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Both of you are highly intelligent men, and reside on the other end of the T/b spectrum respective to me. That said, here's my perspective: Yes, I do believe that we are innately possessed of the desire to share sex with other similarly-oriented men. But that's not the crux of the issue. I think we are who we are, and the issue is whether we accept it, enlarge upon it, consider it, wonder over it, use our intellect to find out where exactly we "fit in" on the wide and spectacularly magnificent spectrum. Having gone through the same O.R. bullshit as our tall slim wonderboy out West, I can relate how destructive to our nature that mess is. It takes a lot of intellectual work to overcome that insidious crock of shit. Our electrified Eros may or may not have experienced this particular ball and chain, but he has clearly devoted much energy to the issue of his calling. As I have written before, I happen to hold a man who has accepted his calling to Service (herein referred to as cumdumpery) in the highest regard. It indicates a very substantial investment of his intellect to arrive at such a magnificent realization, and the courage to act upon that realization. Thus, the question actually becomes, do we have the inner fortitude to reject what we find to be untrue, despite having cultural (and religious) bullshit drummed into us? Many do not bother to examine these truths, buried deeply within our minds. It takes guts to tell the world (or what we've been taught what the world is) to go to hell, and take the attempts at cultural control with it. But, for the man that does have that refined ability, the world becomes a better, more satisfying, more sensible place. Accepting the furthest reaches of our nature, whether T or b, is key to living a mentally healthy, productive life. If we agree that sexuality (g/s) is indeed part of our inborn nature*, then how we practice our innate needs becomes the only issue. Either or both of you can judge me, but I have arrived, after no small amount of reflection many years ago, that my sexuality is gift of nature, and that - like any gift - it's only valid when it's shared - given away freely to every man that needs/wants it. The drive to Breed many, many men is, in fact, a natural instinct, and, for men like me, it's not only a joyful act to share our Sperm with as many men as possible, it's one of the keys to living a productive life. Obviously not the only one, but an important one among numerous others. Religio/cultural strictures forbid our straight brothers from the freedom we enjoy, and that's to the gene-pool's sorrow. Fortunately for us, those strictures are so outrageously anti-anything like gay-accepting, we're able to celebrate our sexuality to the fullest (if on the fringes of society), and our lives are the better for that freedom. So yes, I agree that we're born with the requirement to share sex amongst our own gender, and with as many as we need to. It's the intellectual effort, the introspection, the searching for answers to deeper questions that results in the very special men who answer the call to cumdumpery. When we accomplish that, we're yin to each other's yang - we fit together, in our multitudes, absolutely perfectly. Or, as some idiot on BZ often puts it, we're "connected" !!! And what's more beautiful that that ??? *I remember reading somewhere that the "gay" gene (or is it chromosome?) is passed from the mother to the child, while the father determines gender.

I'm with you. When I had to buy a new box spring/mattress, I bought another queen sized one, but only because all the sheets and blankets are that size, and I'm not about to go buy a ton of smaller sheets. Besides, occasionally I wake up on "his" side in the morning - which invites a whole 'nother can of worms I'd just as soon not open.

And I would agree. I know felching/snowballing isn't for every guy, but I happen to consider felching a prelude and a postlude to Breeding. If the guy isn't into snowballing, fine - more for me. If he is, sharing it part of the whole ball of cum ... er .... wax - yeah, that's it .... ball of wax. Can you tell that I'm still on the mpx time-out, counting down the waiting period ???

LOL .... I vote for YOUR description !!!!!

Simple. For some guys, it's two completely different acts, not different parts of the same act. Vive la difference, right?

Here's how I'm handling it: One mpx became an up & cumming issue, I had phone calls in to all the health-care agencies in the area to get the mpx vaccine. I decided, mostly because of conflicting reports in the media regarding the details of transmission, blah blah blah to hold off on my usual sexual routine. So, I've been going without for a few weeks, but I usually take the 'better safe than sorry' lane. I'll feel comfortable heading out again soon, and putting off the fuckjoints for a while in favor of making sure I'm as protected as I can be, after the suggested wait time has passed, I'll jump into the pile again. At least I'll know I've taken the most steps possible to avoid infection, and I can live (and fuck) with that. It's irritating not to know what to do - I get that in spades. But, until I felt I knew enough (and got the shot), I just told my Cock that he'd simply have to wait, and shut the fuck up about it. But, what level of risk you decide to assume is up to you, right? Good luck, bud

The construct model is, to me, delightfully classic. 1. Statement of thesis: Carefully crafted with only a single negative reference. 2. Expansion of thesis, spiced with some lovely, elegant (and politely disparaging) verbiage. 3. The denouement: Clear, concise, and unmistakable. Whether one agrees or disagrees, the model is consistent, the thought-leading is provocative, and I'd have hired you as editor of one of the publications in an eyeblink.

Years ago, my other half went out to the antique stores, and came home with a pretty little blond kid so skinny he coulda walked through a harp. I was in the home office, heard them come in, so walked to the front to say hi, and wondered what on earth the other half was planning to do with this kid. But, we had the "outside-sex" thing successfully taken care of years before, so I followed them into the bedroom. This kid pulled his pants down and I swear a 10-incher, thick and hard, bounced out and up against his belly. It must have taken half the blood in his whole body to pump it up like that. Wound up with the kid and I fucking the other half, then the other half sucking him off again, and finally I fucked the kid. He stayed for dinner, and a few days more ...... ya just never know, right ???

^ Probably a good cook too ........

In my experience, a little bit of post-Breeding cuddling is .... well .... ok. Emphasis on "little". Cuddling, as I define it, is something one does with a lover or maybe a very serious boyfriend. I fuck a lot, and that doesn't mean I "love" every guy I fuck. I may discover (if there's any post-fuck interaction) that I don't even like the guy personally, no matter how "hot" the fuck was. Cuddling and fucking are, to me at least, two different things, and bridged only when there's some measure of real love (or at least caring) between the two. Strangers don't cuddle, they fuck. My Cock and my Heart operate on two different planes of existence these days.

The way I see it, kissing is part of that elusive "connection" that happens only occasionally. I mean deep, tongue-down-the-throat kissing. It's another way of demonstrating that the guy isn't just another Hole to rut in, there's a deeper interaction available. Kissing - at least for me - is a metaphor: my tongue in your mouth is directly akin to my Cock up your gut. It implies a deeper connection than the physical mating.

Alright, I understand your phrasing. Thanks for that explanation then ...

I'm guessing they're looking for clicks-through.

Interesting topic. The Googler includes a pre-existing condition in it's definition, namely a pre-existing relationship (no further qualifiers included). There were several sources* cited, most specifically including that requirement. It appears that someone who isn't in a relationship couldn't fit into that definition. Of note, there are tons of guys that are in a relationship that also regularly indulge in extra-relationship sex, whether the other half knows it or not. How would you quantify "exceptionally"? 99 out of 100 opportunities taken? 80? 70? By opportunities, I mean any available Holes in a backroom/fuckjoint. There are guys in those places that I wouldn't bother with, for any number of reasons; unprepared, asscheeks so fat I couldn't get past them and into the Hole, talking too much bs, stuff like that, but I imagine that's pretty much a universal experience for us. Thanks for the subject post, EW, and cranking up the issue, BMLA *some more scholarly, some less so

Sounds like you really enjoyed each other - that's great !!! I don't read any bad news there - only perhaps some postponed Good News yet to come. Per the mechanics: I don't know from your text whether this would be appropriate at this point, but you may want to consider asking one of your fuckbuddies who isn't possessed of quite so impressive equipment as you, to assist in opening the Hole with something not quite so impressive. If that would mess with the new guy's head, forget it, but he may find it exciting too. If it's too much too quickly, or you don't want to begin on that level, obviously don't mention it.

It appears all of this transpired online? Thus, the most important facet of a reply is denied you, in that you and he aren't in the same physical space. Courage is easy to summon forth from behind a keyboard, often less so in-the-flesh. I don't use the cruising apps anymore, mostly because there's rather little pay-off for the time invested. There's little point in trying to bring some understanding to someone who is not present, unless they're willing to hear your perceptions with some measure of integrity. I'd just ignore the nameless, faceless, wanna-be, and move on; don't bother yourself with them. That said, in the backrooms/fuckjoints, you're one of many other men there, in-the-flesh, doing what every one of you needs to do. You can just smile, if someone thinks they're holier than thou, and say "yeah, I am a _____, and happily so - wanna join in?" They'll either jump at the chance, or toss one more empty insult over their shoulder as they slink away.

So far, I haven't found anything to suggest they're anything other than derivative. And, I'm pretty much done with it. Still, it was interesting ... for a minute .....

Good on you. Those racist hatemongers deserve every ounce of your rejection. I wish more guys would stand up to the overt hate-mongering. Slut-shaming (another thread) is nothing compared to Racist-shaming.

That "frothy mixture" mentioned above is probably one of the lurkers here on BZ ... what a wretched excuse of a man who cannot bring himself to face his demons.

I agree. There's a special kind of scent on a guy that's been having sex all night, and it's like iron filings drawn to a magnet. When I used the apps, at the end of the profiles I put "come clean, get sweaty".

HAHAHAHAHA ........ you do have a gift for phrasing, don'tcha !! If cum-snot turns a guys crank, then great. Have at it, and include me out.

What about if we like a shark steak on the rare side ??? Secondary infection of monkey / shark / human infection ?😉

I vote for hairy - the more the better - and if it fans up over the ass onto the small of the back. the eye-candy quotient is off the charts while <polite cough? dinner is served. Rich, dark, curly HoleHair is sexual ambrosia !!!

No. More, I didn't answer this earlier because I'd never heard of them. So I squeezed in some investigative time a while ago, and realized after some hunting that some folks apparently do, and some folks apparently don't. Admittedly, only scratched the surface, but - at this point - it sounds like a healthy helping of bs to me. But, I'll read some more about it. I do enjoy learning about things, regardless of whether I buy into it or not. Obviously, barebackers possess yet another quality, other than the obvious - that being an advanced level of intelligent inquiry.

Some great advice above, Poptronic. I would only add that, (assuming he's truthful about not having taken raw Cock before - and there's no reason to think he isn't), he's already thinking about how unfulfilling bagged Cock is, which is a good thing. He want's it *for real*, but be sure to take it slowly. Unless he's really submissive, let him steer the first time. Prove to him that you're not going to harm him in any way, or get pushy about anything. I would predict that once he feels your Cock pumping Sperm up his gut, he's going to be well on his way to needing more and more. Either he's going to be banging on your door all the time, or he's going to go hunting. I think you should be supportive, no matter which way he decides to go. Good luck, and enjoy introducing him to the *real* thing !!