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Could it be something to do with cost? I can’t recall exactly how much it was, but when I saw the price of a ticket for the SF Horesemarket event, I remember thinking it seemed very expensive. The cost of entry to many events and/or sex venues in Berlin and Spain is rather low: €10-15 maybe, and that might get you a free drink (or even two if it’s happy hour)…

It’s largely dance-oriented, but it does have a large and thriving darkroom once it gets going.

Well, Suella has at most 1 year left in office- and for the record, there are plenty of right-wing politicians in other European countries … not sure why the UK always seems to get a special mention in that regard. Is there still some residual resentment over Brexit at play here? But let’s try to keep politics out of this thread. It’s certainly true that the London scene is not what it once was: a toxic combination of runaway property prices and the ubiquitous apps have taken their toll. I’m hoping things have turned a corner: a number of new party night such as “Roast” have cropped up in the last couple of years, and these seem to be appealing to a younger crowd. Where there’s youth, there’s hope…

I‘m heading to Torremolinos for 4 nights next week just to see what it’s like- I haven’t got great expectations as it’s out of season. But it’s stupidly cheap and it seems that most of the bars and clubs are still open, so I’m hoping to get something at least. Who knows? I might be the only bottom in a sea of horny tops on a day trip from Malaga… one can but dream 😂

I was in a monogamous relationship for the best part of 25 years, so didn’t embrace my cumdump self until my late 40’s. I’ve been trying to make up for all those lost years ever since, and haven’t noticed my sex drive tailing off so far. In some ways I hope it does- there are other things in life I’d like to devote a little more time to. But while guys still find me fuckable, I’m going to continue taking as much cock as I can.

Another advantage of Berlin is that it tends to be cheaper than a lot of European capitals/cities… you get more bang for your buck, quite literally!

Berlin. Don’t bother with London- it’s okay if you live there, but sex-wise it’s not worth the trip if you live outside the UK. Haven’t been to Barcelona, but I imagine that is pretty good too.

Eastbourne, of course! 🤣

Sounds like you are quite a fan, @rawfuckr! It’s nice to hear some positive feedback about Torrie- I tend to have a soft spot for underrated, unfashionable places (I used to live in New Jersey ffs), and having just read your post about the decline of Sitges, maybe Torrie’s time has finally come! How would you rate it compared with GC?

Thanks for your detailed reply, @rawfuckr- details are what it’s all about! To what extent do things shut down for the winter? From their websites, it seems like a lot of bars stay open, but reduce their hours or only open at weekends. If I go, it would probably be the first weekend in November: last year they were promoting a ‘winter pride’ event on that weekend, but there’s no mention of it this year…

Given the choice between a bathhouse and a cruise bar/club, I’ll almost always choose the latter. I’m not sure why, I just prefer the vibe. I often find bathhouses somewhat depressing, and guys generally seem pickier, and less up for play- and certainly less up for group play. All that disappearing into private cubicles… it seems somehow exclusionary. Perhaps in the past that was one of the strengths of bathhouses: they offered a private place to meet and play. Whereas now, guys who want a private encounter just use the apps to meet and then do the deed itself at home- no need for the bathhouse. On the other hand cruise bars and clubs offer little in the way of privacy and are much more aligned with those who enjoy group play or multiple partners in quick succession. Perhaps that’s why they are surviving and even thriving while bathhouses are not. The apps are generally not going to enable you to fuck or get fucked by 30 guys in the space of a couple of hours, whereas cruise bars and clubs give you that opportunity. Presumably they are also cheaper and easier to run, and therefore a lot more profitable. It says a lot that somewhere like Maspalomas has dozens of bars and clubs, but not one single bathhouse. Even in Berlin, it’s all about the bars these days.

Haha- we’ll, as a pasty European myself, I’ll try not to take offence 😂 But to be fair, the same could be said for Maspalomas, which is similarly ‘unscenic’ and full of European tourists of all sorts. Doesn’t stop it being a great gay hotspot, though! Torrie has always had an image problem, and asking around, I’m getting mixed reports. I’m intrigued, and think I might just have to go there and find out for myself. Not much to lose: flights and 3 nights accom for about £200… what could possibly go wrong?

Does Montreal still have a healthy bathhouse scene? Obviously it’s not USA, but I still view it as kind of East Coast. I’ve escaped to Montreal a couple of times while visiting friends in New York, purely to take advantage of its cruise clubs and saunas, now that NY no longer offers such amenities to its visitors 😩

Anyone got any experience of Torremolinos? It seems to be “up and coming” as a gay destination, and I’m thinking of spending a dirty weekend there. So much cheaper and easier to get to than Gran Canaria, with cheaper accommodation once there, too…

Ha- it’s certainly possible: I definitely recall being involved in something like that at Reds, but being the bottom, it’s often hard to know exactly what is going on and who is doing what! Anyway, I will be in Maspalomas as usual for a month or so in Jan/Feb, so if you’re around, I’m definitely up for recreating that scenario!

I enjoy it, but like so many others have said on here, I’m unable to give as good head as I would l like. It doesn’t help when the top I am sucking makes very little or no allowance for the fact that I’ve got another cock pounding my arse: very often he’s standing/kneeling just a little bit too far away, and seems unaware that I’m really not in a great position to lean forward to get him all the way in my throat. Much better if he just grabs my head forcefully and pushes himself all the way down. This also steadies my whole body, and often allows the top who’s fucking me from behind to pound even harder. If the top I’m sucking doesn’t take charge and make it easier for me, I’ll usually give up on that cock and return my full attention to the one that’s fucking me.

Such good advice! As a 50+ bottom recently back from Berlin, I think you’ve got it spot on!

As you live in London, I was going to suggest somewhere like the Vault or SBN, but I think that would be a little bit too much like jumping in the deep end. Why don’t you try a sauna such as Sweatbox or Pleasuredrome? It’s easier to take things at your own pace in a sauna than in a sex club/cruise bar, and build up to what you feel comfortable with. Of course, you could just use Grindr or one of the other apps and arrange a one-to-one: that’s probably where most guys looking for extra-curricular sex these days…

Ah- that’s why Prinzknecht was closed on Saturday… I did wonder! Between the Lab, Horsefair, Biohazard and Pig parties, I didn’t have much time to cruise the backrooms of the bars in Schoenberg- and as it was so warm, I wanted to try out the table-tennis tables in the Tiergarten too. But I did have a couple of reasonable sessions in the Bull, and yes, downstairs at the Prinzknecht on Sunday night wasn’t bad at all- who knows? Maybe we ‘met’ 🤣 My first time at Folsom- I loved it, but obviously can’t compare it to previous years. Some of my friends were a little disappointed with the lack of action at the street fair, but I thought it was fun anyway.

Greenhouse sauna in Darlaston Boltz club in city centre

Yes, there are- generally they seem to be referred to as “swingers’ clubs”, which seems to make them more acceptable. The basement floor of the CITA centre in Gran Canaria is full of them. But it seems that the number of males attending far outweighs the number of females, to the point where entrance is usually free to women, while the men have to pay. I think that says quite a lot.

It’s testosterone. Same thing as, “What makes men more violent than women?”. Of course there are exceptions and some women are more slutty than some men, just as some women are more violent than some men. But the idea that if you removed all societal expectations then women would be as promiscuous as men in general terms is sheer nonsense.

Lube is provided in little packets along with condoms at the start of the event, but the bottoms tend to grab it all so it runs out fast. The stallions won’t be of any help in this regard: they expect bottoms to do everything lol. Why not just being your own in a small bottle and carry it in your socks, like a lot of bottoms do? If you need a lot, there is nothing to stop you bringing a larger bottle and just holding onto it. As I say, your hands are not tied, so you can always reach round and re-lube yourself as required. I didn’t see any white hoods at all- just red. That said, at least a couple of tops who fucked me wore condoms, so it’s not a 100 percent raw event. I’m not aware of any mares leaving because of an over-aggressive top. But some of the stallions do fuck rough, so you need to be prepared for this. In the heat of the moment, a lot of them get carried away, and will plunge in balls deep with one thrust- my feeling is that they expect the mares to be able to take this. If you are not used to this kind of fucking, I would suggest this might not be the right event for you. Or at the very least, you might need to use a dildo to loosen yourself up before you go.

I’m stuck at Berlin airport waiting for a delayed flight back to London, so now is as good a time as any, I suppose. PIG party was the best sex party I’ve ever been to. I nearly didn’t bother, as it’s rather expensive (€39) and I had not bought an online ticket in advance, thinking I wouldn’t have the energy after Horsefair. But all those loads must have given me the boost I needed, and as PIG was only a 15-minute walk away from where Horsefair was being held, I decided to just go and have a look to see how long the queue was. Well, as suspected, the queue was indeed very long, but once the doors opened at 11:00pm, it started moving very quickly. That in itself was one of the best things about PIG- it is very well run. I only had to wait outside for about 15 minutes, and once inside there were no queues anywhere, whether checking your bag or buying a drink. Given there were apparently about 2,500 guys attending, this is quite a feat and a good example of German efficiency! For drinks, you just buy tokens in the reception area, and then exchange these for what you want at the various bars and drink stations around the club (and there are lots of them). There were helpful staff everywhere, which is why I guess it all worked so smoothly, and one of the reasons you pay €39. The venue itself is amazing. It’s an old mint (as in money manufacturing plant) and it’s huge. It’s spread out over 2 floors. On the first (ground) floor is the reception, coat check, bars, dance space, VIP area and a large outside area which functions as a sort of beer garden, which was great given it was a hot night. And in the basement are the play areas, which is really what everyone is interested in. It’s very hard to describe: it’s a true maze, with corridors, rooms, dead ends, more bars, more dance spaces, and random staircases leading nowhere- it’s very easy to get lost and I did several times. And hoards of men everywhere, representing every fetish you can think of, from naked to full leather and everything in between. Sex is happening all over, but seems to be divided somewhat into rooms/zones. There’s a fisting zone, a piss zone, a cumdump zone (where I naturally gravitated to), an oral zone, sling rooms, shower rooms, odd rooms with random bits of stuff in- whatever you can think of, it was there somewhere. Of course, it’s not just sex- there are loads of guys standing round drinking, socializing, dancing- but it’s all kind of mixed up together, which is great. I actually found the experience quite trippy at some points. The sheer size of it and the random layout, the slightly creepy ‘abandoned factory’ vibe coupled with some weird lighting effects and strange artworks- there’s a real Alice In Wonderland feeling to it. For me, it’s the ultimate Berlin experience, and encapsulates everything that Berlin is known for. Honestly @tomzefis, if you actually live in Berlin, you should definitely go next time it’s on. The Lab is great too, but PIG is on a whole different level.

Yes, Prinzknecht is still there and thriving- seems to be the at the very heart of all things Folsom. It was absolutely packed last night for the final blast. Good darkroom too in the basement. Rude staff, though- but that’s par for the course at most Berlin establishments… I’ve learnt not to take it personally 🤣