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Just a very random guess/ outside possibility - has she worked out that you definitely are gay? It can be a big attraction. I'm told being ordained into the Catholic Church suddenly makes guys v popular with women. In both cases (if one sees them as two) it's got something to do with wanting the unobtainable and the fact that it's unthreatening - things won't go that far. There was a monk who actually just died recently but in his lifetime managed to be a very unlikely womaniser. Women would assume he was gay and so try to "tempt" him, he wasn't and said thank you very much. Like the others, I'd stay well clear. Just pointing out it might be not be desperate as much as what she's into - your appeal may be greater (consciously or not) for being gay.. My wife, for example, is genuinely surprised when she hears the news that yet another one of her ex boyfriends has come out as gay. I would be genuinely amazed if any of them turned out to be straight.

Some of these I've mentioned before, but - the guy who cums inside me then lectures me on how I mustn't do bb sex - the guy who continually messages me in my 45 minute taxi ride to meet him, then switches his phone off the minute I arrive - the guy who thought me, my bf and our friend had cut his hands off (but somehow latched onto me as the least evil of the hand-cutting bastards) - the guy who turns out to be quite seriously physically handicapped (actually had some sympathy - could see how it might be difficult for him otherwise)... and are we calling it the "sunk cost" fallacy? (ie sucking him off as I was there even though I woudn't have met - putting it another way, he had correctly assessed my sluttiness and so his plan worked ) - the guy who said he' d been banned from the hotel for making a complaint; I was sympathetic until he explained his complaint was that there were people in the ceiling spying on him; - the guy who sits there not doing anything transfixed by porn but who refuses to leave even when I pull the plug on the porn (thankfully in a hotel - left myself and made him the hotel staff's problem) - the guy who only wanted to interrogate me about what other white bttm guys I knew (I tried to point out I really knew top guys; I didn't point out that I wouldn't him loose on any even if I did) - the guy who didn't mention that I'd be doing the walk of shame in front of his mother when I left the room (thankfully not as bad as it could be, her English being about as good as my Cantonese) - the guy who liked to give a running commentary on what he was doing and so made it clear his tastes were more straight really (not a problem) were of a Jeffrey Epstein variety (rather more of a problem) and wanted me to pretend that that is who I was (I big problem); I was crap when cast as Ophelia at my all boys school; my acting hasn't improved (in which role - obviously - I wasn't also being fucked when attempting that role). - the guy who messages me all day before our meet (for which I'd booked a hotel) then cums in 30 seconds; - the guy who only wants to bite me - which ends up as bizarre negotiation "ok, one more bite then I get to suck for a bit" (like the previous comment says, I somehow thought it a good idea to meet him again - no surprises, he hadn't changed) - the foursome which turned into two singing and playing Elton John songs on a piano missing one note (admittedly quite well - you hardly noticed the missing note) while me and the remaining guy tried to continue fucking in the next door room (even quite skilful "Candle In The Wind" wasn't really quite in the right mood). (made up for a little by the fact they thought I was a hooker coz I agreed to come over immediately and with so few questions - the compliment all the better for being unintended ) (London that one, anyone trying it in HK would get complaints about the noise). Good thread though. It cheers me up - sometimes it feels like the fruitcakes are all here in HK.

At risk of being dull, my serious answer would be reminders of what slutty things I should be doing - otherwise things like work can sometimes make me forget. Never had much of a problem being a zoo exhibit, mind you. I agree that a blindfold helps - it makes you more in touch with your feelings and less distracted by anything that's going on. It probably encourages a few of the more shy tops too (they do exist..). I speak from memory...not too much chance of it here in hk right now...

The more they do so, the more there is for the rest of us. Whether it's race or anything else, guys with comically prescriptive criteria should be encouraged, I say.

I agree. It is certainly how I always treat people. There's only one problem. I get very turned on by people who do not respect me. Let me give an example. Apologies, it's one I've mentioned before but it illustrates the point well. Once upon a time I only did safe - by which I mean almost paranoid safe - sex. Thickest condoms, continually checking they were on etc etc. Then this guy says "can I put it in bare, no fucking just put it in" I thought ok - no harm in that. I knew he would start to try and fuck - and when he did I would insist he put the condom on. Only I was wrong. Amazingly - I still don't know how - he did exactly what he said. His cock was completely still with no attempt to fuck at all. Only after - literally - about 5 minutes completely still I feel him cum in me. Ï've cum" is what he said. Now from any consent perspective, it's probably just about consensual but it's still pretty shitty behaviour. It's the complete opposite of decorum and respect. And I reacted accordingly - told my bf - who was downstairs with the guys bf - we were leaving, And generally acted as if I was pissed off. But I wasn't. It was a complete act. I was massively turned on. For the whole taxi ride back I couldn't think of anything except his cum inside me. And of course a little later I got in touch and suggested another meet. (an aside, but divine retribution may have come into play then - because that time I had an epileptic fit which scared the hell out of him). In a way I wish it was otherwise. And that I got turned on by people who were super-respectful and checked I was ok at every point. But sexual desire doesn't work like that. I'm not sure I agree with the broad definitions of rape either. Sex is a series of interconnected actions. Quite how guys know I consented may be a mystery, but it quickly becomes apparent that I do. Unlike rape where the opposite is clear immediately. So like I say, they are completely different. But it seems a little more nuanced to me. Let's not get into the coherence debate. As I see it, if I can consent in advance to surgery when I'm unconscious, I can consent to sex. Any court that says otherwise, is not applying the meaning of consent. It's a judge ignoring my decision and substituting his instead (or hers - but almost certainly his) -something they have been doing for centuries. (from Oscar Wilde to R v Brown in UK). To be fair it's just not their thing. Like the one who thought the appeal of bareback was about saving money - not spending on condoms. Or at least if they do have greater understanding. they're sure as hell not going to admit it...

ok Im going to voice an unpopular opinion. I think the two situations may be closer than some think. I know I am very - I mean very - turned on when guys just go ahead ignoring whether I consent or not. Technically, it probably is a crime. The diifference between that and rape isn't lack of consent - it's whether there would have been consent if it had been sought. In my case, yes, obviously. In a rape, obviously not. There may also be a different motive - rape done to hurt the victim; while in my case as it turns me on, it was most likely done for that reason too. So I agree it is completely different. It is just outwardly it does look very similar. Neither seeking consent, nor it's being a crime is the difference. Gloryholes I agree are completely different. Consent is obvious there - not easy to imagine how they could make it more obvious. Also, without doing any sort of research on it, I can't help feel that more guys than women are into being fucked anon. If there is any equivalent of Hampstead Heath frequented by women, I'm not aware of it. Though in fairness I haven't been looking either.

Almost everything. Does the black guy have to be top? Can't they ever break the big cock/ugly face ratio? Do the white guys have to be orange? Does the whole thing have to be so predictable and unreal? Oh and that bit at the beginning when they talk - not as bad as the acting maybe but still pretty pointless... I'd rather watch something real any day...

I don't mind people with no pics themselves. But the ones who ask "More pics?" Nothing says "timewaster" like "more pics".

Roof of a block of flats in Hong Kong. Didn't end as planned though - I didn't realise I wasn't meant to shut the fire exit. My friend's horniness when he realised we were stuck had to call a friend to come and rescue us. I did the BDSM test thing recently. It told me I was 100% exhibitionist. It came as a surprise - I'd never really thought of it like that. For someone more perceptive, I suspect the clues were there...

Yes, I'm definitely a faggot. Unlike others though, I don't see myself as "queer". Add up the women and all the gay boys and you've got a clear majority. It's the ones who say they don't like being fucked who seem the weirdos to me.

The same thought had occurred to me - I was just thinking more along the lines of full latex bodysuit from Aliexpress.

To me he could be Kermit the Frog and I would still find it hot. The mere fact he can do it is a turn on. It's only happened a couple of times. It's obviously unethical - I just crave more. It's a long shot, but if anyone knows me and is being held back by ethical constraints, please, just go for it....

Remember, when people look back on their life with regret, it's almost always what they haven't done that's the problem. I certainly regret not having any sex at all until the age of 25 far more than any I have had since. My younger self was far far too frightened of people like me to have listened. Truth be told, neither of us is great at following advice.

I'm usually - in fact almost always - bottom. However, I've got this one fuckbuddy who likes 3p - and because he's top the other guys he invites to join are invariably bottom. No probs. It's only that then he will start ordering me (he's very top) - that I must not fuck and cum inside this guy while he's in the shower. It it then starts to grow on me as an Idea. That said, he doesn't seem to mind it too much when it happens and - obviously - none of the bottom guys have minded too much either.

Add Locanto to the list of competitors which don't quite work. Quite how their near 100% flake rate is a mystery to me. You're better off posting something permissible but cryptically hinting on new CL, gets it and taking it from there. The trouble with anon fuck buddies, is it's hard to stay anon for that long. Most of my regular FBs started off as anon but inevitably the blindfold started to slip....

Really? How about "I know bareback sex is not everyone's thing but...". Among bottoms I'd put it near 100% for either - if by "thing" you mean finding it hot. Numbers for actually doing it might be lower (at least anon). Who doesn't miss Craigslist?

Nice to see the account before it goes though. Isn't the furious post a bit like the notices you used to see in local newspapers in the North of Scotland "Mr and Mrs Pirie would like it to be known that their daughter Morag has not been sleeping with Ian McTavish?" Or am I missing something?

Married 24 years With bf 16 years I guess I must be getting quite old... I went from being straight/homophobic, to straight/interested to bi to top to bottom (vers bttm depending on mood). I'm not sure my life is normal, but I'd rather be happy than normal. I found it impossible to predict who would be ok with it and who would not. Straight friends have been great; gay ones not great. Thankfully, I had no very bad reactions. I found the process showed me who my real friends were. Like the rich, the straight know not who are their friends.

Love it! The genius of capitalism Even if is a bit steep for me too. I've never done it, but it can't be difficult DIY. So far thoughts are Hard wall or soft - I'm guessing soft: it's only to stop them seeing. Less of a problem for smaller cocks too. Easily removable or not - I'm guessing removable. While GH is hot, you want to keep the option of conventional fuck open too if the wall was hindering more than helping. Size/position of hole - look on xvideos or whatever, but I'm guessing fairly small. Too big and it's no longer hot/anonymous - a cheapish fabric wall would also give you the option of enlarging it a bit as you go. These are just guesses. Someone on here must have done it for real. Is there much more to it than a frame with hole? The toughest question is how to tell people about it now Craigslist is gone - if I'm right in thinking much of the appeal is to straight/married/horny at closing time type guys. I

Like everyone else, I agree, it's hot and a turn on. It's about being submissive and controlled. I've only had one on for short periods during play. Would love to do it for longer in daily life - the challenge of, say, the swimming pool changing room would be hot. Hard to know whether it would be a problem or an opportunity.

Having a type means you can compliment someone and appear slightly less slutty. No need to define it narrowly. I can truthfully say someone is exactly my type - provided, of course, that they are a man and alive. No need to spoil it by telling them the detail.

I've been topped by plenty of much younger guys - it's always hot. I'm a bit surprised you're finding it difficult. I can't think of many who'd say no to a 19 yo top...

He might want that too. My money would be on that rather than protection...

I echo what others have said. I've been (I'm sure) hypnotised in a very odd hookup that I've mentioned on here before. What was oddest in my case how little the guy did after all he'd done to get me into that half-conscious state of mind. The pleasure for him must have been having the power, not what he did with it. He knew he didn't have to hypnotise me to get his cock sucked. Anyone else would just invite me over. Some people will say that you cant be hypnotised at all, others that you can be but not unknowingly. I don't know. But my experience tells me both are wrong. The fact that they can't do it does not mean it can't be done. I forget what they call it, but there is a term for hypnotising people unawares and people who say they have done it. Unethical, sure; illegal, probably. It's still a big turn on for me - largely because of what the guy did. Obviously the ones who say they can do such things might be crazy pr wrong - or so might I be. I can't completely rule out that he did nothing and it's just my mind playing tricks (it's too long ago to remember, but maybe it had been a stressful week at work). Another possibility, maybe slightly more likely is that he might have put something in my drink. But even then, he must have been at least acting out a hypnosis fantasy. One thing I do remember is waking up when he repeated a particular phrase. I've just never heard of anyone slipping them rohypnol and then trying to bring them round with the magic words - still less of it working when they did. Probably because of how it played out with me, I come at it almost from opposite perspective of ErosWired. Whatever it was, I loved that he could do it. It was the only hot part of what was otherwise between tame and lame. While I don't know what it was, I loved that he could do it. I just wish he'd done something more twisted or unethical when he had the chance. I would agree, be aware and don't let others push you into anything you dont want to do. But the opposite is true too - if the idea turns you on and it is what you want to do and your instinct says go for it, then do. I'd love it if guys could somehow take control of me and my mind. Sadly - and strange as it was - what the guy did in my case, just confirms I did nothing I wouldn't have done anyway. Likewise, the whole forces of darkness idea, I find a turn on - it would be even more of one If I actually believed it. So sorry - long answer without much in terms of an answer. ps 1 I'm from rural north of Scotland and was a virgin (who thought he was straight) until my late twenties; I don't think made my instincts any different or any worse for it. Trust your judgment - it may not be right the whole time but its as good as anyone's and always your most reliable guide. I've never noticed any correlation between good judgment and how built up it is where you live. ps 2 I've always thought the word substitution thing flatters the former governor of Alaska. The antichrist is evil not stupid. He has worshipers too - but let's lets not get sidetracked into American politics.

Contradictory as it sounds I agree with both the earlier comments (1) that he will probably want u to fuck him before too long and (2) that he could easily be straight - he doesn't have to be gay. I met up again with a guy I'd been at (all boys, boarding) school with. He said he had sex more than 400 times when he was at the school (the keeping count impressed me almost as much as the act - my score for the same period was zero). In the 20 years since, he's had plenty of sex, always with women, never with a guy. I'd say he was straight but would choose sex with guys if it was that or no sex at all. So to your guy, the attraction of gay sex to your guy be its availability - and that he can just have sex (or even sex with friendship, but either way without pressure for more). I suspect, though that he's not - speaking as someone who (a) is married (b) who used (really, genuinely) to think I was straight (explaining the 0 fucks when my friend had 400); and (c) then even when I realised I was gay thought at first I was top (i'm not). The thing to remember is that your guy might be straight or he might not know what he is himself. Friends worked out I was gay long before I did. Ok, so I may be slow on the uptake (5 years in an all male school - talk about wasted opportunities), but I'm probably not uniquely stupid. If you find it intriguing, my bet is he finds it doubly so. ps, final thought, if he's up for it, does it really need categorisation?