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My position has not changed over time, but I have definitely noticed a trend towards bottoms on the hookup apps over the last 10 years. I also think there has been a lesser trend towards bottoming for in person cruising as well, but also a trend away from guys actually seeking any kind of casual anal sex. Even here on BZ I think there has been a trend towards more fantasy postings than postings about fucking that has actually taken place or fucks that guys are realistically trying to make happen in real time.

There is a lot of complaining about a lack of tops, and that they are becoming even scarcer in the gay casual sex world. So I'm curious what your current position is for casual sex, and if and how it has changed over time. By casual sex I mean random hookups with other men from either the hookup apps or in person cruising. Please reply with the reason your position has changed if it has changed. I picked 10 years If I see some interesting trends I may add some additional polls. If anyone else sees something please feel free to add a follow up poll as well.

My only suggestion, which doesn't seem to be very welcome, is to try exploring your versatile side too. I am truly versatile, but wind up topping 2x3 times as many guys as I get to fuck me. Because so few guys are willing to even consider topping 80-90% of my time and effort goes into looking for guys willing to top, too. I've also pointed out, to many total bottoms disgust, that if I'm at an orgy my load will likely get squirted into a guy who is willing to give me one in return. I think I've heard all of the arguments, about why guys want to be total bottoms, but the fact is the very nature of having gay tendencies means there are very few gay or bi men that don't want to bottom at least occasionally. I can understand that maybe you prefer bottoming, but you also need to consider that if no one is even willing to consider topping, no one can get fucked no matter how much they like to bottom.

@SeanBrah what is stopping you from offering your holes on the social media platforms that the MAGA favor? You could also go to their "rallies" and actually offer them your holes in realtime. I know here they have truck parades that disturb the users of several parks every weekend. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, perhaps you should consider the reason.

Any parties or good locations for Tuesday or Thursday nights? I'm not going to be free until 8:30 on Wednesday night.

I had an interesting observation, from a Cumunion party last night. It was the 1st one at Steam. Guys were actually fucking each other and ignoring the guys that were just there to pose. One of the regular posers, always very tan, manscaped, wears his towel almost like a chastity device but usually appears to be sporting a hard on, also older and heavier than the average guy at this club, and never has sex. He must have been feeling the lack of attention for just standing around looking arrogant for a change. While I was fucking a guy in the sling they have in an open play area, he grabbed one of the hotter twinks that was watching. Arrogant poser looked extremely uncomfortable during the entire encounter, but the twink did get him to remove his towel, trade some brief sucking before the twink bent over and got arrogant poser to fuck him, it lasted at most 2 minutes and I'm sure arrogant poser did not cum before they stopped. I'm pretty sure it was the twink who stopped it. I'm also almost certain that the entire motive for arrogant poser to initiate sex in a crowded orgy space was to try to get guys to pay attention to him, so he could keep stringing them along to satisfy his ego, not because he needed to satisfy a sexual need. I happen to know the hot twink he chose is a good fuck and versatile.

I went to the Cumunion at Steam last night. It was the 1st time they have hosted one. Even on a Thursday night it drew a large crowd, and there was a lot more fucking happening than usual. While as far as the amount of sex, it would have been a slow Thursday night in many cities, but there was more fucking happening at Steam than happens on a great weekend night. I saw regulars fucking or getting fucked that I have never even seen touch another member. One young guy that I had been watching over the last year, took 4 loads that I saw, prior to last night I had no idea what his sexual position was (it's too bad he doesn't appear to be versatile).

It actually went pretty well. There was even an orgy with multiple couples fucking that lasted at least half an hour, which may be a record for Steam. 2 guys went home with my loads in their asses and I have one load in my hole. Maybe we can improve upon it and get an actual dog pile orgy fuck going instead of just 2 or 3 couple going at it next to each other.

I don't really have a preference. If it is at a sex club being presented to fuck and I have a hard on, I will fuck it.

I won't be paying to use a site where most of the local ads are just for guys looking for buddies to hang out with. I've never even seen a local ad that I even had an interest in responding to.

I don't usually make political comments on this platform, but as someone who leans pretty far small-l libertarian and mostly voted Republican before Trump completely upended the party's focus. I'm really curious what the people that think Trump would do to solve the inflation dilemma would be doing? I know he hasn't actually publicly prescribed any actual policies so I think any ideas about what he might do are purely speculative. Because Trump hasn't put forth any suggestions, and he has managed to keep an iron grip on currently serving Republicans aren't going to introduce any legislation that is not fully approved by Trump. I think he would either with or without authorization from congress try to implement price controls a la Nixon in 1970 (Nixon did have congressional authorization). Even in the hands of reasonably competent experts and leadership Nixon's actions led to shortages and long waiting lists for goods and services that we are already experiencing today. In addition to that problem, Trump has shown through his 4 year term a penchant to try to control the micro through "deals" with companies and individuals rather than focusing on the macro, which if any government led solution is possible on inflation it will have to come from macro policy. As a libertarian, I would expect you to be firmly against intervention at either the micro or macro levels. Another huge problem I have giving Trump the authority to attempt to deal with it is his history as a businessman. Trump's "great personal wealth" may or may not be more than illusion, but either way the perception of it has been created by taking the cash flow from a long line of failed business ventures. Companies he has controlled have declared bankruptcy 6 times. Many more have defaulted on the debts, almost all of them have negotiated with creditors to pay them pennies on the dollar owed, and numerous others have shut down after he took the customers money without providing the agreed upon goods or services, including the outright fraudulent enterprises that had to be shut down by multiple states (Trump University is just the tip of the iceberg in that area). None of which give me confidence the "fabulously wealthy businessman" has any hope of navigating the global economic currents that are driving this bout of inflation, let alone preventing or reversing it. The MAGA have been insisting for 6 years now that it is a "binary choice" where we have to pick the "least of the evils". Guess what, right now that is the Democrats. The Democrats have not pledged total fealty and discretion on policy to a single individual, that is in my opinion the most seriously flawed major party leader in US history. They have not claimed election fraud and refused to accept the results of an election, even after almost 2 years of failure to provide evidence of the fraud that has standing in a court of law. No Democrats have condoned an active revolt against the constitutional republic on the scale of the January 6th, 2021 insurrection, since the Civil War ended in 1865. Trump has been very successful at removing the philosophical and policy reasons I mostly voted Republican in the past, so at this point I don't have much in common with either party. Some of my biggest disappointments with Biden are that he has left the Trump tariffs and caps on legal immigration in place, both of which are contributing to the current inflation problem. I don't think that Biden should have followed through on Trump's withdrawal from Afghanistan. I am at least thankful that Biden opposed Putin's invasion of Ukraine, and firmly believe Trump would have actively worked to hand the Ukraine over to Russia, and actively undermined NATO efforts to keep it an independent nation. Small-l libertarianism "live and let live" approach only works if a majority is willing to heed the "do no harm to others" component of the philosophy. MAGA will not tolerate the "do no harm to others" part nor can they be shamed into even considering what harm they may be doing.

I didn't count the top, bottom and versatile responses, but I'm guessing the respondents to this thread are at least 50% bottom to versatile bottom. As a true versatile, I think there are some things bottoms (and total tops to a lesser extent) should consider. 1. Bottoms can get bred as many times in the same day as they can find someone to breed them. However very few men can cum more than a handful of times in the same day, and the reality is for a majority of guys it is only once. Since casual gay sex has returned to barebacking there has been a strong emphasis on taking the load instead of just enjoying having a dick in your ass. If you want to get more dick you will have to accept that you aren't going to get bred by every cock that plows you. 2. Orgies work best with lots of versatile guys that switch back and forth. Gangbangs may be hot to someone who is primarily a bottom, but by keeping the focus on just one bottom you are limiting the inspiration for the versatile guys. For example if I'm at a really active orgy, both fucking and getting fucked, I can keep going for hours and will cum 3 or 4 times. If I'm at a gangbang, I'm probably not going to get hard again after I cum the 1st time. 3. While versatile guys may actually fuck 2 or 3 times as many guys as we get fucked by, but because +50% of guys having casual sex are almost exclusively bottom, we spend 2 or 3 times as much time and effort trying to get fucked. Which on the hookup apps or even in person cruising skew the perception of the balance even more. The skew gets magnified even more by versatile guys that only top for specific types, and there are a lot of versatile guys that only top guys that are smaller, younger, hotter and etc.

I'm an all natural lube guy, spit for the 1st fuck and then cum there after. I really don't like it when I stick my dick in a guy that has packed his hole full of artificial lube or insists on lubing his dick or my hole with that nasty stuff. The flip side is I occasionally run into some one who won't fuck without some kind of artificial lube.

I'm versatile, soI wasn't interpreting this as applying exclusively topping. By my definition, a guy with ED can still fuck by getting fucked.

I think I reached my maximum sluttyness between 30-35. It has not decreased at any point. I will be 53 in a few weeks.

To me those numbers look pretty good in general, I'm in complete awe if you can regularly do that well in either Seattle bathhouse (it might even force me to rethink that I'm the problem in the PNW). Of the cities you list that I'm familiar, with you could probably double it in LA, and could have at the now closed Vulcan in San Diego. I've only been to Club San Diego once, but at least during my visit, it was as sexless as Steamworks in Seattle. I also have decent luck at the sex resorts in Palm Springs and Las Vegas bathhouses. I would encourage you to go to one of the Sanctuary LAX gay sex parties, it is not a bathhouse so there are no private rooms or even spaces, all play is public so it does not attracted many guys with inhibitions. They typically only have 1 sling, and at least if the party is a Cumunion party it can get heavy use, so you will both need to be courteous of others that want to use it, and wait your turn.

I'm curious, which bathhouses you have tried it at? I'm not familiar at all with the bay area, but am at least little familiar with southern California.

@KylerIsTrash and @hntnhole I think there is definitely a regional context on guys hooking up in the PNW. There are an incredible number of unwritten rules based on some extreme inhibitions that guys follow here. For a long time after moving to Portland, I thought I had to be looking in the wrong places. I was spending twice as much time looking and was really lucky if I was getting even a third of the sex I was used to. After a year or so of flying to new random cities during the week and easily finding guys to bang my brains out with, unless the other city was in the northwestern US or western Canada, I figured out it probably wasn't me. While my experience with Seattle is more limited than it is with Portland, it is extensive enough for me to feel safe in saying Seattle is even more extreme in this regard than Portland. As a fully versatile guy, I will also readily admit that it is a hurdle to attract tops to fuck a bottom in a sling even in a city where public and group sex are normal occurrences. Like hntnhole, I love finding slutty bottom in the sling, but think bottoms aggressively trying to get fucked intimidates a lot of top and versatile guys. I think the guys that approach and fuck you in a public sling have to be secure and comfortable in our own sluttiness.

You may be missing something, I've found out I just fucked or got fucked by a guy more than 30 years younger recently. All of them were in sex clubs, I have sympathy for them, if I had lived here in my 20's I think I would have gone crazy from not being able to hookup.

I cringe when I see a post with information that could be used to actually identify someone.

I hadn't noticed that bottoms did better better on the fuck benches, at least in Portland they have the same issue at least 9 out of 10 guys that approach them are going to try to get them to engage in something that does not involve sticking a cock in their hole. I also don't get why guys in a bathhouse think they have to fuck in private, I'm an exhibitionist. I think that this thread about sex clubs was an attempt to address this problem. I have to agree that I have had more fun at the few sex clubs that were not bathhouses that I have been to. Unfortunately as far as I know there are none near me. I also enjoy a good dog pile style orgy which are impossible to get going in some cities. I'm also versatile so I know how great it feels to take a pounding in a sling as well as give one. As far as I'm concerned it is the ultimate way to fuck, the only difference I have with you is I don't care about the bottom being blindfolded, and don't really want to miss the visual stimulation when I bottom.

It is nice to be appreciated. It can also be a little embarrassing when you don't remember them at all, and they not only remember but remember you well enough to call you by name.

Do you still have to encourage the guys to fuck you if you are laying in the sling blindfolded? If so how do you do it? At Steam in Portland I see a lot of guys laying in the sling blindfolded. If the guy in the sling is a hot twink guys often surround 3 sides of the sling with him verbally begging someone to fuck him, but can't even get a guy to go near the fuckhole side of the sling. On the occasions I step up and fuck the guy the crowd he was drawing flees rather than joining in on the fun, and crowd never seems to come back once they see him actually taking cock. Older or heavier blindfolded guys just seem to get completely ignored. For that reason and the fact that I enjoy watching the guys who fuck me, I haven't tried it.

While not technically ED, spending an hour at a crowded sex club where no one is fucking is a pretty effective way of preventing me from getting hard enough to fuck. If there is even a little bit of fucking happening at a crowded sex club I will usually fuck every willing hole and cum at least twice during my visit. Even after I've been frustrated to the point I can't get hard, I will still happily get fucked, and usually can get hard and fuck for a little while afterward getting fucked if there are any bottoms actively trying during that window.

I definitely need to get loaded and then have ieatcumholes eat and breed me.