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i don't know how to answer this other than offer my thoughts, but not sure they will be at all helpful. Have you ever had anything in your ass? Like toys or finger or any other kind of penetration? Are you ambivalent about being penetrated? You note you love cock and semen, but have only experienced it by sucking. i can't relate (lol) but i know there are guys who are only into oral, maybe you're one of those and maybe you are being true to your self? Do you like the feeling of being penetrated anally? On the other hand, if you've had stuff in your hole and know that you like it, that's a whole different matter. Most bottoms will probably tell you it only takes one cock up the ass to get hooked.

i think it's sort of sad, i hat the idea of guys feeling rejected. i know some guys are either ignorant of social cues, or simply ignore them, and they don't seem to realize that their behavior exacerbates their problem of being rejected. i'm pretty sensitive and fold if there's any hint that i might not be wanted, i don't think i've ever spent more than 10 minutes occupying a sling or bench if there are no takers. The clubs i have been in, it doesn't take all that long to make the rounds, so once i see the same guy pass by a second time, i know it's time to vacate. Also, the clubs where i've gone generally have more than one or two slings, so even if someone does plant their self in a sling, if guys aren't interested they just use the other slings or go to the other guys in slings. Clubs can be a harsh environment, a sort of meat market where everyone is naked and on display. i've never bred a guy like Eros describes, but that's because i'm not really a breeder. i've sucked a lot of obvious club "rejects" before and they usually seem pretty grateful for the attention. i've surprised myself by the connections i have made when i get past my own visual bias. i won't compete for cock, if i feel like there are too many bottoms in a place at one time and they start to compete, i'll leave. i hate pettiness or meaness. i think the kind of person Eros is describing has entitlement issues.

i was getting ready for work this morning, early, was about ten after six, and i hear a light tap at my front door. i looked out the window and there was a stranger standing there. i asked him what he needed (it was still dark outside), and he said he must have the wrong address... but he just stood there and smiled at me. i realized that he wanted to hook, but i work at a hospital and had to go to work. i had no idea who this guy was, not sure if i had hooked with him before (i'm always face down when someone comes to my house). The other thought i had was maybe he was one of those guys who'd gotten my address before and flaked, or i thought maybe someone else i had hooked with or who had my address had arranged a hook up, then used my address? Either way, i have no idea who he was, but damn i wish i'd been abel to hook with him.

i don't have any piercings, so i can only speak to taste and not experience. For me, PA's are a Top piercing, really, any kind of piercing on the actual shaft strikes me emotionally as a Top accessory. Taint piercings, nips, ears, all strike me as more bottom. Probably no rhyme or reason for it, jus the way they make me feel personally. From the comments, everyone is different.

This link is essentially the published study, the info is reliable. A little info for those interested: HIV is a virus and, as such, requires a host for replication. I.e., HIV cannot reproduce on its own, it invades a cell and uses its hosts DNA to reproduce. What made it so deadly was HIV's ability to mutate rapidly. The way we finally achieved suppression was by med combinations that resist the virus at more than one point. Sort of like instead of cutting off only and arm, the combo meds cut of an arm and a couple of legs. Essentially, the anti retroviral therapy (ART), reduces the levels of HIV to "undetectable" thus removing the deadly aspect of the virus, which is the virus ability to decimate the immune system. With ART, the immune system can recover and remain intact, so people don't progress to AID's and thus stay alive and relatively healthy. The London Man are cool progress because it demonstrates repeatability of the Berlin Man, who has been HIV free for 10 years. The process was even less aggressive in the London Man, yet still appears to have succeeded 18 months later. Both used bone marrow transplant which process involves wiping out the immune system then replacing it with someone else's (i.e., stem cell transplant). In each case, the donor cells were from donors who have the genetic mutation where the CCR5 receptors are missing from the their cell surface, receptors that HIV needs to gain access to a cell and its DNA so it can reproduce. So, not unlike ART, this method employs hitting HIV from a couple of directions and it appears, so far, to irradiate HIV from the body. The thing that makes scientists excited about the "London Man" is that they were able to replicate the "Berlin Man." The London Man has been free of HIV for 18 months, the Berlin Man 10 years. This is new and rare (only two cases) results, so terms like "remission" are being used instead of "cure." We did/do the same with cancer. Terms like "remission" are used when we do not have enough experience or replicated evidence to apply the term "cure." No one is considering this a viable treatment for HIV, especially with the success of ART, but it is exciting to see it's possible for the virus to be removed from the body.

Awesome, eh? I’m almost obsessed with holding what a Top puts in me, ive slept overnight with it and even if I have the urge to evacuate, i resist. I do the same with loads of cum, I just tell my body to hold it. I recommend holding it, it can be done

i know, right? And sometimes, even less. i swear there seems to be something magical about it sometimes. i have been driving down the street on more than one occasion and had a guy make eye contact and we both knew instantly. Once i was driving down a main street and a guy pulled up next to me, made eye contact then pulled ahead and in front of me. i followed Him to a Burger King parking lot. He got out of his car, without looking back, and went in to the restaurant and into the restroom. i followed Him into the restroom (a private one) and He locked the door behind me and without a word, pulled my pants down around me knees, turned me around and bent me over, pulled his cock out and proceeded to put His cock in me. i was dry, so i spat in my hand and wet my hole for Him and He slid in, fucked and bred me, put His cock back in His pants and left, again, never a word spoken. i had to rush to get my pants up in case someone came in after.

Yeah, this. It's so hot to me when there is thought behind the act of breeding. For me, poppers is like a chemical door opener and i love it when a Top knows that and uses them for that purpose. i get no turn on from a Top using poppers on Himself. i know some tops get soft or lose there drive to breed when they use them, so i am not thrilled when i see a top take a hit, even though i know not all tops are effected that way. But, when a Top uses them on a bottom to make the bottom hornier, more pliant or to relax his hole for entry, it's a total leg spreader for me.

^^This^^ For me, the "feeding from His essence" are combined with subtle humiliation and degradation and are extremely powerful. Overt humiliation and degradation usually have the opposite effect on me, like the top is not really sure of himself and has to use force to prove something to himself. my first experience with ws was with a FB who bred me about once a week. Was always the same scenario, anonymous walk in with me naked and face down on my bed waiting to receive Him. He'd typically rim me, then mount and breed me, then leave. This time, after coming, i felt Him relax on me... which was not unusual. He didn't always just pull out and leave after breeding, sometimes He'd linger inside for awhile and this time started that way. But then i felt His cock twitching and a few moments later started to get a fuller feeling inside and realized that He was pissing inside of me. At first, i was startled, but He anticipated that. He had been breeding me for several months and knew me pretty well. He continued to hold me under the weight of His body, not in a forceful way, more in a reassuring way. First, He whispered in my ear how good it felt to Him... and He knew that i would like that. i did, and my body pretty much immediately relaxed under Him. When He felt me relax, He continued: "you like My piss in you, don't you?" And when i answered "yes," He continued: "you're now My piss slut," and He totally had me... and He knew it.

Typos don't bother me all that much, if at all, when i am reading what someone else has written. But autocorrect makes me absolutely crazy sometimes... to the point that i am cursing at my phone or computer when it keeps happening. i typically catch it while it's happening, and that's the part that bothers me, having to correct autocorrect.

i've had several experiences, including my first, where a Top pissed in me after breeding me (without asking permission), each time they pulled out without spilling a drop. i may have an unsusal ability to hold onto fluid?, but i've been stealth pissed a couple of times at an ABS and didn't realize it till i got home. i think my 'second sphincter' must be exceptionally tight, i have to be careful after douching to make sure i get all the water out. So, if a Top pisses beyond that point, it's pretty well contained with me.

oh yeah, i moan. i don't make noises on purpose, i feel awkward trying to "talk dirty" (though i honestly love it when my top does). But i've had all sorts of involuntary sounds come out of me, pretty much every top gets moans from me. Sometimes, when a top has fucked me in a way where i get sort of overwhelmed, i've been known to growl and flail my head lol. Often there are teeth marks on my mattress from where i have bitten it, not out of pain, but out of intensity. Then there has been the few times where my Top made love to me (can't think of another way to put it) and i have pretty much had to bite my tongue to keep from saying: "i love you" to a perfect stranger lest they think i'm out of my mind.

As i see it, you nailed (so to speak) the reason in your first sentence when you identified your "... need to breed." To me, the underlying drive to be bred or to breed is a "need" that expresses itself in desire. i think most of us here on breeding zone get that at least instinctively, if not cognitively. To me, the dynamic between Top/bottom speaks to the physical reality of opposites attracting (an electron and proton cannot help their attraction to each other). Even though we're seemingly on a continuum when it comes to our sexuality, some are more Top and some are more bottom. The greater the distinction, the stronger the bond when they connect. i think many of our social constructs deny nature and fail because of that.

You definitely sound like you have bottom wiring. i am convinced "bottoms" wiring goes beyond the physical, that it's emotional too, and i think for some the emotional part is the bigger part... i know it is for me. Maybe part of your "curiosity" of bi discovery will be to find out if you can get the same response with a girl who may want to peg or fist you. i dated a trans person for awhile (FtM) who fucked by using his hand since he was not born with a cock. For me, there was something missing and i never had sex with him. It had nothing to do with his not having a cock. i've been penetrated by guys who used toys or their fingers/hand, and their inner energy was so connected to it that for me it was not really different from their using their cock. i've also been with guys who were not 'connected' to what they were doing, even when using their cock, and i could feel something missing.

Yes. i've written about this in other threads, but i had a FB (actually, when i lived in Louisville ? ) who made it His goal to change my hole. His thing was changing it from 'just an asshole to a pussy." It was not a feminizing thing, it was all part of His mind fuck and i adore Him to this day. my hole is definitely changed. The opening is more a slit instead of a pucker now, and it is easier for a Top and cock to access. It's definitely more suited to receiving than retaining. my inner hole varies. Sometimes the tissue swells and i can feel every bit of any cock that enters me, other times, it's just an opened hole. i personally don't ever miss the feeling between a large and smaller cock, my head is so into the whole idea of a Top wanting and needing to breed that size just doesn't enter into the equation that much for me. Of course, i can feel the difference, but my thrill and fulfillment comes from my Tops energy and drive to breed. The most satisfying part of sex for me is when i hear the orgasm response of my Top to fucking me. i know from what you have written that you have plenty of control over your inner hole muscles, that you are able to squeeze and milk a cock and know about the exercises to keep it toned. Still, i wouldn't doubt that your hole has been modified and marked by the Tops who have loved it.

i love to read/hear of stuff like this. i've known more than a few guys in open marriages, where their partner/wife knows who they are and still loves and accepts them as they are. It's wonderful to see people break out of tradition when it doesn't fit reality.

lol, yeah, it is an awesome connection, eh? my older gay brother used to joke: "if god had intended men to get fucked, he would have given them an ass hole."

i think you've gone a wee bit byond the "curious" stage. ?

i married as a kid and was married for 31 years. i was very religious and my belief system considered being gay a "sin." my former wife knew of my attraction to guys before we married, but it wasn't taken very seriously, the notion was it's a choice. i was a virgin when i married and resisted being with a guy for the first 6 years of our marriage, and then i tumbled. Ironically, sucked a guy off when i was doing volunteer work on a missionary hospital ship. i didn't tell her what had happened, but i separated from her after that, feeling guilty and that i was gay and not going to change. That separation lasted about 6 months. i did love her, felt guilty about abandoning her and my little kids. The gay culture didn't appeal to me (i'd only experienced a tiny side of it). i still had a part me that thought being gay is a choice, so we got back together. i thought i was "over it." Of course, i wasn't. i cheated like a mad man. Sex for me became my only form of affirmation. i'd hook, then feel ashamed and guilty about it. i'd often cry on my way to hooking up or after. For me, it was torture. It took me what i consider a ridiculously long time to process through my beliefs and realize that reality and my beliefs didn't aline. In 2006, i came to a place where i had processed through all the stuff that kept me from self acceptance. i told my former wife: " this is who i am, we can stay married, but if we do you have to understand you are married to a gay person." She was still religious and of the belief that i could choose not to be gay, so after some marriage counseling, we parted. Marriage, for me, was a tortured, painful existence. Not because of being with a woman, i loved and still love my former wife. But because of our beliefs, it didn't work. i hated myself for all the lies and cheating, that was the "torture" for me. i hated how i hurt my former wife, she was devastated when she found out about my lying and cheating. Today, i am the happiest, most peaceful person i know. Honesty cost me pretty much everything, but it was and is worth it to me.

^^ this^^ to me, there is no better way to cum than from getting penetrated by a Top, controlling both His pleasure and mine. fuck yes

i'm poz, i got that way after taking probably a few thousand men inside of me bare. Cognitively, i knew the risks, emotionally i wanted/needed the connection with the guy i was with more, so i took the risk and have no regrets. When i started the topic, i was thinking of guys who consciously and purposely try to get or give HIV. i purposely posed it as a question vs a statement, then stated some of my own thoughts and feelings. As i have read through responses, i can see how this can be much more complex. i too think there is a "deficit of knowledge," but that even with that knowledge it doesn't necessarily change ones emotional disposition. i watched and cared for my once gorgeous brother, die from AID's weighing about 85 pounds, covered in Kaposis and having an anal tube because he had uncontrollable diarrhea. This was in the 80's before we could suppress the disease, yet i still went out and got bred by guys as often as i could get them. i was not trying to get the disease, i didn't want it, i lived in fear of getting it, but my drive/need/desire to connect with a guy was greater. my intellectual and experiential knowledge of HIV didn't change my emotional disposition. But, my emotional disposition didn't change my intellectual understanding of the disease either. I.e., i didn't change my understanding to try and fit my emotional desire and need. i have a strong desire/fantasy to have a Top's hand in me, as well as other parts and stuff that comes out of a Top. For me it has ever been about what's inside of the Top , i.e., how He feels and how He expresses His needs and desires to connect, more than just cock and cum. To me, those are just two of the ways a Top and bottom can bond. i LOVE Tops who have different ways of making that connection. i think you're a thoughtful, beautiful person, i'm glad you're a part of this community.

"...a chicken?" lol. sigh. It may be that we just know (and experience in my case as a healthcare provider) too much about disease process to be emotionally captivated by chasing/pozzing. For me, it's understanding the destructive force of the disease that keeps it from crossing into my emotions as a desirable "mark"or "connection" that a Top can leave. The first time that a Top pissed up my ass, He purposely plugged it and encouraged and ensured that i'd hold it long enough to absorb some of it. He knew it would combine with my urine as a result. It did, i could smell His scent in my urine when i voided after, just as He told me i would. That ended up being a huge turn on for me, made a big impact emotionally because it was a way of Him becoming a part of me in a sense. i have a similar attitude about a Tops cum. i never expel it or want to lose it, i always want to hold it in me and absorb as much as possible. But intellectually, i get that i am not getting His dna as part of me. There are other ways as well of getting a part of a Top to become a part of a bottom, but disease to me is not a good idea.

Thoughtfully written find91, i think you make some good points about the desire for closeness and oneness being a part of the mix for some. i should have been more careful in my wording, because i honesty see very few things in black or white, this topic included. Life, in my experience, is rarely that simple. So thanks for your thoughtful perspective. i do still think there are some who have internalized hate, and again would qualify that i don't really think it's a conscious thing for most. On the other hand, emotionally, i get it... in a big way, because most of sex to me is beyond the physical. i'm one of those guys who loves the idea of having a permanent part of my Top inside or as part of me. Then my intellect kicks in and says: "hey, this is a disease...." So, i separate, but i have an emotional construct where i want to have a Top as a part of me, so it's not a simple thing. Emotionally, HIV doesn't figure into the equation for me, but i can see how it could/can... it's not simple.

Oh my god too, lmao. i'm pretty confident you're the only one who has taken what i've written the way you have. You are stating the obvious, and yes, to assert that HIV is a death sentence if one is taking meds would be incorrect. i'm not an idiot, that's not what i am talking about. i'm talking about the people who romantasize getting HIV, who purposely do not take meds, so that they can infect others. There is a sub culture that calls their selves "gifters" and "chasers" who purposely try to get infected and infect. And yeah, i think that trying to get or give a disease can be a form of self hate.

Apparently someone can be this clueless. i've taken care of people dying because of HIV. Obviously it is because, without taking meds, HIV leads to AID's . Here's some stats about HIV and AIDS. supporting what i am asserting about how damaging and destructive HIV is. Calling this "completely loony" strikes me as "armchair analyzing."