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Actually, I think that sexual orientation is something that's inborn in us. It may take years to bubble up to the surface (to your religious comment), and depending on how steeped in that bullshit a kid is, it may never rise to the surface of his consciousness. I think that the control exerted by the hets, the religious, is the "construct". We live (at least here in the US) in a social construct that disavows our legitimacy, and thus our humanity, all based upon our sexual identity. They exert cultural control, and choose to disparage us, repress us, consider us 'less-than' themselves. Nice belief-system, huh? About the farthest thing from the belief-system they - like the proverbial "noisy gong" - loudly claim for themselves.

Actually, I like it (just DAD - "Daddy" not so much).

Do ex-pats count?

If wishes were horses (and some are - horse-Cocked, I mean), we'd all be doing everything we want to do. How about collecting/freezing your own loads as you jack off? Elsewhere in other threads I've described a cool way to collect, store them. I suppose your own loads aren't as exciting, but at least you'll know what to expect when the opportunity presents itself. Why not try it, Marky ... you already know you want to ....

Well, put that embarrassment aside, as it's only productive as a potential inducement to alter your thinking. Congratulate yourself for arriving at a new level of understanding, and keep asking yourself questions. And, trying out those new answers with active use. Embarrassment is a great motivator, but what really counts is what happens after that particular realization comes. Congrats !!! 😉

I can't say I try to count .... also, can't say I see the point of it ....

Of of my regular answers, when someone asks me why I fuck exclusively raw, is "You mean there's some other way to fuck???" I haven't heard that line about cleanliness in ages ... That usually cuts the chatter, and gets down to the fucking.

Welcome to the whole bunch of you guys !! We're happy you've joined us, and look forward to hearing our thoughts on the various "threads", i.e. subject matter. As you can see, there are many different threads, some will be more to your liking than others, so be sure to add your voice to the various conversations. We want to hear from each of you guys.

I'd guess that NorthEastern Illinois would be one consideration. The remnants of the old Daley Machine are still strong enough to keep Springfield blue, and Chicago will probably be an oasis for Liberals for a number of years to come. The lake breeze is almost always present, which is delighful in the summer. Winter though, can be a depressing series of cold, dark, short days. Some neighbors (boys) are considering Nicaragua ... but I don't want to pull up roots and move again. And I don't want to have to learn another language either. Everything's up in the air ..............

There are those who believe that the "basic" cause was a clash between opposing economic systems, one agrarian (which was also based on slave-labor) and an industrialized system in the North. According to some, the issue of slavery was used to drum up support for the Union cause, and demonize the South for enslaving others. If we look at a map of each side in that struggle showing railroad (i.e. supply lines), it's seems that mere lack of logistics would have ensured a Southern defeat. I'm not commenting on the validity here, I do clearly remember a history professor once saying something to the effect that the Civil War was merely a conflict between economic systems, and nothing more. I rather doubt that, but then I'm not a history professor either.

Last night. There were two bottom best-friends, side by side in the darkroom @ Slammer. One I had Bred 2,3, weeks ago, and he was a fantastic fuck. Fair-haired, smooth, seemingly a really nice guy with a tight Hole that took a while to even get my tongue into. The first time a couple weeks ago, I told him what a fantastic Hole he had, but he had to take a few Cocks first before I could get in there, and said I'd be back in a while. Rutted down the lineup of Holes on the fuckbench, then out to the orgy room for a while, rutted in some more Holes, and maybe 45 minutes later stopped back to the darkroom. He was in the same place, I knelt down and ate his now well-fucked & Bred Hole, and got in easily. Leaned over onto his back and told him what a hot Hole he has, he seemed delighted, fucked him full of my load, and left. Last night he was there with his buddy - dark complected - thick curly black hair, hairy Hole, and also a seemingly nice guy. His Hole was very tasty, and he'd taken a couple of loads already. When blondie told me this was his friend, and they went load-hunting together, I thought I'd move the action to a booth, and I knew which one I wanted. There are booths w/gh's in the corridor guys have to use to get to and from the orgy room, and I said we're going over to a different room. They followed ... In that booth, there are gh's on both side-walls, so I positioned them, ass up, each with his Hole against a gh. Somehow the door never got closed either (!), so there was a constant flow of guys walking to/from the orgy room. As I was rutting in one, the other was either sucking a Cock through the gh or bent over taking it up the gut. It was a little bit tight in that booth, but other guys managed to squeeze in the open door and join in. When I was getting close, I put the 2 Breed boys side by side, and rutted a last few times in each - a thrust for one, then a thrust for the other, and each got some of my load. I thanked them, told them what a hot pair they were, but they couldn't answer around the other Cocks they were sucking off. Hope I run into those two again; they were fun !!!

Well said. Example: When the adventurism of "containment of communism"* ended in SE Asia, the church we virtually grew up in sponsored many families of Laotians to come to our city, jobs, homes were found for them, classes in English were held, and hundreds of families wound up coming to town. So, kudos to the church for that outreach - it's what the Universal Message is all about. The "integration" into local society was engineered, and it seemed the "right and proper" thing to do. The difference was however, a tiny minority of them were actually integrated into the social construct. My mom taught English classes, yet I have no recollection of ever seeing a Laotian in our home. Maybe that happened after I went away to school, but ... There were no Af/Am's on the East side of town. Only Northern Europeans, and their descendants. All the other racial, socio-economic groups lived on the West side. The closest I came to "the other" was seeing them out the car window in the event we were going over to the next town about 45 minutes away to visit relatives. But, that outreach was at least something .... *addendum: may Robt. McNamara, who begged and cried for forgiveness as he lay dying and received none, be rotting in whatever hell he created for himself.

I completely agree. I have a lot of gear from Mr. S., and it's always First Class. As far as Leather gear goes, go for the quality sources. Cheap, knock-off junk will turn no heads - the quality suppliers product always turns heads. I have a pair of Leather cargo-style pants that only Tchukon (not sure of that spelling) and I own; they only made 2 pair. Bought them many years ago at IML, and they're always well-received. There's also NorthBound Leathers in Canada, and their gear is very good quality. Of course, nothing beats VK-79 out in Karow, just N of Berlin.

Which is, of course, the "real" function of gloryholes, per the original post. They remove the other senses, concentrating everything only on the Cock or Hole. When it comes right down to it, who cares if the guy you pass walking down the street is one of them?

In Ft. L., there's a Home Depot over on Sunrise & 4th, nicknamed "Homo" Depot because of the action there. A while ago I had to buy a new outdoor rug for the patio, and the employee showing me what they had suddenly started showing me what HE had ... (inside his pants, I mean). Lewd grin, looking at mine (also in my pants), blah blah blah. But, I had other stuff to get done, so I just thanked him for his help and bought the rug. Any guy that can't get laid over there just isn't trying .....

Yes, those apply to some guys, but not all of them to every Top. Some guys like a tight Hole, and need to Breed it. Some guys love a well-Bred Hole, and can't not fuck it. All of those on the list do occur, but not every Top holds all of them.

Go to fuckjoints where no one uses condoms. I haven't seen a bagged Cock in the joints I hit for years.

So do I ... I've been all over the world, and didn't even know it !!! I don't need the DullSantis Death Squads coming up my driveway ....

For me, clean is an absolute requirement. I don't want to pick up a bug just for the momentary added pleasure. No preparation, no Cock (at least not mine ...).

I've thought of Piss as a surrogate for Sperm - an appetizer, maybe an "introduction" - for many years - certainly outside the context of a Bd/Sm scene. The inclusion of Piss in a Breeding scene implies previous preparations, since not every guy is as magnificently dedicated to "the connection" as t.s.g. clearly is. In the context of a Leather Bd/Sm scene, Piss is mostly a statement of possession, to both the boy and any other's present. So cool how guys interpret a sexual act differently !!!

We're in tandem, atlfuckbud .... it's an amazing way to "enter" the bottom, but I always do a "sniff-test" first. Not that it's an infallible test - it isn't. But it does offer an indication of who's serious and who isn't. There's an amazing "connection" - "bonding" experience available while your mouth is exploring a raw Hole. If other Cocks have been rutting/Breeding it already, so much the better.

Tomorrow night, then ... Hope you have one helluva good time !!!

This ^ is worthy of a bit of a deeper dive. As a man who lived in Northern Illinois for most of my life, now living in FL these past dozen+ years, I would hazard that in the South, the racism is far more blunt, obvious, and in-your-face. However, racism runs deeply and silently in the North as well. Quietly - as on cat's paws - subtly - like a deep, underground river that all drink from in one way or another. The shame is so deeply buried that most don't recognize that they're as racist as anyone else. Northerners would not hesitate to deny their racism, which makes it all the more insidious. But it's there. Here in South Florida, it's easy to make a foul face and turn away as a ratty old pickup with the Stars and Bars flying freely rattles by. That kind of bold hatred doesn't exist in the North, but the subtle, quiet acceptance of White Privilege surely does. Thanks for your reply, JimInWisc,

Well, I did say I'd help in any way I can ......... 😈

I am reminded of an interview of that cop's mother in Minneapolis when Mr. Floyd was so brutally murdered. This homely old woman, long, dirty, stringy long hair, unkempt clothing - the very portrait of trash - spent the entire interview crying about how wonderful her son is, what is she going to do now that he's going to the clink, on and on and on - entirely about her miserable little tiny life. And, breathtakingly, not one syllable of mention - let alone apology - to the Floyd family. It was all about the wretched old crone's loss, and nothing at all about the filth he was raised with. It never even occurred to her that her White Privilege-encrusted son was so besotted with his assumed and taught hatreds, it never ended her traileresque mind to offer a whisper of condolences to the family of the man her son murdered in ice-cold blood. Simply breathtaking. Point: The depravity of White Privilege - carefully taught from generation to generation, has sunk into the minds of Caucasian Americans to the extent that without the conscious effort to pull this foul weed of racism out by the roots, actually do something to make amends, this curse - brought upon this nation by our Caucasian forebears - may very well cause it's destruction. The depravity of White Privilege has soaked into the so-called "religious" institutions they cling to, the social construct of their neighborhoods, their friends and associates, into everything. Whether they live in mansions or dirt-floored trailers, it's all of a kind - the same anti-human filth that this country was built (literally) upon. DeathSantis is so bold about perpetuating this crucial, critical fault, he actually is (apparently) considering a run for President, his campaign based not on ameliorating the problem, but tripling down on the worst of the worst. Cheeto-head is not even close to intelligent enough to do that, but DS is. We must vote while we still can,