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What more is there to ask of a guy? (well, maybe to hang onto something while he's bent over ....)

Bingo. To which I'd only add, know your craft, Tops. We can bring a sperm-addicted bottom to tears of joy if we learn our craft, and realize that there are two equally-important components to a fantastic fuck.

The way I see it, obviously there's some difference between a full Hole and a cum-slicked Cock - but not much of a difference. The one cannot happen without the other. Bon appetit all the way around ....

To the OP, I guess I'd think of it as a challenge to be overcum ....

In the same vein, I've been using a VPN for a while now, and occasionally I have to turn it off (for a fraction of a second) while the computer thinks it over .... it only takes an eyeblink, and then I turn it on again.

Wow !!! There's a guy that's really got his metaphors tied up in a bundle .....

HAHAHAHA ........ I'd completely forgotten this, but when I was a little kid, my parents always told me to do the opposite of what they actually wanted me to do. Worse, it always worked. I don't recall though, when I "woke up" to the con, and began doing exactly what they wanted instead of what they said - just to spite them.

Welcome, new guys ... We hope to hear more from each of you !

"And that, I think, is a good start". Agreed, within certain parameters. I'm assuming that the "discourse" you allude to is with someone you feel is a "friend", to some degree or another. Someone you like (at least somewhat), and respect (same qualifier). When those are the "default" positions - most likely mutual - there's every chance that neither person (m or f) would want to purposely disrespect the other, and thus keep the tone of the conversation within certain "non-challenging" parameters. This assumes, of course, a pre-existing sense of friendship, respect, each for the other. In that kind of trusting situation, what the other person has to say is important, and received with the aforementioned sense of trust in mind. Even criticism for x or y or z can be considered within the framework of non-judgementalism. While some folks are not disposed to this kind of sharing relationship, I'll bet 10-to-1 that you are. Thus, the "trick" is to parry conversations that may prove distasteful, and engage seriously only those you trust - and who trust you. Now, I know you wouldn't be engaging in this kind of sharing with just anyone you happened to meet - who would? It would be someone you already trusted to be decent, honest, and couch any potential critical statements as carefully as they're able. However - "if their logic doesn’t hold up against my own values" - then your friend can still remain one of your friends, but there's simply a depth of that friendship that will not be plumbed. And, that's alright. We don't need all that many "real" friends, but we do need a few. Like you, I generally don't engage in these kinds of discussions until I really know someone, and for the same reasons. Combine that with a disinclination to accept poorly-thought out, poorly conceived blathering with little respect, and we wind up being refreshed, validated in our sense of self, our sense of purpose, and our sense of determination to be the man that we aspire to be. Thanks for that most interesting post.

Could be great for the bottom, particularly if he's adept at imagination. Would need to be agreed upon prior though ...

Well, it's the height of "hot". A lot of guys in this neighborhood bought homes (I mean, close to Ramrod) back when the r.e. prices had bottomed out, so it's at least 1/3 gay households, more wouldn't surprise me. The place across the street from me (at one time, owned/lived in by the Chief of Police in Ft. L.) has a two-storey garage in back that's been converted to two apts, the main house has been subdivided, and it's all rented out for AB&B short term travelers. There are people coming and going constantly over there, (which is fine by me - n.o.m.b.). Those properties that aren't AB&B are mostly owned by gay guys who bought here when RR was still going full blast (like me, for instance). The residents that bought a house 40, 50 years ago might be straight, but virtually all of the original homeowners are long dead and gone. So, it's diverse around here, which I like.

I think most Tops really appreciate a well-bred Hole. It's a total pleasure to slide into a "holding pen" full of other guy's loads. It only means the bottom is truly dedicated to sating his Lusts, which is a total turn-on for many of us.

I voted for "looking to get fucked". I think that it takes a bit more than walking around with one's Hole hanging out to advertise "total pighood".

This may be a bit self-serving, but I've always believed that it's all in how one uses what he's got. It's not the inches that put a sweat on a bottom's brow - it's the skill with which his Hole is well and truly fucked.

Welllllllll ...... there's probably never going to be a cure for cowardice .......

Thanks to the progress of medical science, we're alllllllmost all the way there. One of these days, condoms will be a thing of the past for us.

Around here, raw is definitely the law. I haven't so much as seen a condom in literally years, and I've been hitting the fuckjoints every weekend for years. That said, here's something that even I wouldn't do, and it happened on the street directly in front of my house, and in broad daylight: So there are three different-colored bins we have here for different types of refuse: black for actual garbage, blue for recyclables, and green for garden trimmings, branches, etc. There are separate trucks that come for only one of the colors. The black-bin trucks come really early in the mornings, the blue-bin trucks around mid-mornings, and the green-bin trucks never earlier than mid afternoon, sometimes later. So. I went out in the mid afternoon to the street to bring in the green bin, and there were two guys (both hot) that were actually fucking, maybe 15' away from my driveway ... the bottom holding onto the green bin. The Top was good looking, the bottom was gorgeous, and I stopped dead in my tracks at the end of the driveway - simply stunned at their boldness. Anyone driving a car down the street would have easily seen them - couldn't have missed them. The Top glanced around and saw me, pulled out, muttered something to the bottom, who pulled up his shorts and walked away down the street. The Top "put himself away", and strolled over and actually apologized to me for making such a display on what is actually city property, but directly in front of my house. He had an accent - almost certainly from somewhere else (Europe, probably) on a fuck-cation. I just said 'no problem - it's city property, not mine', and he said he was waiting for an Uber. Now. I've seen a lot - done a lot too. But I've never fucked on a public street in the middle of the afternoon, in broad daylight, where anyone could watch, from one end of the block to the other, or drive by. All those two horndogs had for cover was a refuse bin to fuck behind, maybe (dammitt, I'm gonna go out and measure it) ...... 29" wide, 29" deep, 46" high. That's what I call bold, and may Heaven bless them both.

I do now .......

I agree completely with all the guys who've praised the hard work and dedication rawTop has devoted to BZ. Most of us will never know how much time, effort it takes to create/maintain a forum like BZ. There must be all kinds of frustrations that develop, and we users of the site know nothing of them. A round of applause (no, not the clap) go to the moderators too. It can't be easy to keep a herd of opinionated horndogs like us in line either. This is the best site I've discovered for sharing thoughts, perceptions, on widely-varying subjects, and in a (mostly) respectful manner. Thanks.

There must be something in the water out there that you don't drink yourself .....

I've been criticized for repeating stuff from previous posts, so I won't do that here. That said, "in the early 80's" I was in grad school. Had started fucking guys a decade prior, the summer before undergrad. Thus, I started as early as I could in that village (but actually a fairly large city) I called home, as soon as I was outta high school.

100000% agreed. Isn't he in the clink by now?

I love that song .... always thought of it as a goal to attain, rather than something that should already exist, but doesn't yet.. Even the key, (plain-jane old C major) is evocative of the almost impossibility of attaining what the song represents. *I don't think the world has recognized the enormity of his talents yet. (rhetorical answer) Yep. Attended another one earlier this afternoon. Started out with about 150 people, a month+ ago. Today, it was not quite 900. I should state that this County (Broward) is the most reliably Democratic in the State of FL. When the Republican members of the House won't even attend the normal, long, loooong standing "town hall" meetings with their constituents, and the Democratic office-holders in the area attend instead, there's nothing "normal" afoot at all. More, it's happening in every State in the Union. The R's don't even have enough backbone to meet with the residents of their districts. More, this is happening nation wide, daily, not just here and there. The local republican office-holders don't even have the balls to face their own constituents !!!

Welllll .... I used to keep a cumdump for a few years ..... and yes, enabling him, being a part of him taking loads was like throwing a lit match on a thousand-year-old pile of fir-tree branches. More, his Hole was thick with curly black hair .... somebody just below my belt is wide awake just recalling it .....

Well, how about "experienced"? Add an "s" if you'd like. Most bottoms appreciate a Top that knows what he's doing (which "(s)experience' is gained by countless rehearsals of those particular acts applicable).