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Well said @BootmanLA. I wonder though how other social and geopolitical fronts might have evolved? We would still be in the Iran deal, and we would not have left the Climate Accord. Had there been neonazi gatherings, the president would not be describing them as very fine people. And I doubt Jan 6th would have happened. The benefit of 2020 hindsight. From that starting point though; what might have been the social direction? While I don't want to condone slurs against me or anyone else; I certainly don't want to outlaw them. I would rather be insulted than not be spoken to at all. I don't want to elect someone because of their gender. Or sexual orientation. Or religion. IMO many people believe in silly stuff (I am of no religion, nor party, I also don't believe in the Easter Bunny; until there is verification of life on other planets, I am content to just not know.) But I certainly don't want to outlaw those. But we we don't TALK; then nothing moves forward. I would rather we truly explore our social challenges together. We'll understand each other better. We can choose not to demean each other; but when we do we can also choose to take that as information about ours or another's thinking. Critical thinking might be a victim of our reactions to topics and words we find uncomfortable.
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@BlackDude Yup I am there with you. I don't support any political party largely for the reasons you list. My personal motto is that I vote for people not parties.
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I like how it is unfolding too....
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That funneling for many is the side effect of their goals and party leadership. Party leadership is likely NOT the elected ones, but those who paid to get them elected (Big Pharma, The oligarchs). But indeed there are a number of R's who are in it only for the $$, not for any social benefit save their own self interests. There are others who were taught from babyhood that us queers are the evil ones, and hold onto that like their next meal depended upon it.
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Or, perhaps, they're neither stupid nor evil. Perhaps they just have differing priorities than most of us here.
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Every single response has answered that. I'll conclude that english is not your native language or you ignored much of your early education. Neither PARTY has done a fucking thing for any of us. Parties have one purpose, to carry a banner for their agenda and to promote election of people to follow that. If you think I am trying to be "kind" you are delusional.
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What part of "Parties give us nothing" is confusing??? It was NOT the Democratic Party that gave us AIDS funding, it was Congress; although mostly democratic votes. And that more because of straight children getting AIDS than us.
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Are Democrats ashamed of Michael Dukakis?
PozBearWI replied to highcountrybb's topic in LGBT Politics
I observe those things as well. As I wrote, "We'll see". Odd that you would "partly agree" with that... -
@evilqueerpig you must know that parties, in and of themselves, do absolutely nothing for any of us. Parties lobby for self interest. Thus it is equally true that the Democratic party as also done nothing for any of us. Our government(s) are who we should look to for services, productive legislation. Most seem lump government into a single pot rather than more accurately pay attention to local government (which has the most impact on ones home life), the county government, state government and finally Federal government. Each layer interacts with us as Americans. Only one layer deals with all of us; but each layer is important and has affects us.
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@evilqueerpig I believe all of us in this recent thread are more in agreement than not. Society is always in a state of flux. Observable by myself in my comparatively long life; but also in studying history. The advances we've made since Stonewall are pretty impressive; with AIDS at end helping us (and the whole of society with medical advances). There are still plenty of people who would squelch all the advances LGB people have made since stonewall. (yes I know I left out T, however while I am in agreement with the overall cause; I can't support much of the early youth push on this topic; nor do I buy in to redefining gender by how a person feels than how we were born). And some politicians are seeking traction by getting that element of our society to support them. Nikki isn't gaining much traction but we will see in the coming weeks if that changes.
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Are Democrats ashamed of Michael Dukakis?
PozBearWI replied to highcountrybb's topic in LGBT Politics
We'll see. If R's stay so far right then I imagine we'll finally see a viable third party emerge. But of course, this is only conjecture. Obviously the R's are recognizing their pattern of defeat in popular elections. Will they do something or does the orange clown have to pass away first? Again, we'll see. Both parties actively court me as I am a locally elected official. I am not inclined to join either one although I do vote for more Democrat leaning candidates than not. Locally the choice is sometimes R or nothing. I am thankful every day to live in a municipality where parties are not allowed in. We are incorporated as a non partisan municipality - I suspect influenced by the early 20th century Teddy Roosevelt trial. -
I am more interested in other parts of them than a ring... unless perhaps it is their anal ring...
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Circumcision changes a penis' microbiome
PozBearWI replied to rawTOP's topic in HIV/AIDS & Sexual Health Issues
The operative word being "suggests"... If one wishes to avoid HIV one can use PrEP. No need to cut off thousands of pleasurable nerve endings to achieve a "maybe"... -
Are Democrats ashamed of Michael Dukakis?
PozBearWI replied to highcountrybb's topic in LGBT Politics
@Mattsdarkside I would agree if you phrased it "The republican party". The distinction between party and members of that party are worth making. As a party, it will only come back to center if we encourage members who are more centrist to become more vocal within that party. -
That too is an over simplification. For you that is the case, but not for everyone.
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I believe @BootmanLA answered that in his opening sentences.
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@BootmanLApost and.... We appear to have a popular unproductive notion that talking about politics is "bad"; which added unnecessary divisions. Not that we should only talk politics; that would be taking an extreme view. But the notion it is "bad" took people away when I would have preferred it bring them closer. Talking with each other seems way more productive than having media trying to make us feel good (here in SE Wisconsin the networks have this whole feel good thing going on). I don't listen to news to feel good. How I feel is up to me. I just want information. So the notion, for example, of my local weather forecaster "protecting" me is just silly. Sadly this has cast divisions in my family of siblings, nieces and nephews (generation above has passed; we're next) which changed pre pandemic to now. I am hopeful most of us will seek to regrow those. My immediate family is my husband. There is an outer band of intimate friends. Friends where there are no conversational barriers. (I never understood how keeping secrets from my mate was ever going to be productive). Sadly a smaller group than I prefer, but it is what it is. I am grateful for them. Social network; my car club, my mens club, coworkers, neighbors have grown quite a bit over the past year. And it might have been fool hardy to expect a rebound to exactly where we left off. But there is an observable change here in comfort being together and increasing honest dialogue as we approach local elections as well as other things for which we share common interest. Quoting @BootmanLA "As for the original question: In my view, a friendship is a net positive for both parties, and that's what I look for - someone who will be a net positive in my life. Not that I "keep score", but I am pretty good at spotting people who give back only reluctantly and avoiding them. Not perfect at it, but good enough to avoid the real sociopaths. "
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We're all liking the same thing here. 🙂 Funny we have so many names for it.
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Are Democrats ashamed of Michael Dukakis?
PozBearWI replied to highcountrybb's topic in LGBT Politics
It is too soon for me to hold opinions about who "might" jump into the R race. For that matter, too soon to see what other names might jump in to the D race. This is the evolution of the next 18 months. There are only two (potential) candidates we as a society have a good amount of knowledge. Trump and Biden. Trump is clearly bending authoritan; something which we all have plenty of good solid evidence based upon his own words. Biden certainly displays finesse in dialogue. Both men stumble in their speech. And while they might have good speech writers, I think we need to "elect" those speech writers (or those providing speech direction) and wish them a comfortable retirement. I agree with Nikki Haley that it is time for a generational change. There are observable social and physical changes under way. Our ability to produce crops sufficient to feed humanity is diminishing not only as our climate evolves with all the old storms and drought. Our world leaders are clearly anxious for change. All nations are grappling with droughts and floods. And so the human land grab seems upon us. We could sit back and go nuts at the baths and not think about the trajectory of our species; and ultimately humans die off as other species on this planet have. Or we could let current forces unfold unquestioned and unchecked, and experience massive die off as parts of humanity die off from any of the warring and geological events which are happening more often and with increasing severity. For myself? I might have 20 years left. No one is gonna utter reading my obiturary "he was so young".... I think though that our best evolutions as humans have come when we recognized our challenges and took action to mitigate the worst outcomes. -
Honestly I believe this squelching of political conversation is a big part of our social disarray. While avoiding such conversations are the comfortable path, it isn't one that opens up our critical thinking to other points of view. I think we need more healthy conversations about the diverse political (actually social "arbitrated" by political) views. We've isolated ourselves and become afraid of even angry words (when perhaps bullets might be a wiser fear to hold). This whole thread titled "why to Republicans hate gay people?" has to be a social/political discussion by its very title. If one is reading this "tired of the political debate" then why are you following this thread at all? Honestly I am glad you are! In truth Republicans don't hate gay people. That is the popular view perhaps, but it would be incorrect. And certainly when we pay attention to the wing tips like Ted Cruz, MTG, Jim J I can understand why one might think that. What we're not paying attention to are the quiet Republicans. I would hope we seek them out more. For myself, I am not a member of any party. Neither of the two noisy ones are a significant cause of our social polarization. The quiet ones are too quiet. And it is uncomfortably popular to hold the view "I don't like political discussion". Each of us can make a difference just by participating with rational, fact based dialogue about social matters.
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Interesting progression, I am looking forward to the next chapter.
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Future of porn (and this site) is really uncertain right now…
PozBearWI replied to rawTOP's topic in LGBT Politics
It's not just "one old geezer". But you're welcome to display your utter ignorance.... -
What should gays do to stay politically "relevant"...?
PozBearWI replied to harrysmith25's topic in LGBT Politics
@harrysmith25 a million headlines about transgender people? Where are those statistics kept? @BootmanLA it is certainly harrysmith25's right to use any reference he chooses. And others may react however they will to his less than sensitive references. If we ever hope to work ourselves off the wingtips of political discourse, we would to well to ignore the words and focus on what was said. While Transgender individuals certainly are working as hard as us queers of the 70's to get themselves recognized; I suggest paying attention to local (city, county, state) legislative agenda. Gay rights are definitely on the line here in Wisconsin. Unless we stand back up again we're apt to see much of our progress the past 50 years roll back along with RVW. -
Future of porn (and this site) is really uncertain right now…
PozBearWI replied to rawTOP's topic in LGBT Politics
True that the election deniers are entitled to their opinion. We all are. However, truth is truth. I recall the Trump voters of 2016 (when Trump actually won the Electoral College votes; albeit not the popular vote) telling those who didn't vote with them "Deal with it". Right neighborly of them don't you think? These same people carry on the lie Trump promulgated in 2020 and which he and his ilk still push. But he did not win that election, either by Electoral College nor by popular vote. To the contrary, he as actually committed a series of illegal acts to overthrow the will of the majority. Now, indeed they can still think of 45 as their king. But he lost. And he committed (as yet unprosecuted) treason.
