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So there's this used furniture store right next to the Ramrod. It's in a fairly small 2-storey building, fairly long and skinny, which - if the furniture store failed, the location would be perfect for an abs with darkroom setup. I've noticed where the doors are - the second floor could be the darkroom w/gh's, booths, and a larger darkroom at the E end of the building. The first floor could be used for some other gay-oriented business (there's already a store on the other side of Ramrod peddling all the doo-dads, poppers, gay ephemera, so some other, more - oh - intense? focus would be required. Having been in business for many years, that part isn't challenging - only finding the right mix of kink to cater to. Maybe a small theatre w/plenty of Breeding room? The furniture store seems to be doing well, so I haven't done any actual investigation, but it's an intriguing notion. I know that there's plenty of Breeding at Ramrod already. It's a bar though, which implies a different business model. I think providing a serious outlet for serious raw action would be a cool way to wrap up my business life.

Actually, I think the place does (of did) exist, and somewhere in Eastern Europe. I've watched it and noticed some of the language. It seems like it could be a lot of fun, but I've never experienced anything like it anywhere. The way the commerce is conducted seems genuine too.

BINGO !!! That's great .... it's what all folks need to accomplish at some point. Kudos, bud !!! Ya think ? Could be, right?😉 I know that I am far more attuned to guys then the other gender. Maybe because I like to fuck guys, and don't like to get too close to women. Maybe it's just the way we're naturally wired.

Or, several lined up on the fuckbench - shoulder to shoulder - Holes up, taking on any/all Cocks. I think the fuckbench in the darkroom at Slammer is at least 5' long .... maybe more. You can start at one end, and (as other Cocks unload and move on) rut your way down the line to the other end. Can't do that much after 10 though - it gets crammed full of men by then.

tighthole64: Actually, I don't even remember ... in spite of all the Cocks that fucked him, I never thought him loose; his Hole probably squeezed it clean when I withdrew .... NWUSHorny: Yes. I haven't made much use of them, but have noticed (through the open doors of unused cubicles as I prowled the corridors) that almost every one has gloryholes in at least one of the walls. Sometimes a guy pressed against the wall, taking a blowjob through the gh, but don't recall ever seeing a guy bend over taking a Cock through a gh. But then, I don't pay that much attention, I guess. I'm with you: However guys like to take loads is how they should take them. Through gloryholes, out in the open, in solid-walled cubicles, I've fucked guys through gh's - I think every guy has at some point. The thing about gloryholes is, it focuses the attention solely on the Cock. Nothing but the Cock/balls is visible, and for guys that love gh sex, nothing else counts. No one can suck off a belly or a thigh or an arm .... gh's focus the complete attention only on the Cock, and that's cool. I happen to like a roomful of Breeding men best, but - to each their own. It's the mating with each other that counts.

So much for astrology. And, I doubt she "made" you believe x, y, or z. It's more likely you allowed her to believe she did. Whether or not you actually believed whatever isn't the issue, the issue is, you (perhaps out of a generosity-of-heart) allowed her to think you believed the astrology thing. A sense of empathy on your part would allow that, wouldn't it? More, suppressing one's own emotions in favor of upholding others that seem to need support is a part of being empathetic. I still think you're a caring kind of guy, and the world needs more men just like you.

Since you mention it, I picked up sort of a "regular" on that round sofa. I won't say the name, but he's always there, wears a white bandana on his head, has 3 or 4 Cocks tattooed on each butt-cheek, and a really nice guy too. Before covid, he used to stop over, knock on the door and ask if he could suck me off, so he could go to work with the taste of my Sperm in his mouth. And - if I'm not mistaken - every single time he decided he wanted up his Hole instead - I don't think I've ever Bred his throat !!

Yep .... and like you, I've only partaken of the cubicles a few times. One of them (in the corridor leading to the showers/locker area) has a sling in it with no door, actually just a cubicle-sized alcove. It's always more fun when there are other guys participating. Group Breeding is always hottttt .

Clearly, you're not only correct, you're a well-adjusted hunk of pork ...

Well, yeah - IT IS !!! But, maybe it can be franchised to include other parts of the country. We wanna keep it here !!! <filthy grin> 😈

If I may: Yes, they are public, in the sense that any guy with id and the dough to get in, can. They are open only to the members, which members are there to fuck each other. and there's no chance anyone that doesn't belong there can access it. Thus, these places are indeed "private" clubs, and the term "public" means only that other members of the establishment can gain entry, and thus potentially witness/join the goings on. If there's a light turned on in a "darkroom", it is not a "dark" room, it is a lighted room. I suppose when the fuckjoint is closed and the cleaning staff is getting ready to open, there may very well be a light switch somewhere to illuminate the darkroom. I suppose that light could be inadvertently left on, but the first guy in the door once they open will definitely alert a staff member to correct that mistake. I've never experienced that, but then I'm never the first guy there, either. My favorite fuckjoint (321 Slammer) has a number of different areas within the building, one of which is the darkroom, and it's very dark. There is also a well-lit orgy room, with a large, round pillow/sofa bottoms line up on to take loads. There is also another area with an elevated gallery for guys to stick their Cocks through glory holes, and get sucked off by guys on the floor about 5' below. There are showers, lockers, and many cubicles, a few with slings. There's a large room w/fireplace, and another structure for guys needing to be sucked sticking their Cocks through gh's for guys on the main floor. No squatting down to suck a Cock, each guy just stands there on the appropriate level, and every other guy walking around can pause, watch the action, join in, move on, whatever. This is the sense that the word "public" is meant to convey. When the phrase "public space" is used in the context of a fuckjoint/backroom, all it means is that only other guys that happen to be in the fuckjoint can observe/join in the action. No other member of the general public could possibly gain entrance to the fuckjoint, let alone observe the "out-in-the-open" carryings on. I would imagine the same is true for the bathhouses and bars that allow guys to fuck. My apologies for any previous lack of clarity. If you google 321 Slammer Ft. Lauderdale, there are a number of photos (when they're closed, of course), but you can see these various areas within the building. I hope you come try it out !!

I've never had one. Or any other of the (anti) "social networks" either. They seemed from day one to be puffs of smoke in a windstorm, and I much prefer to spend my allotted "ether-time" right here with my BreedBrothers.

Really !!! I reckon that's one to cross off the short list !!! As an aside: wasn't that where quite a number of potential war criminals snuck off to after WWII ? I'm not sure enough folks understand how dangerous the situation really is in the US. But, everyone has to do what they think (as in spending some intellectual effort at it) is best. All this talk about so-called "poll watchers" may be true in some places, but when I took my ballot downtown to the dropbox at the registrar's office, no one looked twice at me, and I didn't see any shady characters lurking about at all ....

The topic has come up in conversations (friends, neighbors, acquaintances), and I can understand how guys who have "lived the life" for decades are concerned. The question, however, remains, move to where? Toronto? That would be the most-close to our way of life, but there are no guarantees that if our Democracy fails things will be much better there. Some have mentioned Uruguay as a potential haven. Some have mentioned Portugal. That would mean many of us would have to learn a new language, uproot everything, and jump into a completely new life, without knowing for sure whether it would be successful. I don't think the issue of who gets medical treatment and who doesn't would arise until a new, repressive Government would have time to establish itself, in that there would be existential threats to that institutionalized repression any new Gov't would have to deal with before getting around to us. It's really difficult to see through the haze of the potential threats at this point, so I advocate for waiting to see what happens in the next 3-5 years. Make preparations if one wants to, sure; no harm there. I would imagine that if worse comes to worse, the repressions would start with the kids, as a "preventative" measure, leaving the already long-term Free men to simply fade away. Until whatever is coming actually happens, it's really tough to see through the seething pot of flux. At this point, there are only differing theories - of which, only one will prove true. Stirring the pot too much before it's ready only dissipates some of the heat, it doesn't affect the flavor of the outcome.

HAHAHAHAHA ... fun twist on the ancient and never-failing truth. How one man can control the (mis) information consumed by millions on a daily basis is a real problem. Rupert must be turning over in his (damn - still anticipated) grave.

I voted for a darkroom, because a bottom that may still be wrestling with devoting himself to cumdumpery may find it easier to jettison his fears in the dark, without the ephemera of onlookers, visual distractions allowing his mind to wander. In the darkness of a room dedicated to men Breeding men, with only the sounds of groans of pleasure, piston-like Cocks about to shoot, whispers of men about to Breed each other, the bottom's focus can be better aimed at becoming one part of the whole - a cog in the wheel of relentlessly Breeding men. I think that well-seasoned barebackers like to Breed where other men can watch, appreciate, get into the Lust being acted out in front of their eyes. There doesn't need to be bright light, dimly lit areas are fine, and the more men that watch other men fucking each other, the harder their Cocks will get to join in. The whispers of the darkroom become the more blunt statements of cumdumpery - from both the T and the b - when other like-minded men have gathered to share raw sex. There's nothing at all wrong with Breeding each other in bright daylight, of course - but I can understand how some guys might think that a bridge too far ..... at least for the time being. Each - the darkrooms, and the somewhat illuminated backrooms - have their usefulness.

What a beautiful bar that is ..... I remember it well .......

As usual, I think BootmanLA is giving good advice. The following thoughts assume you and the bf are well-protected with all the shots, pills, precautions: 1. The venue is a public one, and thus there is no implication of commitment for either party. Within the confines of the LeatherLife, it's called a "negotiation", but in your case it would be simply a 'hey - wanna go have a drink or bite of supper with us sometime?" kind of presentation to the intended. 2. If he's got any anti-gay issues, he'll politely demur, and you'll have your answer. No harm done, no one gets hurt, and you two move on. If he says sure, I'll meet you at X place, X time, that's a hint of potential good will on his part. 3. If he agrees, you and your bf can come up with some conversation which would be steered (by you two) towards alluding to gay sex, without getting down into the weeds about it. Gauge his reaction. Sniff the wind. Unless he's a total dunce, he'll get the drift, and you'll have your answer. 4. When he hollers "hell yeah, rawfuck me senseless", tell us allllll about it.

Thanks, EW. I have a better solution that obviates all the shipping nonsense: You want the Sperm, you come get it.

Thanks for the info, EuroMusk76. It used to be in the Easter season, but that was some years ago. The Pig and Pervert parties were magnificent !!! Everything about it was magnificent !!!!!

I'd always mention Berlin first. Folsom-in-Berlin isn't too far off (if it's still happening; haven't been in a while now), but this time of year, maybe GC ???

Nothing. I was born this way .....

My life-partner got shingles years ago, and while I never did get shingles (despite the chickenshit as a kid), I suffered through the entire thing right along with him, doing what the internist told me to do to help alleviate as much as possible. Later, at a certain age, I got the shingles vax, as a preventative, since I knew first-hand how debilitating it is. If I recall (and I may well not), we're supposed to get a shingles booster every 10 years or so, and I'll do that. When there are existing preventative medical steps to take to avoid illnesses, why on earth wouldn't we take advantage of them? I just don't understand why some folks wouldn't.

Sharp-edge, you're probably a rather empathetic guy, and other folks can sense that. That's a wonderful quality to possess, and the above responses are good ones. Not everyone can project empathy, don't feel odd that your friend knew where he could turn in a time of trouble. Unless he asks you to comment on whatever the issue is, all you really need to do is "be there" for him - and you've already done that. If he needs more, you'll know it. If he doesn't, you were there when he needed someone to lean on, so either way you don't need to press. Just be there if he needs more, as you initially were. Let that ball stay in his court until he tosses it into yours again.

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