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I think otherwise - "you lay there a total Champion" !!!

Has anyone mentioned how much fun it is when the bottom swivels around, after we fuck him full, and sucks the remnants of the load off our Cocks? It's best when he's already got a few loads up there, obviously. That's always cool - and about the only time it occurs to me to kiss the bottom ... in French ...

Thanks for the correction; I asked the Googler, and even he didn't know that word .... 😄

Neither can I, and I don't feel badly about it either. I don't think you should either !!!

I was one of those sloooow learners. I knew I didn't like girls very much (all the giggly, silly behavior, etc) and I hung around mostly with guys. It was in high school that I first figured out what the word "fag" meant, and I surely didn't want to be associated with that. I can be patient though, and I knew I was going away to school in a few months, so it wasn't all that tough. When I got to undergrad though, it didn't take long at all. Pledged a frat (professional music), and said "yeah I will" to the first guy that approached me. For a while, I had "window dressing" on the side, (mostly because her grandfather had given her his '62 Coupe de Ville with a 390 in it), and shortly I brought one of the 2 cars I already had (that my folks never knew about) to school. She was a nice girl, but - she just wasn't a guy - so that was it. A few years later, the "grapevine" reported she'd gotten married, divorced, and on the hunt for #2. I'm glad I never actually did anything ...

Soooo, I had to google "grok" ... hadn't heard/read that term before. It's tough to imagine how a clearly written anything can be mistaken or misinterpreted. If I can figure out how to find out what something means, I would think that anyone can, if they give one-tenth of a shit; I'd be fine with missing out on dullards like that.

Same damn thing in the fairly large midwestern city I grew up in. Nothing at all in school, so I presume the City Dept of Education (or whatever it was called) put the kibosh on sex-ed.* This, in a Jr. High school where the required swimming classes were held sans swimming suit. Worse, most of the parents of kids my age opted to have the dad's take their sons to a series of "presentations" at the YMCA downtown (young men's Christian assn). The hall was quite large - there were weekly "addresses" by doctors, professors, charlatans, etc - I recognized a number of guys in my grade at those meetings, holding at least a couple hundred seats. From clerics peddling the pseudo-Christian line, to medical people peddling that series of addresses, to whoever else they could scrounge up to put the fear of Gawd in out minds. The horrors of std's, (hiv was as of yet unknown), the sorrows of having sex that could result in procreation (boys fathering children, all of that), neatly wrapped up in the usual, tired old judgements by the clerics. *however, a course in civics was required, which I learned to appreciate quite a number of years ago.

Wellllll .... Experience counts too .... just sayin .... 😉 Every guy has to start out at some point, but when the zero's start to mount up, at least the Top has gained enough experience to get the job done to every bottom's satisfaction - hopefully !!!

Interesting theory; it's the only one that could possibly explain the issue. I don't wish "trauma" on anyone, but - I've heard that sometimes babies get dropped on their heads ... Hopefully not, but maybe it's true .... I'm not sure what they teach in the public schools anymore, but chances are really poor it's reading (and comprehending what they've just read), spelling, writing, those basics.

That's the best use of hyphenation to cross out a word that I've ever seen ..... just sayin ..... 😁

Which is why I ditched the "smallish" (but second-largest population in Illinois, including the burbs) burg as soon as I could. After H.S., off to school, and I only went back to visit on birthdays, anniversaries, funerals, etc. I was actually afraid of what might come out of my mouth, once the political shitstorm started to fly. Did my duty when the parents got old, but that was it.

I suppose it's the user of the term, but beneath that simplicity is the thought process inculcated into that person by the cultural group he/she identifies with. On the face of it, I doubt many would argue that aspiring to DEI is a negative notion (unless, obviously, the defendant feels a part of a historically neglected group, and thus anticipates equity of some kind in a "woke" agenda). I don't think we're at a "Brownshirt" moment quite yet, when gangs of thugs roamed the streets a century ago, looking for "the other" to beat up. That said, we've already seen a "kinda-sorta" Torchlight Parade, with unimpressive, home-made flagging, the torches sourced from garden-supply stores. We're on the road to that shocking development, but not quite there yet. There's still time to quell that insidiously selfish instinct, but only if those carrying that burden are voted out of office in decisive numbers. I enjoyed the "pendulum" metaphor, and it's a good one. The problem though, is it can easily swing so far in one direction that the balance is destroyed (i.e, the fulcrum itself becomes un-centered), and then there's nothing but chaos. The more reasonable folks that get on the "woke" side of the pendulum, the better. It's a bit of an "ask" though, given the hard-set "values" the anti-wokers seem so infused with. I guess we'll see in a few weeks. Perhaps. Maybe too quickly? Sadly though, there are generations of folks who grew up with a mindset of "us vs. them", and to the point that those folks will support anti-wokeism to their dying breath. Throw into that sour mix the notion of Religiousity, perverted and twisted from it's ancient/original message by the forebears of the anti-wokers. When (or if) these misguided folks find disappointment in November, the "Brownshirts" may well cause major problems. After all; it's a generational, inculcated identity that will be judged (assuming a Democratic sweep) and found wanting. If anyone thinks that's a bridge-too-far, consider that the Speaker of the House, 3rd in line to the Presidency, is actively trying to "bring about the "End Times" (as described in ancient texts), according to a number of reports. I haven't heard any recordings of him actually saying it out loud, which would prove damning. Thus, I can't personally say whether it's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were. I too was in business for many years, and encountered similar events within the organization. Once, it got so bad I had to go out to the LA office and fire someone. Completely unpleasant, in every way. However, no business owner can allow one misguided person to infect an entire office with cultural biases or worse. It got so bad (before I even found out) that the rest of the staff didn't dare tell me at first, but garbage like that always surfaces at some point, and they got (a very minor) scolding about letting things get to that point before reporting it. All of which is to agree that we need to keep ourselves aware of what is happening around us, consider where we stand on the issues, and defend those who are unable to defend themselves - across the board. Thanks for that most interesting addition.

LOL ..... one of these days, right?

Isn't it interesting how just one sentence can incapsulate and entire Presidential term?

I too have noticed that, and it's offensive. Local elections are coming up very soon, including the mayoral. Yes, I know he's gay. Yes, he's done some good things for the gay community. There are other issues he's not done well on though, and he's mayor of the whole city, not just the donor class. Write him a letter .... I have.

That may be true, but there are steps to take - like many of us have - to ameliorate those dangers. It's still no excuse for one guy to anoint himself arbiter of that sandy scene.

If life is a journey, and the guys that haven't been living that life for as long as some, I can understand that disappointment. The remedy might be, for the disappointed bottoms to realize that part of the thrill for many Tops is to "connect" with multiple bottoms - not Breeding each one - merely rutting is connective. When a certain Top has accomplished that ritual, and goes back to find a certain bottom he liked the most, and give his load to that guy, it means something.

Like tallslenderguy, I completely missed this interesting thread. First though, THANKS, topblkmale, for sharing that most interesting link. It's well worth listening to any number of times. Agreed. It's not my Principal objection, but it arises out of that same mindset. When great leaders/teachers emerge, throughout history, their original message is often coopted to serve later assumptions by those who have been fooled into believing that they're "special" to some Deity or another - which therefore assumes that folks who don't believe the same way are somehow less deserving. That belief - often reinforced over centuries - that the "beloved" of the Deity are therefore "better" than non-believers (in that particular belief-system), which gives license to undervalue their fellow citizens, their peers. That result becomes the antithesis of the original belief-system, and the believers cannot grasp that truth. When any belief-system throughout history becomes an "us vs them" ideology, it's value is diminished exponentially, which is where we find ourselves currently with the "Christians" vs the rest of society. That couldn't be more obvious. How else could a substantial number of presumably intelligent people be so fooled into following a clearly depraved individual, emotionally crippled and devoid of a scintilla of being "awakened" to anything but himself, his own selfish interests - the very antithesis of what they proclaim to anyone who will listen? I think the term "woke-ism" was coined to counter the presumptive superiority of the "Christians". If an "awakening" in a substantial number of free-thinking citizens can occur, then those who have closed their minds to the world around them, choosing instead to depend on ancient, magic-based belief system, I believe they'll be left behind (and yes, I meant it in that sense).

I would consider that situation as something that needed a brief discussion before the fuck takes place. That chat could contain almost anything, as long as it was either true, or clearly fantasy. The point being, anything other than a regular breeding can and should be mentioned. If the bottom says something like "I want to be pozzed", but the Top can't (because he's negative or on some preventative), the Top could either 1) play along, despite being negative, or 2) just say he can't, and go on to the next bottom. If the Top doesn't want to participate in that kind of fantasy, he can easily say so, and just go on to the next bottom. If he does like the notion, he can verbally put a sweat on the bottom's brow, and physically his Hole.

Well, if that works for both guys, fine. All that matters is both agree to whatever the limits are, and respect them.

To the above posts, I think there was a universally wanton response to the post-covid time. It was like being stuck in heavy traffic, by a stoplight that was broken, stuck on RED - for years. When the DMV finally got that stoplight fixed, and it turned green, everyone "floored it", and all those built-up cubic inches of lust roared to life again.

I think Ann Slanders (or was it Dear Blabby?) should take her cues from YOU !!!

The only qualifier that I can discern, however, is if the darkroom/bar/fuckjoint is full of men rawfucking each other, i.e. dozens and dozens of men fucking/sucking at any given moment. In places like that, I've never so much as seen a condom. Thus, when every guy is either fucking/getting fucked raw (or, merely sucking Cocks off if that's his bent), it's not inappropriate to make the assumption that "raw is law" in that joint, otherwise the guy wouldn't be there in the first place. I can understand in places like bathhouses, where private "rooms" are available, a negotiation of limits can (and should) take place. This implies a brief "negotiation", which, upon taking place, if there is variance between what's being offered, the two simply say something like "thanks anyway", and continues looking for what they're prowling for. No harm done.

My money is on Leontyne .... Beyonce is great too, but ... The "added phrases" applies to the apps? Polite manners take no more time than impolite manners, Thanks for your input.

Simple: Too late. Assuming the venues discussed above, where there is at least a darkroom, slings, guys fucking raw, breeding, all of that, it's just too damn late once a Cock starts pumping Sperm up bottom's gut. Even if the Top hears the bottom once he's started shooting his load deep in the Hole, there's already the first or second volley in the Hole, and pulling out, wasting the rest of the load won't reverse that. It's also disrespectful for the bottom to merely assume he has control. The bottom's control (to whatever extent) ends when the Cock starts to part his cheeks.