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Try as I might, I can't remember the original name of the bathhouse now called Steamworks (in Chicago). I remember when it was opened, but under a different name, and it didn't last all that long. Anyone?

A Thousand Thanks for sharing this, AlwaysOpen. Watching this video (which I had never heard of before) was like a trip down memory lane. Remembering friends long gone, the marches, the struggles, and the eventual, hard-won victories. The younger crowd seldom has a clue what some of us experienced in the early days of budding "Gay Lib".

You nailed it, JamesL100. Most Tops want to at least rut in as many Holes as possible. It's part of that "connection" thing I sometimes go on about. I realize that the load-count is really important to a lot of bottoms, but the logistics just aren't in their favor. It would take a ratio of 20-to-1 in favor of the bottoms to sate them (other than an "organized" whoring-out event), and I don't know of any venue that would accomplish that, even around Ft.L. Maybe on the fuck-apps it still happens - I don't know.

Wellllllllllll, Subjames69 ........... looks like the answers are a bit heavy on the pig-quotient, but that's a good thing !!!🥰

Can't say I've seen anyone bring sextoys to the fuckjoints I go to ... I mean dildos, other "carry along's"- not "wear-able's" such as armbands, harnesses, etc. But then, I seldom hit the tubs, where it might be more likely.

My dad was a real ginger ... kinda queers it for me, I guess ... not that I won't, but not my favorite. We were adopted kids; when I was little I was more of a "The sun in the meadow is summery warm, the stag in the forest runs free" type kid (except I could get the 5th on pitch, unlike the kid in the movie). So-called "perfect-pitch" is more of a curse than a blessing - you hear everything - the overtones, the residuals, all of it.

I think it depends more on the state of the Hole. If it's already been fucked several times, it'll be more receptive to a hard & fast fuck, or a thick Cock. If the guy just got to the fuckjoint and I'm his first, sometimes the Hole just doesn't open up enough, even after some mouthwork. If that's the case, I usually I just tell the bottom that he needs to take a few Cocks before I fuck him to loosen / lube him up a bit. Causing pain (via fucking) doesn't interest me; I want my bottoms to enjoy my Cock as much as I enjoy their Holes.

I disagree. BloodSports requires a LOT more care and responsibility than mere fucking. Apologies, but I can't help but wonder if you're experienced at it.

Really !!!!!!!! So many *real* Leatherbars have closed, it's great to hear of a new one opening. Just asked the Googler - but only some old diner on Route 66 showed up. Is there a website?

Exactly. The burden rests on their shoulders, until they get so tired of the "double-life" that they either deal honestly with their sexual requirements or toss in the towel and withdraw altogether. It's a burden that is definitely not transferrable. We can empathize, perhaps we can help in other ways, but we can't carry other guy's burdens ourselves. If they're out there having sex with other guys, just fuck them and let that be it. I'm 100% certain that I've fucked guys through the years that were married/on the dl/whatever - and that's none of my business. In the backrooms, it's just the sex - nothing else.

Don't be silly - of course we're excited to read about your sexual exploits. I know some places offer more opportunities than other places, but that just makes sexual events in the less-active areas all the more fun to read about. Sure, Ft. L. is more active than many other locations, which is why I don't post in this thread all that much. To me, t's a bit unseemly to go on about it every weekend, when so many other guys have to make do with far fewer opportunities. So, I only write about exceptionally delightful nights-out. After the "foreplay" in the john, it must have put a sweat on your brow anticipating the main event. Unless you have truly tiny hands (and I don't think that's the case), you must have enjoy having a double-jointed jaw !!! I couldn't do what you did - and I doubt there's enough blood in my whole body to pump up a Cock like you describe. Thanks for sharing that great series of events with us 😋

Last night. Went to Ramrod, and did get an update on the "sale" situation. The two guys that have owned Ramrod (the business, not the building) for over 30 years have been renting the space. The owner finally decided to sell the building, and the owners of the business (RR) are the ones buying the building. Lately the fucking has been forbidden over there, since "there are city building inspectors coming and going all the time"; this reported by one of the long-time bartenders. Now. I don't know of any city employees that come to inspect plumbing, electrical, structural issues at any building in this burg at 11 pm or later. Any/every guy that's been there in the last few decades knows there have been issues with the physical plant for a loooong time. Never-the-less, that was the explanation. But, the good thing is, RR will - at some point - most likely continue to be the pigpen it always has been. So, one beer later I headed over to Slammer, and it was just nuts. All the snowbirds have flown the coop for the summer, so it was jammed with guys that either moved to Ft. L. for attractions like Slammer, or guys who were fortunate enough to have grown up here. Put another way, pigs. There were guys fucking each other everywhere - in the booths, in the hallways, in the darkroom, in the orgy room. In the darkroom, which was full, I started near one door because that was the only one with only one guy waiting his turn. When my turn came, he was like a bucking bronco - rutting his Hole back and forth, fucking himself. I had to tell him to stop trying fuck himself on my Cock - I'd rather fuck him. There were other guys standing around, but it was too dark to actually see them. A couple put their arms around my shoulders/waist, seemly out of nowhere. One guy even wriggled in behind me and rutted against my ass-crack while I rutted in the Hole. Another nuzzled my neck - felt up my chest, the bottom's back. It was as though they were partaking of the fuck vicariously. It's quite normal for guys to wear nothing but shoes, a harness, maybe some other bits of gear, and cocksuckers were busy even in the hallways. The orgy room was quite dark, and mostly full of guys fucking each other. There are always some bystanders in there, which is fine, but more guys Breeding than watching. Groping hands, bodies pressed together, Holes being filled, and there was room enough to get down to eat some Holes. Only 1 of them had commercial lube up there, which was a pleasure. Even the adjacent cocksucking platforms were busy. It seemed that a new rule had been established at Slammer - Pigs only admitted - It was just fantastic. After some rutting, I decided to walk around a bit, and a neighbor 2 houses down the block said hi, he was having a great time, and asked if I was too. It wasn't just me - he mentioned how piggish everyone was too. While I was talking to him, a hot guy, muscular, wearing nothing but an armband, boots and a smile, covered lightly with lovely fur, got down on the floor and started sucking both the neighbor's Cock and mine. The neighbor is a bottom, and excused himself, the guy going down on me got up, turned around and shoved his Hole onto my Cock - right there in the hallway. He'd clearly been well-opened up by then, and we stepped into a darkened, extra large booth with room enough for maybe 6,8 guys. His Hole was hairy, full of Sperm, and it was a total pleasure putting my mouth on it. Then, he stood up, kissed me so he could taste his loads too, and bent over; this guy would be a perfect "pigson". I slid right in to that cumhole easily, and he started in with the 'ohhhh ... ahhhh .... Breed me ...' talk, which only drew other guys. Another bottom was almost hollering filthy, delightful Breedtalk in the corner while a Top fucked him. The guy I was in had a perfect Hole - loose enough to just back up onto me - tight enough for me to feel every millimeter of his Hole, and the smell of his sweat, the loads, all the other guys was just perfect. Other guys feeling the bottom up, feeling me up, quietly talking Breedshit in my ear, in the bottom's ear. One of the best night's I've had over there in a while.

Felching wet Holes is right up there, second only to adding my dna in my book. Unless there's not enough space to kneel down and put my mouth on a Hole I need to at least rut in, I do it. Some guys like poppers - some guys like chemicals - I love to suck wet Holes, taste the loads, before shoving it to them (I always do a "sniff-test" first, which isn't any guarantee, but at least it's something). Ran into one last night, but I haven't found the "last load" area yet today. I simply adore cumdumps ... men who've recognized who and what they are, dealt with all the baggage, and have the courage to act on their perversions.

Wow .... you really did your utmost to conform. Thank Whatever that you're finally free of convention, expectations of others, and able to live your own life. Congrats !!!

You and I are two peas in a pod, Johnjohn. I too have little bodily hair, so of course I love the hairy Holes on otters. The attraction could extend to bears too, but I don't find obesity very enticing. Conversely, I have little interest in fucking guys that remove their bodily hair. It's as though they're trying to appear like women, and that's a real turn-off for me. Thick, curly/kinky body-hair feels so fine when I lie on them while rutting. I particularly love a really hairy Hole, in that it holds the loads off previous Cocks in place for my dining pleasure, instead of running down their balls onto the floor. In my book, an otter cumdump burning with Lust for raw Cock/loads is as good as it gets !! I guess we tend to love that which we don't possess ourselves.

Neither have I. That said, I did find some Gun Oil lube when I was cleaning out a closet in the slingroom - it must have been brought here at some point because some guy particularly wanted me to use it. If I did, it was surely after eating the Hole - not before. I don't care for the taste of commercial lubes. Phony baloney = yuck.

Per the original question, how about a hungry, pleading look in his eyes, and a hint of a smile on his lips?

Woolen tube socks? How a guys lips look when he's blowing bubbles with bubblegum? Wow !!! Don't walk ....... run !!!!

Thanks for the posts, rawflipfuck & analmik. We'll be waiting to hear more from both of you !!

Not quite, meetme. There are not a lot of reliably Democratic areas, but there are a few. Notably, Broward County, in which Fort Lauderdale is located. Miami Dade isn't a bastion of hatreds, it's a huge population center full of all kinds of folks of every tradition and political view. Yes, farther north there are some hellish areas (The Villages, for instance), and they're steeping in their own hatreds. But saying the whole state is "full of hate and culture wars" is just not accurate. Yes, we have a pimply-faced prick of a Governor, mostly because in the last gubernatorial election the Dems ran a rather flawed candidate. Yes, we have plenty of problems to deal with, but there are people of good-will here too.

Phillip !!! Glad you returned, albeit with not such great news. Very sorry to know you've been through the STD mill, but I'm happy you've found a loving relationship based on reality and honesty. There are a lot of guys in your same boat, and I hope you keep checking in here on BZ. You can offer substantive discourse based on reality and experience, and what's more appreciated that that? 😉

Well, business is business, I guess. Charge what the market will bear.

Well, eventually every Cock pulls out .... but I can't remember being asked, either ...

When we relocate for some reason or another, it's good to bear in mind what the "benefits" might be in the new burg. If our work requires X location, well - not much to do about that I guess. But if one has choices to make ,try to find out as much about the seamier side of the prospective location in advance of making a decision. Even better, schedule a week or so in the prospective new location for a little fuck-cation and stick your Cock in the waters to see juuuuust how hot it really is. That's what I did before leaving Chicago - it' different here in Ft. L., but not all that different. No complaints in the more base requirements, and nothing but disappointment in the cultural life in Ft. L. But, I had all of that for decades; CSO, Art Institute,, Lyric, A number of superb legitimate theatre, and I don't regret it. There was better legit theatre out in the neighborhoods than there is here. On the other hand, there's plenty of raw sex, there's no winter here, and I love that. Permanent Summer !!!

Usually only at the bars/fuckjoints .... This would be mostly other Tops that have attended the parties/orgies that I've attended, shared Holes with, etc. I'm a bit embarrassed to say that I seldom recognize bottoms by their faces.