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Nope. Never have experienced that. I'm sorry to know you guys had to go through that violation. I've had unwelcome advances, of course, but it never got out of hand. I've never forced myself on another guy either - the whole thing is a wretched, evil concept.

Again, what an interesting question. I am a pacifist, so maybe (relating to that other thread) it was kind of a surrogate Domination of a guy I just don't like. Usually, if I'm setting up something at home, I like to at least not dislike (forgive the double negative) the guy. Nobody always likes everybody else, and in those instances, my inclination is to be politely distant, and that almost always has the desired effect. That particular guy though, both irritates me and - for some reason - makes my Cock hard. He does possess a couple of my favorites - a hairy ass, and some suggestive ink - but so do a lot of guys. I also know that he had taken at least 2 load before I realized who it was, which happens to be my principal fetish. But, I certainly didn't indulge my inclination to eat his wet ass. I cannot even imagine sitting down and talking with him. As I think of it, I don't recall any "yeah, I really used that asshole good ..." feelings. Without going into it all over again, that's not my goal at all when I hit the fuckjoints. I remember reading your Lakota incident on the blog. This guy is caucasian (lower case intentional), and I'm hardly a racist when it comes to Holes. My best fuckbud happens to be Af/Am, I know him well, I like him very much, and I trust him, and we have a lot of filthy fun together. Per the colonial aspect (or, invasion of this continent and subsequent laying waste to the indigenous by forebears that look just like me), I don't care for a "hate-fuck" at all. Far more effective is working for Justice, Equality for all. So I'm sure I didn't fuck that guy in that sense. There is simply something about him that makes my Cock hard, and I don't really understand what it is. I'll stew on this a bit ....

First, the noun is not descriptive of a dedicated bottom: a better word would be PRIDE - in my humble opinion. Tops aren't monolithic in their innate needs. All we really have in common is the urge, the inclination, the need to fuck willing bottoms. The shades of grey are many, from loverboy-Tops to Alpha Tops. Most of us aren't like wild animals, prowling around for prey to consume. That would be - in my estimation - inhuman. Sure, there are some men like that, but their panther-like behavior must be rooted in something other then their sexuality. Men like that exist across the entire range of human sexuality. If there's any prowling involved, it would most likely be waiting for their turn on a particularly hot BreedHole. Drawing a parallel between beasts of prey and men that hunt Hole is a bit of a stretch. Sometimes we may fuck like beasts, but we're not animals, driven by mere instinct and nothing else. We're human beings too. Obviously, I have no idea who your local Top is, so I have no input into why he said what he did. All I can do is offer my own perspective on your post. Of course, to the extent that our orientation is to rut in / pump our Sperm in raw Holes. With many shades of variation (in inclination) into the mix. Tops - from Alpha (to Omega?) love Hole. Verse guys love Hole. We need cumdumps. We cannot do without cumdumps. We're only one half of the whole, and fucking our fists wears off really fast. We need men that serve our Cocks with their bodies - their Holes. Some Alphas might like to give the impression that they're constantly on the prowl for fresh prey, but that's almost never the reality. We have jobs, we have interests other then sex, we have responsibilities just like everybody else. I notice that I seem to be the only one responding to this most interesting thread, and I'm not really the Alpha you want to hear from. Maybe I'm not equipped to keep at this ... but I do enjoy the discourse. Hopefully some of these lions, tigers and bears will stop their hunt for more prey (momentarily, of course) and give you the reply you're looking for. In any case, thanks for posting such an interesting subject. Reportedly, you do indeed. I would never - ever ever ever turn my back on your Cock in a darkroom, in the unlikely event it pointed in my direction. I have no fetish for an ambulance ride to a hospital to have my guts sewn back up !!

This is quite true. Given that I am intensely political, and find it difficult to forgive stupidity, there was a neighbor in the next block that repelled me to the enth degree. I didn't like anything about him. Braying, loudmouthed, uncouth, ill-mannered, entitlement all wrapped up on one asshole (no, I don't mean that asshole) and he seemed to like offending others. But. There was something about him that I couldn't put my finger on. It wasn't quite physical attraction, but he was decent looking. It wasn't any kind of rapprochement - the dislike was definitely mutual. Then, one off-night, I was over at RR, and saw him getting fucked over by the pool table - and my Cock almost tore itself out of my jeans when I meandered over there. Of course I fucked him - breathed in his scent - and despite everything, fucked him full. I'm not sure he even knew it was me, but it was deeply satisfying, and I'd do it again.

I think you're addressing so-called "Alpha Tops", in that there are many Tops that achieve their self-awareness through domination of others in many aspects of their lives. As you mention, in business, sports, etc would be the most common, but these men share that quality with straight men as well. It's more of an inclination to dominate in any circumstance which translates easily to sexual domination. The "I win, you lose" trait thrives across the entire plane of human beings. In the gay sexual sense, I don't think these men are in the majority. Often, Alphas find their best cadre of potential sex partners within the Leather scene. These men wouldn't view the "power exchange" as much more than in a "you give - I take" sense, and thus are a minority within a minority. That said, there's room for every guy in our sexual lives, and more power to them (with the usual required honesty, etc.). For myself, I take a Cock up my gut rarely, and then only within the context of the "sharing" facet of sex. I can't think of even one instance when I've been in a backroom/fuckjoint/public setting and let a Cock fuck me without my Cock being in a bottom at the same time, and then only if it's relatively modest in size. It's when I've reached that point mentally - when I'm celebrating my Lusts - conjoined with the greater, vast collection of men devoted to their Lusts. There is one current exception, that being a fuckbuddy that I like very much, lives a short distance away, and views his own Lust through pretty much the same prism as I do. Sometimes he comes over, and we fuck each other (and he, like me, is not swinging a "porncock"). Sometimes he brings a trick. Sometimes he comes over here, and I have a Hole for he and I to Breed together. Rather occasionally we hit the fuckjoint together. He's not an Alpha, and neither am I. In those instances, I let him fuck me not because I love - or even like - to get fucked, but rather in the sense of sharing myself with him, and enjoying him doing the same. More like two guys that love the same "connection", and enjoy sharing it with each other, as opposed to which guy is going to dominate the other. I hope you get some better answers from some *real* Alphas.

Both of the above responses from ErosWired and John54476 are perfect illustrations of why I ditched the online cruising apps some time ago. I realize that not every guy lives close to a fuckjoint/tubs/bar with backroom/ etc., and thus feels trapped into relying on the unreliable. Which is why, when I had no more reason to stay in the Midwest (passing of friends, family, life-partner), I spent some time sniffing out the kinds of places I could live my life and live my Lusts. I'd heard lots of good things about a number of places, and decided on Ft.L. Now, there's a pigpen close by, and anytime I want to wallow, it's a 10 minute drive away, and the guys I want to share my Lusts with are already there. No online bullshit - they're all there, ready and waiting. There's also a rather nice tubs with all the accoutrements for a man like me, and while I've never been a fan of the "terry-towel-twist", it's there and I can go if I want to. There are also gay guesthouses with no rules about fucking other guests; some offer "day-passes", so guys like me can go over to - oh - Inn Leather, for example, and make a day of it. I also realize that most men can't simply pull up stakes and move. Weighing the requirements that seem to pile up in our lives can be burdensome, but I would recommend to everyone doing what planning you can in advance, and when you're free of responsibilities elsewhere, find somewhere else to live in *real* Freedom. Planning in advance will allow you to jump when the opportunity presents itself.

I remember, and my apologies for not digging it out earlier. Mine is similar to your second-pictured one, except it has a pistol grip expansion with a faceted, curved ratchet-like device to keep it at the desired stretch. One squeeze on the handle, and it opens up one "click" more. Sort of like an old fashioned oil or grease gun. I must have bought it at IML many years ago. Not every bottom likes the idea, and I've never forced it on a guy (obviously). Since I seldom fist a hole, and since I'm not swinging a huge Cock, it's never really been used all that much, and I'm not all that interested in beginners.

Thanks for the reply. I think that - for once - you may have missed one possible quotient of the scene. Yes, in many cases, the delight of exercising mental as well as physical control is the singular goal. However, it is also the case that the Dom may very well want to "get inside the head" of the sub, so as to enable the Dom to deliver the best possible experience. Some of that is taken care of via the negotiation of course, but when there's some level of attraction in addition to the merely sexual one, it would hardly be out of character for the Dom to want the sub to enjoy an especially magnificent experience. True, some Doms are walking, talking, predatory Cocks. But not all. The "exchange", by definition, cannot be only one-sided, and be complete.

Same here ... Jr. High ... was humping the mattress, enjoying the sensation when I shot my first load. Thought I was going to piss in the bed and was horrified, until this white stuff shot out. Had absolutely no idea what it was - but started fucking that mattress every night with kleenex close at hand. A couple of years (!) later, my dad took me down to the YMCA for a Father/son group address on the "birds and the bees". Lots were classmates in one class or another - and we all laughed at school after that, pretending we'd known all along. Stupid kids ... too bad there wasn't one word in that group-class about sex with boys ...

Well done. There are few things more irritating than a group-scene with beginners making ill-conceived, ignorant, irrelevant comments. Guys, there are very specific expectations within the Leather Community during a group scene. Don't simply assume that what you see is actually what is happening. Learn a little something about the Leather Ethic before you attend. If you don't find anything of value within the LeatherLife, then go to some other venue to get off.

Well, bars come, bars go ... Speaking of which, I'll bet you're "chicken" to me, phukhole: I remember when GC was out on Lincoln Ave, close to Male Hide Leathers. And, across the street was AA Meat Market - the second floor of which was a delicious den of depravity. If I'm not mistaken, LD relocated years ago, and I don't recall if it ever got it's filthy reputation back. Cell Block used to have that huge backroom with the elevated gallery on the N side of the room. I've been asking guys I'm still in contact with back in Chgo what the name of that bar downtown was - pn Lake St - with the "breeding station" on the mezzanine - no dice so far though. I loved being a breeder in Chicago - but I love the warm weather of FL even more.

Try Arvo Part, contemporary Estonian composer (umlaut over the "a", rendering pronunciation as "Pehrt") ... Mirror in a Mirror can be mesmerizing ...

Never. Ever. If a guy is pumping poz, there are tons of guys that say they want it. If a guys says he doesn't, have the honesty to move on to the next guy.

1. Quit going to church with the family a lot earlier. 2. Start fucking boys in high school. Unfortunately, I didn't start fucking boys until undergrad. At least I knew instinctively not to get married, like so many of the guys in my h.s. class did. Who was I fucking in h.s., you ask? Pushy, soft, lumpy, shapeless, smooth, self-centered "you-know-whats". Hard to believe, but at the time I didn't even know guys could have sex together. Thank you Religious Indoctrination.

Or, for that matter, a second glance. Maybe they should take up knitting? At least they'd have something to show for it - like doilies under their vases of roses from all their religiously-motivated admirers .....

No reason to apologize - the longer these threads run, the more they sometimes seem to wander off. Actually, never anything overt. I think that guys that harbor "racist" feelings (and that's what they are - merely feelings, usually taught by generations of forebears) are essentially ashamed of those feelings, and sublimate them while in a sauna, backroom, fuckjoint, The most likely realize instinctively that they have some intellectual work to do, which would allow them to arrive at a more reasoned point of view. Most guys just don't give a rats ass about religiosity anymore.

Well said, Colonel !!! Definitely a crucial part of a successful night at the fuckjoint - at least for me.

Thanks, Brianbttm & BBncguysx: Well, we live, we learn ... I had no inkling that some compu-doo-dad like that counting device existed. I suppose one of these days, some actual living, winking, hungry Hole will jump outta the phone / computer for us to Breed in ... but I'll still hit the fuckjoints, even if it does become anachronistic. 😲

I happen to think that using/not using condoms is a personal choice. It's up to each individual guy to 1) determine what his risk-level is, 2) decide how to react to that determination, and 3) regulate his sexual behavior accordingly. Period.

Some of these responses are amazing. Do some of you guys actually keep track of the actual numbers? Keep a record of each time you take a load?

I surely don't understand the closeness twins feel, but I did witness it as a kid. There was a large family across the alley, and two of them were identical twin boys. Occasionally one or the other would come over with other kids to play in the yard (I was maybe 10 at the time?). I never knew which one it was by name, unless they both happened to be over and I heard them talking to each other. Usually though, as I recall, it was only one at a time. So I clearly remember that once a number of us we playing "you're it" or whatever - and the twin that was there suddenly stopped dead-still, kind of a distant look about him - and he just said "I gotta go", and ran off. I later found out that his twin brother had fallen down and hurt himself (not seriously) somewhere else, and the twin playing in my back yard sensed it somehow. I don't remember much more, but when I found out the brother had hurt himself, and his twin "knew", "sensed" something was wrong and went to find his brother to help, it was startling. I know it sounds crazy, but this actually happened. That family moved away at some point (the only other thing I remember about them was their old Willys) but that event is crystal clear in my memory. What a treasure to be so connected with a loved one.

Yep - he actually had the balls to say that right to my face.

Usually average breeding in a couple of holes every Fri & Sat nights at my favorite fuckjoint. Sometimes more, sometimes less, but that would be a fairly accurate guess. That, plus having a fb over, or going to his place might add up to 20 something. That would add up to somewhere around 125. Can't say I keep track of the numbers though; all I care is that I get Hole regularly.

Fodd i Skarbocka, Ostergotland, Sverige (don't know how to type umlauts). Bara en bondpojke. Bor i FL, USA.

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