Sex with straight guys

[bluedragon]

Look at what's happening to porn. The big studios who were marketing themselves on their 'straight', occasionally 'curious' stars (Sean Cody, Corbyn Fisher) are now claiming much less often that their stars are straight, while other stars of those studios are now allowed to be openly gay.  Porn performers who would have been straight 20 years ago are now labelling themselves pansexual or bisexual. Meanwhile, attitude surveys confirm Generation Z is the gayest generation in history., and the most liberal about sexuality.

In other words, the straight guy fetish - which @rock-cock-jock probably correctly identifies as the result of growing up in a homophobic environment - is losing popularity as those environments become less homophobic.

As someone who doesn't particularly have a straight guy fetish, i've still been propositioned by various straight-identified men, including friends of mine, like most gay men have. There's no doubt there's an appeal in 'conquering new territory' so to speak. I always put extra special effort into blow jobs, because it is so easy to tell that none of the women in their lives have ever had a clue how to suck them properly before.

[chargedodger]

I adore men whov;e never been orally pleased by another man before.

[CumBustion]

Even spaghetti, which starts out straight, will bend when it gets hot. I think everyone, to some degree, have it in them to be bi/gay. Some are 99.9% str8 and may never act on it even if the thought has crossed their mind. 
 

And I agree that some are more apt to act on their urges if drunk or high. Back in college, I remember some jocks and fuck boys, who constantly bragged how much pussy they were crushing, were closet cases that loved taking the D, or at the very least, liked a warm mouth and ass of a dude on their cock. 
 

Sadly, because of cultural or religious mores, some will never fulfill their true urges, or if they do, feel ashamed. I remember this one basketball player that I fucked with from time to time. He was very closeted and tried very hard to sublimate his feelings for men. When he couldn’t hold it down anymore, I’d be one of the few that he turned to for release. He always Topped but I think it was because he must have felt bottoms are somehow “gayer.” He definitely like his hole rimmed and fingered, and I know he owned buttplugs and dildoes. This one time, after he nutted down my throat, he suddenly freaked out. He slapped me and told me to get the fuck away from him. I later heard he tried gay conversion therapy and some other bullshit to pray the gay away. Years later, he reached out to my on FB and apologized.  He explained that his family is a deeply Southern and religious (and he’s also Black, which did play a factor in his shame). He came to terms with his feelings and is now married to another man. 

[ronnie4u]

Ever straight guys thinking of guys sucking dicks - looking forward - experiences of males looking to suck dicks - curious - anxious - to get experienced ?  My suggestion to visit a good , well know , gay club - have cold drinks - music and snacks - maybe a band !

Visited the place several times - chatting - meeting other males - become friends - there style - visit the bath room several times -  thinking the BEST way getting experienced - especially be invited to party's !

[rock-cock-jock]

5 hours ago, CumBustion said:

He explained that his family is a deeply Southern and religious (and he’s also Black, which did play a factor in his shame).

So yeah, this is gonna be a strong religion rant. I believe wholeheartedly that religion is overwhelmingly the greatest cause of mental trauma, inclusive of all its related negative effects, in the gay community, and possibly some in the straight spectrum as well ever. Taking just Christianity alone, the long term macro effects of fucking up young gay kids' minds are easily visible and predictable just looking at the direct cause and effect on a psychological level. Basically, the general approach most places use for religion has been to just thoughtlessly accept and encourage whole-heartedly the large scale spread of a flawed, completely non evidence-based framework that implements multiple cult-related psychological tools to do several incredibly impactful things in the way people view themselves and society, namely 1) dictate correct accepted behaviors and values for living life 2) significantly influencing an entire society's moral compass  3) creates a system of rules in the way an individual attributes purpose and meaning to their lives (using completely bogus concepts such as the soul and heaven and hell). And tbh if things just stopped there and at a limited degree, religion could be useful for keeping society somewhat orderly, though at the cost of deeply undermining all the individuals' understanding of reality and also undermining their rational thinking with shitty concepts like faith. But no, here's the rub, after dictating such a foundational and integrative basis of viewing the world in each young Christian kid, it then tosses in targeted attacks at the gay community: With the concept of 'sin' it directly tries to shift the perceived cause of homosexuality from what is really a biologically derived heritable trait (or rather a series of quantitative traits to be exact; with limited environmental modifiers) to a sanctionable social behavior that makes the individual the culprit of a condemnable set of behaviours of which he had no choice (because gayness is an inherited biological trait) and in additionfor further spite also saw fit to attach a range of descriptors such as "impure" "ungodly" "unnatural" that poisons the individuals' self identity. If you are a Christian kid brainwashed to believe that religion is the most important thing and must follow its rules and that then discovers he is gay, I feel like you don't need to be a rocket scientist to foresee the road of shame, lowered self worth, depression, dissociation from reality ergo substantial mental trauma.

There's a bias that people assume that just because Christianity, and religions in general, are based on morally good values like truth, charity,  righteousness etc that the entirety of its effects on a society must also be 'good', and it's sacredly protected from criticism but that's ridiculous. Religion has always been used as a social control tool and the fact that we're still allowing it without any regulation to brainwash significant portions of a population to a completely warped view of reality using several arbitrary guidelines that have not been empirically tested as well as a framework riddled with concepts not based in reality is quite frankly the greatest injustice that we have done and perpetuated for ages to a population's mental health. 

Honestly, if I had a kid that I suspected may be gay I'd keep him far away from religion. Poisoning a person's view of himself and how he can fit into the world around him may not be something he's even aware of at the time but you don't need to think hard to realize that it can compromise a huge chunk of the rest of his life

Fuck religion. Humanity is honestly better off without it, especially if you're gay

fyi

[think before following links] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Cassady-Pitt/publication/327043826_Shaping_Attitudes_About_Homosexuality_The_Role_of_Religion_and_Cultural_Context/links/5b74d65592851ca65063c61a/Shaping-Attitudes-About-Homosexuality-The-Role-of-Religion-and-Cultural-Context.pdf

Edited March 1, 2022 by rock-cock-jock
added link

[hungry_hole]

On 2/15/2022 at 8:22 PM, rock-cock-jock said:

I think every single gay guy fantasizes about straight cock,

I really don't care if the guy is straight, top or bottom. As long as I get his cum deep in my hole.

But I like having sex with straight guys because of how they react after shooting their load. At the sauna one guy was surprised about how nice a man's hole was, after cuming fairly quickly. I once met with Peter who was after my ass. We eventually met and right after breeding me he told me that he was getting married the following week. Maybe he was thinking of my hole on his wedding night.

I think that what straight guys like best is the availability of sex with men.

[Pnpguyny]

On 2/17/2022 at 6:05 PM, PigBoyDallas said:

rock-cock-jock I think you nailed it there. I don't go out seeking straight guys/boys, but they seem to key into me, or I put out some vibe or attitude they like or connect with. things with me that they can't with anyone else. 

I have found honesty in normal surroundings really works. I started talking to a dusty highway worker one day I saw he had a wedding band on and in the course of the conversation he asks if I'm married, I told him "no I'm gay".  He is quiet and then says "I heard you guys get into guys like me working type guys"? I said "definitely could get into you anytime". In 5 minutes we were in his truck and I got a mouthful of cum. We hooked up a few times, he said his wife gives him all the pussy he wants but is terrible at head. I also wanted to mention the current kids coming out do not have the same idea of sex most of us do. There is not the gay/straight labels its sex and if they want it they do it. A buddys 16 year old son is open about getting sex from both sexes and is not embarrassed or shy about it. The thing that really blew my mind was my friend has 2 nephews (her 2 brothers sons). First the 16 year old comes out to his parents without any reservations and months later her other brothers 14 year old son brings a friend home and tells his parents they are dating. Both families were fine with it.  I think its great they are so adjusted im in my 20s and when I was 17 and sick of my fathers asking why I don't have a girlfriend, I came out to him and he almost dropped dead. 10 years later its still a sore subject with him but my mom and brother could care less.  Some other time I will share some funny stories my brother told me that made him think I was gay as a kid.

[poztwinksrhot]

13 hours ago, CumBustion said:

This one time, ..., he suddenly freaked out. He ... told me to get the fuck away from him. ... his family is deeply ... religious. He came to terms with his feelings and is now married to another man. 

One of my early relationships was with a guy who grew up in a very religious household, and it went very similarly to the poster's description (or at least my edited version).  It affected me deeply, and I'm sure that it affected him as well, although I never talked with him afterwards, just heard through the grapevine that he eventually came out after moving away.  Religion can indeed be a very harmful influence on LGBT youth.

 

8 hours ago, rock-cock-jock said:

So yeah, this is gonna be a strong religion rant. I believe wholeheartedly that religion is overwhelmingly the greatest cause of mental trauma, inclusive of all its related negative effects, in the gay community...

Even though I had a relationship destroyed by it, I can't fault all religions.  I grew up in a time that was far from LGBT-friendly, and the rainbow flags you see flying outside certain churches today didn't exist.  I was brought up in a protestant Christian environment, and in the denomination I attended, homosexuality (and pretty much sexuality in general) was rarely talked about from the pulpit.  This was in the late 70s and early 80s around the time that the Moral Majority (or as I referred to them, the Immoral Minority) was starting to take hold in the South.  I certainly had my problems coming to terms with being gay (which I largely did much later in life), but most of those problems had to do with my own internal repression, and with fears of what my peers would say (or possibly do) if I were found out.. The church and the scriptures were the least of my worries.  At least that's my recollection of it.  However, the bf that I mentioned earlier grew up (ten years later) attending a different church with different teachings, and it messed him up royally.  I also have to give credit to our pastor, who I came out to, and who (without any judgement) helped me through the emotional wreckage of that failed relationship.  So yeah, it depends tremendously on your personal experience, and the teachings of the particular church, and of their local and national leaders.

Today, it's much more hit and miss.  Certain denominations openly and loudly embrace the LGBT community and march in Pride parades, and others still preach that it's the devil's work.  Fortunately, there's more of the former, and less of the latter than there used to be.  However, the latter is where I hope that the LGBT children growing up in that environment can get out as quickly as possible.

[rock-cock-jock]

@poztwinksrhot Yes, that's a very fair criticism and I can relate to your comment alot. Indeed, you're right, many gay guys myself included, would consider their overall past experiences  with a church and the people there to be overwhelmingly positive and there would be great variation across experiences and impact and such depending on culture etc etc. But to be clear, these individual experiences are more of a micro level characteristic. My criticisms of religion are really how its design and influence have played out on a macro scale affecting so many people's choices and perspectives to such an extent that it shapes public perception and public policy based on its framework and not necessarily for the better but also to do shitty things like undermine the personhood of the entirety of the gay demographic. All I'm saying is given that religion has such a  tremendous effect on a population's mentality, even if it may not be apparent  on an individual level, why isn't it at least regulated or controlled to some extent? The national curriculum of Canada undergoes many rounds or review and rewriting and updating based on constantly updating research with the students' best interest in mind. If you can consider it to be a similar enough concept of shaping how a population thinks, then the same level of assiduousness should have been applied to all learning outcomes from the church , including all the more dangerous, nonsensical ones, like maybe the one demonizing homosexuality.But also others, like maybe all the divisive mechanisms such as the bizarre 'us (people of god)vs them' (sinners of god) dynamic used in the crusades and other religious wars that made it easier to hate other ppl. Or maybe just stop undermining established scientific paradigms like evolution without any evidenciary basis.  

Ok, am not gonna rant about this anymore. It doesn't even have much to do with the straight guy fetish topic at all.

[hntnhole]

23 hours ago, rock-cock-jock said:

So yeah, this is gonna be a strong religion rant.

I take no issue whatsoever with your "rant", rock-cock-jock.  

That said, it seems that humanity has - since we crawled out of the caves - felt some urge to seek some sort of Spirituality content to our existence.  It is that urge/need/whatever that Organized Religion has taken advantage of, for it's own institutional advantage.  Thus, we need to take care not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater", as the old saying goes.  

Spirituality is a quality that cannot be taken away from humanity, it has merely been thoroughly and deeply co-opted by peddlers of magic, the supernatural, ineffectual rituals, on and on.  Having been raised in the kind of religiosity you describe, but also blessed with an inquiring mind and perhaps some small measure of intelligence, an independent streak up my spine, I to have rejected these antiquated notions in favor of a personal quest for spirituality.

There have been numerous "great teachers" on the issue of gaining a measure of Spirituality throughout human history, and what they have in common, is that all of us are equally imbued with intrinsic worth.  We all have choices to make about how we want to live our lives, and what kind of values we choose to include or exclude.  Today, reading works of depth, writers of honest inquiry, non-traditional (but equally valid, or even more-so) texts, books, articles will help guide us on our Spiritual Journey.  

Thus, you and I are of one mind in rejecting the bs peddled by O.R., and the thing we can't forget is that there are other ways to Connect with Spirituality.  All we need to do is open our minds, and our Spiritual understanding will increase throughout our lives.  

[bluedragon]

Story time! I fucked a straight-identified guy once, and I had a very interesting conversation with him..

There I was in the sauna on the lookout when a guy comes up to me, youngish and quite nice looking, and asks me if I want to go and get a cabin, adding "I'm a sub". Well, ok, a little more direct than I'm used to in those kind of places but sounds like fun, I'm in. So I get to the cabin and the guy assumes the position facing down, and I don a condom (sorry, but trying to be as honest as I can in this story, and this was some years before I started barebacking). I try to penetrate him but it's too painful for him and I have to stop. I wonder if this is actually going to happen and if I'm going to stay hard through several failed attempts. But next time I make it inside him successfully and start to fuck.

I'm not a fan of bottoms trying to 'top from the bottom' by any means, but you've got to show some response, and this guy had nothing. He lay there as I fucked him, not really responding or making much noise, uninterested in me kissing the side of his head. hmmmm, I guess he's not really into this. I was expecting an underwhelming experience to wind down, but then he asked me if I was going to come, and if I could come while still inside (he didn't think I was bare). Well, I'm quite accommodating, I'll give it a shot - and to my surprise, I found I could probably come, so picked up the pace. This guy went wild - moaning super load, shouting out "OH YES OH YES COME ON" making everyone else in the place jealous of us.

So, I came, and pulled out, and we cooled off for a bit. The thought came into my head 'this guy is straight'. Partly due to his unusual cruising behaviour, partly due to the rather strange disjointed sex we had just had. So i asked him, and he confirmed he was. We talked for a bit and he tried to explain it. He said that when he saw a beautiful woman walking down the street he got this punch in the gut feeling of desire, and he didn't get that with a man. His thing was being fucked - I guess it was in some way psychological? Every now and then he felt that he had to get fucked, would go to a place like we were in and find someone to do it, i think it didn't matter much who. He was thinking about leaving but knew that he wouldn't be able to stop thinking about getting fucked if he didn't do it.

So i don't know what to call that guy, not entirely straight obviously but more with an attraction to the idea of being penetrated or dominated than to the man doing it? For what it's worth I've read posts by guys like that on reddit: attracted to the dick only, not the rest of the guy.

 

So, make of that what you will.

[rock-cock-jock]

8 hours ago, hntnhole said:

Spirituality is a quality that cannot be taken away from humanity, it has merely been thoroughly and deeply co-opted by peddlers of magic, the supernatural, ineffectual rituals, on and on.  Having been raised in the kind of religiosity you describe, but also blessed with an inquiring mind and perhaps some small measure of intelligence, an independent streak up my spine, I to have rejected these antiquated notions in favor of a personal quest for spirituality.

Yeah man I totally agree and I've thought about this as well. It depends on how you define 'spirituality'. Rather than any sort of mysticism, you could interpret it as a 'search for meaning' on a deep, personal level (as you mentioned, a sense of intrinsic worth). Since people can find meaning in all sorts of things, all sorts of things can be spiritual. Even for an atheist like me then, spirituality could be apparent as principles like: relying on only evidence and logic to discern what is 'true' and 'real' in my world or 'an understanding of self and perception through a deterministic lens'.

 

2 hours ago, bluedragon said:

So i don't know what to call that guy, not entirely straight obviously but more with an attraction to the idea of being penetrated or dominated than to the man doing it? For what it's worth I've read posts by guys like that on reddit: attracted to the dick only, not the rest of the guy.

yeah dude I've noticed this for some straight guys too. Cock fixation is definitely a thing

[cockfun69]

Judging by some of sex toy ads, some straight guys love to be fucked by a dildo/strapon from their wife.
But no interest in the 'real thing'. Many don't want the intimate scenes like kissing but will jack off in male groups.
Takes all sorts to make the world go round .. but I try to find guys that want the whole hole experience 😄

[bluedragon]

I remember reading a quote from a female porn star, i forget her name, who was big on Only Fans. One time she decided to mix things up and record a scene with a guy with a smaller dick, but she got flooded with complaints. All from straight men.

[PendragonSpirit]

Honestly, every straight guy I've ever hooked up with approached me, not vice-versa. And all of them were friends/close acquaintances prior to doing so. I think a lot of guys are open to the idea of doing something with another guy, whatever their sexuality, but they're more comfortable with someone they know, trust, and can count on to keep things just between them.

At least, that's my running theory.