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This pic makes me immediately start salivating and my legs spread. To me, a cock with a PA is like a leash with a collar, putting it in me is collaring me.

Can't imagine a Top or Dom or any guy who needs to use His cock going anything but commando. Seeing a guys cock through His clothes automatically makes me wanna back my ass up into Him.

i used to go commando or boxers, but then i had a Dom for awhile and He was outraged by the idea and insisted that i put my boxers in a bottom drawer of my chest and wear briefs, a jock or thong. It sort of stuck, even after our brief D/s relationship ended. He associated my underwear with being bottom and i haven't lost that association since, sort of feels like a violation to not wear something that contains my penis and accentuates my ass.

this is my slit after years of use and molding by Tops, no longer a pucker

It is possible, i've experienced it a couple of times at an ABS through a GH. Pretty sure it was the same guy both times, but i don't really know because i didn't see Him. It may have something to do with me being pretty well pacticed at retaining a guys semen or piss because i want to absorb all of it, so i am used to keeping everything in. But i also think anatomically i am just built in a way that accommodates retaining. my S curve seem to be such that it retains pretty easily, and the depth of the curve at the junction of my "second hole" seems to be enough to really keep fluid in once it's there. i have to purposely open my second hole with a long dildo while prepping to ensure i am not retaining water. The first time it happened to me, i was surprised. i honestly had no idea i had been pissed in until later at home when i was unable to retain after a few hours and realized after expelling the scent of piss. i sort of had an idea of who did it when i reconstructed it in my mind because He did it gradually. I.e., He go deep and pause momentarily while fucking me and He was long enough to get into my second hole. i even took a few cocks after Him with no leakage, so it was quite a hot surprise on several levels. i suspect what made it possible was He filled me gradually and He was long. What an awesome Top. Oh yeah, i forgot, another guy did this with me in Palm Springs. An awesome Top who came to my room and fucked me for over an hour in every conceivable position. He did a lot of slow, grinding fucking and had a really long cock. i suspect He was another One who pissed continuously in small spurts vs letting it all go at once. i can feel it when a Top just unloads a lot of piss in me at once, so i think the intermittent squirting is also part of how it's done.

i love PA's and have had them up my ass and have sucked a guy wearing one. In neither case was there any physical damage done. Getting permanent damage to my body is never a goal, though i love it when a Top 'marks' my body by purposeful molding or shaving, etc.. For instance, my asshole was purposely molded by a Top to look like a pussy slit instead of an ass pucker, and i love that. i don't relate to guys who want to objectify or be objectified. To me, being with a guy is all about getting as deep a connection with Him as possible, not the opposite that objectification accomplishes. But even with objectification, to me it doesn't make a lot of sense to damage the goods. Kind of like getting a car and breaking the headlights with a baseball bat. i guess i sort of understand even if i don't relate. i love men, Top, bottom or otherwise, and i would never support harming a wonderful faggot, that strikes me as totally wrong even though i get there are guys on both sides of this who are into it.

i agree with the advice you are getting. we guys can eroticize just about anything it seems, and when our hormones are at fever pitch, it seem's we'll consider doing just about anything. But consider, this could do permanent damage, depending on the stranger you do it with. Do you really wanna lose your ability to have take a Top up your ass, even if just for a time? i agree with others, choose a different scenario without the potential for permanent, serious harm.

i've developed a thing where when a Top is getting really excited, cock inflating at that pre orgasm point, if i wanna tease Him a bit and extend His pleasure, i'll take His cock all the way and clamp down on His joint with my teeth. i gauge His response, not hard or hurtful, but enough to get His attention... the amount of pressure is different for everyone, but the response has always been wonder and enjoyment. my teeth are a challenge only rarely on the thickest of cocks.

Hey, thank you for your continued perspective. i'm largely thinking outlaid as i write this stuff, i don't suppose to have it all figured out, and discussion with others is part of the process for me. One of the reasons i am grateful for being gay is because it's helped change my perspective some from my privileged roots. i've been arrested for being a faggot and was charged with a felony using a 100 year old 'sodomy' law. It was 1998, but in VA and even then VA still had 'vice' cops pretending to be gay and cruising at cruising sites to entrap gays. The guy was cute, did the usual gay cruising stuff and when i asked him if he wanted to fuck me, he arrested me. The attorney general at the time (Bob McDonnell) was a rabid homophobe and was out for blood. For me it was a good experience and example of how, even in a liberal era, there are people in power who want to punish and abuse different people. i can hide the fact that i am gay if i want at this point. I.e., i don't 'look gay.' People of color don't have that luxury, so your perspective is different from mine. i can listen and understand cerebrally, even feel rotten for you, but i cannot fully relate to your perspective. i think you raise a great point about fear and power. Some poiice have a history of power abuse towards gays, so i wonder if gays who have police fetish are aroused by that abuse? Do you think the fetish is 'okay?' You have the perspective of someone who has experienced being abused by authority, not as a fetish you sought out. There's a difference when you have a choice. I.e., most guys can choose to pursue this fetish, it isn't forced on them outside their volition. If the appeal is "power and fear," what is the difference between someone who chooses this fetish as a lifestyle and those who experience the power and fear as outside of having a fetish for it? How would a Jewish or Black Man experience nazis as a fetish given the real, non role play history of nazism?

i appreciate your focused answer. i think you are right that both power and fear play a big part, and may be foundational? i don't think we can group nazi's in general with other "Uniformed individuals such as Police and other Military personnel from around the world" with out qualifying the unique evil intent of nazis. nazis and their ss police force were a law unto themselves. One of their primary intents was to be cruel and terrorize. i think one of the missing links between nazi fetishism and what and who the nazis were is their intent and purpose to iradicate 'inferiors', not just use them for their pleasure (which seems to be a driving force with the fetish?). i think a lot of guys who want to be forced to do erotic things want to experience the desire and need of the guy forcing them to do those things. i think that is missing with the reality of nazism. They didn't want to connect and use 'subs', they wanted to identify and destroy groups of people. nazis weren't going after people who had a fetsh for them.

rawsatyr mentioned Cabaret. Love that film, so many layers to it. It also depicts the liberal and progressive culture in Berlin prior to the rise of hitler and nazism. It seems most societies have their polar opposites and what happens is often a result of who's in power. The movie Bent is another powerful depiction of gay experience at the hands of nazis. So many failed to escape Germany before it was to late to do so because they just couldn't fathom that the Germany they had known had changed, the new rulers empowered the already present dark and evil cultures. i appreciate the parallel you draw between religious fundamentalists and nazis. i don't think religion is such a bad thing, and that it can even do some good. Add to it the absolutist attitude of fundamentalism and it becomes pure poison. i grew up in a fundamentalist christian culture, it took me a long time to escape that torturous prison. A few years ago i read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's autobiography, a Somali woman who was raised in fundamentalist islam and later escaped and became an activist as well as a member of Dutch parliament. i was struck while reading her story how many similarities hers had to mine. They had the common thread of fundamentalism. i have no real doubt that people like V.P. pence would toss gays in prison if he had the power. After all, he believes in a god who is going to send all gays to a hell of eternal torture. People who think religious folk are good and kind have never studied the inquisition.

lmao, i love how auto correct changes "S a t a n" to sarah palin

It has no appeal to me. i'm a student of WWII and the era always leaves an rotten feeling in the pit of my stomach. To me, Nazi's were a group of Neanderthal (sorry to Neanderthals for the comparison) bullies. To me, nazi and hitlerism were the embodiment of evil. For me, i can shrug off those who are into devil and Sarah Palin fetish because that represents a mythical character. i give them no credit for intelligence, they were cunning, predatory beasts. Kind of the adult version of Lord of the Flies. hitler and his ilk were real, they wreaked havoc on this planet and i think it is ignorant (at best) to acknowledge or glamorize them in any positive way or by making a fetish out of them. The leather and uniforms is just making silk purse out of a sows ear. To me hitler was a impotent person with no living skills who got ahold of power, a bully. Under hitler and his type, none of us would be here to discuss this.

i just bought some new underwear. In keeping with my sub/bottom persona, they are briefs. i had a Dom at one point who forbade me to ever wear boxers or go commando and even though that relationship is long over, His desires stuck. i looked around for something cute and sexy and settled on Bsheter, they're really colorful and fun. Their video alone made me wanna buy them, check it out: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32966925945.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.7.574288dcoOpBkC

i'm a bottom, and ideally "total" bottom. i also have a sub streak. i don't want my penis touched and want my hole treated as primary sex organ (mouth is secondary). But that all sounds so clinical to me. i think who and how we are is reflected in relationship (even if it's just the hook up kind). Like ErosWired, it too have been frustrated by guys who wanna touch my penis, and i'm very explicit in my profiles about NOT wanting that. When in the actual situation of having sex though, i have submitted to guys touching my penis, but the key word is "submitted." It's not what i want, but i've been known to submit to it to please. i think a lot of us (Tops and bottoms) often miss out on the psychological aspects of sex. If we don't exercise introspection, we don't know much about our self or feelings. If we don't learn how to articulate who and how we are, we don't achieve communication and that makes it really difficult to connect with the guys we need and want? i will all gay guys developed and exercised those skills, but i swear many don't even know they exist lol. Since we are internet inclined, that usually starts with a profile. i don't think Total Tops or bottoms are extinct, just hard to find because they often make themselves invisible by not being clear or open. Most sites make it to easy and have drop down menus for self disclosure. Of course, there's a lot of guys who haven't learned how to read, and just respond to pics, sigh. But i read, and i write epic profiles (i often have to edit them down in fear that i'll scare away guys who hate to read). For me, a good profile is every bit as important as the piece of ass it advertises. i typically skip past the ones saying "Versatile" and even "Top versatile" (but will read them if desperately horny). The guys i pursue are the ones who go beyond the label and describe the contents. If a Top goes beyond the label and writes stuff like: "I'm a Total Top, I don't want to touch your cock, to me you don't even have one. As a Total Top I am the only one in the relationship with a 'cock' and the bottom is there to receive it." That attracts me and i'll respond by contacting you legs spread and ass presented.

People have always fucked and disease has always been around. The crime in my opinion is the stigmatization of sex. We have fucking cures for all of those diseases, and it's not to stop fucking. Society irradiated polio,when a cure was found, by mass treatment. Granted, the treatment was a preventative vaccine, not a disease cure, but there was no stigma attached to treatment, pretty much everyone participated. An algorithm could easily be created to get everyone routinely tested, and treated if necessary, and in time the disease could be significantly reduced. The only missing piece to significant reduction of these diseases in participation in testing and treatment and i posit that everyone getting tested and treated would go a long way to removing stigma. Course, that's not gonna happen as long as sex or being gay is a "sin" or "immoral."

Love the replies to this and how they express our individuality. For me (and i get this is my individual perception), power is manifest in understanding and seduction, not force. Bullies evoke a fighting response in me, whereas affection and a display of need or desire from a Top opens me right up. i don't perceive "need" as weakness. Tops need to penetrate, breed, inseminate and bottoms need to be penetrated, bred and inseminated (the list is long, eh?). It's weird. i get FaceLoad's disappointment and relate to it in a way, but not completely. Personally, i am disappointed when a guy has an embarrassed or apologetic attitude about His need or desire. For me, the most powerful Top is the one who sees that He doesn't have to force or bully me because He knows i need/want Him and He knows how to tap into that. For me, a Top's most powerful tool for tapping into my need to submit is by exposing His own needs and desires. The Top who says something like: "I want to piss in you" or "I need to piss in you," elicits my need and desire to be what He needs and wants. He is not asking permission, He is just revealing Who He is to me and my natural response is to want to fulfill that need/desire. For me, force or bullying is like a denial of my desire/need to submit.

No. i dearly love me some faggots and fellow bottoms. i can easily feel romantically towards another bottom. But i'm practical too. i won't compete with another bottom, i'll wink and smile and let my sweet brother have the Top. i know that is not sustainable for me in a romantic relationship setting, i'd be afraid my own needs would not be met, i'd get hurt and start feeling resentment. i hate resentment so i am purposeful to not put myself in a position that might foster it. If i were to have a ltr of a romantic nature, one of the pre qualifiers is that it be with my polar opposite (i.e., a Top). i'm convinced that working with nature (opposites attract and bond) offers the best chance for a successful relationship of that kind. I'll hug, kiss, sleep with and dearly love another bottom, but it is naturally different from what i can have with a Top. i don't see it as a matter of choice, just reality.

Every time i see the title of this thread, the image in my head is that of a surprise birthday party where one walks in the door to their dark abode after a hard days work and the lights go on and a room full of people shouts "surprise!!" Except now all the people shouting "surprise" are naked Tops with hard cocks instead of other party favors.

For me, it's not the length of the connection that matters, but the connection itself. i've been with guys who went for a long time and my perception was their 'stamina' was related to their lack of presence in the moment. i hate mechanical fucking. Some guys seem to be more impressed by how long they can go than with the fact that they are penetrating another human being. Despite the physical connection, something vital is missing. Quick or fast orgasm always communicates excitement about the connection, so while i might wish it would go on longer, i love the Top dearly for the gift of Him, no matter how brief. A guy who can go 30 minutes and still manage to be somewhere else has failed to fuck by my estimation. The most incredible guys are the ones who can fuck for long periods and be engaged (and thereby engaging) the whole time.

Today at one of the local ABS. 5 loads through a GH. 4 by mouth an 1 in my ass. The first one i'm not even certain was a "load" more like a drip, but i loved it and the man it came from either way. i love the pleasure and satisfaction of the Top even more than the substance of cum. The next two happened in rapid succession, as though they were waiting their turn and neither got hard enough to even present my ass to for breeding. The fourth got rock hard fast, but was short and thick. i sort of begged Him to come into my booth so i could get all of him, the wall impedes. i offered my ass, He withdrew, so i sucked Him a bit longer and He gave me a wonderful load and sigh. The fifth Top was uncut and long enough for His cock to reach down my throat, even with the wall of the GH between us. i ran my tougue under His foreskin and pushed it back with my lips. loving the tip of His cock and then swallowing HIs entire shaft. He was wonderfully hard and girthy and i felt He's enjoy fucking so i slid my hole onto His cock and pressed into Him as He pressed into me. He thrust deep a couple of times and stayed deep, not making a sound, fucked a few more times then withdrew and cleaned up and left. i thought maybe He didn't like my hole, but then felt with my finger and was very creamy. i held it a few hours and felt it leaking out, i have a big wet spot on my sweats and can still feel some inside trying to get out, i refuse to push it out, so I've been holding it in for the last 90 minutes... Kegals are good for several things turns out. i was texting to a dear heart who lives far away and who has stolen a chunk of my heart. i sometimes think i'd be happier with a lover than hook ups. i suspect we look for pieces of substance in numbers and hook ups when we lack one person with those qualities? idk, but i left happy and grateful either way.

Oh yeah, i got my Kegels down pretty well for my hole, and really for controlling my urine flow too. Hot Yoga helped teach me how to control urine flow. The practice is an hour and a half in a 105 degree room at 50% humidity, so one needs to be very hydrated, but you can't leave the room once the practice starts, so i've gotten pretty good and bladder control... that and i'm a nurse and it's common to go for hours without having a break to pee lol.

Thank You, that's good input... i sort of knew that, but didn't want to admit it to myself. i'm a romantic and love the idea of affectionate training. i tasted my urine for the first time the other day, kinda warm and salty.

To me, this speaks of our need to be connected to each other... or maybe more accurately, to find ways to demonstrate our connectedness? i love being at the extreme end of the spectrum of Top/bottom, D/s, because when i find my opposite/s, the connection is just that much more intense and strong (i.e., opposites attract and bond). A Top wanting (needing?) to piss on His bottom is like Him putting HIs collar on the bottom, there is no hiding it and it leaves both the Top and bottom with a feeling of connectedness and completeness on so many levels. i particularly love the emotional element of the Tops pride and the bottoms humiliation, especially when it's done with love and affection. The "mess" to me is more of an expression of honesty and reality than the unmarked clothes and bottom are... to me, being unmarked is like hiding or disguising what really is.

To me, a man with a cock in need of release is always hot and sexy. A look of lustful need in His eyes and i present my hole.