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I totally agree. PrEP can be a "silver bullet" for guys who don't care much about all other STI because they consider them "manageable". But my point was that there many other men for whom STI are not acceptable and for these men PrEP is not a solution. Yes, PrEP is good for some men.

Only certain men can afford being infected with gono, clam or syphilis because for many catching any STD is not an option. Men who are in relationships with women or men who simply don't want any infections. This limits the "recreational" use of PrEP to those who are willing to accept the possibility of other STI.

Avoiding having sex in bathhouses is not a guarantee for STI-free encounters. I'm not sure how you find your fuck-buddies, but once you find a guy you wanna fuck ask him to play with his ass muscles and see if tightening the hole would help. Otherwise, you can always fuck the bottom for a few minutes and I'm sure you still enjoy even without cumming. Then, when you wanna cum, pull out and jerk-off until you are ready to shoot and which time you push it back in and end up breeding the hole. Knowing how enjoyable breeding a hole is may help you with your next fuck. Also, as others have mentioned, stop jerking off and be really horny when you fuck.

Same here. I'm pretty sure that Squirt.org was the first site of this kind. It's been around for many, many years. Squirt.org is very good for finding cruising areas in places when you travel. But it could be much better if guys would stop posting useless information with posts like "I will stop by this bathhouse after work. I hope to find lots of cocks to suck". The Cruising area of Squirt.org would be so much better if guys stopped asking questions that nobody can answer such as "How busy will it be on Friday?", or guys announcing that they will be going as if they thought somebody will now decide to go just because of the announcement. If instead guys related their bad and good experiences at the different cruising venues, then it would be a great place to find-out about good places for sex. But I still like and use it. I have hooked-up a lot with Squirt.org members.

I haven't seen anything else like Breeding Zone with so many different discussions going on and different points of view. In terms of hooking up for raw sex I think is best to use something like Grindr or any other App with Geo-location. When guys are horny they want sex now. But a lot depends on how you look and how appealing you are to the type of men you like having raw sex with. If you are young and fairly good-looking your chances are greater than for someone who is old and out of shape. I say this because it's very difficult to provide tips with so little information. Bathhouses with dark mazes are always good places for raw sex, no matter the age or the way you look.

Too bad you can't really enjoy a hot manhole. Are you cut or uncut? I ask because sometimes guys who are cut need more friction. Try fucking an "experienced" bottom who has a good control of his hole and can apply the friction you require. More stimulation may also help. You are too young so I don't know if you've been to bathhouses. But in these places there is group sex and being watched may help. Or the idea of fucking s sloppy hole already loaded with cum. Stuff like this may help.

I would be #7, because when I go out looking for sex I'm not picky at all. Someone who's been fucked and taken loads in gloryholes is, in my opinion, a true cumdump. In gloryholes no kissing, no body contact, just the cock coming from the other side of the partition, going in and out of your hungry hole until it unloads. Then, the next cock shows up. I would definitely call this a cumdump. I've taken many loads in gloryholes, I even had one in my apartment. So I would consider myself that I have been a cumdump or like being a cumdump at times. Most cumdumps feel proud of being a cumdump and I'm no exception which is why when I go to the bathhouse or cruising park I bring with me a black glow-in-the-dark sign with white letters that say "CUMDUMP" (I have many others, some even in French). I've discovered that it's important in a cruising-for-sex place to present yourself as a cumdump because for some reason the "hole of a cumdump" is so appetizing that even some bottoms are willing to fuck and breed it. With all the competition from other bottoms, presenting yourself as a cumdump also gives you a better chance with those horny guys looking to breed a hole because they know right away that they don't need to discuss condoms with you. I've used these signs for years at the bathhouse. I dim the lights in the room, charge the glow-in-the-dark signs and hang them on the walls. Guy walk by and can read "CUMDUMP" or "Cream my Hole". If nothing else I make myself noticed among all the other bottoms. I was once in my room in a Montreal sauna, just been fucked and bred on the sling, and before the guy leaves in a broken English with French accent he told me that the sign on the wall made him come in. Because I was in Montreal I was using a French sign "Remplir mon Cul" (Fill my hole). Without that sign I would have missed that load. Rather than wondering whether or not I am a true cumdump I prefer to communicate clearly to others that I am and that way I can get loads. Isn't that the goal?

I'm not surprised but I still find it kinda strange that so few barebackers who top are vocal about breeding holes. Topping bareback is also much better than fucking with a condom. I would dare to say that the difference is greater for a top that it is for a bottom. Taking a load is a huge high but it never compares to the pleasure a top feels while shooting his load inside a hole. A condom takes away that pleasure. Anyone who has bottomed and taken loads is a witness of that pleasure. So, why are guys who top more vocal about their breeding experiences?

You are not the only one who enjoys the "Russian roulette" game. I think that anon-stealthing is appropriate as to satisfy guys like ivantitin.

The problem is that barebacking is a very personal and controversial choice which would make it difficult to implement a "Barebacking Zone", But what large bathhouses could do is to assign areas with different lighting, assigning some sections of rooms with dark hallways. I think that darkness would increase barebacking without having openly promote it.

When getting fucked many times bottoms can tell that the top is getting ready to shoot by the breathing or the rhythm of the fucking. But it's always nice for the bottom when the top tells him he's going to shoot with phrases like "I'm close" or "I'm ready to shoot, here it goes....". What has worked for me is to tell the top when I notice he may be getting close "Let me know when you're going to shoot so I can open up my hole to receive your load". Sometime me saying it would send them over the edge.

I'm only saying that anyone who gets anon-stealthed at a bathhouse will be partly because he has been careless believing that strangers will follow all rules. For instance, anyone insisting in guys wearing condoms has to make sure to have good condoms and make sure the condom is properly worn. Anyone who lets the top worry about the condom is being careless because then who knows what will happen. The top may use one of his tampered condoms or may not put it on correctly. Remember, these are strangers who all have different sexual agendas and are not to be trusted. There is no such as a victim in anon-stealthing because the HIV-negative partner is responsible for his health when dealing with strangers.

I do better in one of those Blackout events that bathhouses offer once a week/month. I find that dark areas are the best because darker/darkness make guys more uninhibited. The same guy who in your room may have requested a condom, in the dark room or darker areas he may fuck or get fucked bareback with no problem. I never understand why large bathhouses, like the sauna GI-Joe in Montreal with 4 floors of fun, don't provide one of their floors where lights are dimmer or even dark. Anyone who is familiar with this place would have noticed how bright the basement "darkroom" is where the gloryholes are. I once managed to cover the ceiling light and I was amazed on how quickly the heavy sex action started. Unfortunately, the cleaning guy noticed it and removed the cover and the action stopped right away. I rather go for a Blackout event or a busy night at a bathhouse than a Cumunion party.

I'm usually cautious with feelings of love for guys I meet in casual settings. I can fall "in-love" with a stranger I'm having sex with at a bathhouse and I choose to enjoy the experience without making a big deal about the future of the relationship. In many of the anonymous fuck videos you can see how the top after he breeds the hole he starts kissing the bottom's body displaying tremendous love. I remember a long-term fuck buddy who used to call out-loud my name as he would pump his load in my hole. On my side, as the bottom, I would feel in-love when I heard him calling out my name as he pumped my hole full of cum. He would then collapse and lay on top caressing my body until he would get up and leave, and meet again a few weeks later. I felt in-love but far from a long-term kind of love.

I agree with this, especially in anon scenes where there is more room for free imagination. Some bottom may enjoy fucking and breeding some anon sloppy hole imagining the bottom is him. As a top or as a bottom? I ask because I think most guys who like topping bareback do it because it feels much better. Some bottoms report not to mind being fucked with a condom. But although bottoming bareback feels better there is also a psychological component of having someone else inside and then being left with the cum inside.

I want to mention that this is not a case of anonymous-stealing because I think in this case we all agree that stealthing is not acceptable. I remember a case of a male in Canada who knew he was HIV+ but would purposely look to infect women. Not a very nice behavior. Any damage that stealthing may cause is only speculative which is why I object comparing stealthing with rape or other forms of sexual assault where the damage is obvious and immediate. I was stealthed for the first time by a hook-up at my place. It was not at a bathhouse but it was still an anon hook-up. In the middle of the fuck he pulled out and then re-entered. I remember that it felt different but wasn't sure why. He pulled out, got dressed and before leaving he whispers in my ear "I left you a present". When I touched my hole I could feel the cum leaking out of my hole. I enjoyed it and I was never infected. How can I compare this stealthing incident with rape? I'm sure that most stealthing incidents are initiated by horny guys who don't like condoms and not by poz guys who purposely want to infect other guys, as many try portraying stealthers. Let's imagine a typical anon scene. A poz guy who is walking around in a bathhouse looking for a hole to dump his load. I will call him the poz top but it doesn't matter whether he is a "top" or a bottom who just wants to unload and go home after a night of taking loads. What's important is that he's horny and breeding a hole (not making love to a man) is all he wants. There is a hot young guy getting fucked on one of the public slings which catches his attention but when he gets closer he notices the top is wearing a condom. He wants to fuck him next but he wants to fuck him bareback so he can dump his load. He bottom on the sling says he's HIV-negative and requests a condom but after a few seconds of teasing the bottom agrees to go bare as long as he's HIV-negative. The poz guy is horny so he manages to convince the bottom to go bare with vague answers such as "I'm OK" which really means nothing about STDs. I know that many of you who are against all forms of stealthing, including anon-stealthing, believe that all wishes have to be respected and consent is required, no matter what. The problem I have with that is that we are relying on very ambiguous information to make decisions that we think are rational. Starting with the bottom guy on the sling. How accurate is the HIV-negative status of the bottom on the sling? If our poz top could convince the bottom to go bare, how many other anon tops have been able to convince him to take their loads? How seriously can our poz top take the bottom's self-assessment of being HIV-negative? "He will go bare with me so he must have gone bare with others." Our poz top may easily assume that the bottom is already poz or that he will eventually poz, all based on the bottom's behaviour. If everyone had to get tested for HIV on entry to the bathhouse I would feel different about not telling the truth. At least in this case the question and the answer are both clear and unambiguous, unlike what's happening now that someone who tested 2 years ago considers himself to be HIV-negative.

It's usually because guys are "saving" their loads and don't want to cum yet. But I don't really mind because I do enjoy the pounding too. Plus I do enjoy the challenge to actually get that guy to dump his load in my hole every time he show up to fuck me. Those guys who keep coming back usually end up giving me their loads.

The interests, agendas and experiences are different from one man to another, and that includes the evaluation of the moral code within the context of anonymous sex environment. So well said. I favor initiatives like safestsex.org that allows members to enter their STD test results and then exchange those results with other members. The fact that you have entered the results online adds some accountability. Better than coming up with an answer on the spare of the moment, when horny. I totally agree with this concept, having like a Cumunion of all HIV-negative guys, at least tested on entrance. I heard that safestsex.org organizes private events with members who fall under certain conditions of seniority, testing pattern, etc, which is why they don't advertise the events. These parties could be a way for HIV-negative guys to have anon sex but also reducing the risk. For me it's

Someone who is careless at a bathhouse can contract HIV from a stealther or a guy who does not know that he's poz. The solution for HIV-negative is to stop being so careless, which would be the same advice you would get at any STD clinic. Getting rid of stealthers does not guarantee staying HIV-negative. Let's assume that a poz detectable horny guy is hunting for holes late at night at a bathhouse and he comes across a bottom who is serosorting his tops, basically playing Russian roulette. Somehow the horny poz guy convinces the bottom to go bareback by either lying or somehow letting the bottom believe he's also HIV-. After the poz guy breeds the bottom's hole he leaves and they never see each other again. It would be safe to assume that by the end of the evening, if the bottom is young and hot, he would have taken a few more loads, supposedly all HIV-. And because taking anon loads at a bathhouse is so much fun, there will probably be a repeat of this experience. In other words, trying to view the bottom as a victim of a stealther makes no sense. I would accept the concept of being victim of stealthing but only when there was supposed to be trust between the partners. Because apparently he is the one with the most to loose. You sound like one of those women who despise the objectification of the body and who reacts in disgust. And I'm one of those men who gets lots of pleasure and excitement from anonymous sex where I get the freedom to objectify bodies to fulfill my needs. Anonymous sex always works for me, it never disappointments me. I think that by censoring my need to completely objectify other men in bathhouses and instead "feel for them as people" is equivalent of having to feel sorry for some UFC fight who gets beaten up bad at a fight. No matter how bad they get beaten up they are no victims, first because they chose to fight.

For several years I've been seeing a few types of fake cum lube being advertised. A current search shows me "Jizz" and "Spunk". It may look and feel like cum but once the rimming starts the secret is revealed. Does anybody have anything to say about fake cum lubes?

I would go further and say that all stealthers either lie or remove condoms because fucking a raw hole feels good and seems to be the perfect place to drop a load. Maybe there are some stealthers who are turned-on by the idea of pozing HIV-negative guys. How could he ever know that some random guy he bred at a bathhouse will poz? And if he finds out the guy in fact is now poz, how could he know that it was him who pozed him. I'm not sure how this works for guys who get off on pozing others. ...and bathhouse sex is a perfect example of a suspended morality. Therefore, it makes no sense to label anonymous-stealthing as immoral because it takes place in this suspended morality spaces. I prefer to protect these anonymous spaces from morality which is why I reject the idea of anonymous-stealthing being immoral. As I mentioned before, most poz guys stealth because barebacking feels better and if they need to lie they will in order to get some ass. Although I'm not poz, I like to protect the right of a poz guy to have spaces where he can go and forget about having to discuss his HIV+ status. I like to keep bathhouses as places where he can go to realize sexual fantasies and fetishes. Just because someone was courageous and took the HIV test to learn his HIV+ status does not justify putting all the burden on HIV+ guys all the time. There has to be sexual spaces for poz guys (detectable or undetectable) to go and basically ignore their HIV+ status, and if asked they could lie because it's the shortest way to end the conversation about HIV. I don't have a problem protecting the right to anon-stealth because it is preventable for anyone who is serious about staying HIV-negative.

YES! That's part of sexual adventures that we can have in a bathhouse. And declaring stealthing as illegal removes an important part of the sexual thrill of some men. Instead of becoming an anti-stealth activist it's best to follow a good advice I hear in this site for HIV-neg guys who wanna stay neg: "Guys lie and assume everyone is poz" (particularly true in anon scenes). I sometimes have a hard time following some of the arguments brought forth here. A while ago I mentioned an STD prevention site SafestSex.org which I find is based on the best prevention technique, testing and isolation. All I heard then was that it's impossible for a site like safestsex.org to work because guys lie about their HIV status, which sounds realistic to me if the system does not prevent you from lying. But now in this discussion about stealthing most of the comments try to present every horny guy at a bathhouse as morally pure individual, unlike those immoral stealthers.

I stay completely away from these polluted terminology. I've read of guys who define themselves as Gay and go on to describe their sexual life and the times spent in the gloryholes of a nearby shopping mall sucking cock and sometime getting fucked by strangers. Never a lover. If he was ever asked about his sexuality he would say "I'm gay" because it's better that having to say "All I like doing is sucking anonymous cocks in gloryhole near my place." Whenever I'm referred to as gay I make it clear that I'm not gay because I don't like having sex with men. And it's true, because the only type of sex I enjoy is anonymous. Having sex with a man I know is not appealing at all to me. Maybe once when you still don't know each other very well, especially when I was young. But now all I like is anonymous sex and it happens that men are great at that activity. But do I now have to call myself gay? I find that many men use "being gay" as a cop-out from having to really talk about what really enjoy in sex with other men, like "I addicted to cum!" So many men have watched video of a cock shooting a load and because they were turned on by it, they decided "I'm gay!".

This is the first time I hear a bottom getting off a sling with a load in his hole described as a victim, especially in this site. I'm very surprised. And if you consider HIV in this equation, infection may not even occur. Where the fuck is the victim?

Yes, you are right. Personal responsibility goes both ways because everyone has to be responsible for themselves and not blame someone else if something happens.