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To me, a Tops piss is another form of semen. Obviously, that's a personal point of view, not universal. i have found if a guy is Top and/or Dom in His nature, He is often also into or open to WS. You may have to approach it subtly at first because, even in the gay community, puritanical notions can be part of ones make up. i've always thought it's pretty interesting how every human sex organ is also used for 'waste' disposal. Even a woman has a period through her vagina every 21 days or so, and that is removing waste. To me, a womans period is sort of like a 7 day bowel movement lol (i'm a nurse, i am not delicate). Point is, the sensibilities some have about piss are generally culturally conditioned and can be undone. To me, it's not unlike being gay and having to get past the cultural conditioning that assumes everyone is straight. Some believe our urine has pheromones in it, sexual attractants and markers, like other mammals have. To me, if it comes from a guy with a Top or Dom nature, it's 'seed,' if it comes from a bottom or sub, it's 'waste.' Again, not making a universal declaration, it's how i am wired. i love the symbiosis of a Total Top/total bottom dynamic. And i have met plenty of Tops and/or Doms who see it the same way. in my experience, if one is a Total Top or Dom, they can have the kind of energy in them that will attach to using Their piss with a bottom or sub. It's not just the bottom or sub who has negative conditioning to get past. i took to getting piss up my ass immediately. The first time, i held it in all night, fell asleep with my Tops piss in my gut. The next day when i peed, i could smell His piss impregnating my pee. That is fucking awesome, it's a true form of impregnation. Drinking is different, and others have given info that i'd only be repeating on what to drink, getting used to, etc.. For me? Getting over the quantity and taste is a matter of practice, developing a skill. The driving force for me is the natural need/desire in me to receive my Tops cock and what comes out of it, to give and receive His pleasure into me. To me, that is the connection and bond between Top/bottom, where each of our need/desire feeds the others. That's what i tap into to overcome any fear i may have about taste or quantity. i'm still in the learning process when it comes to drinking piss from my Tops cock, but again, that is just learning skill and technique, the desire of me and my Top is what fuels the learning effort... and that is very strong indeed.

i'm more into the energy than the age. Young twinks can be sweet to look at, but honestly, beauty can intimidate me. i want to be wanted as much as i want the person fucking me. For me, it really isn't just about the sex, but the symbiotic connectection where each of us is feeding the others need/desire. i've had some profound connections with anonymous fucks, pretty amazing to me how that can happen. Having said that, i am deeply into mind fuck and for me there can be some very hot mind fuck when a young twink Tops and seeds an older bottom. i love stuff that goes against the norm or stereotype. i'm pretty kinky. i've had a few twink fuck buddies who i grew to adore, and they obviously got off on what we had too. i currently have a young, 23? year old muscle Top, sort of a shy Latino Guy. He is really hot and He keeps contacting me wanting more. He could have whoever He wants, so i am mystified that He chooses me, but love the fuck out of Him. He's a quiet cummer, so i often do not know He has cum until He pulls out and leaves. Sometimes i think: "okay, i guess He didn't get off." Then i find a big load in me. Last time he told me He "only came once this time." So i guess He usually cums multiple times. But age really doesn't matter, though i acknowledge there can be differences. What matters to me is the energy and connection.

i guess i am lucky, i can be either. i'm not a gorilla, but left to its own devices, my body gets hairy. Not overly, but not slight either. Personally? i like being smooth... or i should say, i like when my Top likes me smooth. But for me, it's about the energy connection. If my Top is turned on by hairy, i'm gonna let it grow, if He likes it smooth, out comes the razor. Wanna collar a bit more sub in me? Then you do or arrange the shaving. Had a D/s relationship with a Man once who sent me to another sub to be waxed and prepped for Him. That was like putting a collar on my hole. But either is really connected to my Tops desires and energy, whatever cranks His lust up and fulfills His personal need in that area. As to what i like? Either is okay, but i love a smooth Top. For me there is a mind fuck to it because the association is "hairy is masculine, Male, Dom, Top, etc.," while smooth is associated with the opposite. One of my bigger mind fuck fantasies is a smooth shemale with a smooth body and cock who is Total Top. It's a mysterious one for me because i am not attracted to women at all, and not really talking a trans person here who identifies as a woman, it's more the mind fuck of it, that things are not what they seem. Having said that, i have seen some furry guys who just would not look right smooth. i did yoga with a guy who was covered in black fur and He was hot as hell, i wanted Him every time i say Him. So, i guess it's not so much a matter of hair or no hair for me, but who is wearing it and how it's worn, the energy behind it.

i get it, i got it as soon as i read your post, and you confirm it. i too work at a hospital, as a critical care nurse. There are often times when it seems like doctor or other provider is being flirty and i flirt right back. i have no idea if they are actually flirting or not, but i don't care anymore. If straights can do it, why can't we? Funny story. A couple of years ago there was this really cute doctor i was crushing on and who seemed to be flirty with me. i had not seen him for awhile and came back on rotation and he had transitioned into she. It was a funny/confusing moment for me because i was crushing on a person who identifies as a woman... and i'm a total bottom with no attraction to women. i told her and we had a pretty good laugh about it. i don't feel the 'falling for' feelings very often, but i am grateful for each time... and hope one day it will be mutual. i'd really like to be 'in love.'

Wow, 11 times? i'd need to get over it and rim you lol. But seriously, i know it doesn't disqualify a Top from being a Top, it's just a sort of extreme way i feel. i have a hard time even being with a Top who wants to suck me... there are work arounds, like when a Top sees and treats what i have as decidedly different from a cock. It's not particularly a reasonable thing on my part, just an emotional/psychological disposition. And i know Tops who feel the same way, almost have an aversion to a bottoms penis or being penetrated in any way. It brings out an almost visceral attraction to Him from me.

If the Top is quiet, i always wonder and have a little anxiety over whether or not He is enjoying Himself. If He is obviously enjoying Himself and vocal, i get totally pulled into His mood. If He is making love to me, i have to bite my mattress to keep from saying "i love you" (to a complete stranger? lol).

I appreciate the question and am following. i'm interested to see what Tops have to say in response. To me, Total Top means no penetration as all, doesn't receive cock orally or anally. And yeah, i know, a tongue is not a cock... but to me, psychologically, anything a Top wants to penetrate me with becomes His Cock. i know, weird, but it's how i feel. So i do not rim, to me that's penetration and a form of Topping. Just me, i don't think this is some sort of universal truth lol, but i am curious to see what other's have to say.

The poster also made a point of saying he is Asian... so (apparently) the "magic" was double. 😉

Personally, i like to have sex where both parties are considered, Top and bottom. Not everyone feels this way, so the first thing to determine is how you feel about this? i'm total bottom with some sub thrown in, so if a Man wants to fuck and breed me, i want to be fucked and bred by him. my ideal Top is a Man who gets into opening me and molding me to His cock as much as He gets into fucking and breeding me. i.e., it's not a one sided proposition for Him, not all about Him, but about us. Being in control can be self centered or considerate. Personally? a Top is going to penetrate and seed a whole lot more of me if He is the type who likes to open His bottom. i connect physical and psychological 'opening." But again, that's me (and apparently more than a few Tops), Having said that, it's not always a cut and dried scenario, especially in hook up sex. i had one Top FB who contacted me frequently wanting to breed me. Any Top who wants repeat breeding with me has already taken a certain amount of possession of me lol. This guy didn't have a particularly long Cock, but the girth was substantial. He was a breed and go kind of Top and did not take time to open me... or enough time to adequately open me. He wasn't mean about it, He just wanted to breed... and i wanted Him. The second time He contacted me, i hesitated, made an excuse because it had hurt the first time with Him (and i am not a neophyte lol). But i regretted putting Him off, so i got to the place where when He contacted me i'd open myself with a plug before He got to my house. That fixed it. Would i have rather He be the kind of Top who likes opening His bottom? Yeah, but He had me still, and i didn't want to say no, so i accommodated Him.

Yeah, it does read like you are falling for this guy. i'm not going to repeat what some others have said, of course, there are practical things to consider... but, it feels pretty great eh? To me, the feeling of falling for someone, whether it gets returned or not, is pretty special and sort of magical. It can be analyzed and discussed up one side and down the other, but i think there will always be elements of mystery when it comes to the feelings you describe. i hope you get to keep the feelings and that they are returned in some way, or at least acknowledged and respected. Even if the guy is straight and doesn't want a romantic relationship with you, if he has some maturity, he can still respect your feelings. And even if he has a girlfriend, there are more than a few Bi people out there in open relationships, so one never knows till they know. It's the 21st century, this guy is educated and as a ER doctor has been exposed to a lot of diversity, i'd be surprised if he would be offended if you shared how you feel. You don't have to come on to him to tell him you are interested, it would be just you being open and honest about who you are and how you feel. Yes, that is risky, but being open and vulnerable for the chance/potential of connection and bonding always carries risk. i wish you the best.

i have been around drugs my whole life. When i was 14, my older sister and her best friend adopted me as a sort of mascot. They took me to parties where everyone was 18-25 and they were all getting stoned. Lots of grass, mushrooms, peyote, hash. LSD, They offered, but i never partook. Watching them all when they were stoned, just wasn't interested. To this day i have never been stoned or drunk. i too have been interested in some of the described effects, but in my experience, those taking the drug look very different from what they describe. Especially those tweaking on meth. To me, it's hard to differentiate between a tweaker and someone having a schizophrenic episode, except tweakers seem more extreme. As a critical care nurse, we always have someone on the unit for meth. It's usually one of two things, they have blown out their brain and have altered mental status (AMS) that they just don't come back from, of partly recover from. The most frequent is congestive heart failure (CHF). Very common that when we do an echocardiogram on their heart, it has an ejection fraction (EF) of 15-25% (normal is 55-65%). 20% is around transplant level, but they do not qualify because of the meth use. Others who are shooting it often have sepsis as well, often get vegetative grown on their heart valves, again ofter blowing out their heart. Obviously people use it and do not end up in the hospital, but it seems like Russian roulette to me. If you're gonna play with drugs, i'd suggest you avoid meth, it's the one i see people get hospitalized for most frequently.

Great thread. Interesting to learn how universal flakes are. i'm with those who blame aps. And i think it has gotten progressive. i was around when AOL started the online hookup ball rolling. i met a tall, wiry black man who i fell head over heals for: "Kirby." OMG, He was gorgeous, inside and out, i loved everything about Him. i also got a descent amount of actual connection on CL when it was still available, but i also watched it get progressively worse. i think the whole online hookup scene devolved into what it is today, that online, over time, caused a sort of de-evolution of civility and manners. It removes an element of responsibility. People say and do things online that they would never do in real life, and that doesn't just apply to gay hook up. i think that is also starting to bleed over into real life. i'm a critical care nurse, and verbal and physical assault on nurses is on the rise. i think a lot of this has been facilitated by the invisible, anonymous online opportunities. It's safer for people to exercise their true colors, and i think emboldens some to bring it into 'real life.' In a way, i don't think it's particularly new, i think "flakes" have always been out there, but online has provided them a venue? Prior to the pandemic, i had pretty much given up on Aps for hook ups, i'd go to the local ABS and usually could get fucked 4 or 5 times in short order. i'd rather be with a guy while lying prone and naked on my own bed. But "flakes" are a lot less common at ABS (though some go there too). SInce the pandemic? Have only been with fuck buddies and more recently i think i may be on the verge of having an actual boyfriend... and i am pretty damned excited about the prospect. He's pretty damned awesome.

Total Top Self aware and open articulate/good communicator kinky Soft dominant/mind fucker wants quality sex more than quantity sex

i think this is often a supply and demand question? ideally, i'd like to be the bottom half of a Total Top/total bottom relationship, and develop a union where He could have it any time He wanted/needed. i want quality over quantity and find that when i am doing the quantity thing, it's because i am getting the quality part in pieces. When cruising places are available, it's not unusual for me to take 4 or 5 cocks in a short time, but the pandemic and online has cut that kind of hook up way back. Even online seemed a lot more productive in its earlier days. But for me, quantity without connection has lost a lot of its appeal. i'd much rather have less sex and with one Guy than more sex with lots of guys because the connection with quick hook up is usually shallow or minimal. i'm kinky, and it takes some relationship for guys with kinks to develop all the myriad ways two men can connect sexually. i find i have sex a lot more, and a lot better, when i have a FB and we click, are compatible, because we get to know each others desires and that provides more ways to have sex, so more and better sex happens.

i had sex with a guy in Palm Springs a few years ago, he had no legs, only about 4 inch stumps. It was great, just different. i touched him everywhere, including His stumps and it brought tears to His eyes, He really liked it and told me no-one ever touched Him there. i touch legs, especially love a Mans thighs, and that was what He had. Unfamiliar can feel strange, but it isn't strange, just unfamiliar to us. It's familiar to the person and it is their normal. Since it is their normal, i think we are more disabled than they are when interacting.

About 10 minutes ago. Covid has been tough for all of us, me included. As a Covid nurse, i have tried to be responsible and do not frequent the places i did before. i do have some FB's though, and one young Latino muscle jock who texts me frequently. He is spontaneous and i am often at work and can't, but He never gives up, and i really love Him. He is so sweet. He texted me Monday, and i was at work, but let Him know i'd be off starting today. First thing this morning, He texts me, so i prep and tell Him i will be waiting as usual, on my bed ass up and door open. He always comes in, mounts and breeds me that way. This time, for some reason, He put a condom on... which He never has before. A few minutes, and it breaks, probably the elbow grease lube? idk, but He asks if i have another and i tell Him i would rather have His bare cock and take His load, He didn't hesitate and slid on in. It's been awhile for both of us, and He unloaded in me pretty quickly. He is quiet when He cums, i have to listen for it, it's a sweet sigh and He keeps fucking after. His load is in me now, i am reallllly happy.

love all the great answers, great topic! Sometimes daily, sometimes several days. i have all sorts of different underwear, lots of jocks, thongs, and larger variety of marketed to gay underwear brands that a former Dom friend bought for me. Have some lace panties that were also gifts from Top friends. Mostly i wear these really cute briefs that practically scream "fag." It's funny that i wear them "under,' which is where the fag in me is as well apparently, since no one can even tell i'm gay. i used to wear boxers, but a couple of years ago i had a short relationship with a Dom (who i am still friends with, we had dinner in Portland last night). He 'instructed' that i should never wear boxers, that only Tops wear boxers, and it stuck for some reason. He had me put them in a bottom drawer of my dresser, and they have been there ever since. i don't particularly like the feel, but something about briefs makes me feel caged, and that appeals to something in me. i try to be scrupulously clean there, unless my Top wants it otherwise. i was off after going, so the back part of my underwear are clean. The front starts to smell like pee after awhile, but my head is not into my own pee, to me it's just waste. If my Top were to piss or come on them, i'd probably never wash or change them.

Some great thoughts Eros. i was leaning more towards Him getting of on putting me in a position where i had to do those things. For me, it's just an everyday occurrence that i do not give a second thought to, but every now and then, it is apparent that some guys (and women) are excited by what's happening. It makes sense, there are plenty of kinky people out there, it stands to reason that they end up in hospitals too. His penis getting erect is not all that uncommon, but the cleaning His ass was a first... that i knew of. With covid patients, we have in the room heart monitors, so i was able to see what was going on with his heart rate while touching him. Usually do not see the monitor when that sort of thing is happening. But it was so extreme, His heart rate literally doubled while i was touching him, and went down soon after i was done, by the same amount. Particularly striking because he was very sick, and most people don't feel very sexual when sick.

The guy at the gay resort was the one who rejected me after learning i was poz. Gotta admit, it did sting because He got hold of a piece of my heart. He had type one diabetes and His comment to me was: "i don't need another disease to deal with." He was really a nice guy, not mean at all, i think He just blurted without thinking first. i actually think He was disappointed because i think the connection went both ways, that He really liked me too. i think it was part ignorance too, so many still do not grasp that HIV undetectable and on meds is one of the 'safer' guys to be with if one is concerned about not getting HIV. my jaw dropped (internally) and i said nothing, it would have been pathetic of me to do so, to try and explain why i was worth having, i don't think he even connected that he had just reduced me to a disease. But though it stung, it wasn't debilitating for me. my sense of self worth doesn't depend on him or anyone else. As a bottom with a fair amount of sub, i love the connection i can have with a Top, and they can wield a lot of power with me, but i only want someone who wants me, and that was not the case here. Thanks for your sweet thoughts.

This is kind of a strange story that could go here. i'm a critical care nurse, so i interact with people when they are in some very vulnerable situations. i had a covid patient awhile back, he was very sick and the only way we could keep from intubating him was for hims to stay in the "proning" position (i.e. prone, on his stomach). He had bouts of diarrhea, but was to sick to turn over and get on a bed pan, so he had a diaper on, but that wasn't on very well most of the time because of all the tubes and how it made his blood oxygen level go down just to move him to put it on. He wanted to stay uncovered, because he was hot, so most of the time i went into his room, his ass was half exposed. He was married (to a woman) and she'd call me 3x a day for updates on his condition, so it was not like he was openly gay or bi. But i started to notice He liked when i held the urinal for him to pee. He had a tiny cock, but it grew noticeably when i was helping him pee. At one point, when i was assessing for pain, he told me His shoulder hurt, so i massaged it for him and as i was doing so, he told me his lower back hurt, so i massaged that too,. While i was doing that, he told me he that he had "leaked" (diarrhea) and needed cleaning up, so i lowered his diaper and used wipes on him. Thing is, there was nothing there, he had not "leaked" at all. i had him connected to a heart monitor, and he consistently ran brady cardia (his heart rate was usually in the low 50's). i noticed as soon as i started wiping his ass that His heart rate went up to the 120's, he was obviously excited. i took my time and was thorough, After i finished 'cleaning" him his heart rate returned to the 50s. It was a strange experience for me, but not unheard of. i've had more than a few guy patients i suspect were getting off on some aspect of our interaction. i'm a total bottom, so i can see the "faggot" on either side of this one? He might have been getting off using me that way, idk. Stimulating a guys ass is not something i ever do as a bottom, i don't rim, finger, anything like that, and of course this was not even part of the situation, i was his nurse caring for him. But it was obvious he was sexually excited from me holding the urinal and from wiping his (clean) ass, both of which had elements of humiliation being in that kind of position.

wouldn't that be flipping it outside in?

Not necessarily at a sauna, but i have had this happen a (comparatively) few times with anonymous hook ups. i've had thousands of those, and the guys i have "fallen" for i could probably count on 2 hands, so there is something unique and special about it, though i cannot exactly say what? It's more/different than sex or lust, i've had enough of that to know the difference. For me, it has been an energy, a connection that goes beyond physcal feel or appearance, with several of the guys, i did not even see them because i was on my stomach. But i have literally had to bite my mattress to keep from blurting "i love you" to a few guys. There was one anonymous guy who was a regular FB that i fell pretty hard for, again, never saw Him but i loved Him. He stopped breeding me after i became poz. i told Him and he thanked me for telling Him, but it ended after that. i still miss Him, not just the breeding, but Him. Another Top picked me up at a gay resort and we spent the weekend together. He was a Dom of the 'coach' variety. He was very affectionate and affirming, in a sort of degrading way. He was really insightful and skilled and He regressed me to being His "good boy." Was a total mind fuck for me, a first and have yet to ever experience that again, it was very real. my emotional response to Him was adoration, fell really hard for Him, and i think He liked me too, but rejected me after finding out i'm poz.

As others have noted, this is more an estimate than a real number. i've been taking cock for 40 years. A cock a day would put me at the ~15000 mark. There have been years where taking anonymous cock was a daily thing. And given the places and nature of taking anonymous cock, it's not been unusual for me to have had 5 to 15 cocks in a day at a cruise spot or GH. CL used to be a good source for me, i'd run an ad for anonymous walk in at my house and those ad's often got 3-5 cocks. Accounting for off days, i suspect i am somewhere in the 4-6K range? Maybe more. edit: i wouldn't mind having the same Guy in my life, part of me wishes for Him. Some of those numbers include repeat fuck buddies, but the majority have been anonymous cock, probably 90% i didn't even see the Top because i was on my stomach or ass to a GH.

This is from aidsmap, which does a good job i think providing evidence based information about HIV/aids. One of the things that causes lots of confusion in healthcare is authority and/or speculative vs evidence based information on healthcare topics. I.e., people, even legitimate lettered scientists, will draw conclusions or speculate based on their expertise (or lack of the same) instead of study based evidence. That kind of speculation is not without value, it's how theories get traction, theories that will hopefully be tested in quality, large double blind randomized studies that result in evidence, and then hopefully those studies get independently replicated by other scientists and it all gets published in reputable scientific journals where the entire population of scientists can scrutinize the results. Scientific evidence is not immutable 'truth', it's the best we know right now. The only place one can get "immutable truth" is at church (that's tongue in cheek guys). Meanwhile, evidence based is considered by most scientists to be the gold standard. "Key points HIV drug resistance can only arise in PrEP users if they take PrEP when they already have HIV. This is why you should get tested for HIV before you start PrEP, and keep testing regularly. If you take PrEP as directed, you won’t catch HIV, you won’t develop drug resistance, and PrEP will continue to work. A study has found that, in a largely gay HIV-positive population with adequate treatment levels, at most one in 500 cases of HIV infection featured a virus that might possibly be resistant to PrEP. There are differing views on how much PrEP use will add to the burden of HIV drug resistance. But its contribution will be small, compared to the impact of lack of support for adherence and for regular viral load testing in people living with HIV." [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/prep-and-drug-resistance

i love this. i'm one of those bottoms who will clean out all the way to my mouth it seems lol. The worst thing for me is a Top who is turned off. i love how you get that "trash talk" can open a bottom... well, it does me. A Top telling me about His desires to penetrated me is the only thing that makes me hard. i get hard and my hole practically twitches. if a guy talks about using my penis it stays soft, so to me it seems sort of like a womans that gets engorged when a Man is wanting to fuck. A Top talking to me about getting into my hole opens it right up, and a probing tongue will at first meet a little resistance and then my hole goes the opposite way and relaxes and opens, giving in immediately. The only thing that may make me tighten is a dry finger. Really, finger, dildo, tongue, words, all can be "cock" when the Top delivering them is connected to what He is doing, i can feel the difference and i think it's the Tops energy and connection to what He is doing is what latches on to my desire (need?) to open and submit to Him.