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"And that, I think, is a good start". Agreed, within certain parameters. I'm assuming that the "discourse" you allude to is with someone you feel is a "friend", to some degree or another. Someone you like (at least somewhat), and respect (same qualifier). When those are the "default" positions - most likely mutual - there's every chance that neither person (m or f) would want to purposely disrespect the other, and thus keep the tone of the conversation within certain "non-challenging" parameters. This assumes, of course, a pre-existing sense of friendship, respect, each for the other. In that kind of trusting situation, what the other person has to say is important, and received with the aforementioned sense of trust in mind. Even criticism for x or y or z can be considered within the framework of non-judgementalism. While some folks are not disposed to this kind of sharing relationship, I'll bet 10-to-1 that you are. Thus, the "trick" is to parry conversations that may prove distasteful, and engage seriously only those you trust - and who trust you. Now, I know you wouldn't be engaging in this kind of sharing with just anyone you happened to meet - who would? It would be someone you already trusted to be decent, honest, and couch any potential critical statements as carefully as they're able. However - "if their logic doesn’t hold up against my own values" - then your friend can still remain one of your friends, but there's simply a depth of that friendship that will not be plumbed. And, that's alright. We don't need all that many "real" friends, but we do need a few. Like you, I generally don't engage in these kinds of discussions until I really know someone, and for the same reasons. Combine that with a disinclination to accept poorly-thought out, poorly conceived blathering with little respect, and we wind up being refreshed, validated in our sense of self, our sense of purpose, and our sense of determination to be the man that we aspire to be. Thanks for that most interesting post.

Could be great for the bottom, particularly if he's adept at imagination. Would need to be agreed upon prior though ...

Well, it's the height of "hot". A lot of guys in this neighborhood bought homes (I mean, close to Ramrod) back when the r.e. prices had bottomed out, so it's at least 1/3 gay households, more wouldn't surprise me. The place across the street from me (at one time, owned/lived in by the Chief of Police in Ft. L.) has a two-storey garage in back that's been converted to two apts, the main house has been subdivided, and it's all rented out for AB&B short term travelers. There are people coming and going constantly over there, (which is fine by me - n.o.m.b.). Those properties that aren't AB&B are mostly owned by gay guys who bought here when RR was still going full blast (like me, for instance). The residents that bought a house 40, 50 years ago might be straight, but virtually all of the original homeowners are long dead and gone. So, it's diverse around here, which I like.

I think most Tops really appreciate a well-bred Hole. It's a total pleasure to slide into a "holding pen" full of other guy's loads. It only means the bottom is truly dedicated to sating his Lusts, which is a total turn-on for many of us.

I voted for "looking to get fucked". I think that it takes a bit more than walking around with one's Hole hanging out to advertise "total pighood".

This may be a bit self-serving, but I've always believed that it's all in how one uses what he's got. It's not the inches that put a sweat on a bottom's brow - it's the skill with which his Hole is well and truly fucked.

Welllllllll ...... there's probably never going to be a cure for cowardice .......

Thanks to the progress of medical science, we're alllllllmost all the way there. One of these days, condoms will be a thing of the past for us.

Around here, raw is definitely the law. I haven't so much as seen a condom in literally years, and I've been hitting the fuckjoints every weekend for years. That said, here's something that even I wouldn't do, and it happened on the street directly in front of my house, and in broad daylight: So there are three different-colored bins we have here for different types of refuse: black for actual garbage, blue for recyclables, and green for garden trimmings, branches, etc. There are separate trucks that come for only one of the colors. The black-bin trucks come really early in the mornings, the blue-bin trucks around mid-mornings, and the green-bin trucks never earlier than mid afternoon, sometimes later. So. I went out in the mid afternoon to the street to bring in the green bin, and there were two guys (both hot) that were actually fucking, maybe 15' away from my driveway ... the bottom holding onto the green bin. The Top was good looking, the bottom was gorgeous, and I stopped dead in my tracks at the end of the driveway - simply stunned at their boldness. Anyone driving a car down the street would have easily seen them - couldn't have missed them. The Top glanced around and saw me, pulled out, muttered something to the bottom, who pulled up his shorts and walked away down the street. The Top "put himself away", and strolled over and actually apologized to me for making such a display on what is actually city property, but directly in front of my house. He had an accent - almost certainly from somewhere else (Europe, probably) on a fuck-cation. I just said 'no problem - it's city property, not mine', and he said he was waiting for an Uber. Now. I've seen a lot - done a lot too. But I've never fucked on a public street in the middle of the afternoon, in broad daylight, where anyone could watch, from one end of the block to the other, or drive by. All those two horndogs had for cover was a refuse bin to fuck behind, maybe (dammitt, I'm gonna go out and measure it) ...... 29" wide, 29" deep, 46" high. That's what I call bold, and may Heaven bless them both.

I do now .......

I agree completely with all the guys who've praised the hard work and dedication rawTop has devoted to BZ. Most of us will never know how much time, effort it takes to create/maintain a forum like BZ. There must be all kinds of frustrations that develop, and we users of the site know nothing of them. A round of applause (no, not the clap) go to the moderators too. It can't be easy to keep a herd of opinionated horndogs like us in line either. This is the best site I've discovered for sharing thoughts, perceptions, on widely-varying subjects, and in a (mostly) respectful manner. Thanks.

There must be something in the water out there that you don't drink yourself .....

I've been criticized for repeating stuff from previous posts, so I won't do that here. That said, "in the early 80's" I was in grad school. Had started fucking guys a decade prior, the summer before undergrad. Thus, I started as early as I could in that village (but actually a fairly large city) I called home, as soon as I was outta high school.

I love that song .... always thought of it as a goal to attain, rather than something that should already exist, but doesn't yet.. Even the key, (plain-jane old C major) is evocative of the almost impossibility of attaining what the song represents. *I don't think the world has recognized the enormity of his talents yet. (rhetorical answer) Yep. Attended another one earlier this afternoon. Started out with about 150 people, a month+ ago. Today, it was not quite 900. I should state that this County (Broward) is the most reliably Democratic in the State of FL. When the Republican members of the House won't even attend the normal, long, loooong standing "town hall" meetings with their constituents, and the Democratic office-holders in the area attend instead, there's nothing "normal" afoot at all. More, it's happening in every State in the Union. The R's don't even have enough backbone to meet with the residents of their districts. More, this is happening nation wide, daily, not just here and there. The local republican office-holders don't even have the balls to face their own constituents !!!

Welllll .... I used to keep a cumdump for a few years ..... and yes, enabling him, being a part of him taking loads was like throwing a lit match on a thousand-year-old pile of fir-tree branches. More, his Hole was thick with curly black hair .... somebody just below my belt is wide awake just recalling it .....

Well, how about "experienced"? Add an "s" if you'd like. Most bottoms appreciate a Top that knows what he's doing (which "(s)experience' is gained by countless rehearsals of those particular acts applicable).

To the O.P, I guess I'd just say I don't think I've ever been afraid to "try" something I wanted to try. Once done, I know if I want to keep after that particular depravity or just move on to try something else I hadn't. If X act didn't appeal in the first place, it wouldn't appeal in the thousandth place either, with the inverse being equally true.

I don't think I ever bothered to start counting. All I cared was "on to the next one".

Yeah - it has been ever thus with the Dems. Probably will continue until there's no more anything anymore too. It's not that they can't - it's that they won't. It goes against the grain for virtually all Dems. There's a strong sense of standing fast for core beliefs, and simply not bending on them. Justice, equal rights before the law, regardless of race, national origin, etc etc. The shit the R's pull, is simply beneath most Democrats. R's stand for restricting rights; D's stand for expanding them.

I'd call you a regular guy - maybe with a more *refined* sense of tastes - but a hot, pig-minded regular guy ......

NO. Real estate is really off the rails, at least in Ft. L. I get scam calls all damn day long from realtors wanting to "represent" my house. According to these realtors, my house is worth 4 times what I paid for it (and that's with zero improvements in the city infrastructure / services). Tons of places on the market. I actually saw one of these "tiny houses" being dragged into the back yard of a house in the next block.

At this point, I doubt anyoe would disagree - and we still have quite while to get through before he's gone.

First, a clarification of something that I stated poorly above: There are not over one hundred thousand demonstrations daily here, but there are over 100 thousand Americans participating daily in demonstrations nationwide, in "red" states and "blue" states alike. To your current post, of course the US has wielded that "soft power" richly throughout the world, and for a long, long time. That seems to be the nature of Nations that can get away with it, and from time immemorial. Those nations that can, will. The difference currently is, the implicit and active bias against other nations that has not been present before. The Administration arguing that USAID should be cancelled because it's a waste of time and, of course, money, is an outrage against humanity. Please don't ask why the Administration has done shit like this, since I cannot possibly come up with a reason. It's not to save a fukkin dollar - that's certain. The Administration is peddling hatreds of long, long standing by a segment of Americans, who - for some reason - actually believe that their racial origins bestow some sort of superior status, compared to other Americans not of that same origin. This has been the curse of this nation since the first invaders landed at Plymouth Rock, and it has yet to be dealt with. There can be no dispute that Americans who are interested in restoring America to some semblance of it's former reputation simply must clear out this ancient curse of our nation. Look carefully, deep down in between the cracks in the facade, and this is exactly what a seeker will find. Agreed. But that's not the cause Mr. Trump wants; he wants disruption, he wants to be the Dear Leader - worshipped as a savior by throngs of adoring idiots. This is why his Cabinet is falling apart - barely weeks after being formed. Hegseth - utterly, completely, totally unqualified to do anything other than be a Fox tv show host, installed as Sec'y of Defense ??? What more crystalline example could there be of the totally utterly depravity of the current resident of the White House? "Playing nicely" is exactly what Mr. T doesn't want. First, thanks for providing that most interesting link. It's something I'd not known, but now I do, so thanks. And yes, the parallels are impossible to miss. Actually, it's really pitiful how much Mr. T. craves attention, adoration. Leaders of Nations know from the get-go that they don't need to be "loved", they need to be "obeyed". It must be a terrible burden to bear, reaching almost eight decades of living, and failing at every worthwhile project he ever attempted. He's become a parody of what he tried to hard to achieve.

And therein lies the crux of the problem. The man is sorely lacking in mental acuity, yet presumes himself a self-proclaimed genius. He has failed at every business-venture he's attempted, he's lost many fortunes to his incompetence. Everything he touches turns to shit. That said, just like most con-men, he's captured the minds of many with his false promises, but the piper is dancing down the lane, coming to be paid soon. It's the SCOTUS that I'm watching now. It infamous two rabid Trumpies are standing alone now, and 2 to 7 isn't going to get Mr. T anywhere. His inflated ego is going to also be the instrument of his destruction.

I've been wondering why the OP'er would have asked the initial question, which was "Aren't Americans concerned by the loss of trust? (no visible reaction from the public)" Perhaps the reason the original poster asked this is because he lives elsewhere* - not in the US - and the broadcasters in his area may not be covering this issue in depth. The major media coverage of the mass protests is ubiquitous here - every newscast on every major channel carries video of hundreds and hundreds of protesters, most with hand-made protest signs, from very small towns to major metropolitan cities with thousands of protesters, also with their handmade signs. These protests are occurring daily, and from one end of the US to the other, ranging from many hundreds of people in small towns to many thousands in larger cities, from the Northern borders to the Southern. From the Eastern boarders to the Western. On a daily basis. This kind of turnout to protest against the US Government's actions have never been seen before, rivaled only by the Peace Demonstrations during the Nam years. Americans are indeed very concerned about the loss of trust in our Government, the Leadership thereof, as well as numerous more focused causes. Little old ladies, young kids, and everything in-between is out there every damn day protesting what's happening in the US Government. Most Americans have indeed lost trust in their Government, and are in the streets - in their thousands - on a daily basis - protesting the state of affairs in the US. It may be that there are some supporters of the Administration that are also demonstrating somewhere, but Fox media can't afford to cover these other events. Or won't. If they even exist. One type of demonstration that I completely disagree with, are the attacks on Tesla cars. The folks who bought Tesla's were trying to do the responsible thing, avoiding gasoline-powered cars in favor of electric cars, and none of us knew what a craven creature Musk was until quite recently. It sounds to me like he's the one whose teetering on the brink of being sent to El Salvador. *and perhaps not in a major population center in Europe; that isn't made clear (and I'm not saying it should be - only that he may not be aware of the more enormous, granular, daily events taking place daily in the US).