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Anonymous sex in general, whether is group action, cock or ass, is so hot that it becomes difficult to avoid and one is easily exposed to infections. I'm trying to avoid HIV and all other infections but I know I can easily slip and put myself at risk. Not to mention the possible fuck-flu 4-6 weeks after and then the 3 months wait for the test. Worth it? When you're horny in the darkroom it is worth it. Five minutes later comes the regret. I'm like you but in order to relax I would prefer anon partners be tested for all STIs. My dream would be to attend a special event, something like a CumUnion party, but everybody attending being safestsex.org members recently tested for all STDs and a blood test on entry to the party. In my view that would be awesome, a sex club with slings, glorholes and darkrooms full of horny guys who are tested.

I agree that the feeling of a cock pounding your hole can be an amazing experience. But instead of "esp. with poz cock. " I woudl say "esp. with anon cock." For me the fetish is not with poz but with cocks being anonymous, which of course can be poz.

I think this paragraph tells me that you don't understand the concept behind SafestSex.org because you say that the best policy is testing which is the fundamental part of the safestsex.org strategy: get tested, get tested, get tested.The only thing is that as a safestsex.org member you will be required to enter the specific details of each of the tests so then this information can be exchanged with other members and see when your potential fuck-buddy got tested for the different STDs. It's true that guys on PrEP get tested frequently but guys who aren't on PrEP can also test frequently and if he's a member he can the enter the data from tests into his STD profile. SafestSex.org membership has many "side effects" such as learning more about STDs and being aware of ways to prevent STDs. I also like it because it keeps track of my tests which I sometimes forget the dates. "It's been 8 months? I thought my last tests were done a couple of months ago". SafestSex.org provides you with a tool to help prevent STDs. But it's up to you how you how to use the membership. Any members here? My SSXID is KUK777Q19 and I'd like to exchange with other members. You would have to tell me because a member won't see my data in their screen until I get to see the other member's data on my screen. Having my ID does not make my data public. SafestSex.org is not a magic bullet that will make you immune to all STDs. I keep dreaming. I find myself sometimes with strong feelings to go to a bathhouse and have all kinds of sex with guys in the darkroom and in the gloryholes. Right now I could never have anon sex at a very low risk by knowing all guys are tested and as committed as I am to staying away from STDs. But I could see that it may be possible to have really slutty sex with not so much risk. It may possible.

Maybe in your case PrEP makes you feel free because all you care is protecting yourself from HIV. You decided to ignore Hep-C and Herpes and you feel that Chlamydia, Gonorrhea and Syphilis are not a big deal. But most people outside this Fetish/Fantasy world called "Breeding Zone" would have trouble understanding how could someone care so little about STDs. It's always better to avoid taking medications, especially these powerful medications found in PrEP. That's why my question #3, "What happens after PrEP?", is important. I recently went to a specialist who prescribed some medications for life and blood tests every 3 months to check my liver and kidneys, similar to PrEP. I said "Fuck you!" I found another solution to my problem. The question "For how long will I be on PrEP?" would be what I would ask myself. The only sensible way to use PrEP is as a complement to another more sustainable strategy like Safestsex.org. I know that as a safestsex.org member I'm only reducing the risk of STDs because the information I get from other members is clear and includes all STDs. I can organize small orgies and meet other members at the local bathhouse reducing the risk, but I could not go to any sauna and take all cocks or fuck a hole that turns me on. As a member I can still have anon sex but then I have to be responsible and wait for the required time before I do my tests again. Only then I can meet with other safestsex.org members. But I run the risk of catching HIV, so PrEP can be of help. A SafestSex.org member who takes a two-week "sexation" to Fort Lauderdale can go on PrEP a few days before until a few days after the holiday. This is what I mean using PrEP as a complement to a safestsex.org membership. But PrEP is used for a certain period of time, unlike the case of most guys on PrEP who have no idea when they'll stop. Safestsex.org is not for everybody, just like PrEP. I know PrEP let's slutty bottoms take anon loads without the fear of HIV, but I'm sure that something like safestsex.org may eventually evolve in my area to the point where you can actually have anon sex at a reduced risk. It's just a matter of people joining in and it could be possible. Any other comments from guys on PrEP? How long will you be on PrEP?

It's a good point. Are erectile issues in tops present in one-to-one or also in group sex? I ask because many times I see in bathhouses even bottoms topping some sloppy holes or share it with another top. So I imagine tops can also get some stimulation from the other tops apart from a Viagra pill. A top can suck some cock and that would make him hard. I'm assuming erectile issues are more common in one-to-one encounters. I may be wrong.

You're right, it is an incredible experience. Although for many shooting a load in a hole is also an incredible experience, which many bottoms can attest to from the experiences of getting bred. But I guess having a load in my hole, a part of another man, makes it hotter I guess. The top gets up and leaves but the load stays inside.

PrEP is not accessible to everyone. Accepting the possibility of pozing for someone who lives a "perfectly good heterosexual sex life" is not easy because the consequences of your actions fall on many other people like spouse and children and having to face the heterosexual world as an HIV+ individual. I would suggest you evaluate how important it is for you to stay HIV-negative and how devastating would it be if you became poz. If you don't care about HIV then just go for it and become a slut to horny guys in darkrooms. If you need to remain HIV-negative because pozing would complicate your personal life, you need some protection from HIV. One solution is PrEP but the problem is that you are still exposed to other infections not protected by PrEP. You need now to evaluate whether or not being exposed to other infections like Syphilis has to be avoided at all cost or you can afford being the risk of infection. If you can handle the curable infections and accept a low risk of Herpes and Hepc-C, PrEP is a good solution, at least for a few years. If you need to avoid all STDs your best solution is a membership with safestsex.org because the information you would get from other members is relevant to making a decision to have or not to have sex with someone when trying to protect from STDs. The problem with the strategy offered by safestsex.org is that new member cannot expect to be protected from STDs in extremely anonymous situations, like a darkroom. What I've heard is that in some large cities (not sure if the US or Canada) they have organized SafestSex.org Parties, sort of like CumUnion but much smaller I imagine. I don't have the details of how that works but I can imagine that if everyone is tested it should be fun to get all in a bathhouse or some club. Something I've learned throughout the years is that I always thought I needed to have the experience because it was my last chance. Unless you are getting close to 50 you don't need to rush and instead make sure to make the best decision.

In another thread where poptronic discussed "performance issues" as a top and I suggested that he bottom, he answers: Why are there so many bottoms when in the straight world men do anything to fuck a pussy. It should be full of horny tops looking for a hole to fuck. But that's not the way it is. Every sauna, every sex club, packed with bottoms.

I think that 50 is too soon to be receiving so many rejections. At 50 I felt old and less desirable but the experiences I was having told me a different story because I was having lots of sex and getting good feedback from guys. I would say that 60's is definitely a turning point in the arena of sex with men and is when you go from a "daddy" to a "grandpa" category. Most young guys who are into "older" they usually mean men somewhere between 40-55. Of course there are exceptions and I even know a guy in his 30's who likes men 55 and up. Older than 55 and 60 tops don't seem to have any problem getting young bottoms even in their 20's. Most older tops prefer younger bottoms which is what makes it harder for older bottoms. I'm sure some older guys chose being a top because it gets them more action. Any older top in this situation?

When I started barebacking I felt "exhibitionist" by being outspoken about wanting raw sex, something very common now but very rare then. I also feel an "exhibitionist" when at the bathhouse I put signs in my room that say exactly what I'm looking for, such as "Cream my Hole". Posting those signs in my room made me horny and I felt exhibitionist.

I find that for a gang-bang to be fun there must be a bottom that excites a group of tops, all eager waiting for their turn to fuck. It usually happens with a young bottom on the sling.

This brings up the issue of abuse of insurance, the elephant in the room. Drug plans are great when all of a sudden you need to take an expensive medication because you're sick. Is it fair for insurance companies to cover PrEP, which means that every other premium has to pay a little more to cover those on PrEP, many who just want to be the cumhole for the weekend at the local bathhouse?

Every day I see on BarebackRT more and more guys on PrEP. Not sure if all are really on PrEP. If PrEP makes you bareback without worrying about HIV, what do you do about the other STDs? I know that a few shots will fix it but still, no infections are good. When on PrEP, do you feel you have to have sex more often to justify taking the medications? Otherwise, why take PrEP sex is you are not having sex very often? What happens after PrEP? Or are you planning to be on PrEP for life? It must be tough to be fucking freely on PrEP and then for some reason you have to stop, and you forget you stopped PrEP. You have to re-adjust to not being on PrEP. Still trying to understand the furor that PrEP is causing.

jtonic, I see what you mean but I still think that poz guys should not have to take so much responsibility for the other guys' health. Anyone playing around in BarebackRT should know that barebacking is high-risk when it's done with people you don't know well. If

I always wonder why someone who is HIV+ would want sex only with other HIV+ guy? Why not someone who is HIV- or on PrEP?

I believe that a crucial part of being a good bottom is to have a clean hole.

You mention that you are fully versatile and that you can take and also give loads. If that's the case, what's the problem if you can't get a hard-on? Why not be more of a bottom? (I hate promoting the bottom role given it's abundance!) Next time you get like that in a group just become the slutty bottom...Plus I think you're pretty hot or at least young.

The title "From Top to Bottom Cumslut" reminds me of the times when I was a young hot bottom with a gym body and a nice six pack, I would accept hook-ups with bottoms and enjoy the challenge of leaving with the bottom's load in my hole. I would first get them horned up touching my body and finger my hole pre-lubed. I never felt bad because they would have a lot of fun too shooting inside a hot bottom.

In my experience, other than in darkrooms a lot has to do with the way the bottom looks like and how young he is. I've seen the change with me as I age as a bottom and how easy getting sex was in my 20's and 30's. Also, at Steamworks in Toronto I've seen older guys laying on the public sling for a long time while guys walk by and no action. The same evening I saw a young bottom in his 20's on the sling getting fucked and others waiting for their turn. What I'm trying to say is that many times tops look for a cumdump with specific characteristics. Of course, sometimes when some horny guy breeds the bottom's hole laying on the sling it adds a special value to the creamed hole and other characteristics like age may be irrelevant. And the older bottom gets another load for one of the spectators.

In my case, I had a hemorrhoid operation when I was in my early 20's and had to deal with my hole so I llearned how to clean myself before getting fucked. But it seems like most bottoms had to have an "accident" as a wake-up call of how important having a clean hole is. Most of us don't want to make the connection between sex and shit, and being secretive about the cleaning breaks that connection. That's probably one of the reasons why I prefer anon sex to intimate and loving sex. Like most bottoms I would clean myself before going to the bathhouse so I could offer a "cumhole" as in a more intimate setting it becomes more difficult to disassociate sex from shit. Probably very similar to what happens with STDs. We should all be talking about STDs before having sex but who wants to connect Sex with STDs, unless you're a chaser? I had several long-term fuck-buddies that kept coming back for years and I think one reason was that they new a clean hole w waiting for them. That's why it baffles me that bathhouses don't have better facilities specifically for bottoms. Steamworks in Toronto was the first place where I saw good douching pipes next to the toilets. But most places don't offer much and they expect bottoms clean themselves at home. Experienced Bottoms may get some of the attention from tops because of the assumption they are also experienced at cleaning.

It makes sense what you are saying and don't find it strange that you like to toy around with the idea of pain as long as you are not the one feeling the pain. I can compare this "pain fetish" with the experience of my "HIV fetish". I don't want HIV so I would never be a chaser but I get off of negative bottoms getting bred by a poz top as long as I'm not that bottom. Same as with pain, fun but not you feeling the pain. In terms of screaming or moaning bottoms, anything but a screaming bottom who sounds like a girl.

For me it would be "Deep in my ass, but carries on fucking" with my hole mostly wide open while the top keeps pumping his load without needing to pull-out overwhelmed by the pressure that some bottoms use to supposedly "milk the cock". I like it when after shooting the top spends a couple of minutes enjoying my sloppy hole and letting go of the last drops of cum.

I totally agree that men should fuck raw. But the problem is that barebacking is perceived as something evil and forbidden. I've tried using barebacking in profiles, including Grindr, and my profile was rejected. The problem with barebacking exists only if barebackers don't get tested and are not committed to staying free of STDs. But there is no intrinsic problem with fucking raw and society should be able to accept it. The problem with barebacking has to do with the "don't care" attitude barebackers have with respect to STDs. I'm Pro-RAW but not Pro-POZ.

I've been as slutty as one can get but not anymore. At one point in my sex life I would have sex with as many guys as possible, 15 my max count of loads in one evening at the bathhouse. Taken thousands of loads using gloryholes including my own private gloryhole. I would allow to get fucked just by anyone with a hard-on, never picky although I had a nice muscular body. Maybe not the sluttiest, but at some point as slutty as one can get.

The guy you are describing is someone who is not committed to staying away from STIs. The people who benefit from a safestsex.org membership are people like me, someone who is committed to not catching anything. I don't want Syphilis, or Gonorrhea, and even less HIV. Their video in YouTube says it all https://www.youtube.com/embed/ayeaVIOhfes If one night, for some reason I end up in a bathouse and expose myself to STI risk, as a responsible member I should wait for the window period before I test myself and then enter into the system the new test results. Safestsex.org is not for everyone but at least their strategy is based on testing and providing more accurate information between fuck-buddies without having to talk about STIs.