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From a bottom's perspective, when a top who's fucking me tells me "I'm close", a fresh load in my hole is only a few seconds away. Sure, a top can pull out for a few seconds to continue edging, but once a top says "I'm close", in my experience, there's no pulling out and sometimes just a soft tightening of my hole is enough for the top to go over the edge and start moaning and groaning before and while he unloads. But not all tops announce when there about to go over the edge.

I think that it is a mistake for men to consider sex the barometer of their relationship. For me sex is a personal aspect of oneself, too personal as to give away one's sexuality to others. If sex is the main part of a relationship between two men then soon that will wither and the relationship will be over.

Many bottoms have the idea that married guys, and straight guys in general, are more of a top, just from fucking women. But I think that many guys who fuck women like to bottom with men.

It doesn't surprise me to hear that married guys also look for sex with men. I think it has less to do with whether a guy likes men or women and more with the kind of sex men can get with other men. For a man to experience a walk-in dump and go situation with a woman is almost impossible. If a married guy wants an anonymous sexual experience it really has to be with another man because the game of sex between men has different rules than the hetero game.

This one is a year old but I find it very hot. I like it because you see how the top's face as he groans and moans while he dumps his load deep in the bottom's hole, but you also se the bottom's expression of pure heaven as he receives the load. http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=fzRO0-G786-#.VPSBbuEYF2A

not_sure_bb wrote: "How do the places police the top/bottom ? all the bottoms would say they were a top to get in free." I thought that I described the design that would make it work. First, it wouldn't be free just because a guy at the entrances says he's a top. Of course not. The place I envision has a regular entrance to access the rooms, showers, play area, darkroom, etc. There would another entrance, probably in the back close to the darkroom, gloryholes, etc. This entrance would lead to small partitions that once they are locked, the guy can only stand. No room to kneel down and try sucking cock. The holes from this back entry would probably be elevated, only for getting sucked, like a slurp ramp. There may be some same-level holes in case the guys using the back door want to fuck ass. The guy at the cash would have a buzzer to open the door after looking at the guy coming in for free. Once the guy enters he must follow the strict rules of going into a cubicle right away and no folling around amongst the guys would be allowed. Everything is monitored electronically and audio system to impose the rules, all these systems nowadays readily available and cheap. Anyone breaking the rules is banned from the free place. The rules are (1) Walk to assigned cubicle and lock it. (2) No attempting to kneedl down once in the cubicle (3) No talking or interacting with other guys in the free area, (4) Limits on time, that way these horny guys will deliver a load. It's important to strategically position the entrances, ideally one in the front and another in the back. I'll explain the idea again. Twenty years ago saunas were popular places to meet for sex and even if all a guy wanted was a quick blow-job, he had to pay to get in. Nowadays, with hook-up tools like Grindr if all a guy wants is a blow-job, why pay for the sauna? But sometimes even something like Grindr is not anonymous enough like the action you get in a sauna. When using the Interent guys have to exchange "stats" and that alone makes the interaction less anonymous. In a sauna, park, etc, no need to exchange stats. There is either chemistry or there's none, so time to move on. By implementing my idea guys who all they want is to get anonymously sucked or to fuck a nice anonymous ass, can now do it for free. Imagine a constant stream of guys who wanna get sucked or looking to fuck would do to bring in the paid crowds. A guy pays, walks to the back near the play area and looks for the cock he wants to suck or get fucked by. Ideally, the website should have the information of how many cubicles are being currently used. Because really, who cares how many paid guys are inside the sauna if there are five cocks waiting to get serviced? Actually, when the place is packed (paid guys) the back gloryholes would be pretty busy and you may have to wait for your turn. If anyone owns a sex club/sauna, contact me. One of my fantasies in life is to collaborate on a good sex club. I'm an Interior Decorator kind of guy but I would love to "decorate" sunas a sex clubs.

I'm as atheist as you can get, but I still find religions interesting. In Christianity cum is never mentioned but in Islam the rules on how to treat it are out there. The following question/answer can be found at: https://library.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=85710 Question What is the rule of semen? And how should we clean it if it falls on a carpet? Answer Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and may His blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions. The semen is pure according to the preponderent opinion of Muslim scholars. The evidence is the Hadith reported by Muslim that a person stayed in the house of Aisha (RAA) and in the morning began to wash his garment. Aisha (RAA) said: "In case you saw it (i.e. drop of semen), it would have served the purpose (of purifying the garment) if you had simply washed that spot; and in case you did not see it, it would have been enough to sprinkle water around it, for when I saw that on the garment of the Messenger of Allah ( sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention )), I simply scraped it off and he offered prayer, while putting that on" . So, if the semen was impure chafing it would not have been sufficient, it would have been obligatory to clean it with water like the blood the urine and the pre-seminal charges and secretions. In fact, scrubbing sperm is not obligatory as it is not impure. So, when it falls on the carpet it does not tarnish it. But if some urine or some sexual charges (not sperm) fall on the carpet, it should be removed and cleaned thoroughly with water. It takes the rule of the soil and is cleaned in the same way. al-Bukhari reported from Abu Hurairah (RAA) that "A Bedouin urinated in the mosque, and the people rushed to beat him. Allah's Apostle ordered them to leave him and pour a bucket or a tumbler (full) of water over the place where he has passed urine. The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) then said, "You have been sent to make things easy (for the people) and you have not been sent to make things difficult for them" . Originally the floor of the bathroom is pure unless some impurities fall on it. So, unless one is certain that some impurities have fallen on the floor of the bathroom, he should consider the bathroom floor pure. And, as long as, this servant cleans the bathroom then walks on the carpet then the carpet does not become impure unless she ascertains to have walked on same impurities. Then only the place of the impurity is cleaned. Allah knows best.

I'm a bit confused by "My Status" in BBrt. Does a Positive status mean Detectable? Or sometimes Undetectable guys put Positive in their status?

In terms of choosing a Motel, are those rooms with direct street access better for anonymous breeding? Can someone explain how does it work in hotels? Guys just walk up to the room or need to check with clerk? Do they first call the room before the guy walks up?

In general I prefer a verbal top, hear his breathing, moaning and finally the groaning. I do like to know when the top tells me he's going to shoot so I usually whisper to the top "Make sure you go deep when you shoot your load" But experiences with silent tops can be very hot too, especially in saunas and darkrooms. I find it so hot when I'm on a sling or fuck-bench at a sauna, and a guy starts fucking me and all of a sudden he pulls out and leaves without saying a word. I then check and I feel the cum dripping out of my hole. Big turn-on and in that case silent breeding is fine.

For me it starts with the top's noises: heavy breathing, moaning and sometimes dirty talk just before he shoots ("I'm close and getting ready to breed your hole"). Then the groans as he shoots inside and I feel the wetness in my hole as he keeps pumping it full of cum. For me feeling the top's cum is the icing on the cake.

If I were poz I would most likely hang around saunas and darkrooms, because I would like to have sex without having to discuss my health situation. Talking about HIV ruins the anonymous part of the encounter because the only talk I like is dirty talk before and during sex.

If I were in my 20's or 30's I would consider PrEP, but at my age when I already have different pains issues I don't feel comfortable taking PrEP worried of the side effects. In my case, after so many years of really hot sex, more sex is just more of the same. I also have a couple of dudes that I can sex with and who test.

I just came back from the clinic after testing HIV-negative, even after the 12 weeks window period. All other tests also negative (Syph, Clam, Gono, etc). I must say that it feels good because I don't have any interest in pozing. It's not my thing. Now, I know that if the test would have been HIV+ I would have found a way of adapting to the results, like having lots of sex in saunas, etc. Now I want to stay HIV-.

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=ucsOD-G896-#.VN8sWC4YF2B I like the way the top's prostate pulsates as he dumps his load in the bottom's hole

But can one ever fulfill the slutty side?

bbzh wrote: "Back to the idea at hand, I could envision a pump and dump station that was totally anonymous as part of a sauna where the tops didn't have to get undressed.However, I don't think they should be able to pick among the holes. It would be totally dark and you'd have 15 min max to dump your load. If you dumped it sooner, you got a partial refund. Bottoms should have to pay for every top they service with a cap on the amount of time they could occupy the station." jeff238 wrote: "I have been thinking about starting a new sauna/baths/whatever for some time..." I would love to start a sauna but a bit different from the traditional ones. I would maintain a webpage that is automatically updated with the number of people in the sauna at the moment. If I were to implement the free service for quick-tops then I would publish the number of quick-tops waiting to get serviced. I would also pay a lot of attention to location of the door because many guys feel embarrassed to be seen going in. jeff238 also wrote: "I think that bathhouses are in more demand BECAUSE of the internet." it's not what you see when you go to the saunas. Compared to what I used to see in the saunas in the 90's they are now mostly empty and/or most clients are older 50+. Older guys don't feel as comfortable with the Internet. Saunas in large cities may still be bring in the guys but I'm suro nothing like it used to be. In Chile guys go to saunas because lots of young guys live with their parents. ff-whole wrote: "You just pay for an entry fee and that's it..." Well, most guys who are looking for a quick blow-job or quick fuck/breed session don't want to have pay a fee. Instead of horny guys having to go home and jerk-off, they could use this free service. Ask for permission to enter, enter into the assigned cubicle, close the door, unzip and stick their cock through the hole while they stand. ff-whole: in Chile the 282 is good at night/early morning. And yes, the Metro es very good. But then again, in the dark one of the windows is not completely covered so the room doesn't end up being that dark. Too bad this sauna is not open at night.

Themes like "Dare to Bare" or Blackout events when most lights are off are good and attract lots of guys. My local sauna is busy for the Blackouts (last Thu of month) and hit-and-miss on the weekends. What I'm trying to capitalize on is on making better use of what I call quick-tops, horny guys who just wanna get off without major complication hopefully in an anonymous setting. Right now, for instance, if I young horny guy is leaving the bars and he is horny and just wants a wet mouth around his cock or a nice hole to fuck, he has to decide. Get on Grindr and find a hungry mouth or hole. Maybe, but must negotiate place. Going to a sauna where there's a gloryhole waiting for him would be the best, but does it make sense to spend $15 for a 10 mins blow job or fuck? A quick-top could very well be a guy who presents himself as a bottom but the idea of a free anon mouth or hole around his cock turns him on. That is why the way quick-tops have to behave is very structured to avoid play between them. They must be in their assigned cubicles at all times and willing to accept anyone to suck them off. The idea of separating the free from paying customers is for maintaining anonymity. None of the paying customers will know who they are sucking or getting fucked by. And the same goes for the quick-tops. Depending on whether or not quick-tops are waiting to get in, there's a time limit for quick-tops to get sucked or for fucking. On entry to the establishment paying customers can ask the clerk for the number of quick-tops stationed in the back cubicles. Maybe the clerk will say No-Vacancy which would mean a few cocks to suck or get fucked by. Or maybe some nights there will a steady stream of quick-tops going by which would mean unlimited number of cocks to suck.

I'm always very critical about the ambience in saunas and sex clubs. When I go into one I look for all the changes that can be made to improve the chances for guys to have fun. This translates into owners making more money. One of the local saunas has one double room with a sling in it and no public sling. Guys had access to the sling but only if the guy renting that double room agrees to leave the door of the room open. If no one was renting the sling room, the sling was unused. So I wrote to the owner/manager of the sauna and suggested a few simple changes. One my suggestions was that the sling room remain open for public use unless someone wanted to rent it. It took almost 2 years until I read in Squirt that now the sling was available for play to anyone. A simple change added a lot of value to the place. Now someone renting a locker can jump on this temporary-public sling and give other guys a nice hole to fuck. My most common issue with saunas and sex clubs is the lighting. Most places don't provide adequate dark area for guys who like anon sex in dark rooms. A sauna in Montreal has 2 or 3 public slings but all in places with lots of light. The usual explanation I get is that guys like to see who they fuck and who fucks them. I say maybe some but there are others who prefer very anon scenes, hopefully without even seeing who fucks them or who they fuck. If a sauna has 2 or 3 public slings put one sling in a place with light, another a bit darker, and the third one in a VERY DARK place, maybe with some blacklight around. In Santiago, Chile, there is the sauna 282 which is very crowded on weekends. They have made absolutely no improvements to the facilities other than installing more lockers and some "bags" where you put your clothes in when lockers are sold out. Past 3am it's packed with mostly young guys drunk and horny after the bars, but most guys are stuffed in a dark hallway on 2nd and 3rd floors. There is a semi dark room but not good enough that also has a big mattress which ends up full of guys sleeping. Next to the dark room there is an old Jacuzzi room which now doesn't work. I would close the entrance to the Jacuzzi room and open the entrance from the dark room. That way provide a very dark area for guys ho like it dark and anon. Because of the Internet saunas and sex clubs are fighting to stay afloat. But saunas still offer something special, a more anon action. In a sauna there's no need to discuss stats, including age. Just look at each other and go for it. How to improve them? If I were involvement in the design of a sauna or sex club I would device a system where "quick-tops" can get serviced for free. A quick-top is a horny guy (doesn't have to be a total top) who wants to quickly get off because he doesn't have the time or because he likes it anon. Most guys in a quick-top mood are not willing to pay $10 for a 10 minute anon blow-job. But if there was a way for a quick-top to get serviced anon and for free, I'm sure most would gladly accept the offer. But how can this work? I'm thinking about the layout of my local sauna which is in a basement and with two entrances. The back entrance which is close to the gloryhole/dark area, is now a service and emergency entrance. Paying customers would come in through the front as they do now. The back area would have be remodelled. The back entrance would have access to a hallway, a small bathroom to clean up, and a set of small cubicles where once the door is closed the guy must be standing up forced to be a top. This area would be monitored by the cashier to make sure rules are followed: no talk, one at a time in the hallway and playing among quick-tops prohibited. Right now if a guy wants quick no nonsense service during lunch or after work, he must pay. Few guys will pay for a 10 minute blow job or breeding session. If the service is free horny guys wouldn't mind a quick service, even a 5 minute blow job. After all it's free. This would probably increase the number of paying customers looking forward to sucking anon cock or getting fucked anon. I know it's a crazy ideas but I find that saunas and sex clubs have to be more creative in the services they offer and that way offset the Internet.

I know that many bottoms "are done" after they shoot their loads. When a bottom is hogging a fuck-bench or a good gloryhole I try to make them shoot their loads in order to free the fuck-bench or gloryhole. It works. At the sauna GI-Joe in Montreal there's a sling in the basement. Last time I was there a bottom was hogging the sling so while a top was fucking him, I made the bottom cum. As soon as he shot his load he pushed away the top, got off the sling and left. I took over the sling and took the top's load. Sometimes a certain gloryhole is better than the others with more connecting holes. At the gloryhole area in my local sauna there was a bottom hogging the best GH and I wanted it. I did my best to make him cum from the neighboring gloryhole. As soon as he shot I heard him pick up his room/locker keys so I quickly took over the best GH in the place. Yeah, many bottoms need a break after they shoot.

I think that most bottoms prefer not to cum while being fucked even those bottoms who can continue getting their hole pounded. I prefer to focus on the top. If I cum while getting fucked for a few seconds I have to focus on myself too much so I prefer to avoid shooting my load while I'm getting fucked. I like to focus so much on the top, even while watching porn. It annoys me when in porn I hear a screaming bottom because it masks all the noises coming from the top while he plows the hole. I prefer to talk dirty to the top fucking me and keep the moans to a minimum.

I'm planning a trip to Palm Springs myself so I've been looking at CCBC's website. I'm interested in one of the rooms facing The Walk and with hooks for a sling. I called them and they do have a few small rooms facing The Walk and with hooks for a sling. Does anybody have any experience staying at CCBC and trying The Walk?

I find that hook-up sites/Apps like Grindr or Craigslist are better for setting up more impersonal adds than sites like BarebackRT where you have to make a more permanent profile. If I were to setup a take-all-loads scenario in a Hote/Motel I would use Craigslist. If I'm travelling I would use Grindr. On the other hand if I were a poz guy wanting to get off and who's looking for a pump-n-dump situation avoiding the HIV questions, Craigslist would be a good place.

I don't have enough sex nowadays as to justify taking PReP every day. But I spent a month in Chile, South America, where I had a fair amount of sex. Unlike Canada where most guys have a place to get together for sex, in South America many times guys live with their extended family and need a place to go for sex: The saunas! Friday nights and Saturday nights one of the saunas is absolutely packed with horny guys. I rarely see a packed sauna in Canada these days. But also online using Grindr one can get a lot of action if one has a place. I had so it was great. But now I'm back on the waiting game. Waiting for the 12 weeks of my last trip to the sauna so I can test for HIV. Although I didn't get a fuck flu, testing positive would not be a total surprise. And this is where I get a glimpse of guys who wanna convert. What would I do and how would I react if I tested poz? I'd like to think that I would be in the mood for lots of raunchy sex once I know I'm poz. Then maybe being a top would be a turn-on, who knows.

I agree with MaxC, which means that I disagree with the view that all those who bareback, especially bottoms, are bug chasers. Wanting to breed and to be bred have been part of the man-to-man sexual repertoire for centuries. Barebacking has nothing to do with wanting HIV.