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Sometimes, it’s fun to share our learned insights, techniques developed over the years of Breeding Holes. Here are a few of mine, from a Top’s perspective. Share some of yours too. Tops: I try to include the bottom’s thoughts in a 1-1, get an idea of what he likes, why, and give him at least some of what he wants. Maybe he want’s to be hammerfucked, maybe a more “intimate” type of Breeding. Maybe he looooves to suck Cock and taste your Cockdrool for a long time before he takes it up his gut. Not that he gets everything he wants, but giving him at least some of what he wants makes for a better exchange. Maybe he loves dirty Breedtalk, maybe not. Find out if there’s anything he really dislikes, so as to avoid it. The more you can figure out at the beginning, the better the fuck you’re going to get. I like to mix it up in a 1-1. First, I always eat/suck the Hole, but then that’s one of my favorite fetishes. A first-class mouth-lube makes distasteful commercial lube unnecessary, and if there’s already a load up there, so much the better. Then, a serious yet somewhat gentle probing of the Hole with my Cock. Maybe start out with the standard, in & out, not too fast or demanding, just some “getting to know you” kind of thrusts. Bend the knees a bit and thrust upward a few strokes - then, on your tip-toes thrusting downward for a few strokes. I’m on the thick side, so I like the bottom to know just what to expect. After some Cock-to-Hole exploration and his Hole is ready, I let go - give him a hammerfuck for a while. Lie your chest down on his back, and thrust with only your hips. You can get deeper, and whisper pure filth in his ear at the same time. Always use your whole Cock, balls deep. Grind it all the way in, talking Breedtalk in his ear. Tell him how much your Cock loves his Hole. Some guys fuck like there’s an iron rod up their ass - with their whole body - and it’s ungainly, prevents variety in the thrusts, and seems “disconnected” to the bottom. There are any number of techniques, and every one is pervectly valid. If he’s a decent Cocksucker, I let him do that for a while so he can taste his own Hole. But when the moment comes, tell him you’re going to Breed him deep. Verbalize it. One of my favorites phrases is, when I know I can’t hold out very much longer, I say “now I’m going to make you one of my boys” … they love it. Obviously, in a group setting none of this matters though. If the Hole is taking load after load, just use him and move on to the next one. Usually, a bottom wants to feel great about what he needs, i.e. your load pumped up his Hole. I try to reinforce that notion with filthy, depraved, quiet talk. Verbalizing how hot his Hole feels, how much you’re looking forward to filling his Hole, etc etc makes him all the hotter for it. Put a sweat on his brow. If you have favorite positions, favorite acts, make sure he knows them in advance. It doesn’t have to be a lot of blah blah blah - you can just say something like “follow my lead”, just to lay out the groundwork. And always respect anything he doesn’t want, but that should go without the saying. Bottoms: Always bring a clean Hole and a dirty mind to the hookup. If you’ll be taking his Cock on a bed, spread your knees as wide as possible. Turn your head in either direction (most comfortable), and place your turned head and shoulders flat on the surface. Not your belly, your shoulders. Your back should be arched, in the concave position,with your Hole pointing straight up - offering it bluntly and directly to the Cock. If the Top likes hearing you tell how much you need his load, be clear-voiced about saying so. No murmuring. If he tells you to shut up, obey at once. You’ll get a better fuck out of it. And always thank him for his Sperm when he pumps your Hole full. If you’re placed on a fuckbench and your body doesn’t fit the best settings, merely ask if he will move the supports for your arms/legs. The point is, to offer your BreedHole to the Cock in the most enticing, lurid position possible, and it’s to your benefit as well as the Tops. For any kind of more spicy action, a “negotiation” prior to the scene is required. This will include exactly what will or will not happen, establishing a “safe-word”, and you and the Top are equals during any negotiation, which happens in person, well before the scene, and usually in a neutral place (I.e. a bar for a beer, a restaurant for some lunch, on a park bench), but definitely in a neutral, public place. If there’s something that doesn’t seem right, by all means apologize and excuse yourself. It’s ok to act on any negative feelings. Far better to avoid serious trouble in the first place than get into it when it’s too late. It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm

I've even seen group scenes where some of the guys not actually Breeding have what look like plastic ketchup bottles squirting some pale, watery shit all over the place ... kinda puts a damper on the whole thing. I do understand why the Tops are supposed to show the "money-shot", but the first jet of Sperm is enough for that. The rest belongs IN THE HOLE !!! Like there's any better lube than loads off previous Cocks ???

Yes, and there may be a way around that particular (and fairly common) situation: The two (presumed to a committed relationship), regardless of the extraneous details (like who does the dishes, who shops for what, who does the laundry, who gets to fuck other guys and when, who gets whored out and when), would be to create a "balance sheet" of income/outgo regarding expenses, and each guy contributes to the household relative to his ability. One guy's contribution could be 20 bucks, the other's could be 2 G's. The figures don't matter, the fact that each contributes according to his ability matters. There can be scheduled re-visiting the arrangements, if that's desirable. Each guy contributes to the arrangement, and each guy gets what he needs from it. All that's really needed, is an honest, forthright "contract" between the two (or, perhaps more) guys involved. It can work, if each guy works it.

My fb Chris and I went to a rawbar to pick up oysters for supper; he had a fb with him who I'd not met. They came back to my place to eat. Hispanic guy, nicely hairy body, first-class Cocksucker, his Hole was very nicely hirsute. We took turns eating the Hole, rutting in it, fucked/bred it, sucked each others load out of it, mouthed the Seedmix back and forth, finally sucked him off together. Not the darkroom, but it was fun. btw - the oyster bar was crammed to the rafters, I only saw masks on a few of the servers.

There are a lot of gay guys in my 'hood too - more moving in all the time. That's fairly recent though, maybe the last 3,4 years. It's getting damn close to an outdoor bazaar around here ... some pale little kid (I mean, sheet-white) has a great golden retriever, and that kid just talks up a storm. I doubt he's out of high school, and about the last thing I'd be interested in. He'll get gobbled up soon by some of the neighborhood crocodiles, and the rest of us will have to hear all about it. yawwwnn .... If he ever turns up at the fuckjoints, well ..... maaaaybe ......

In the absence lately of much discourse on issues I find interesting, I've been reading old posts ... like this one. Some of these replies are 9,10 years old. Did these guys just quit the site? Apparently it's ok to resurrect a 10 year old thread and crank it up again. Anyway, ATM has another application too. It's not just for bottoms that just took loads, and then sucking the Cock clean of Sperm. A lot of Tops really love their mouths on wet Holes too. In the darkrooms, I'm not the only Top feasting on well-fucked Holes full of loads (or, Cocks covered with cum, fresh out of a wet Hole). To the "preparedness" thing: I very seldom will allow a Cock to fuck me in the darkrooms: maybe once or twice a year. That said, I do the "preparation" thing almost every time I hit the fuckjoints, just in case that "moment-of-connection" occurs. I don't like cleaning out, I don't like any part of it. But my behavior is dangerous enough already - no need to increase it by messing around with "unprepared" Hole. Which implies that if there's any chance I might take a Cock, then it's up to me to be "prepared". For a bottom to offer his Hole up for Breeding without cleaning out is unconscionable (unless, of course, shit in the Hole is negotiated prior to the hookup), irresponsible, and only increases the danger to others. It's all about Cock/(clean)Hole/Sperm

Sure. As mentioned in another post, I kept a Breedboy for about 3 years. He wasn't a whore in the financial sense: he just loved taking raw Cock/Sperm up his Hole. He would get online, cruise Cocks for him, Holes for me, and we had guys over several times a week, either to just Breed him, or for me to Breed. Sometimes I'd just send him out if I had other stuff to take care of, and he'd bring a full, wet Hole home for me to enjoy. It ended when the drug addiction got to be too much for me to put up with. But, we're still friends. Currently, I have one fairly regular fb, a few irregulars. One of the irregulars used to stop by in the mornings to suck me off, just so he could go to work with Sperm-taste in his mouth. Haven't heard from him in a while though; hope he's ok. Chris (fb) lives nearby, has similar sexual tastes as mine, and we get together fairly often. I like him, he's trustworthy, and at least as piggish as I am. Often he has another guy to share, sometimes I do. In this age of covid, we're particularly close, since we're so compatible, and it's so dangerous to hit the fuckjoints now. While I have many gay "casual" friends, none of them know my particular fetishes, but Chris does, he shares them, and we're having a good time waiting out the covid mess together. I remember my mother had a pressure-cooker with a shot-glass-sized doo-dad on the cover that would release all this steam inside the pot. Chris is my "release valve", and I'm his. I even let him fuck me occasionally, if he's got a real sweat on his brow. It's the "connection" that counts most for me.

Sucking a Cock: First year of undergrad. One of my frat brothers was trying to figure out how to pedal the Vierne, and the hall was empty except for us. So we were sitting on the organ bench, and (obviously) looking at the pedals/feet placement, and I noticed his Cock was getting hard in his corduroys out of the corner of my eye. I was stunned, but so did mine. He and I were pledge bros together, and had become fairly close friends. (as it happens, I was pretty good at compositional work, and often did other guy's assignments so we could all go out drinking). So he put his arm around my waist, and had this beautiful smile, ear-to-ear. And that was when I found out that guys actually could have sex together. In my defense, I would mention that I was the oldest kid in my family, drowned in religiosity, and he had a brother 2 years younger. The next year, yes, I did both of them together, and they did me together. The brother worked for a mortician, and I still remember his hair smelled of formaldehyde. But !!! He came to visit in a red, Jaguar 12 roadster (his bosses car), so all was very quickly forgiven. Taking a Cock: (other than my life-partner's Cock, which was far more than I could comfortably take, and he never actually shot up my gut) Years later, in the fuckroom of the GC-cum-Eagle in Chicago. That was the moment when it occurred to me that I was only experiencing 1/2 of the thrill of Breeding*, and allowed some guy (sight unseen) to fuck me while I was fucking another guy. All I did do, was reach around to make sure his Cock wasn't too big. It wasn't, and when that Cock shot in my Hole, I shot in the other guy's Hole I was rutting in too. Never did see who the first one was. This would have probably been in my late 20's/very early 30's. I seldom get fucked, but - occasionally I'll allow it when the circumstances are really special. It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm *addressed in another post

I agree with half of your reply. It's the worst thing that has happened to humanity, to critical thinking, to intellectual effort, to interaction with our fellow human beings, almost every human activity. It reminds me of a joke: So there was this girl walking to school. There was a boy driving his car to the same school. Both had their heads buried in social media on their phones. Girl starts to cross a street, boy runs her down. Neither noticed.

If you have dibs on the worst, then I must have the 2nd worst. Unless they're in either heels & feathers or Full Dress Leather, I don't have the faintest of clues. That wouldn't apply to getting an overt cruise walking down the street - I can at least recognize something obvious, but that's about it.

Yeah ..... riiiiiiiiiight .... I believe him ..... of course it was ..... I really, really, reallyreallyreally do ...... There seem to be so many guys around that can't seem to count past "first" ... Who cares if it was his first or his thousandth and first anyway?

All I can add is be careful in deciding how much information you disclose on these sites. I'm sure I've fucked guys on BZ at some point - given the numbers involved. I've always been careful in dishing out really personal information unless and until I know I like Breeding his Hole. There's really no reason for any of us to know each other's birthday, is there? It's not like we're gonna send flowers .....

I can't really say I give a rats ass what number other guys think I reflect. I know I'm confident in my proclivities, I know what I want, I know what I don't want, and I don't go hungry. I get cruised in the grocery store, hardware store, on the street, all of that - but it doesn't mean all that much. Nice, but - so what? I've become very proficient at feigning indifference when I want to. If they're not ass-up in the fuckjoints, who cares what number we rate ourselves. I've never fucked my own ass, despite the admonishment occasionally delivered so coarsely. 😜

Same here, Read1 ... Omicron is everywhere around here - haven't been to my favorite fuckjoint for almost a month now. My fb Chris and I are fully vacced/boosted, so we're seeing a lot more of each other than usual. None of the guys I know that have come down with O got seriously ill though, having been 3-vacced as well. Both Chris and I are getting really tired of no fresh Hole - but, at least we're getting off together, which is much better than fucking my damn fist !!! The bloom faded from that rose decades ago ...

First Class potential fuck. Big, wide smile = big wide mouth. One can only imagine what pleasures that ass would deliver !!! And, the Lions won yesterday over GB !!! Their slinky grey/silver pants are so skinny one could almost count the pubes through them. So when are some of these bruisers gonna start kicking their way outta the NFL closet ???

^ Having read through the replies (mostly re: bottoms sucking residue sperm off the Cock that just bred them), there is a variation on this theme that has just surfaced which would apply to me. While I love eating Hole - expecially a nice hairy one - there is nothing as pleasurable as eating Hole full of Seed off multiple, previous Cocks. Sperm is the perfect "condiment" for raw Hole, and I do like plenty of well-condimented (looks like I just made up a new word) Hole. A Cock that's just been rutting in a full, wet Hole tastes much better than one that hasn't. As to the lube-taste ... I would hazard that the Hole wasn't properly mouth-lubed with spit in the first place, thus requiring commercial lube. Eating loaded, wet Hole is totally sexy, and kissing a guy who's either just sucked off some Cocks or eaten wet Hole is pretty cool too. M2(full)A is haute cuisine at it's finest. It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm

I remember so well. Reagan never even let the term out of his asshole mouth. I tried condoms. I really did try. It was just so unsatisfying, I simply quit fucking for a couple of years, until the medical sciences came up with the first treatments. That was a very dark time, guys dropping dead everywhere. Rubbers were so inhibitive I just figured I'd stay home and jack it off rather than use them. Before hiv, fucking was almost like shaking hands -utterly common - every guy fucked / got fucked. When I finally decided it was safe enough to actually feel a raw Hole on my Cock again, I hit the backroom of the Eagle. Picked a bottom, and almost wept when I shoved it to him - raw. It was like an important facet of my life woke up from a loooooong, Rip-Van-Winkle sleep, and I felt alive again. I felt whole - complete - natural - alive again. It's all about raw Cock / breeding raw Hole / pumping Seed in deep.

Baretop4ever: 100% SPOT ON. Thanks for the posting, and welcome to BZ !!!

These are tragic recitations of early-to-mid childhood violations. I am so very sorry these events took place. It does bring to mind a question though: For clarity, there is never ever any excuse for an adult to sexually molest a kid. The question though, is - (and I believe our sexuality is an in-born part of who we are to become when we grow out of childhood), I'm wondering if there are unwitting, tell-tale signs we emit as little kids, that we're born to become gay. Not overtly sexual hints - but something else, that inhuman older men, frustrated for whatever reason, perhaps culturally pressured into living a lie - can recognize in a little kid. Is it possible that we unknowingly - in complete childhood innocence - tip our hand somehow as to who we will grow up to be? Or, does the violation in and of itself create the sexual identity? Just because I don't believe that, doesn't mean it's impossible. I'm no trained sexuality therapist ... Anyone have thoughts on this ???

Kudos, BootManLA. Well done. I was raised in quite a religious environment (mainline Protestant), and started smelling the weasel in that woodwork in my early teens. Once, as the congregation ended reciting one of the "creeds" with the phrase "this is most certainly true", I laughed our loud at just that hushed moment of silence when everyone was sitting back down. I laughed at the nonsensical notion that we were supposed to actually say that phrase, when everyone had just stood and recited the whole silly thing. Why have to announce the belief that it is really really really all true, when we had just finished reciting it en-masse? Of course, I caught a beating when we got home, but so damn what. Apparently, even as a little kid I was a bit rebellious in that particular venue. There was an old toad of a woman who always petted me, stroked under my chin as a little kid. She was a hideous old crone, and I detested her. Somewhere around the age of 5, I let her have it, and kicked her in the shin as hard as I could. Caught a substantial spanking then as well. But, I laugh to myself every time I recall it, and I'm still damn proud of myself for it.

I don't. But I do respect your intellectual curiosity, and find most of your posts well worth the read. If I didn't I wouldn't read them. There are some threads on BZ that I don't think I've ever even looked at, since they don't interest me. Thus, I take the time to reply. There isn't much in the "outside" world to ponder about; lately everything is getting more and more obvious. I enjoy examination when I find something within myself that may need some introspection. Self confidence is great, but it always deserves to be re-examined and maybe adjusted when appropriate. While most of us have never met in-the-flesh, and most likely never will, the intellectual work is always satisfying for me. For the Pig stuff, I know where to go, but there's no intellectual work to be done at those joints - thanks be.

You are correct, but I must engage on the 2nd amendment issue - which will appear in the "politics" section - where I think it belongs ??? A little later on then ....

Of course, and they have a name: rapists. And these miscreants exist across the entire spectrum - from 100% straight to 100% gay. In the context of predatory gay men though, there is a difference in a "non-rapist" gay Alpha and an actual rapist, that being an implicit understanding between all gay men making themselves available for sex, that each of the men involved are interested in having sex. Otherwise, they wouldn't be in x location (in-the-flesh, online, whatever) cruising each other in the first place. I completely agree, in that physical rape is terrible enough, but the mental "rape" is even worse. Unless. There is an active Bd/Sm scene - agreed to prior by both parties - which removes the possibility of "rape" via the negotiation. If that is violated, then it's a waste of perfectly good food for the rapist to bother feeding himself. I think it's as simple as a guy realizing he's born to have sex with other men, and prefers one position over the other. I don't think either preference is "learned". Some guys love both equally. It's a wide spectrum, of course. Even before I knew that it was possible for guys to actually have sex with each other, I remember looking at guy's asses in swimming class in Jr. High more than I looked at their cocks or balls (class was sans swimming suits, and any guy that got a hardon was teased relentlessly). I took note, in a clinical way, of who was growing pubes and who wasn't (late-bloomer here, dammittall), but I don't recall noting much of anything about their cocks. Simple. We're born that way. We grow up wanting to stick our cocks in other boy's holes*. It's inborn - it's instinctive - just as the aversion to sex with the other gender is instinctive. I'm assuming that's valid for men who love taking cock up their gut too. They feel born to it - just another part of who they were born to be. There are anomalies, (i.e. men who have suffered that mental rape that might overcome their inborn inclinations), but the vast majority of us knew at an early age we were - for some reason - attracted to our own gender. Reading through some other replies on different threads, apparently some guys knew what's what as very young boys. I was not among those so blessed. *depending, of course, on when we reach the age of sexual awareness. He has. I would say he's sated his Lust by pumping his Seed up your estimable Hole. I wouldn't agree about the "emptiness" though, since it implies a deeper "exchange" (or lack of it) than many Tops are interested in. Which brings me to one possibility: Most Tops, Alphas in particular, do enjoy one of the most ancient of instincts; the preservation of the species*. If we extend that "species" reference, maybe there is some deeply buried reference in our brains to that ancient necessity. Many Tops love to rut in hole after hole after hole, which inclination might be explained this way. I don't know, but it occurred to me out walking the dog. *as we know, many of the more predatory male animals fuck many different females during the "mating season", thus ensuring the survival of their species. Well, I don't know why I was born with blond hair, other than the fact that so was everyone else where I came from. I don't know why I've always been slim, or eye color or any other characteristic. What I do know, is that my sexual instincts are aimed towards other men's Holes. I have never been even remotely aroused by women. Why? The only anwer I can give is, I was born with a different schwerpunkt. More, as the years went by, I developed a taste for - - oh - - deeper experiences ... which is why I love, need cumdumps. I've explained that "epiphany" elsewhere, so I won't go into it all over again. The above quote applies only to me (since I seem to be the only one responding, save 2 brief ones). I don't think I said that Tops love cumdumps - only that I do. I can't speak genuinely for anyone but myself, and then only generally for other Tops.

porn4jesus ??? I nominate YOU for the BEST handle on BZ !!! Thanks for the first laugh of the morning ...

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