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Well shucks - I messed up the quote doo-dad again. My apologies .... but also thanks for that explanation. I think I'll stick to my long-held aversion to those unnatural contrivances. Their only usefulness for me is in the making of DD's.

Agreed. Myopia favoring whatever issue that's closest to our own hearts and minds will be our undoing. AOC has been accused of this, i.e. willing to sacrifice the "good" in favor of waiting for the "perfect". That will only get us intimate knowledge of what real repression feels like. I agree 100%. Unfortunately, the minority leader in the Senate has made that perspective the norm. It's the daily m.o. of his party, and has been since the hatemongers worst nightmare came to pass - an African American elected President - twice. The political party infamous for lock-step falling in line, bleating the "party line" ad nauseum, packing the Courts with reactionary judges, refusing to negotiate even the most clearly beneficial-for-all programs, on and on and on, has become the proponent of polarization. The revel in it. They brag about it. They laugh at anyone who doesn't reflect their perverted view. If we, as a country, are polarized, then I lay that directly at the wantonly partisan behavior of the so-called conservatives feet. The polarization isn't a future potential, it's the here and now. It's the We Win, you lose, hardball political myopia. "That position polarizes us" is no longer the case. It has already happened, and they are working diligently all day every day to make their power permanent. You're right - it shouldn't be this way, but it already is. In a few months, our only chance for redress - short of real trouble - will be at hand. This is the very definition of Democracy. Rule of Law, as reflected by the majority of the citizens. None of us gets every single thing we want. Everyone gets something of what they want. But the Radical Right has uprooted that principal, and done so years and years ago. Look at it from their perspective: all their hero's are gone. George Wallace is dead. Bull Connor is dead. Strom Thurman is dead, and his DixieCrats with him. And then what happened? The worst outrage a racist hatemonger could possibly imagine: an African American elected President. For people who's entire identity is centered - even consumed by - being White, they have nothing left to hang their white sheets on. These people must be soundly thrown out of Government, since they do not come even close to reflecting the will of the majority of citizens. This is probably the most insidious of all the hatemonger's issues. Actually, it has nothing to do with the procedure of an abortion at all, rather it is centered on the corruption of the religious message they claim belief in. Diddling through the pebbles of at which moment life begins, at which point viability comes, are false flags. They need to replenish their numbers, so they can continue to squat at the top of their depraved cultural spectrum. They have been taught for generations upon generations that their god wants them - Caucasians - to rule this Continent. Virtually every conflict this nation has become involved in, save the World Wars, have been in service to this outrage against humanity. The depravity of White Privilege is about to either be defeated, or it will prevail. And that outcome is up to men and women of good will to decide in a few short months. So pardon my histrionics, but - it really is down to the wire now. Thanks for your thoughts. JimInWisc.

There are few pleasures in life that compare to becoming intimately acquainted with a well-Bred hairy Hole full of Sperm from other Cocks. Driving a really fast car on the backroads comes to mind. A superbly prepared sea bass comes to mind, if fleetingly. Flying a small plane (which flight lessons I flunked because I couldn't tell the color of the winglights). Racing an 18' GlassTron with an Olds 455 in it on the Fox River - drunk as a lord comes to mind. Gimme some time - maybe I can come up with another comparable or two .... maaaaybe ....

My first time fucking another guy (back then, there was no other way to fuck - just like now 😈) I had gone away to school, so - that would be at age 18.

I never fucked any other way. I did stop fucking altogether for a few years when hiv came along, as did tons of other guys. When azt became widely used, I started fucking again, but not like I used to - those days are gone forever.

If the R's take the majority in Congress, no acceptable legislation will be forthcoming to protect any of the privacy rights (except interracial marriage, of course). I'll lay you a dollar to a donut it'll be half that many: 2.5 to 5 years. These people have been stewing for decades, and they see this is their chance. They will move as quickly as they possibly can. Maybe. But these ruby rednecks like to watch porn too, so at least some porn might sneak through. They have said so, and bluntly. Their hatreds against "the other" are focused squarely on us, and our lives will change dramatically if these cretins move society back to the 19th Century. Sites like yours will be history. Yes, we are a fractious party, with many urgencies, each important to the welfare of all. That tends to siphon off the political muscle we can muster, and this time around we cannot sit in our own little camps and stew. We simply MUST vote, and vote Democratic up and down the ballot. Straight-ticket. Any citizen who can't be bothered to vote, doesn't deserve the rights so hard-won these past 50 years. Here, our primary is next month, on the 23rd. If I am still among the living, I will crawl on my hands and knees to the polling place if I must. There is simply nothing more crucial. I understand that Garland is most careful. I understand that he dots every possible "i" and crosses every possible "t". But if he doesn't act soon, these hatemongers will see political victory within reach, and it will help motivate them. As far as I'm concerned, any R that has doubts about the whole fantasia of trumpism, but cannot bring themselves to vote Democratic, should simply not vote. This is our country too, and this time we have to fight like the hatemongers have for all these years. We have to get down in the ditches and fight. Thank you for your post.

OK !!! I PROMISE !!!

I agree. Which is why I get tested monthly instead of quarterly. The way I see it, the sooner the bugs are detected, the sooner they can be treated. Take the meds, ditch the bug, and keep living our lives until the next one comes along.

Do you mean tying it length-wise around whichever wrist? I think once compromised, a condom would only tear even more .... not that I have a lot of experience with them though ....

I agree. We're not "supposed" to like sports. Somehow, the "straights" have arrived at the notion that we only like "lady-stuff" like doilies and decorating and all that mess. However, there are thriving GAY Sports Bars here that are packed with men and women who only fuck their own gender. My own favorite is one where the "bar-food" is first class, and you have to get there at least an hour ahead of the game to even get a seat. Plus - the women fans have a lot of fun hollering shit at opposing fans, and their potty-mouths would blush a dog. It's a LOT of fun !!! Fuck stereotyping. I wish one of my favorite teams would fight half as hard as some of these gay women.

How about: Refusing to be forced into making a choice? That'd work too .... a middle finger in the eye of conventionality.

First, allow me to nominate you for the honorary Doctor of Letters Degree from the world-famous BZ University. This was beautifully conceived and laid out. I don't recall ever being in denial (once I realized that it was actually possible for guys to have sex with each other). Talk about being subsumed in the Religo/Cultural boiling cauldron. But that dam burst it's seams the week I went away to school, and it's been onward and upward ever since. Yes. "Denial" implies prior recognition of some position, which (for whatever reason) we have been conditioned to reject. I think the trick is to recognize the bullshit, but try not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. No one should ever "deny" their reality (especially to themselves), when that "reality" is nothing but cultural - or even worse - religious vehicles to control everyone's behavior. I think the religious anti-gay angle got started when Rome needed cannon-fodder for it's far-flung legions. Can't make babies for the Emperor if you're pumping it up other guys, right? With that governmental thought-train, cultural repressions soon followed. It's all about control - not who you need to fuck or why - it's all about control. I will admit that it's perhaps a bit easier for someone who instinctively refuses to surrender control easily, but it's an emotional thicket of thorns regardless. And now you know why you deserve that Doctorate. Reason. Self examination. Never merely accept, always question the validity of cultural pressures, always reject those with the taste of religious bitterness. Laurels are for those vines around old Caesar's head - not to rest on. To extend that line of reasoning, is anything absolute? Probably, but we get to decide what is and what isn't - no one else. And why is that? Interesting question, isn't it. Worthy of no small amount of consideration. If the "labels" we invent to categorize other folks are unstable, then should these be used at all? It's an individual decision of course, and it's easier to just say I'm gay when there seems to be little chance of a serious exchange. Lately there are yard-signs popping up around here with the words "Say Gay" on them. That, of course, is in reaction to one of DeathSantis' more recent self-humiliations. But the kernel is still there to be examined. It takes no small effort to override our cultural bent to rely on labels, and sometimes it's ok to demur to them than challenge them. Don Quixote, and all of that. All we can do is figure out where we stand, and not budge on these more ephemeral discoveries. Doing at least that much though, is important. Fuck it ..... Despite have zero authority to do so, I'm awarding you that Doctorate here and now. Turn your tassel, sweet boy. You get it.

I got thrown out of the Atlanta Eagle once for taking a blowjob at the bar. I thought we could do at that Eagle what we could do back home at the Chicago Eagle ..... who knew ..... 🙄

This pretty much says it all ......

This ^ is an inventive genius at work !!! Simple, cheap, and easily noticed by those who need to notice it. All we need to do is choose the color Flagging would easily be accomplished, via which wrist it's worn on. Being color-vision "challenged" myself, it's up to other guys to figure out what color (and please, not some pale pastel shade of whatever). Thanks, leaker30 !!!

A related, but different issue: Bottoms: do you like to feel whiskers on your Hole when the Top sucks/mouth-lubes your Hole? Do you dislike a day or two's growth on your ass cheeks? Or do you enjoy that extra sensation? Being retired, I don't bother to shave every single day ... but I do make sure I shave before Friday night rolls around. I could adjust that, if responses seem to warrant it. I know I like seeing an unshaven guy eating wet Hole come up for air with Sperm from previous Cocks on his upper lip, chin ...

Agreed. It all depends on the skills of the Top. Merely spitting towards a Hole before Breeding doesn't come close to cutting the mustard. A Top who loves Hole would be more attentive to it, at the very least. Better, would be to get his mouth on the Hole, lick it, eat it, tongue-fuck it, push as much saliva up the Hole as is necessary via tongue-fucking the Hole. I much prefer either saliva or loads off previous Cocks to commercial lubes.

Interesting .... are you ok with the Top eating/mouthing your Hole, tonguing his spit into your Hole in place of commercial lube? I don't mean allowing it out of your clearly refined sense of duty - I mean, is that not pleasurable for you?

Well, my position is, call others by whatever they want to be called. That does not mean I'll carry a crib-sheet around in my pocket, though. I don't know if there's any other moniker for bisexual folks, but - if plain old "bisexual" isn't enough, then I agree - it's up to them to explain that fact, and offer the rest of us alternatives.

LOL ... of course you're right. There's rather little "decency" - as traditionally defined - in our sexual habits. To restate: most "decent-minded" gay men will understand the "intake = outgo" part of physiology, and make the necessary accommodations.

I take your point, in that the sexual act isn't solely for procreation. Obviously, it's universally pleasurable too (or, should be). The duality-of-purpose part though, didn't occur to me. You're right, of course - we don't fuck with our pancreas ... I must beg your pardon though, for not reading the entire 2nd paragraph: I just ate breakfast .... and, ..... well ...... I'll read it a little later 🤢

I don't care all that much either. I fuck a lot more than anything else, not that I mind sucking a Cock off ... just don't do it all that much. On those occasions when I do, it's more about the connection for me than how big the Cock is.

HAHAHAHAHAHA ..... Worse, some of us never could see colors very well in the light of day, let alone in the darkness of the places we love to hunt in ... I'm glad that whole color-coded thing has "faded" (that was a fairly inept pun). Maybe we could come up with some other way to "flag" that we only fuck raw. How about using the R.i.L. contraction somehow .... I know that Slammer is peddling caps, t-shirts too, I think.

This sounds exactly like it was before hiv came along. This is what those of us who chose to stay alive had to give up for a few years. This is how we all fucked before hiv. The steamroom at Mans Country was like this on weekends. This is what those of us who are very active now are remembering .... this is what we're re-living today. At the tubs, in the backrooms of bars, at the fuckjoints, it was like this everywhere. Sure, there were "fern bars", discos, small neighborhood gay bars, regular cruise-bars, all kinds of bars, but this - what DarkroomTaker so eloquently describes, is what some of us remember. The worst that could happen would be a case of the applause. Everybody fucked everybody, with nothing more than a quick smile to start it off. It was wonderful beyond imagination. He wraps up with the phrase "YOU never see who these Men are." Because there's no need to. Because there's no reason to. Because visuals aren't the crux of why we were there. Because ...... It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm, and nothing else

??? I'd never run across that one before, so I asked Mr. Googler about it. Turns out, I've got a streak of that one running up my spine !!! Obviously, the "eye-candy" quotient wouldn't apply, but - if a guy opens his mouth and I find there's something worth listening to, that only pours gas on the carnal fire. By the same token, dullards who constantly insist on proving and re-proving their status are not likely to interest me, no matter how hot their physical appearance. I suppose this is why gags were invented millennia ago.......