hungry_hole

This is one of the issues that keeps me from wanting to top. As a bottom my hole has been resilient and after more than 1,000 loads never caught anything of significance. The couple of times topping I remember some sort of urinary infection or discomfort.

I wouldn't say that CL posters who bareback deserve to get stealth just because of the anonymity that CL provides. And I would sy that careless barebacking is stupid is one is concerned with STDs. I think of stealthing as being facilitated by anonymous encounters because these kinds of hook-ups show a lack of concern with STD. Because requiring tops to fuck with a condom doesn't mean to just check if the condom is in place. That is careless form the part of a bottom who wants to play safe. The other interpretation is that it's all role playing and that maybe he's already poz but pretending otherwise. In anonymous situations nobody can separate truth from fiction because that's the whole point. In any event, I wish we could read more stories, hopefully real, of guys who have stealthed anon bottoms just because they were given the opportunity. I'm sure that most guys who have stealthed anon bottoms, not necessarily being poz, wouldn't feel comfortble telling the stories. Too bad, because they would be hot!

I wish they made poppers available in Canada...

I love the slutty action in the darkroom at the baths, but I usually become anxious that maybe one of those loads I took on the public sling or in the darkroom infected me. That feeling sometimes makes me more slutty because I think that what's the point of selecting the loads when one never knows. Another point. Is not testing a form of stealthing? Because one is hiding the possibility that the virus is present. A guy who doesn't test but has a lot of sex poses as much risk to an HIV-negative person as a poz guy, yet the guy who has not tested has the right to say "I'm HIV-negative" with no judgment. Fair?

Maybe I haven't made myself clear because I notice anger as if I were forcing bottoms to become tops or at least versatile. I am not suggesting that at all. A bottom should continue to be a bottom if that's what he wants. A bottom shoots cum and does the same as any top, which is what a versatile guy is. At the baths many total bottoms have to shoot their loads at some point, sometimes just to be able to go home, back to work, or falling asleep. I imagine that what most bottoms at the baths do after taking a few loads is to jerk off in their rooms, take a shower and leave the place. Other slutty bottoms are a "versatile-bottom" may take a few loads, then top another bottom and cream his hole, then back to taking loads. I have considered topping at the baths and/or darkrroms. I've been tempted of sticking my hard cock in a warm sloppy hole in a darkroom, done it a couple of times. It's definitely hot just because of the anonymity. But in my case, I don't feel comfortable sticking my cock in a manhole, afraid of finding shit or catching a urinary infection (I got those, not STDs). Here is another reason for not topping: I've noticed at the baths that guys from top to verstile-top fuck differently from the guy who is "more of a bottom". The bottom guys who fuck do it mainly to breed the hole and generally don't last very long. Top guys can pound a hole for hours! I was once fucked and bred in a sling at the baths by a bottom hot dude who'd been taking loads in his room. He got interested in what he saw in my room so he walked in. He started playing with my hole, got hard, stuck his cock in my hole a bit and started to like it, but then started to freak out and to tell me that he never tops that he's a total bottom. The idea of topping and seeding a hole seemed to contradict him being a total bottom. I managed to convince him to fuck me and he eventually bred my hole. It took some effort on my part to convince him to stick his cock back in and to give me his load which was accompanied by very hot moans and groans. He definitely enjoyed the breeding. After he composed himself and pulled out, he started to apologizing for cuming so fast and that he was a bottom and that hadn't fucked in years but that the hole in the underwear on the sling turned him on too much. It's true that many bottoms cum too quickly, but I don't care and I actually I love it. A total bottom can still fuck and breed other holes and continue feeling proud of being a bottom. Some bottoms don't want to cum because they stop feeling horny, but they don't realize that after a few minutes you're horny again and can continue getting pounded. That night I saw the bottom who had bred my hole getting fucked in his room. A bottom can benefit from taking a break and breed another hole in between his breeding sessions because after a few minutes he's energized. Take a few loads, take break, walk around looking for another hole, dump your load, take few minutes rest and back to taking loads, with even more energy. I hope bottoms stopped thinking that in order to be a true bottom one can never breed a hole. Any bottoms can explain why not breeding other than "I'm a total bottom"?

A case of a bottom who starts to breed holes after pozing. Of course, with consent. A similar case, a guy who gets turned on by the idea of breeding holes fter pozing. Other cases of guys who became very horny tops after converting. Some were probably total bottoms. I read about this fantasy so much, about feeling different and a top after pozing, but I can't believe that the truth is always told. I'm sure that many poz guys, even some reading this discussion, have at some point lied about their status and said they were HIV-neg when having sex with some stranger.

I don't like the music, I actually hate it.

"Are you ready for my load?" is a question most bareback bottoms get asked at some point or another in our breeding sessions. My most common response is "Yeah, and go deep when you shoot" just to make it clear that I am ready for his load. What do other bb bottoms respond when asked "Are you ready for my load?"

Sometimes bottoms are a bit too pushy with their need for seed and that makes tops feel pressured to shoot their loads when they are not ready for it because they want to fuck for a bit longer. A bottom moaning and groaning can be hot for the top but not when it's the repetitive moaning found in straight porn. I personally when I bottom don't like to do much moaning and groaning and instead prefer to talk dirty to the top. I listen to him and find out what he enjoys. I tell him how much I'm enjoying his cock and that my hole is now for his cock and eventually his load. I say it as a turn on but also as a clear signal that he is to dump his load inside. I also tell him to go deep when he shoots his load. But not much repetitive moaning and groaning.

I'm not sure why you need to dispose it after 2 days. If you described the situation a bit better it is more likely you get some better tips. Is it in a house? An apartment? Do you live alone? The best is having a gloryhole in a house where access to the gloryhole is very discrete, in a back lane, or side door into the garage. That way guys coming to get sucked don't go into the home itself. I had a private gloryhole for many years in my apartment and made very good use of it. There is a door into the bedrooms right next to the entry so guys would come in and I would wait behind the GH.

If you are enjoying being a top and bottoming "barely excites you", why don't you you just keep toping?

PrEP may be helping with HIV, but how about the other STDs? Anybody on PrEP has caught other STDs? Just read: "Gay men account for 95 percent of new cases as syphilis rates soar in British Columbia, Canada" It goes on to say “Rates of infectious syphilis are the highest they’ve been in 30 years,”

Some tops like hairy holes, others smooth ones. A big dilemma for bottoms. Are there holes that are permanently loose? Because to me a loose hole is the best because for a tight hole a bottom needs only to squeeze.

Anyone into a black cock breeding a white hole? When the black top pulls out is really hot...you see his cock still leaking cum. Hot, hot, hot! African Fucker "Big Fucker fucks hard and cums a huge load.": http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/African-Fucker-27736821

hotpussyboy, do you mean that you can't get your cock hard enough to fuck? I'm not asking for bottoms to become tops, but I know some "total bottoms" do breed holes too. btm2bbred says it best: I'm a "total bottom" but never breed because I don't like the thought of finding a dirty hole.

I've experienced it myself at the sauna and see it all the time in videos: The top breeds the hole, composes himself, gives a slap on the ass, and leaves. many times no words. Is the slap a thank you? At least that's what appears to be. Any top who could comment?

Why didn't you just allow yourself to get fucked by & with whoever you want whenever you want. Why did you have to wait until you were poz to be a slut?

There is always an increase of sensitivity, in some more than others. For many tops a "tight hole" is no good at the time of the breeding, which is why I always open up my hole as soon as the top goes over the edge. If the top needs more friction he can just go deeper into my hole. If I tighten my hole at this moment is only for a second just to check if the top enjoys it.

Ignoring the reference to "deviant lifestyle" there is a kernel of truth in this comment. Taxes and insurance premiums have to increase when drugs are provided by the government or when more people get coverage. There's no doubt about it.

In Xtube I much prefer the available free amateur videos. Knowing that the scenes are real, especially pump-load/anon scenes, makes it a huge turn-on for me. What I don't like about amateur videos is that in most the faces are hidden. I like close-ups of the cock and the fuck-hole, but I also like to watch, both the top and the bottom's faces as the breeding is in progress. I like listening to the verbal exchange and watching the faces. In amateur porn many of the faces are off camera. That also happens with professional porn where the faces are hidden. Does anyone pay to watch videos in Xtube? I've paid a couple of times but I've never felt it was worth it.

"Raw Muscle Bottom Takes on Two Raw Tops" by boymatt23. Lots of hot dirty talk. http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=kZWEc-G409-

Guys like having sex with guys they know (lover or fuck-buddy), or NSA anon sex at a sauna or sex club. So to determine whether someone is selfish selfish I would have to know if we are talking about anonymous sex or sex with someone you know. In anonymous sex I'm extreme and I believe that, within reason, anything goes. I believe this because anon encounters are supposed to fulfill fantasies and fetishes. I see no problem with SirPhilippe walking around in a sauna trying to get his rocks off without any consideration of the other participants. Anon sex is all about satisfying yourself without having to worry about someone else, where others are simply there to complete your fantasy. This is why when talking about honesty about HIV status or stealthing, I have to know if were we talking about anon sex or not. I accept that in anon sex everything goes. But if SirPhilippe has a lover or fuck-buddy, then his sexual partners have to decide whether his attitude is selfish and undesirable, and let him know. They may like his "selfishness" or not. But in anon sex, "atta-boy".

Sex free of STDs is almost impossible if what you like is NSA anonymous sex, whether you're HIV- or HIV+. Some guys here have talked about their experience with Hep-C, which is not nice. I've been able to dodge HIV infection but if I get infected I don't want to regret all the fun I've had.

I think it's easier for older bottoms to feel proud of their bottom role than it is for younger guys. I see it on the stats. Most take-all loads slutty bottoms tend to be older which why I think that young slutty bottoms get so much attention in saunas and darkrooms. When I was young I would become a slutty bottom when I was away in New York or Toronto and get a lot of attention.

Agreeing with ancusp89, Bottomhole, and GermanFucker, these are my comments. Why wait until you're poz before you allow yourself to be a cumpig? Also, why get so involved in the chasing scene, which only lasts until you poz, when you can get into the breeding scene which lasts forever? The "freedom" achieved by being poz keeps coming up. Bottomhole is someone who has not experienced that freedom. It makes sense to find advantages in the experience of being poz. But it does not make sense to use those advantages as a motivation for pozing. It's good that someone who's poz becomes aware of their eating and exercising habits. But wanting to eat better is no reason for wanting to poz. Just eat well. Similarly, just be a slut and you may never poz.