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Fuck yeah, that is so hot! To me, the Top/bottom dynamic is in part about how the Top creates, effects, controls the bottom. Making His bottom piss himself to me is along the lines of making His bottom orgasm, it's all about the Top exercising His power that 'makes' His bottom do something beyond his control because he has lost his control to the Top. That submission and loss of control is a huge part of sex for me.

i love the idea and intent behind hypnosis. Even if it doesn't work, i love the intent and desire expressed if a Dom uses such things.

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Look him straight in the eye and tell him "i really just want it fucking raw...." i agree with others, we cannot "ensure" another persons response or feelings. But really, if he is 'joking' about it too, He likely wants it as badly as you do, the most you can do is tell Him you want His cum deep inside of you.

For those interested, here's some info on "implicit bias" and tests you can take at Harvard to gauge your self. When is the last time a stereotype popped into your mind? If you are like most people, the authors included, it happens all the time. That doesn’t make you a racist, sexist, or whatever-ist. It just means your brain is working properly, noticing patterns, and making generalizations. But the same thought processes that make people smart can also make them biased. This tendency for stereotype-confirming thoughts to pass spontaneously through our minds is what psychologists call implicit bias. It sets people up to overgeneralize, sometimes leading to discrimination even when people feel they are being fair. [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-think-about-implicit-bias/ [think before following links] [think before following links] https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html

Couple of thoughts. i agree with others who identify averages, cycles. i encourage you to keep putting yourself out there, but altering expectations. The truth is, we don't know what we're going to get when we put our self out there. While age and looks factor in, they are not the only factors and i find it's a mistake to put to much weight on them. I really believe other factors are more in play. To me, places like saunas or gay events are some of the hardest places to get sex. If i were a Top spending $30 at a sex club, i'd get very selective and wouldn't want to shoot immediately and just go home. From what you describe, this was an event and was more social than sexual. For me, those venues are very hit or miss. i go to a all gay resort in Palm Springs on a regular basis and some days while i'm there are awesome and some sexless. And PS is a gay Mecca lol. If you get discouraged and give up, you'll miss the on days though. If i am feeling very horny and cum dumpy, i get most of my quick and easy loads at an ABS during lunch or when guys are getting off work. i find most of the guys who frequent these places at those times just wanna get off on their way home. It's not unusual for me to take half a dozen cocks in a half hour or so. It's a different crowd and many are there to simply get off, not find the man of their dreams.

Can't wait till he gets to the part where he kills Han Solo.

For those interested in anatomy and physiology, here's some info. Our whole intestinal tract has cells lining it that provide different function. There are cells called "goblet" cells that produce the mucus we are talking about here. Those cells are particularly active rectally and their production of mucus is a direct result of stimulation. Their function is to protect the absorptive process and to help facilitate elimination. It makes sense that the penetrative stuff we do would result in the stimulation of these cells and the subsequent increased production of mucus in our rectums.

i feel sad if cum isn't put inside of me by a Top, on me feels like a waste. Even though i know i can still eat it, it's just not the same to me if my Top didn't put it inside of me. i do go long periods without cumming myself, and edge a lot to keep horny. When i shoot it often shoots onto my face... sometimes the headboard above my heat lol. my cum is the only cum i don't feel badly about not going into me.

Now i'm curious. Will you describe a "chick version" of yourself that you'd fuck and possibly date?

nah. i even have a hard time using toys on myself, i'm way to bottom to fuck and breed myself. On a side note, i have found it funny how often gay couples look alike.

i wonder if Domming ever has to be "mean?" i know some guys have masochistic needs/desires and some sadist needs/desires, and i know those ofter overlap into the D/s dynamic, but i can also see S/m as separate from D/s. i guess i associate "meanness" with sadism, but i don't see it as a vital component of Dominance. i think one's definition of "mean" might further mystify this. For instance, i see some forms of humiliation as mean, and others are deeply erotic and a turn on for me. Maybe one mans "mean" is another mans "meat?" Maybe this is all individual and part of the challenge of a successful D/s connection/tethering is the Dom finding that place to tether and knowing how to do it? i suppose there are basic methods and 'rules,' but it's not the black or white process some try to make it? i've been effectively regressed by a Dom, and didn't actually put it together until recently that that is what He did. He combined progressive intensity, praise mixed with treating me as a "boy", and the end result was adoration. i guess someone looking on might have viewed how He treated me as "mean," but honestly, all i felt was affection. When i sense meanness, force or bullying, i shut down. But the way He did it, i felt anything but meanness, even though i was both humiliated and uncomfortable from gagging on His cock, eyes tearing, runny nose... i must have really looked like a kid. Your mention of "training" suggests molding, grooming to me... which i think is a power point in many, if not most, subs. Here's something with WS that a Dom wrote to me just yesterday, and i don't know if He knows it, but He collared me with this: I'd love having permanent control of your asshole. At all times there will be some of my cum or my piss inside you -- I'll be sure that you'll always have my dick-deposits deep up inside your ass, all day & all night. I own your asshole -- it's my hole to lick and suck and kiss any time I want to; my hole to fuck and drain my hairy cum-filled balls into; my ass to slide my foreskin so fucking deep into any time I want it; my toilet ass for me to take a piss in; my asshole for me to sniff while I'm feeling your ass cheeks rubbing against my face. We'd sleep with my dick up your ass and my balls resting in your ass crack. Your asshole will always have the scent of my piss and my cum and my sweat on it, Yeah, I've marked your asshole with my scent, and I'll have my dick up your ass any time and anywhere I want.

my take is this is a good example of Top/Dom wiring? i was married (to a woman) for half my life, i had religious constraints to overcome before i could be true to myself and accept being gay. We were pretty much both sub and bottom in our natures, so i was pretty sexually frustrated, but i learned the physiology of how to satisfy her sexually and understood instinctively what she needed/wanted. Controlling her body and pleasure was central to sex. She was totally not kinky, so stuff like ws weren't even a consideration, but i did get a lot of experience as a top and knew how to do it functionally even if i am not one by nature. Having top experience myself and being very drawn to the mental and emotional elements of sex along with the physical, i find myself always looking for others who want to go beyond just a quick dump and run. Dump and run is hot, i'm just an advocate for depth and variety as part of the mix. WS, to me, seems rife with opportunity to expereince the depth of our sexual natures whether we are Top or bottom or somewhere in between. When i read find91's comments, i see that He is a Top/Dom who is in touch with His own needs and wants as well as those of His partners. ^^This^^ (find91's comment) is such a hot example of where i am trying to go with this thread. i really have come to see piss and pee as very similar to cum, with some unique twists thrown in. The fact that find91 enjoys fucking a guy till he pisses himself is evidence of His need/desire to be able to control His bottom. It's also a further type of bodily function that He has taken control of from His bottom, further demonstrating His dominance. For me, something very erotic that ws can have that cum doesn't is the element of embarrassment/humiliation connected to pleasure. That's a huge mind fuck for me when a Top finds ways to evoke submission to humiliation by using pleasure. To me, that is one of the most profound demonstrations of D/s power, and i can see all sorts of ways WS can be used to do that. i love this example, turning pee into part of the orgasm.

lol, i can't believe only one person has responded to this with all the piss lovers on BZ. Maybe because it's Monday? my slutty sub side responds to piss almost as much as cum. i could see a Dom controlling His subs peeing like He controls his cumming. And there's so much potential for control of yet another bodily function that has some sweet humiliation. i can't be the only one who is into all the possibilities of this?

If it is, then You have probably many bottoms, my self among them, who actually long for a Top who will want/need and do this with their bottom fulfilling both their needs and wants in the process. i believe for every Yang there is a corresponding yin. i can imagine feeling my hole dripping as i walk because my Top has made it that way... and that's what i would think and feel, that that is my Tops artwork that He loves. fuck yeah

It's so incredible, words fail to adequately describe this for me. "Totally used [up] and open on the inside" definitely fits. A Top who wants this, it's like He's tunneling into me and making a corridor for Him to get to me. i often think of having places inside of me that are "collaring" points where a Top finds and puts His collar on me and a tether. The look of satisfaction that i see on His face is a huge parr of that collar and tether for me, His words and looks and touch can then be like pulling on the leash He has set. Having an opened hole, especially when He comments on what He has done or how He's made it into His pussy, is like putting a lock on me, locking me open to Him and my gaping hole is His access to my soul. It's fucking profound what can happen with some guys.

Some Tops are sprinters, some are marathon runners. i have some stamina as a bottom, especially when i feel a connect to my Top. A marathon fucker is probably my favorite if i were to vote, which is not to say i don't love the sprinters... i fucking do. i am more internally, emotionally fucked and bred by a marathon Top though. To me it feels like a slow purposeful assault (wrong word) on my hole, slowly a breaking down any resistance and turning my hole into a pussy, opened and sloppy where it becomes harder and harder to squeeze His cock because He's pretty much overcome me and i'm sort of pinned physically and internally subdued and owned.

i can tell (about the "powerful psychological impact) by the way you write about Him and the words you use ("womb"). To me, the most powerful Tops are the One's who alter and possess us psychologically.

i do tough my penis... a lot, but never when i'm with another guy. i use it to edge and ramp up my horniness as a bottom. i frequently go a week to ten days edging using my penis and not cumming. i do like the way it feels cumming from penis stimulation, but emotionally i don't like or want it. i still do, and am disappointed after i cum that way. A Dom/Top can (and have) manipulate that energy to control me and keep me a very horny bottom (i don't need "T" for that). i love the idea of having a Guy who locks my penis. The only time i am really emotionally/internally good with having my penis touched is when a Dom/Top truly relates to it and treats it like a "clit" or "nub" or something obviously different in His mind from the Cock that He has. It's really the distinction that seems to matter? i've had Dom guys who stimulated my "clit" to make me cum as part of their need to control and dominate, but the way they did it was such that i was in a very sub place. It wasn't like i was potent or had something i could use to penetrate with, but they literally treated me like i have a pussy and clit and am not like them, just have a couple of sub body parts they can use to control my pleasure and pleasure Their Self with. Not a lot of guys like that that i have found, but really amazing when it happens. It can be a very effective way to Dom.

i'm a total bottom with a sub streak. i fit into a definite category of "sub" though and don't respond to all guys who identify as "Dom." i think that may be because growing up a lot of Dom boys read me as a sub and i got bullied a lot. i eventually learned how to hide my sub nature in a closet and to this day force or bullying evokes and almost violent reaction in me, i'm not attracted to either. i didn't even see my sub nature until i started meeting what i call "affectionate Doms" who trigger, use and manipulate my sub nature using grooming techniques and other ways to Dom me evoke my sub nature to satisfy Their needs and desires. It's hard for me to resist a guys need/desire for pleasure, and when i perceive that in Him, it opens me up. i've discovered that piss is a strong tool some Doms connect with to Dom Their sub. i've read stories on BZ of a Dom fucking a bottom till he pisses himself, combing pleasure and humiliation that fulfilled a need in both the Dom and sub. i can see so many different ways to do this with piss. For me, a Dom has "piss" and a sub has "urine" or "pee." Don't know why, just a distinction i make emotionally. A Dom's piss is potent, like HIs cum. He can use it to inseminate, impregnate, mark another guy. i see a sub's pee as just waste, but something a Dom can use to fulfill His need to connect and affectionately humiliate His sub. i have fantasized about a Dom subtly finding ways to make me pee myself. For instance, maybe we're together for a day and He keeps making sure i stay hydrated, but also makes sure i don't have an opportunity to relieve myself. It's not something He has discussed with me, just something He orchestrates and does, watching me and realizing me struggle and even mentioning that i have to pee, but finding ways to divert me and keep me from relieving myself without my realizing what He's doing. His goal is to control me and the situation to the point that i can't control it anymore and have to pee. Depending on how we are, it might be me finally saying i can't hold it anymore and making Him listen and acknowledge that i have to pee, at which point He might say with a smile on His face and love in His eyes: "i want you to just let it go, to pee yourself." Or He might say: " I know where there's a restroom" and He starts to lead me to someplace He knows is too far for me to make it in time and i accidentally pee myself. i've also had fantasies (but no experience) of a Dom who grooms me for diapers, which to me has a lot of mind fuck potential. Would love to hear about other ideas both Dom guys and sub guys have for using piss and pee in D/s dynamic to fulfill their needs and desires.

i'm total bottom and there are some twinks who are into older total bottoms, but not all are "experienced." Experience, or really maturity, is important to me. i have a decided sub streak, and most younger guys i have been with, even if they identify as "Dom" don't have the maturity that (can) naturally come with age. But i have learned to not make that an automatic assumption, because it's not always true. i've had some incredible young twink FB's who knew exactly what they were doing and knew how to push all my buttons. The biggest thing for me is attraction. And that's true about any guy i hook with. i don't want any guy fuckng me to compromise. If he's not into me, i don't want him, no matter how much i want. Mutual desire is a primary factor for me, and if i don't sense it, i decline. But "twink" does not mean inexperienced or immature or vice versa. i've encountered plenty of older, immature flakes lol.

i've gotten to a place where mental and emotional connection are a big deal to me and i typically focus, and thus 'feel' thet connection. Once i feel that connect, i seem to fall into rhythm with my Top and as cheesy as it sound, i become one with Him and can go as long as He needs/wants. i had a hot experience i wrote about in "...your last load" thread last week. Had an anonymous walk in breed by a guy while staying at a gay resort in Palm Springs. He had an enormous cock that made me gasp and bite my mattress when He went in. He was self aware of His size and pussy effect and asked me at one point while fucking me "how long can you go?" i guess He was used to guys needing a break? By that time, i was so possessed by Him, the question actually confused me and my only response was to squeeze His cock with my ass. i guess He understood, because He kept going. He was long and He opened and was fuckng (seemed purposeful) my inner hole, which often hurts, and did a little but in a good way. When He did ultimately shoot, He bred me deeply into my inner hole and i could feel His actual semen as He shot into me, something that tis rare for me. i had a prior load in me and ended up keeping both loads through the night and absorbing them both. Damn, it was awesome. Lately i fantasize of Having a guy in me continuously, like a living butt plug. That it feels more natural to have that space filled than to have it empty.

if i'm not mistaken, this Top is the one who gave you the mantra "take Dick?" To me, this is a good example of mind fuck, of insemination and impregnation of your inner emotional/mental being, forming and molding you as His pussy. Pushes my buttons big time.

i've talked to one guy in particular on Recon who wants to make my hole similar to what you describe: i.e., sounds like you have a 'wrecked hole.' There are definitely some Tops /Doms who want that from their bottoms, subs, and all tha goes with it. A diaper can be an erotically humiliating symbol of your wrecked, slut hole. Kind of like the slut bottoms jock, it's an accessory for your package.

i love how you became aware and changed. To me, this is a great example of the connecting that can happen between guys. Your observation that "sex cam be so mechanical at times" is something i purposely try to thwart. i don't always, i take my share of mechanical cock. i have found that i can practice presence in the moment on my side and that sometimes it can be contagious. One of the things that drives me wild is when a Top kisses my neck or shoulders. i've had mostly anonymous walk in sex, where i am lying face down and naked, so i don't typically see my Top and am in a pretty vulnerable position. When a complete stranger is getting into the fuck and just naturally starts kissing my neck or shoulders, my back arches almost reflexively and my ass pushes Him deeper into me, and i literally tremble. These are some of the guys i have to bite my tongue from saying "i love you" too. i think we may be often missing something, that "to humanize" can make sex just that much more sexy and intense. It works that way for me. i think we often leave that out because it takes more time, thought, effort, but i think it's a mistake to make dehumanized sex a habit?