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BootmanLA is correct, That almost "right-angle" turn between the colon and the rectum is also sometimes called the "second ring", the first being the actual anus. I think the nomenclature may be basically regional, in that I very seldom heard the term "second hole" back in the Midwest. 99 times out of 100, it's called the "second ring" in that area.

That's for damn sure - and it seems to be growing.

I'd call it the next thing to Heaven !!!

Well, I guess we're all born with certain abilities ... that IS an amazing ability, but I simply don't possess it, dammittall. Not that I'm complaining - everybody gets certain inborn abilities, and I've made good use of those I do have. That said, I would have appreciated at least some small measure of recognizing my own kind at a glance. Maybe I've missed a lot of action through the years, and I don't even know it ....

LOL ... no one here would believe that for a second, but the phrase is roll-on-the-floor funny. But I surely understand the response. I think I must have been porking something in the john when they handed out the "gaydar". I have never been able to "sense" anything unless they're in heels and feathers - or Full Dress Leather. I often go to a grocery store in the heart of Wilton Manors (ground zero in this area), and I know the store is half-full of gay men at the very least. Yet, l cannot tell, short of some overtly gay shirt or something. I often overhear as I'm passing by what is clearly a pair of men asking each other stuff like "do we need milk?" - or "let's get the pork chops for supper tonight". Sure, I've caught guys checking out my Cock, but their appearance gives me no clue at all. Chances are pretty good I've missed out on chances, simply because I can't recognize them. Even if I go to a bar with a buddy for a beer or three, and my buddy says "that guy's cruising you", I can't pick up on which guy it is. Guys laugh at how dense I am about it. While occasionally some guy will just say something like "wanna fuck?", I guess I must have a "radio-mug" too. This is why I hit the fuckjoint regularly, where every guy is there to fuck.

This reminds me of my Aunt Bitch. Yours was not a bitch, but mine was, and that's putting it gently. But she was afraid of me, so she was always the very definition of insincerity to my face. I only wish she would have allowed her detestable "real self" to surface, since I would surely not have let that opportunity pass by to unleash how deeply I detested everything about her. Even my cousins (her kids) started calling her Aunt Bitch. When she died, they must have had to dig an even deeper ring ring in hell, just for her.

Given the phraseology in your question, I'd say the guy thinks you're way too hot for him to even hope to have sex with you. Great responses above, so if you like him, figure out a way to let him know that you'd like to Breed with him. Go get him, tiger !!!

1. Mouth 2. Both 3. Slowly. cupping my tongue into a U-shaped chute, resting on my lower lip. Mouth open, obviously. 4. Thick. Thicker cum won't drip where I don't want it like watery cum might. 5. All sperm tastes good. 6. As much as the Cock shoots. It's the connection to the cumming Cock that I'm after. 7. Hard and Raw. Drooling with precum. Uncut. All cum is perfect. I don't suck a lot of Cock, mostly because I'm usually rutting in a Hole. But, I'll suck off a Cock while I'm doing it, and gladly. Addition: 8. It's got to be clean or I won't suck it. No cheese at all. Fresh load on it from rutting in a full Hole: Perfect.

Wel-cum to the wonderful world of realizing your fantasies, bud !!! Lot's of us have managed to do it, and I'd hazard a guess that there's a new career-potential in your future ... Pornographer !!! When you hook up with the inter-generational Breeding session again (and you probably will), make a video - you'll have customers lined up everywhere ... It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm

"Conservatively" educated as well, apparently. This post reminds me of what a plate of Alfredo - drowning in sour grapefruit juice - must be like. A lot starch, in long, stringy and disjointed perceptions, joined only by a bitter mish-mash of unrelated fragmentary thought-trainlets. But, there's room in the world for everyone, right?

Assuming an intended comma follows "deviant", I can agree with you completely. Thanks for the reply,

Saturday night at Slammer was a bit different because one of my fuckbuds wanted to go too - which is fine by me. Usually we hook up during the week to a) take the urge down a peg, b) one of us has run into something we know both of us will enjoy sharing, or just a cup of coffee and a talk (not usually though) 😉. So we went, and had a good time together - Chris' tastes are similar to mine, so we rutted in adjoining Holes, talked back and forth about how good, how full of Sperm, general Breedtalk. Swapped Holes, all of that. At some point he wandered off to suck off some Cocks (he's much better at it than I am), I just stayed in the darkroom eating/rutting in Holes. Later on though, he came back, kissed a mouth-full of Sperm to me, and said he'd been saving his load - for me !! Now. I know my ass isn't all that attractive anymore, and that doesn't bother me. I get fucked rather seldom, and his Cock has accounted for half of those fucks in the last few years, so I just said "it's yours", and kept fucking the Hole I was in. Felt good to give it up to a fuckbuddy over there. Usually we trade loads at either my house or his or when either of us has a particularly talented guest. Was fun - hot - to know other guys were a part of it, even in the dark ... It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm

BareLover666 has stated it clearly and concisely: We fuck raw for any number of reasons (feels 1,000% better, it's feels "natural", closer/deeper connection, etc etc etc,), and we take steps to limit our liabilities, and just accept that there will be mostly non-lethal consequences that we'll deal with when they arise. "Chasing" reflects virtually none of those attributes.

More likely, they don't give a fuck about you because you don't give a fuck about yourself. "Just some queeny faggot" sounds like someone who has given in to despair, hopelessness, and more. There's a whole wide world of good stuff - if you can manage to take a look. I hope that's the case.

Well, ok. I accept your position and respect your arguments and reasoning. Purposely infecting others is simply not something any guy should do - and thanks for the interesting discourse. I very much enjoy it.

BareLover666 is right. Not every guy on BZ is after the same thing. Some want this, some want that, and each guy gets to decide (hopefully after some serious mental work). It's the behavior that counts. It's up to each of us to decide how deeply we need to exercise our Lusts, and act accordingly.

addendum: The bottom should ask/say a couple of things, such as "I'm not hiv positive, but I want to be. Can your Cock convert me?" Or - I'm positive, and I want more of it. Can you re-infect me? Or I'm hiv negative, and I want to stay that way; questions/statements to that effect. It the Top says yes, his Cock is potent in that regard, no lie has been told or even implied. Honest, upfront and truthful. If the Top says no, I cannot infect you, when he can indeed infect the bottom, then the operative lie becomes operatonal. That is when the stealthing, however despicable, would become an active action. Now. While I completely disagree with dishonesty in any situation, particularly so when the well-being of others is put in danger, I can think of all kinds of criticisms (my own, not speaking for others) to unleash upon the liar. Lying is antithetical to decency, despite it's ubiquitous-ness. Thus, bottoms who do not want to become hiv positive should take the steps appropriate to avoiding it, and not put much stock in receiving a reliable answer if they pose the question. They should assume that a stealth-fuck is in the works, whatever the circumstances. They'll come down with other issues - we all do - but at least they'll have the opportunity to take those appropriate actions before something more serious happens.

Of course it's intentional harm, and inexcusable. However, unless he (the Top) lies about being infectious, if asked by the bottom, or implies (actively misleads in response to the bottom's questions) he is not infectious, I don't see how it can be stealthing. The obvious solution would be that every bottom that cares, should ask, and then weigh the potential consequences of taking the guy's load. Whether the bottom believes the Top is up to the bottom to decide. The bottom should simply assume he may be about to be infected with something every time he takes a raw Cock up his gut. But, in the absence of any active misleading statement, I don't see how we can call it Stealthing. For this reason, it's important (in my view) for bottoms to protect themselves as best they can from whatever may cum their way; PReP is currently the most widely used way to lessen the chances of hiv infection. When men decide to fuck raw, only a genuine dullard would believe that he'll never contract anything, based on a mere conversation. Agreed. Irresponsible, certainly - but I wouldn't call the above a "stealthing" fuck either. Agreed. To my mind, inexcusable, but that's only my own view. However, it takes two to tango, and if neither guy asks any questions, then there is no opportunity to "stealth", since by not asking any questions, the bottom has not offered the Top the opportunity to lie in the first place. Without the questions being asked, there's no lying - no stealthing that can exist. No guy asked, so no subterfuge can happen without a dishonesty of some sort taking place prior to the lie (or stealth). In other words, an infected Top that wants to spread his infection to others (regrettably, they do exist) cannot "stealth" a Hole without a previously deceitful answer to the bottom's question. Stealthing can only exist when there is a previous, active falsehood. We're getting down in the semantic weeds here, but I happen to enjoy this .....

I don't think so. If you mean merely saying nothing (nondisclosure being the active act), no mention of any potential transmission being made by either party, I don't see how that could be called stealthing. The very word implies secrecy, and carries an aura of dishonesty (from either party). I rather doubt that there are many men in the world who need raw sex with other men, and have never heard of STD's. If no mention, no questions are asked (or even hinted) regarding health-related issues, and the men engage in raw fucking, there cannot be any violation, any "stealthing". Merely engaging without any mention, however vague, of transmission cannot be called (in my opinion) "stealthing". It may or may not make much sense, but absent any dishonesty, the chips fall where they may.

So I noticed SquaredDolphin's post with pics of beautifully inked guys. First, thanks, SD, for collecting that beautiful group of photos. I would gladly fuck every single one of them, and more than once. They younger, blonder ones, maybe not quite as much, but I'd Breed in any of their Holes. To me, a heavily inked guy just hollers raw sex. It's an unmistakable public address about who and what they are, how proud of themselves they are, how they simply refuse to accept any judgements, and a statement of "fuck you" to anyone who would try. Sometimes it takes a while to get past the "uber-butch" thing, but more often than not I get to suck my own load out of those hottttt-assed guys. Substantial tats used to be something of a surprise, only discovered when the duds came off, but lately the really dedicated are getting the public statement bluntly put on their necks, and I'm the moth to their flame. I do like a few years on them, but rutting in those Holes - eating them, rutting again, eating them again, sharing them with other Cocks, Breeding them, sucking their full Holes ... just turns my crank like crazy ..... GRRRR !!! I know that most of the guys I fuck aren't models. And that's fine - I love raw Hole ... almost any raw Hole ... and this being Friday I'm headed out in a couple of hours to get some. There's a guy over at my favorite fuckjoint with Cocks tattooed on each ass-cheek. Maybe he'll be there again tonight ....

Work is work, right? Work is some kind of service provided for monetary gain (or, perhaps some kind of "in-kind" thing of value), right? Whether or not the type of work is legally sanctioned does not impact the basic contract (however, if it is illegal, some extra amount may be charged because of that fact). That said, is there some difference between m/m, m/f, f/f sex work? I don't think so - it's commerce, controlled by X service for an agreed-upon price. Butch, fem, trans, whatever else has no bearing on it. Purchasers of these services are unlikely to commence discussion with a sex-worker if that worker does not reflect what they're interested in. Who am I to judge them? Everyone needs to eat, right? Everyone needs shelter, right? If some folks judge other folks for how they keep food in their bellies and a roof over their head, then that's a shame on the judger, not the judged. Obviously, putting a "contract" out on some enemy would be both illegal and irredeemably corrupt. But sex work kills no one, and is only socially/culturally sanctioned by the majority, and thus legally. Unless I'm mistaken, there are governments in the world that license sex-workers (gotta get their cut, of course), and thus officially condone these business contracts. Maybe one of these centuries, that kind of generosity will come to this country too. I would suggest that exactly what the "contract" (i.e. the business arrangement, almost always vocally constructed in this instance) specifies the details of what services will be provided, what the price will be, and (hopefully) any "limits" to be respected. What difference would it make whether either of the parties are male, female, transsexual, not transsexual, on camera, off camera (frankly, I don't even know what that means, other than relative to some contracted-for service), or any other way. The "contract" could be nothing more than: "will you suck me off for X bucks?" I don't see how what the contract specifies has any bearing, other than perhaps culturally. The purchaser views the product, and decides whether to buy it or not. As to whether the purchaser holds some kind of negative view of certain characteristics, said purchaser wouldn't inquire in the first place, and move on to someone more to his/her liking. For the record, I have nothing at all against sex-workers. They provide a necessary service to the lowest of the lowly and the highest of the mighty. Stormy something ... she of the bovine breasts as I recall, would be an example. While I wouldn't fuck her for any amount of money doesn't mean that she shouldn't be able to conduct commerce. Years ago I was in a participant in a number of home-made group action videos, which was fine with me. Guys in the area would text the kid that had the cameras to see if they couId come over too, and often times they did. I had no idea there could have been a pecuniary facet to it !!!

To lay the background: I have never missed an election, (even when I was traveling extensively years ago while building a business) including all the local, the primary, as well as the general elections. I was Captain of my precinct back in Chicago for a number of years, always delivering my precinct in the mid to high 90's. While I don't know enough about the "machinery" of foreign (ie. non-US) elections, I do know all about how domestic elections work (for those of you who know who Mayor Daley was, and subsequently his son as Mayor), I helped Richie win, and deliver the needed help to ordinary citizens, whether it be hunger, homelessness, employment, you name it. Operative word being help. Delivering elections to Democratic candidates helped regular, ordinary citizens with their problems, and I know this from first-hand experience. ALL elections matter, from school board members to your House District to the Primaries to the General. Tip O'Neill - scion of Liberalism - once paraphrased an old saying: " All politics is local". That means me, it means you. Thus: I have never voted for a Republican, because I found no such outreach within their ranks as outlined above. I have found, through years of what might be called "Community Service" that there is nothing offered by the so-called Conservative Party other than platitudes and enriching only themselves. To me, this embodies the willful ignorance of the general welfare of the community, which is based in the depravity of White Privilege. The Conservative Party in the U.S. is entirely about conservation of the protection, extension of their position of privilege in society. The Liberal Party, however fractious, is entirely about uplifting those who are not, by accident of their birth or circumstances, among the elite. To those who I have just pissed off, I challenge you to reflect deeply on what it means to give a rats ass about our fellow human beings. Don't bother to bitch at me; I'm completely impervious to intellectual laziness. Instead, spend that energy on trying, in some small way, to offer a helping hand to those in your community that really need it. Consider whether you give anything back to your community, to your town or city, to your state, to your Country. If you find that you are only taking from society, then figure out how - in whatever small way - you can help uplift those who need it. Start small - it's easy - try just a non of acknowledgement of others while walking down the street. Maybe donate some pocket change to a beggar. Help someone other than yourself. This, my friends, is why I am a Liberal/Progressive, and will never ever cast my vote for a Republican. If Gabriel blew his trumpet, Jesus came outta the clouds and hollered "Vote Republican", I'd risk my chances elsewhere. It's all about doing what you can to uplift those who need it.

Wellllllll .... I guess it depends on the venue. For a bd/sm Leather scene, I always wear gear: Wescos, Leather jeans, or camo pants w/ heavy leather belt, one of the special Cockrings, sometimes a full harness, sometimes a half, usually a vest, and a mutze. Maybe some other gear, depending on the specific scene. For going to the fuckclubs, old 501's, steel Cockring, heavy leather "restraint" belt from Mr.S., a tee shirt, old engineers (since they're likely to get trampled on, never any of the good pairs, maybe a ball-cap. And nothing else. I happen to think a hard Cock sticking out of an unbuttoned pair of 501's is a fairly blunt visual cue to the guys I need to rut in. You guys will laugh, but I still have a pair of old, old 501's so worn it's almost in pieces - I've tried, but I just can't bring myself to toss them, considering everything I've done wearing them ... I am never not wearng something when I fuck.

Actually, I've found through the years that after the first few moments of being sucked, the Cocksucker's saliva becomes more - well - slippery, more of a lubricant all by itself. That more slippery "spit-lube" is produced more prolifically the more the guy sucks Cocks. I very much enjoy that secondary aspect of the guy's saliva, since it often oozes out of his mouth and hangs in long, stringy loops off his chin, onto my balls. Usually a cocksucker will spit the lube-drool into his own hand and start jacking his own Cock while slobbering on mine. Obviously though, the very best mouth-lube would be a load sucked out of some other Cock, just before going down on mine.

Actually, that's pretty much how I started too - mostly sucking off Cocks. There used to be a rundown store-front "theatre" over on Wells St (Old Town, Chgo), and I'd go down there sometimes and suck Cocks for hours. While I liked sucking Cocks off, sometimes that old Peggy Lee song rattled around in the back of my head, and I vaguely wondered if That's all there Was to it. I had fucked guys before, but gradually it got to be more and more - well - "in focus". I particularly like your reference to the "beginning of your journey", in that I feel like I've been on a sexual odyssey (or journey) all my adult life. But, watching other Cocks fuck at the tubs, backrooms - finally giving into the urge - and realizing that I was ok at it was a bit of a watershed. Watching other men fuck, witnessing different techniques, knowing that I wanted to fuck like that guy, but not like the other guy, was all it really took. While at first I only Topped, it was at one of those backrooms when my own epiphany occurred and I took my first load off an unseen Cock in a backroom full of rutting men (I was fucking a Hole at that moment) just for the thrill of doing it. Joining, embracing, sharing, being a part of the whole. It's not about what a guy looks like, or what he's wearing (or not), it's all about the connection - the mating - at least for me. I'll still suck a Cock off, but not because I absolutely want/need to do it. I'll still take a Cock up my gut, but for reasons other than loving it. It wasn't until I started Topping that I discovered how *real* the connection could be - and that's what turns my crank more than anything. I've grown, matured; I know what I love and why I need to do it. Watching other men Breed helped me understand how much is really available when we don't just fuck, but *mate* with our brothers-in-lust. It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm