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Well, thanks for the response. I suppose I've been called an optimist exponentially more times than a pessimist. Not that it means much, but - on behalf of all those fellow-Tops who can't see past the parameters of their own Lusts, I can only apologize. After all, where would guys like me be without guys like you .... up a creek, not a Hole - that's where.

Something odd happened to me too. Usually, I look in the "notifications", and scroll through those, watching for replies from respondents I respect. One was called something like "4th of July", and when I clicked on it, a large window opened right up saying I didn't have permission to look at that topic. There was a chatbox as well, inviting me to respond. So I did, and asked why it was that I was not allowed to read anything in that thread. The answer came back "I don't know - I'd have to see a url to know". Every other time I've had a question, I send a message to one of the moderators via the personal messages (under the "other" heading, very top of the home page), and received a message back with an answer. Was that window I received legit ???

Does all of this mean no guys fucking each other? Everything is through the ether? No actual Breeding going on, in-the-flesh?

Well, when I make a misstep, then I have to apologize for it. I think every guy has the right to say what he thinks, if perhaps a bit more kid-glovish than I sometimes do. To me, that's the whole point of BZ. Frankly, I think you're a very bright man, and I always enjoy reading your thoughts. I also suspect that we come from fairly similar backgrounds, and both of us made it through the cultural mess to our sexual freedom. If that's anywhere near the truth, then I suppose I may be a Top version of you - pretty cool, huh? There was a pic (headshot) somewhere on here, and I thought geez - we look a lot alike. We probably have a lot more in common than not. Thanks for the gracious reply.

I can't say I know anything about "telegram"; this is the first I've heard of it. But I can say Thank You to rawTOP for defending his site against devolving into such a misery-laden state. BZ is - at least for me - a joyful website, where men who love Life, love living their lives on their terms, love sharing their magnificent obsessions with like-minded men can share thoughts, resources, impressions, perceptions - share all of it with our peers. It's just a complete sadness when guys can't figure out a way forward.

I agree. This is a rather common solution to a simple issue. Merely covering a bottom's Cock is clear, and as much a statement as is needed. I suppose it wouldn't actually prevent some guy from trying to get to the bottom's Cock, like a chastity device would, but - jeez - how much does it take to signal one's interest/dis-interest? A bottom in a jock tells the whole story, and at one glance.

I'm sorry you took that personally. I know you and I see some things differently, and that's fine. To each their own, right? It was the lack of ability by some to use the written word that I was commenting on, and probably a bit too sarcastically. Your posts / replies are always cogent, well-reasoned, and well composed. Please accept my apologies.

I tried DaddyHunt a while ago .... but, far too many guys like me, and very few guys looking for one. Ditched it.

Well, damn .... but - thanks, tighthole64 - for the update.

btw ..... phones are prohibited at Slammer in Ft. L. I think it has more to do with drug deals than pics being taken of the carryings on. Reportedly (and I don't know this), there are employees milling around that will kick you out if they see one being used. One more thing: the other night I was waiting for the oven to finish - got a bit carried away with the reminiscing - my apologies. Where I come from, it's called the Windy City for exactly this reason - nothing at all to do with the weather. 🤐

I don't think there are any rules specifically for darkrooms. Just the common courtesies we'd extend to anyone, anywhere. When someone gropes you, but you're aiming at someone else, a gentle hand on his is enough. The whole point of a darkroom is to remove all the stimuli that are usually present. It's definitely not kosher for one bottom on a fuckbench, waiting for a Cock, to reach over to the guy getting fucked next to him and try to yank the Cock out of the neighbor and guide it to his own Hole - and that's actually happened to me. It's definitely not kosher to fail in one's <polite cough> "preparations. A Hole full of shit can clear the whole darkroom out in one damn hurry, and it's a thoughtless, selfish thing to do. Just the common manners apply, in the darkrooms as everywhere else. Generally there's not much talking, but I don't think there's anything wrong with talking Breedshit quietly to a Hole you're fucking, or the guy who's fucking a Hole right next to you. My first experience was at the recently passed Mans Country in Chicago. Off the snackbar there was a long, narrow corridor called Pig Alley, which wasn't totally dark. You could see other guys via ambient light at each end, and more clearly the nearer either end you happened to be. This was well before hiv came along, and guys would do anything to each other they felt like doing. Wanda Lust's* room off the stage in the music hall occasionally served as a darkroom, but at her invitation only. There was also a darkroom at the first incarnation of Steamworks, over on Broadway in boystown. The name escapes me - it was bought out fairly early on and changed to Steamworks, but while it was under the first owners there was a very dark darkroom, which was always popular. While (being slim) I liked the steam room best, I hit that darkroom for a while every time I went there. Lots of sucking/fucking, groping, etc etc. In FL, some of the bars/tubs have excellent darkrooms, and depending on the hour, can be full of men rutting in each other's Holes. There are a few guest houses that still have them too. But the best one, as far as I'm concerned, is Slammer. That darkroom is quite small now, but totally dark. One navigates via braille, since there can be a guy rutting in a Hole inches from you, and you can't see anything. The moans and groans (occasionally much louder) do help indicate where the action is, but usually it's so full of guys that one has to be very careful not to trip over some guy. Hands can reach out and feel you up, and you can't even tell which guy it is. Mouths can start to suck your Cock, and you can only feel the head - can't even see it. You feel up the asses, finger-probe the Holes, and slowly slide your feet up to the Hole, so as not to kick/step on some other guy. For guys that love this kind of sex, it's 1000000000 % fan-fukkin-tastic !!! I think one of the reasons I like darkrooms so much, is they reduce all the variables to the lowest common denominator. No one knows how good-looking (or not) the other guys are, so no one cares. No one knows much of anything, other than there are men busy doing what they're driven to do. Rutting/Mating/Breeding with joyful abandon. What more can any guy ask for ..... It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm *Wanda Lust was a famous Chicago drag queen, whose trademark was a brilliantly red wig. Stephen was one of those gentle souls who developed a superbly viperous tongue in reaction to the criticisms most D.Q.'s get accustomed to. He died in Kansas City - of all places - when he and a trick went to see a movie, someone seated behind them started in on him, Wanda turned around and verbally flamed the guy, at which point he knifed her to death. RIP, sweet boy. On a lighter note, once some guy with a really big hard Cock was lying in the middle of the empty dance floor in midday, on his back, when Wanda came out of her room by the stage. She was all dolled up, but walked over to this guy - rock-hard Cock pointing to the sky - lifted her dress and sat down in one fell swoop on this guy's Cock. That's when I learned about the "peter principal" - "take it when it's there for the taking".

Apology hardly needed at all. The above example is well constructed, sound thought-leading, and perfectly spelled. So are all your other interesting submissions/responses.

I had no idea that's why so many guys appear to have never attended grammar school. It's the drugs they're using !!! Here I had been blaming the sagging state of public education for the atrocious spelling, sentence construction, flow-of-reasoning, etc. My apologies to grammar school teachers everywhere !!!

I'm assuming that this gear is worn only when you're at a fuckjoint, private fuckparty, etc. So. This cage you wear is intended to warn others that your Cock is "hands-off", correct? Wouldn't a mere "no thanks", when some guy grabs your Cock, be enough? I get that it's fun to wear gear - particularly impressive items. It's your experience that even while wearing some clearly visible "hands-off" device, you still get guys grabbing at your Cock? My answer to the question was related to the limits the bottom has visibly stated, by wearing the chastity gear in the first place. I understand that some guys simply don't understand that a bottom isn't there to be handled any way a Top pleases. That's disrespectful at the very least, and deserves to be called out. In the context of a "scene", any guy touching something he shouldn't would definitely get called out by the man conducting the scene - maybe even kicked out.

I can cum again, after the first time, but there's not as much "evidence" the second time. After two though, I'm ready to do something else for a while.

You're not the only one .....

One bottom. Not that watching one T get in a number of Holes wouldn't be fun, but - given that choice - one bottom servicing many Cocks.

Yes, there's an enormous base of locals. This entire sprawl of urban/suburban/exurban population has an appreciably larger percentage of gay men, gay households, gay property/business/owners that most other areas in the country. Only the largest gay "mecca's" would enjoy more than the greater Ft. Lauderdale area. Sure, we locals fuck each other, hook-ups or in the fuckjoints, but there are always travelers here for sex too. That's a salivatingly hot pose you've assumed in your photo - maybe you should cum for a visit !!! Around here .......... It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm

I guess I'd put them in reverse order to that listed above. Favorite would be "emergency fuck", since it implies a lot of what I like and do anyway. Second-favorite would be "urgent fuck", since the mating ritual can be completed, but perhaps not savored in any lengthy way. Third-favorite would be the "bed-fuck", but it does have attractive qualities too - luxuriating in the Lust, Breeding repeatedly, wallowing in the pigpen as long as both guys want to. A perfect way to spend a rainy day.

I'm finding it interesting ... thanks for the post !!

That sounds like the very definition of "open minded" to me ...... just sayin ......

When considering the effectiveness of PReP, take into consideration the danger of a crash while driving, walking across the street and getting run down, slipping and cracking your head open in the shower, all kinds of stuff. Then, balance those risks against the above-mentioned reductions in risk of hiv, and you'll wind up with a fairly impressive appreciation of how PReP can protect you from hiv. Nothing is fool-proof, we're all going to ditch at some point from something, and the way I see it, taking easily-accomplished steps with impressive track records of protection so I can live my life on my terms is - well - a no-brainer. Sure, you'll pick up some treatable bugs once in a while. Get regular testing, get rid of the bugs, and keep fucking. The way I see it, a small price to pay for living the life I need to live.

Welcome, BigBearSean Thanks for your insightful commentary. Most appreciated and well thought out. As to the "fuck that asshole" comment, that's waaaay too generous of you .....

Actually, if I were the cinematographer, EVERYONE ON EARTH would know !!! Obviously, I'd put a "squiggle" (or whatever it's called) on your face so you wouldn't pay the price, but they definitely would. I wound have to admit - if I saw a couple of them at the tubs taking loads, I'd probably add mine. ... 5 or 7, maaaaaybe ... expecially if you'd already been "visiting" with them ....

Please do !!! The first three are definitely rarified and refined !!!