it contains all the ingredients for the perfect solution: if everyone is tested and only have sex with similar people, the risk is the same as the one in monogamy. Not easy to achieve, but possible. I personally would have enjoyed being in a bathhouse or sex club where I knew everyone was tested and non-contagious with all STIs. Just bareback with anyone you please without worrying about anything. That would be my ideal situation because for me sex is what turns me on, not disease.

Even at the baths, while taking loads not in a gang-bang, I have trouble keeping track of how many loads I've taken. I find it hard to distinguish from guys who like to fuck but not cum from the guys who cum very quietly and then leave. Once I have a load in my hole I sometimes can't be sure the guy shot his load. I feel the first load because of the added lube.

I think that in some open relationships STDs can still be problem, especially HIV.

I'm in a loving relationship, we both enjoy each others company, but sex is not something one man can fulfill. We recognize the need for an open relationship but we were both worried about STIs. We both joined safestsex.org and the agreement we have is to only have have sexual contact with other safestsex.org members. So far it's working out quite well and eventually we want to become validated members. A couple of days ago I hooked-up with a guy, we met at a park, he fucked me, bred my hole and I was not worried that he may be infected. I had seen his test results, dates and the location of the clinic where he performed his tests. Much better than a "I'm clean, tested a couple of months ago". Reading some of the posts here one would assume that everyone here can't wait to get infected with some disease, hopefully chronic and several at the same time. Although I'm a barebacker I don't want to catch anything. It's true that people lie about their results but it's also true that there many guys like myself who just want to enjoy sex with no condoms without such fear of HIV and others. Why be so negative all the time?

Same here, not a top but it's clear that it would be easy to find bottoms, any age, any type. This top is attractive, he has a nice cock, very friendly, and he's not picky at all. I think this top likes to know his bottoms better, but even then. Bottoms are easy to get. I will have to ask him about this.