Spunkinmyarse

This is why I generally prefer to get gangbanged in a cruise bar or a sauna, rather than in a private setting. As a bottom, there is a lot less pressure: if something goes wrong or you’ve simply had enough, you can stop for a break at any time, and the tops won’t be disappointed: there are always plenty of other holes around to fuck. Of course, the trade-off is that a younger, fitter, hotter cumdump might set up shop right next to you and end up stealing all the loads… at least in a private setting, you can pretty much guarantee that every drop of sperm is going to end up inside you one way or another.

This is a timely thread for me. I’ll be over in New York in April, but will only have one night free (ie: without pesky friends) to indulge my cumdump desires. I was thinking of booking a night at the Paul, as it always seems to come up in convos about NYC cumdump sessions, but looking at the price, I’m not sure I want to risk spending $300-$400 on what might turn out to be a disappointing evening. Even if I got 6 loads, that would work out at over $50 per load, which strikes me as rather poor value. Any other suggestions would be very helpful. I have to say I have a soft spot for New Jersey and its men: I lived/worked there for a spell back in the 90’s. However, as @NastyRawBottompoints out, getting to a suitable motel there without private transport would be difficult- but if anyone knows one accessible by public transport, let me know!

Having just spent a month there, @RawUK, I’m not sure I’d really want to spend my whole time there, in retirement or otherwise. Don’t get me wrong- I loved it and had a great time, and could have stayed somewhat longer. But when all is said and done, it is relatively small island in the middle of the ocean, without a great deal to offer apart from the obvious. I think for me, at least, the 3-month winter break there is a better plan, and that’s what I’ll be working towards. After all, England may have its faults, but I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else when spring shows up!

Blimey- how things on Hampstead Heath must have changed since then! It’s now a designated PSE (‘Public Sex Environment’), and the police have very specific guidance on how to manage such areas. The general rule is that sexual acts are tolerated and not considered criminal, as long as the participants make an effort to cause no offence to others. In practice, this means finding somewhere to do it out of sight and preferably after dark: Hampstead Heath is a much loved park and popular with families during the day, but at night it’s ours. It seems a sensible way to manage a shared public space on a crowded island like ours, and I’m quite happy to keep my pants on until after dark. But it amazes me and annoys me how many guys continue to fuck there during daylight hours, which is bound to cause complaints and upset the delicate status quo that has finally been achieved.

We get so many posts on here talking about an intention to go to such-and-such a place, or a plan to attend this-or-that event… but very few subsequent posts describing what it was actually like. Are guys too shy to share their experiences? Are is it just a question of can’t-be-bothered? It’s a shame- coz shared info benefits us all.

Half-way through my month-long trip to GC, and can safely say have refamiliarized myself with the cruise bar scene out here. Although it’s quite busy here during the winter season with guys seeking to escape the north European winter, it’s nothing like it is during peak season events like Pride or Fetish Week, apparently. Fri/Sat nights are unsurprisingly the busiest, mid-week is steady, Sunday is dead. Note to self: on future trips, fly home on a Sunday- you ain’t missing anything here. Safe to say, Strong Construction (€10 entry: 1 free drink) continues to reign supreme: always busy, and especially so on Friday/Saturday nights when a lot of Spanish guys from Las Palmas show up for the weekend. Still my favourite, simply for the sheer sleaze of the place. No dress code, so men in all states of dress and undress… chatting, drinking, smoking, and of course having sex- all over the place. It’s manic. The back areas can get very crowded: the fuck benches are very popular with head down arse up cumdumps such as myself. Multiple fucks are guaranteed, getting loads is more haphazard- seems to be more about being in the right place at the right time (ie: when a top finally needs to unload) more than anything else. I’ve had some very good times at Reds, and some less so. They open earlier than all the others, at 8:00pm rather than the usual 10:00pm (Construction is 9:00). This is useful if you’re English like me, and used to getting things started early in the evening, rather than hanging around endlessly waiting for things to get going. Happy hour from 8:00-9:00, which means you get 2 free drinks for your €10 entry instead of the standard 1, which is handy when you’re watching your pennies. On a good night you can expect perhaps 40-60 guys, less mid-week. Zoo is similar to Reds- similar style, similar number of guys. They don’t open till 10:00, but always offer 2 long drinks for the €10 entry. What marks Zoo out is the staff- very funny, very chatty, very friendly- and they set the tone for the general atmosphere of the place. Both Zoo and Reds offer the opportunity to circulate with relative ease, make eye contact, and follow up with a connection. Strong Construction doesn’t: it’s just too busy. It’s more grab a cock or arse as it passes and see if you can find fuck space. Factory (the new kid on the block) seems underused and underrated. Shame, because it’s a nice-looking bar. Somewhat cheaper than the rest at €8 entry. Still, there’s a good fuck bed where most of the action seems to take place. Noxon talks a good talk, but I’ve yet to really enjoy myself there. Perhaps because I’ve only been on ‘off’ nights (eg: Sunday) there have only been a handful of guys there. I understand that Tuesday is very popular with guys who are into piss. Often offers all-you-can-drink beer with your entry fee, presumably to aid the piss scene it’s famous for. Haven’t bothered with Bunker yet this time, after a couple of miserable evenings there last year. I have seen guys queueing outside a couple of times (weekends), so will aim to try it out again at least once before I leave. I just hope they’ve finally managed to get rid of the overriding stink of sewage in the basement area… I don’t really count Box and Tom’s as cruise bars- they are Berlin-style bars with back room cruising areas, that no-one seems to use. Still, they don’t charge entry fees, so are good places to hang out for a drink and to be sociable. Cruise is the only one I have never been to: I’ll endeavour to correct that oversight soon!

By accident, I happened to be out in GC last year for bears’ week too, or at least for the start of it. My (perhaps controversial) observation was that as a group, bears are much more interested in socializing than in having sex. There was a distinct change in the atmosphere of the bars when the bears arrived: much more standing around chatting and drinking in the bar area, and a lot less diving into the flesh pits at the back. Same in the hotel (Axel Beach)- less cruising, more eating, drinking and socializing with friends. I’ve also noticed as a general rule that applies to all tribes of gay men that guys are a lot less inclined to play as hard and dirty in front of their friends as they might do when they are solo. I suppose it might be the fear of being judged. So many times I see guys laughing and chatting with their friends by the bar, while occasionally making furtive glances sideways into the dark room, but not daring to enter and reveal their inner slut to their friends. I’m guessing that a combination of the above might have put a bit of a dampener on the usual depravity of the GC back rooms when you were there last year, @rawfuckr. Of course, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with putting sex on the back burner while you have fun with your friends, but as I’ve often said, a good social life plays havoc with your sex life.

From personal experience, I can tell you that doxycycline PEP really isn’t very effective against gonorrhea, so I wouldn’t go out of your way at to procure some just for that. Although it does seem very useful at preventing syphilis and chlamydia infections, gonnorhea is always the one that gets through. Three months seems like an adequate testing interval even for a cumdump, and unless you have symptoms of course, I really can’t see the point testing more frequently. Sure, it means occasionally you might be carrying around gonno in your arse for longer than you’d like, but you probably won’t even notice. Does that make you a high risk fuck? Yes, it does. Which is why I tend to limit my play to other players who know the risks involved in our particular lifestyle, and avoid guys on hook-up apps who might be married or only have sex once in a while- I really don’t want to pass something on to someone in that kind of situation. You should take comfort from the fact that you have had so few infections overs such a long period of time- it’s a rarer occurrence than many people think. Recently I went over 18 months without anything at all, and I must have been fucked by literally hundred of guys in that time, in saunas, bars and sex clubs all over the place. Generally I just accept that picking up an infection here or there just comes with the territory: it’s annoying, but it’s no longer a big deal.

Hmmm… sounds like I should learn to top 🤔

Apparently, they don’t advertise “private parties” on their website. I’m guessing the breed and seed event on the 20th is a private party too.

Pre-pandemic, Zoo seemed to be the bar for a while, much like Strong Construction is today. These blackout Thursdays are new: I’ll definitely try one out when I’m in GC in a couple of weeks time. Have you had a chance to try the Factory again recently, @Aixactif? I’ve heard some good things about it, but it doesn’t seem to be that popular for some reason. Noxon also appears to be enjoying the spotlight a bit at the moment- particularly on the fetish side of things…

Can’t stress this enough- I can attest from first-hand experience how both an oral bottom AND a total top can get it from bj’s alone!

Ha- I think there are plenty of ‘total tops’ who might disagree with you on this one… that’s certainly been my experience, anyway. And as far as any future vaccine is concerned, one thing we’ve all learned in recent years (what with COVID, monkeypox, etc.) is that no vaccine provides 100 percent protection. Truth is, I’d be surprised if they come up with one that is more effective at preventing HIV infection than is currently the case with PrEP, so no need to wait till 2030…

From what I remember (I’m not a big sauna go-er), of all the saunas in London, Sweatbox does attract the youngest crowd. That’s not to say older guys aren’t welcome or wouldn’t fit in, but just be prepared for a certain degree of stand-offishness that often accompanies youth in such settings.

If you’ve only time for one, I would do Vault139, though as @NicX24 says, it depends on the day (Monday and Thursday naked nights are best). However, if you’ve got time and want to make a night of it, I would consider doing Vault AND Sweatbox- they’re walking distance from each other, but offer quite different experiences. Both offer ‘pass outs’ (albeit with restrictions), so depending on the timing, you can go from one to the other and back again if you feel like it.

No shower facilities, no douching facilities- it’s basically just a bar with cruising areas and a few gh cubicles

Syphilis is very easily treated in its early stages, and is no big deal- a dose of penicillin injected into each buttock will do the trick… it will hurt, but it’s bearable. Apart from residual pain/stiffness at the injection site for a day or two, side effects will depend on how you react to penicillin, but I think they’re generally quite rare. I’ve never had any. It is harder to treat in its later stages, so it depends how long you’ve had it- I’m not an expert, but I think anything less than 2 years is considered ‘early’. Even so, treatment remains the same (penicillin)- you would just need more of it. When I was diagnosed with it, they didn’t know how long I’d had it for, as it was the first time I’d ever been screened for it. So they gave me a second double dose of penicillin a week after the first, and then took blood samples every month for 3 months to make sure it had cleared… That was a bit of a pain, tbh, but not the end of the world.

I’ve always thought that Gran Canaria is to Europe what Ft. Lauderdale and Palm Springs are to North America. The climate is pleasant all year round, it’s totally set up for tourists (it is part of Spain, after all, and the Spanish are very good at the whole tourist thing), and you get to meet guys from literally every corner of Europe. It’s true that you don’t come across many Americans there, and that’s understandable as they have their own gay meccas, but if anyone from the US is planning a European sexcation, I would certainly recommend adding it to their itinerary!

Ha- that’s not to say that my interaction with any of the staff that seem to work at these places was ever pleasant, though. By and large, I found the service I encountered across all sectors in Berlin was generally rude and arrogant- and that’s coming from someone who lives in London and can speak German!

I was in Berlin this past weekend and didn’t come across any overt ageism or discrimination based on body type. Total mix of guys at Fickstutenmarkt: I think things must have changed since your were there, @stef85hki, as there were plenty of mares in the 40+ age bracket. Of course, I couldn’t see what the stallions looked like, but I know that one BZ member was there as a top, so maybe he’ll leave a comment… Seemed to me that the guys in Berlin were pretty much the same as everywhere else- no better, no worse. Plenty of poser “I’m to beautiful to have sex with anyone” types, especially at Boiler sauna, but also at Lab.Oratory to a certain extent- but you get those in every big city. On the other hand, there were plenty of hot up-for-it guys, particularly at some of the less show-off type venues like Tom’s bar and the Bull.

Short answer: Vault139, SBN, Bunker… and Hampstead Heath Hardon and other occasional parties/club nights can also be good I see you’re new on this site: if you wade through the posts in this subforum you’ll find out pretty much everything you need to know about the London bb scene

Ah- so glad I’ve joined the club… I’ve been downvoted by @dmvnewbietoo! @dmvnewbie, would you mind explaining your reasoning behind all these downvotes? Many contributors in this thread have gone to the effort of setting out their opinions thoughtfully and at length, including myself. Your own contribution amounts to 6 words. It’s obviously a subject you feel very strongly about, but you need to justify all those downvotes with more than just that. We wait with bated breath, so that we too may be given the right to reply to your own arguments on the matter.

As a seasoned bare backer, I get wary as soon as someone asks me anything about my sexual health. I do everything I can to mitigate the risks to my own well-being, and in general I only want to play with others who do the same. It took me a long time to come to terms with the risks of being a cumdump, and I’m not really comfortable having sex with guys who haven’t reached that place yet. Not because I view them as inferior in any way, but because at any given point in time, I absolutely cannot guarantee they won’t catch something from me. If they’re asking me the question “Clean?” or “Are you STD free?”, it simply shows that they don’t really have a proper understanding of how STD’s work, and that basically no-one who has bareback sex more than once every 6 months or so can possibly answer that question with 100 percent accuracy. The only truthful answer is “I don’t know”, which is not what they want to hear… and to them, it just sounds like you don’t bother to take proper care of yourself. I don’t want them to think that of me, but neither do I feel like I have a responsibility to educate them further in the matter- so generally I just cease to engage. Also, I just don’t want it on my back if they do catch something from me, because I was in that place once and for most people their first STD is traumatic. Whereas if I give something to another player, it’s just a question of “Hey-ho, occupational hazard, etc” and we both just get on with our lives.

Yes, I would recommend Northwich sauna. I’ve only been a couple of times, and not to a Cumunion there, but it’s a good sauna. It’s vast, biggest sauna by far in the UK- so it has all kinds of facilities. But the downside of that is that even if there are a lot of guys in there, it can feel kind of empty as everyone is so spread out. Wandering the endless corridors sometimes feels a bit like being stuck in the Poseidon Adventure to me. As far as I understand, Cumunion is generally well-attended there, better than other UK saunas, at least (it’s generally not a big thing in the UK, since the London edition closed). Are you going for Manchester Pride? If so, it will certainly be busy. It is stuck in the middle of nowhere, though. Most guys drive, but you can take a train to Northwich station and a taxi (or longish walk) from there. If you’re considering hiring a car, Birmingham is quite close to Manchester (at least by Australian standards), and there is another good sauna there called the Greenhouse at Darlaston. Also, check out what parties are going on in Brum at the time: Boltz hosts great nights like XXL from time to time, and Birmingham Pride at the end of Eptwmber is also good.

I can tell you for sure there is nowhere in the UK with a set up like this. Sadly, Manchester has no real cruise bars at all. London has a couple, but not with this kind of thing. I’m currently in Berlin, and have spent the last two nights at the Lab.Oratory, which has 3 fuck boxes similar to this, though not set up in a row. However, they seem rather underused, and don’t appear to be a big ‘thing’ there- though that might be different during Folsom. I think Amsterdam is probably your best bet- high speed trains link Berlin and Amsterdam, so you might want to consider that instead of booking additional flights. You could even take the Eurostar from London direct to Amsterdam, and carry on to Berlin from there.