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This is true in my case and it manifests itself as only wanting anon sex, even being a bottom. But to me this is only a problem with sex with women. I would have trouble getting into sex "women style", dinners, blah, blah, etc. In order to claim that one is suffering from Erectile Dysfunction first one has to imagine possible hot scenarios that may be a turn on. Not sure what this scenario would be for poptronic. Many guys get really turned-on by being a top in a gang-bang, with multiple breeders. Even bottoms are sometimes turned-on by a sloppy hole. Poptronic, would you get a hard-on in this circumstances? In your case a gang-bang may not be your cup of tea. If I did top I may identify with poptronic. But I'm certain that I don't have ED because with some good porn or some hot anon action I have no erectile problems.

A poz friend of mine who's on Meds told me that in his last visit to the doctor his VL was zero (0). According to his doctor a VL of zero is not common.

Don't owners and/or managers of sex-clubs and bathouses realize the value that darkrooms and dark areas add to these places? I've had countless suggestions and discussions with owners and manager about the lighting and how bright some areas are. A local baths has a Blackout event once a month and the place is packed at lunch time. It's true that many guys get turned off by the idea of sex in the dark and not being able to see the other guy. But for many sex in darkrooms is very hot. Any mid-size and biger bathouses should have some hallways and rooms area at different lighting levels so everybody can find what they want. I once went to a bathouse in South America that had a sling in a fairly dark area, which I found really hot. But I would like to find a sling in a completely dark room where tops can't see the bottoms and vice-versa. A truly anon sling breeding fest in the dark, which would be so hot to hear the anonymous moans and groans. I wonder if it has something to do with insurance policies.

This definitely clarifies it for me because being on Meds does not necessarily mean "undetectable".

I like using Grindr when visiting a new city. New meat always catches guys' attention and I usually end up hooking up. But I would never use Grindr while at home.

I'm sure that you like the idea of not finding any teeth in a butthole, which is smooth, wet and totally adaptable to the cock by tightening or loosening the hole.

From what I've noticed many undetectable guys have their HIV status as "Positive". Maybe some forget to change it after they start takings meds.

For me this story is a clear evidence that stealthing in anon places, whether is lying about status, tampering with condom or turning used condom around, is a totally acceptable behavior. First, in the same way Bbreedmebb doesn't publicly bareback, many wanna-be sluts and cumdumps also don't want to completely accept being complete sluts. In my case I was stealthed and then started barebacking and taking loads. Second, from the story it's also clear that anon stealthing requires a careless bottom who just wants to be "a hole" where guys can make a deposit. What makes anon encounters hot is that the top wants an anon hole to fuck, breed, and then just leave. On the other hand, a bottom wants an anon cock to fuck his hole, dump his load, and leave. How can one expect honesty, trust, morality to play any role in these kinds of sexual encounters? I can't even see the law getting involved in a conflict between a cock and a hole.

It's inevitable that as one ages, the older the man the less desired he feels. I can easily come to terms with "being less desired" by simply remembering that in my youth older men were either invisible to me or sometimes repulsive and annoying. I used to enjoy cruising in parks and I was frustrated by the high number of older men (over 40). I wanted a place with men my age in their 20's and 30's. Looking back I now realize that I was being too closed minded and probably lost some good experiences with older men. But at the time that is what I needed. Part of the appeal for "young slutty bottoms" is that they are scarce. Many young guys fantasize about it but don't have the guts. Any time a 18-22-year twink take-all-loads bottom gets on a public sling at the baths will probably take load after load, even from so-called total bottoms and from guys who don't even like twinks. In contrast, a 60-year old bottom can expect to lie on the same sling for hours without anyone paying any attention. When I go to the baths, which I don't very often go now, I use things to stand apart from other bottoms. I don't use public slings because the age thing. But I rent a room with a sling because I know that some guys would fuck me but need some privacy. I also "decorate" my room with strategic signs that glow in the dark. These signs have really worked well for me.

I used to visit NYC around that time. One night I was desperately trying to find The Minshaft but could never find it. In the process I ran into the club "Glory Hole". It was $10 membership and then another $10 to get in. It was a maze full of partitions and gloryholes but I remember there being lots of light. One could clearly see a guy getting fucked or sucking a cock. I was in my early 20's then and it ended up being a bit too much for me so I didn't stay too long. The memories of sex in NYC in the 1970's were triggered by last night's episode of SNL. (April 2, 2016). One of the skits is staged in an elegant restaurant that used to be a sexclub in the 1970's. The skit shows a gloryhole that was supposedly kept from the old sexclub in the Meatpacking area of NYC (Mineshaft?). It was funny, especially to us who are familiar with sex in those days. My first encounter with men was in the West Side YMCA (5 W 63rd St) in one of my visits to NYC in the late 70's. Without knowing what to expect my first time at the YMCA was an amazing experience from the sex point of view. The building had 10-12 floors and the top 3 floors were being rented by the day, let's say floors 10,11,12. The rooms were small and sort of dirty and smelly, but I didn't mind. The first time I stayed at the West Side YMCA I just watched and didn't have the guts to do anything. Mostly young guys because the YMCA was kind of a Hostel for cheap accommodation for young guys visiting NYC. The experience was an eye-opener to my view that I had of sexuality and freedom. There was a slutty bottom staying right across the hall and I would hear how guys would be coming into his room all night. This whole experience became the foundations of a recurring dream I have of a certain place for sex, and it is clearly the YMCA in NYC in the 1970's. I went many times to NYC and I always stayed at the YMCA, but now I knew what to expect and couldn't wait to get there. Each floor had a bathroom where guys would hang around shaving, showering. But it was fun to know that many of the young men were also new to the scene. And some were even a bit homophobic. At night things would change and the sexual tension would rise. Guys walking around in all the men's floors. By my second visit I had already been fucked in a visit to a sauna in Toronto. So this time I would leave the door of my room open and had many guys come in and have sex. I would also visit the bar Eagle NYC which had a back room and was a lot of fun. Many times I would meet guys there and go to their apartments nearby. It was so much fun. Anyone has any experiences in the YMCA in the late 1970's?

Whether it's at the baths, at a sex club or sex party, most of the times there are more bottoms than tops. This makes it very competitive for bottoms and in general bottoms in their 20's and 30's end up getting most of the attention from the tops. This is what I observe now and it's what I've experienced in my life. When I was a young bottom the attention was sometimes excessive and even annoying if too persistent. I have also noticed that top guys are kept busy by eager bottoms with a hungry hole no matter the age of the top. At the baths there will always be some hole that will be happy to take the load of a 70 or even 80 year old guy, as long as he can get it hard and shoot a load. As you pass your 50's, although it could be earlier, (1) If are able to top, is it easier for you to get more action by being a top as you get older? (2) If you have been a bottom, have you lost appeal as you get older? I'll start by answering them: (1) Not much into topping but I know that if I decide to start topping I can always find a willing hole. (2) I personally didn't noticed much difference in getting attention from tops until my late 50's. In my 40's and 50's, although I was old by some standards, I didn't notice any real changes and I was getting all the sex I wanted. I kept myself in very good shape and was very masculine so I had no trouble hooking up with guys at the baths or online. I had tons of sex from mid 40's to my late 50's.

Bingo! This is exactly the situation I was initially describing: a horny bottom with a sloppy hole who needs to relieve himself before going home or back to work. Otherwise, bottoms will keep taking loads and stay at the baths longer than the available time. What do other bottoms do before going home if topping is not your thing? (1) Getting sucked (2) Jerk-off alone before going home (3) Jerk-off at home before going to sleep (4) Never shoot my load

I've been to Steamworks-Toronto and find it pretty good. But I've never been to a Cumunion event. What happens differently during those events? It's never been clear to me what it means Cumunion at Steamworks because I always play bareback there anyways.

I like staying at Spa Excess when I go to Toronto. Rooms are large enough to fit a smaller suitcase under the bed. My only problem is that once I'm inside I don't want to leave and end up spending most of my time inside the sauna and having sex. I once had to go to Toronto for a wedding so I had to leave. Got there by noon, had sex all afternoon, changed into formal dress and left for the wedding well bred. When I came back at around 3am the place was packed and I had to find my way into my room dressed in formal ware. I hardly slept that night and it was about 10am when I took my last load and went to sleep. I like staying at Spa Excess because I also go to Steamworks 2 blocks away.

This is one of the issues that keeps me from wanting to top. As a bottom my hole has been resilient and after more than 1,000 loads never caught anything of significance. The couple of times topping I remember some sort of urinary infection or discomfort.

I wouldn't say that CL posters who bareback deserve to get stealth just because of the anonymity that CL provides. And I would sy that careless barebacking is stupid is one is concerned with STDs. I think of stealthing as being facilitated by anonymous encounters because these kinds of hook-ups show a lack of concern with STD. Because requiring tops to fuck with a condom doesn't mean to just check if the condom is in place. That is careless form the part of a bottom who wants to play safe. The other interpretation is that it's all role playing and that maybe he's already poz but pretending otherwise. In anonymous situations nobody can separate truth from fiction because that's the whole point. In any event, I wish we could read more stories, hopefully real, of guys who have stealthed anon bottoms just because they were given the opportunity. I'm sure that most guys who have stealthed anon bottoms, not necessarily being poz, wouldn't feel comfortble telling the stories. Too bad, because they would be hot!

I wish they made poppers available in Canada...

I love the slutty action in the darkroom at the baths, but I usually become anxious that maybe one of those loads I took on the public sling or in the darkroom infected me. That feeling sometimes makes me more slutty because I think that what's the point of selecting the loads when one never knows. Another point. Is not testing a form of stealthing? Because one is hiding the possibility that the virus is present. A guy who doesn't test but has a lot of sex poses as much risk to an HIV-negative person as a poz guy, yet the guy who has not tested has the right to say "I'm HIV-negative" with no judgment. Fair?

Maybe I haven't made myself clear because I notice anger as if I were forcing bottoms to become tops or at least versatile. I am not suggesting that at all. A bottom should continue to be a bottom if that's what he wants. A bottom shoots cum and does the same as any top, which is what a versatile guy is. At the baths many total bottoms have to shoot their loads at some point, sometimes just to be able to go home, back to work, or falling asleep. I imagine that what most bottoms at the baths do after taking a few loads is to jerk off in their rooms, take a shower and leave the place. Other slutty bottoms are a "versatile-bottom" may take a few loads, then top another bottom and cream his hole, then back to taking loads. I have considered topping at the baths and/or darkrroms. I've been tempted of sticking my hard cock in a warm sloppy hole in a darkroom, done it a couple of times. It's definitely hot just because of the anonymity. But in my case, I don't feel comfortable sticking my cock in a manhole, afraid of finding shit or catching a urinary infection (I got those, not STDs). Here is another reason for not topping: I've noticed at the baths that guys from top to verstile-top fuck differently from the guy who is "more of a bottom". The bottom guys who fuck do it mainly to breed the hole and generally don't last very long. Top guys can pound a hole for hours! I was once fucked and bred in a sling at the baths by a bottom hot dude who'd been taking loads in his room. He got interested in what he saw in my room so he walked in. He started playing with my hole, got hard, stuck his cock in my hole a bit and started to like it, but then started to freak out and to tell me that he never tops that he's a total bottom. The idea of topping and seeding a hole seemed to contradict him being a total bottom. I managed to convince him to fuck me and he eventually bred my hole. It took some effort on my part to convince him to stick his cock back in and to give me his load which was accompanied by very hot moans and groans. He definitely enjoyed the breeding. After he composed himself and pulled out, he started to apologizing for cuming so fast and that he was a bottom and that hadn't fucked in years but that the hole in the underwear on the sling turned him on too much. It's true that many bottoms cum too quickly, but I don't care and I actually I love it. A total bottom can still fuck and breed other holes and continue feeling proud of being a bottom. Some bottoms don't want to cum because they stop feeling horny, but they don't realize that after a few minutes you're horny again and can continue getting pounded. That night I saw the bottom who had bred my hole getting fucked in his room. A bottom can benefit from taking a break and breed another hole in between his breeding sessions because after a few minutes he's energized. Take a few loads, take break, walk around looking for another hole, dump your load, take few minutes rest and back to taking loads, with even more energy. I hope bottoms stopped thinking that in order to be a true bottom one can never breed a hole. Any bottoms can explain why not breeding other than "I'm a total bottom"?

A case of a bottom who starts to breed holes after pozing. Of course, with consent. A similar case, a guy who gets turned on by the idea of breeding holes fter pozing. Other cases of guys who became very horny tops after converting. Some were probably total bottoms. I read about this fantasy so much, about feeling different and a top after pozing, but I can't believe that the truth is always told. I'm sure that many poz guys, even some reading this discussion, have at some point lied about their status and said they were HIV-neg when having sex with some stranger.

I don't like the music, I actually hate it.

"Are you ready for my load?" is a question most bareback bottoms get asked at some point or another in our breeding sessions. My most common response is "Yeah, and go deep when you shoot" just to make it clear that I am ready for his load. What do other bb bottoms respond when asked "Are you ready for my load?"

Sometimes bottoms are a bit too pushy with their need for seed and that makes tops feel pressured to shoot their loads when they are not ready for it because they want to fuck for a bit longer. A bottom moaning and groaning can be hot for the top but not when it's the repetitive moaning found in straight porn. I personally when I bottom don't like to do much moaning and groaning and instead prefer to talk dirty to the top. I listen to him and find out what he enjoys. I tell him how much I'm enjoying his cock and that my hole is now for his cock and eventually his load. I say it as a turn on but also as a clear signal that he is to dump his load inside. I also tell him to go deep when he shoots his load. But not much repetitive moaning and groaning.

I'm not sure why you need to dispose it after 2 days. If you described the situation a bit better it is more likely you get some better tips. Is it in a house? An apartment? Do you live alone? The best is having a gloryhole in a house where access to the gloryhole is very discrete, in a back lane, or side door into the garage. That way guys coming to get sucked don't go into the home itself. I had a private gloryhole for many years in my apartment and made very good use of it. There is a door into the bedrooms right next to the entry so guys would come in and I would wait behind the GH.

If you are enjoying being a top and bottoming "barely excites you", why don't you you just keep toping?