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my first was about 12 or 13, but that was only one... took awhile before the others showed up.

Wanted to include the definition of untrabnsmittable because there are several tests now and some are very sensitive. Essentially, the evidence is based on viral load suppressed to "less than 200 copies/ml or undetectable levels."

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/899892?src=wnl_tp10hc_180921_mscpedit_aids&uac=&impID=1746509&faf=1#vp_3 1. "When ART results in viral suppression, defined as less than 200 copies/ml or undetectable levels, it prevents sexual HIV transmission. Across three different studies, including thousands of couples and many thousand acts of sex without a condom or pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), no HIV transmissions to an HIV-negative partner were observed when the HIV-positive person was virally suppressed. This means that people who take ART daily as prescribed and achieve and maintain an undetectable viral load have effectively no risk of sexually transmitting the virus to an HIV-negative partner." U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC), Dear Colleague Letter (September, 2017)

Yeah, think you are right about the confusion. A guy without his penis is a nullo. Check out this vid https://www.xtube.com/video-watch/nullo-male-dildo-fucking-11984771 I've seen several nullo vids where the guy orgasms and cums from his slit and it's hot as hell. Like others have indicated, a guy without testicles can still orgasm and cum, it's just seminal and prostate fluid without fluid and sperm from the testes. Personally, the idea of being nullo both scares the fuck out of me and excites me. It is something i have fantasized about and has a lot of mind fuck implications for me. One thing i have thought of is sort of a reversal where the cock is removed but not the balls. That would leave a guy with all his testosterone and drive without the cock to exercise it, it would automatically refocus his center of pleasure, probably on his slit? Would be even hotter, in my mind, if the testicles could be implanted into the body somehow, as though they had never descended, so he'd still have all the hormone and drive of a male without the equipment. For me, a big part of being bottom is the psychological component, what i think of as "mind fuck." i've connected with some Tops who i synch with in this way, where Top and bottom is not just a physical thing, it's a psychological disposition. And like most orientation, it seems Top and bottom guys are on a (somewhat fluid?) spectrum individually. For me, things like castration and nullo fall into this spectrum. i am not a transgender person. i have no desire to be female or be identified as female. Which is not to suggest that i see anything 'wrong' or 'bad' about that, it's just not where i am coming from. For me the dynamic of Top and bottom ventures into Dom/sub, but i hesitate to use those words because of their oft presumed meaning. i think those fall on a spectrum too. For me, one of the biggest components of the dynamic is the Top or Dom who wants to be in control of both His and His partners sexual pleasure. A bottom/sub is someone who wants to give control of his sexual pleasure to his partner. The dynamic of relationship between the two involves that exchange and how it happens. i don't think it's 'that simple,' tons of ramifications and variations. For instance, i see some guys on both ends of the spectrum who really get into force, and almost seem confused by a Dom or sub who eschews force. And here's where i come full circle in this topic exploration. One of the most powerful Dom/Top guys i have encountered explained to me that the most valuable gift a bottom could ever give to Him was to become nullo. He told me it was something He'd never ask or demand, and it was that that scared the fuck out of me, because His attitude and desire had the effect of evoking my desire to please Him. To me, castration or nullo is a sort of ultimate and permanent example of the dynamic.

i think this is a great question and appreciate all the answers!! i find myself mostly nodding and relating to the answers FelchingPisser and sthrnguy wrote. Coming from a deeply religious and 'traditional' background that took 'monogamy' beyond sexuality, i have become very grateful for my sexual orientation because the realities of who and how i am have taught me to question the status quo and pretty much freed me from their constraints. To me, the notion that any one person can be everything the other person needs or wants was born in the hetero world and was perpetuated by Disney. Given the divorce rate, i'd say there is good reason to question the idea. i think a lot of couples split because instead of making allowances for each to get what they need from someone who wants to give it, instead the expectation that each will become what the other needs/wants? In my experience, that is a formula for frustration and resentment and turns the relationship into quid pro quo. On the other hand, i could see myself in a relationship like sthrnguy, where if each of our make up was very complimentary of each others, i can see some advantages. For instance, depth of kink interaction.

i'd proffer that untreated HIV that turns into AID's will curb ones lustful pleasure, as will the insanity that can occur from untreated syphillis. i think shame can curb lustful pleasure and it is imposed by some forms of culture, stuck in Victorian mentality. If that keeps people from getting tested and treated for disease, that mentality has won. To me, the 'Victorians' have still accomplished their purpose of punishment if they manage to discourage treatment. Whether the reason is rebellion or shame, the end physical result is the same. i think a good way to say "fuck you" to those who would shame sexually free people is for populations like the gay community to be the healthiest, not the sickest. i know this will never happen, but what if ass a community, every LGBQTI (i.e., marginalized) person simply got tested and treated every 3 months? What would happen, if there was 100% compliance, is diseases like syphillis, chlamydia and gonorrhea would be virtually gone and one wouldn't get those infections no matter how much sex they had. Some would have us believe that irradiation, or reduction of a particular STI can only happen through abstinence. The truth is, that only isolates or restricts the disease, and those who have it. Treatment can eradicate a disease if people will simply be treated.

i know, quoting myself lol. But i have been thinking about this, not just in a sexual context, but a broader context of interaction between people. The fact is (at least in western culture), the experience of a person of color is different from a white guy. Gay white guys are sort of tweens because we are a part of a minority, but not necessarily a visually (read: automatically) identified culture. As such, we are not automatically subject to bias that a person of color is or a woman is. here's a really good discussion of unconscious bias. i've identified something that really attracts me to black men, and that is their inherent lack of assumed/unconscious superiority. It's a bias that they generally haven't had the opportunity to develop. i see assumed superiority as delusional (i.e., unreal) and, consequently, it becomes an impediment to connecting with another guy on a deeper level. As an aside, i don't see Dom/sub as Superior/inferior, but as Positive/negative, i.e., to opposites that attract in nature. not sure the link took, trying again with edit:

interesting the number of us who only get checked when we suspect or have symptoms. I was in for a my annual HIV checkup and my doc did an anal and oral swab to check for gonorrhea and chlamydia. My oral came back positive for gonorrhea and i've had no symptoms, so no telling how long i had it. That was a wake up call for me. I get azithromycin from India and treat presumptively for chlamydia sometimes, it is easily knocked out with the CDC recommended 1 gm dose. Gonorrhea requires two antibiotics to ensure clearance though (because of resistant strains), 1gm of oral azithromycin and a 250mg intramuscular injection (i.e. "shot") of Ceftriaxone. Can't get the injection from India. Also, not a bad idea to be tested for Syphillis. I had it a few years back and caught it when symptomatic. The topical symptoms go away fairly quickly on their own, but it then hides and can lead to some pretty bad stuff, insanity among them in later stages. Easy to cure, but requires penicillin shots. Bottom line, routine testing is the best way to go if one is active and wants to realistically stay ahead of infection.

Ok, this has been up 45 minutes at this point and gotten 17 views (but only 2 have taken the poll, including me). Now i am wondering if some are even shy about taking part in a poll here? i know many, especially if from an older generation, have had to face stigma and social disdain all their live's because of their sexuality. i can see where even polls on a site like Breeding Zone might evoke some negative feelings. Hopefully we'll get a good response. i really would like our community to overcome the stigma of STD testing and be healthy and happy in who we are.

i've given a similar response, it just pisses me off that i have too. i wonder if it becomes a deterrent for some to get tested? And me too when it comes to telling regulars or FB's, i'd much rather talk to them than tell a complete stranger from the health department who then contacts them.

I'd get tested a lot more frequently, but am put off by stigma when getting tested, but mostly because of the threat of setting off alarms if i test positive for something that the county is then going to be contacting me. I hate how intrusive they can be, asking about all your partners and habits. How bout you? Do you get tested, how frequently, and if not, why?

I was scared to death, i hired a ridiculously expensive lawyer who dealt with stuff like this all the time. It took a year to go to court and in that time the arresting officer actually apologized to me for arresting me. The attorney general at the time was very conservative and instructed his attorney to go for blood, but the judge pretty much laughed at him and asked my attorney "what do you want to do?" to which my attorney did a sorta "well shucks" move and put it back in the judges court who then reduced it to a misdemeanor of "indecent exposure." The thing is, there was no "exposure," it was just a conversation where i asked the cop if he wanted to fuck me. I was so relieved to have it reduced, i didn't even consider the judgement. So, it is on my record and as a healthcare provider, i have to explain it to every employer who ever interviews me. I've found that everyone is pretty understanding, but it is embarrassing to have to explain it. If i were the person i am today, i would have made a lot of noise... but i was married and scared then. Which was part of my point, culture for many of us who are pre social acceptance of gay people was different. Many of us were ashamed and felt compelled to hide, so we didn't have a chance to be young and gay.

Wow, some really great thoughts here... from everyone, so i couldn't decide who to "quote." Another angle to this is many of us witnessed a gay sexual revolution, while younger guys have been born and grown up post 'revolution.' So to speak. i know things are not perfect, but things have really changed a lot in my life time. i got arrested in 1998 for cruising an undercover vice cop pretending to be gay to entrap gay guys. i was charged with a felony using a earth 1900's law that made fucking with a guy a felony. This was in Virginia, but even there this wouldn't happen today. I was married to a woman for 31 years, but knew from age 12 that i am attracted to guys. Grew up in a religious culture, but even regular culture saw gay guys as "sick." Homosexuality was only removed from the APA list of disorders in 1973. I remember going to the library at 12 and trying to figure things out, all the medical books said i had a disorder and my religion told me i was going to hell if i "chose" to live this way. All this to say, i think if you are part of the older generation, you've likely had a lot to undo in order to find self acceptance. I didn't actually accept myself for who i am till 2006. I did a lot of processing all those years, so my self acceptance is very thorough, but i did miss out on being able to go through the normal phases of development. I think there is some real truth to the notion of older guys going through a puberty of sorts when they finally feel free to accept their self. I don't think the idea of "feeling like a young man trapped in an old mans body" is strange or unusual at all because i think in a way, it can be true. I get mixed reviews this age, and am surprised at the number of younger people who seem to flirt with me, but i am careful not to cross a line. Most of my sex is anonymous cruising, and that's still pretty easy to get, but am getting more rejection now too which i attribute to age.

Yeah, i've encountered a few... i just think they are immature and petty. i've been at ABS where a guy will walk through and close the door next to the rooms with guys in them so incoming guys will think they are occupied... in order to direct traffic to them. Personally i think tactics like that are really childish.

@ drscorpio. lol, yeah, i noticed the 21 year old is really 27 now. @ bbcunthole: Not "everyone." ? For me getting fucked is way more about the attitude and the energy of the Top and the chemistry between us. i had a FB with a 2" cock (not exaggerating) and was always impressed that He could even fuck with it, but He used to breed me beautifully and i developed a great deal of affection for Him. The primary thing i get from a Top is His drive and desire to connect and leave something of Himself inside of me, and i am not just talking cocks and cum. A Top can 'mark' a bottom with a part of Himself in so many different ways, many of those ways can be emotional as well as physical. i love receiving a Mans pleasure, desire, creativity into me, and that is what i love most about being Topped, it's that transference of desire and pleasure from Top to bottom that is magical to me.

The practice of going on and off of meds also facilitates the development of resistant strains of HIV.

i think i understand what you are getting at. As you note, it's the notion that: "...we all have the right to do our own thing...." i too have noticed there is a segment of guys, "chasers" who, for whatever reason want to be POZ. i've tried to understand this, and do think i understand some guys who chase, but not all. But i don't relate to chasing at all. i have no desire to have a disease (any) and was actually at an appointment to get on PreP when i found out i am POZ. There is apparently, a segment of guys who are POZ and not on meds. Some want the 'power' to infect others, some just want to be POZ. i can sort of wrap my mind around their explanations, but cannot wrap my emotions around it. i don't think it's a black and white topic that lends itself to grouping guys into neat little groups, though we sure try lol. Ultimately i think it is an individual thing, that there are some guys who have romanticized what it means to be POZ, or even have AID's, but i suspect there are very few people who when faced with the realities of AID's would actually want it. But on the other hand, i don't doubt such people exist, i just don't think they're a huge group and the nurse in me would try and get them on meds.

For me the "draw" of a dark room is the combination of anonymity and the general readiness of guys to have sex. If the room is truly dark (so many are not), there's pretty much only one purpose for being there: sex. i am looking to eliminate the visual component of sense (i have done the same with a blindfold). Our tastes and biases are effected by what we see and not seeing gives our other senses a chance to exercise without visual distraction. Also, visual often means the difference between acceptance and rejection... a lot less rejection going on in a dark room lol. At a bath house it's so common for guys to continuously walk around, sizing each other up and not doing anything. Or there's always a group of guys that seems to get rejected or is alone. How often to we miss out on the other aspects of sex (e.g. touch, sound, attitude) because we don't even get to that place because of what we see?

i have a Dom friend who casually suggested i get rid of my cock and balls. The suggestion both excited and scared the fuck out of me, at this point more excited by the idea and all the mind fuck behind it. It did spur a search where i found this vid and gotta say i find this incredibly hot. i'm pretty surprised at the orgasm and cum this guy produces without actual sperm from his balls, but he is obviously experiencing an orgasm (money shot is around 2:10).

Ditto those who say what's important is that sex is consensual. Sexual assault is a violent act, whether you're related or not. As an adult, i learned (from my mom) that my dad had been sexually assaulted by his uncles and dad. i never met my grandfather on my dads side because my dad wanted nothing to do with him. my dad apparently did not consent to any of it and it did him harm. i have never had sex with a family member, but had a major crush on a cousin from about 8 years old who was one year older than me. When i was 15 i went to live at His house for about 10 months, the house was small and i slept in a sleeping bag on the floor next to his bed. i was sexually inexperienced, but knew i wanted Him, on a couple of occasions i turned up the control on His electric blanket (it was on the floor next to me) hoping He would get hot and take His covers off. Nothing ever happened between us and i haven't seen Him for years, but i still have sexual dreams about Him where we are both teens and getting it on.

According to the National Institute of Health (NIH) : A disease of the immune system due to infection with HIV. HIV destroys the CD4 T lymphocytes (CD4 cells) of the immune system, leaving the body vulnerable to life-threatening infections and cancers. Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) is the most advanced stage of HIV infection. To be diagnosed with AIDS, a person with HIV must have an AIDS-defining condition or have a CD4 count less than 200 cells/mm³ (regardless of whether the person has an AIDS-defining condition).

There are some great responses about resistance, i appreciate some of the well informed on this site. i am on Truvada/Tivicay regimen. i (stupidly) missed a dose of Truvada and two of Tivicay recently (i had forgotten to refill and it was a weekend where my pharm was closed). While worrying, i did some searches and found this info: "The total amount of nonadherent time with HIV antiretroviral therapy over the course of a month affects the risk of having a detectable viral load starting at 14 days, but an interruption of just 2 days will cause the viral load to rise, according to research presented here at the 6th International Conference on HIV Treatment and Prevention Adherence, sponsored by the International Association of Physicians in AIDS Care (IAPAC)." HIV is an aggressive, nasty virus, i can still remember watching my brother die from AID's during the 80's, it wasn't pretty or sexy (by most standards). i'm a critical care nurse and i deal with disease and death all the time, AID's (that can develop from unsuppressed HIV) is one of the worst i have ever seen, i sure as hell don't want it. Meds have been around long enough now that have a whole new generation of guys who haven't seen the same issues we encountered when the virus first took hold. i think we are so very fortunate to be living in an era where we have meds that are generally safe and can keep the virus suppressed. Taking a pill or two a day is nothing compared to what guys had to do when treatment was still being developed and there were side effects and lots of meds to remember. As to cost, as with all meds that will eventually go down... as long as the older meds remain effective and can make it to the time when they can be made as generics. Meanwhile, here's info on assistance programs to help if you cannot afford meds.

i try to adjust to the Top when it cums to sucking or finishing. i find different Tops like different things. Some like lots of pressure with friction, others like my mouth to be like a cum sloppy pussy, so i try to adjust based on Their response. i never use my hands on the shaft, but love to cup the Tops balls in my hand and touch them in a way where He responds showing what He likes. When the Top starts to shoot, i typically carress the balls to encourage complete emptying. i love to feel the Top shooting at the back of my throat, so i typically take His shaft balls deep where i can feel His cock expand and shoot initially. i synch with His shooting and between spurts, use my tongue at the base and underside of His cock to to milk His cum upward and out, adjusting the pressure to His sensitivity. Some guys want Their bottom to keep stimulating, others don't, so i try to read what He wants, adjusting my sucking and tonguing to His responses so i can keep His cock and extend His pleasure so He doesn't want to withdraw.

ok, my bad. Just saw that the moderator included what i wrote as an entry under my first thread. Didn't seem a similar topic to me, but he didn't delete what i wrote, he copied and pasted it under the first thread.

Yes, not talking about breeding zone, what happened was on Poz.com. They don't charge either. Not a big deal, but it did discourage me from further participation. The two posts were completely different, the only "similarity" was both had the words "Truvada" and "Tivicay," it did not seem that he had even read the second post. It feels kind of intrusive when someone can just delete what you say, it wasn't offensive and didn't break any rules, he just deemed it in "the same sense," but it wasn't at all. oh well, weird.