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I'm with you 100%.

Thanks for your reply. In my humble opinion, John Lennon may have been a reincarnation of you-know-who. Maybe in another couple of millennia there will be a religion centered around his message.

First, glad to see you're back, my friend. Hopefully you were on vaca somewhere nice and summery !!! A gay nude beach with plenty of seaside bushes somewhere comes to mind ... Now. I thought it would take longer than just under 2 months (since the original post), but it hasn't. These hatemongers are on the march, there are millions of them, and the SCOTUS has just proven how determined these so-called "conservatives" are to preserve, protect, and defend the depravities they are so consumed by. Mr. Thomas, with his swollen false pride completely overtaking his twisted foul mind, has directly referenced US now. Do these "conservatives" think people will stop fucking? Who will raise all the babies forced into this maelstrom of the DisUnited States? Who will feed them? Who will care for them, when the rich, pale and powerful care only for their own miseries? These so-called conservatives are interested in conserving one thing, and one thing only: their institutionalized hatreds of 'the other', and history is littered with their despicable acts. These conservatives are all about increasing the Caucasian population, and diminishing every other group's presence in the United States. They think that this will eventually keep them (and their U.T.'s)* in power, and thus preserve and deepen their hatreds of anyone who doesn't measure down to their cultural depths. They will stop at nothing to accomplish this, and today was their first salvo in the coming struggles. They claim to value human life (which begins, they say, at the moment the breeding takes place), but the value only their positions of privilege. They couldn't care less how many "lesser" folks get mown down by weapons of war. They pervert the second amendment into an enabling artifice to kill those of us that don't live in their ivory towers. These people have also perverted the Universal Message of the one they claim to follow. Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, house the homeless, heal the sick. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Period. The rest is cultural garbage and inserted into ancient texts to support the advent of "New Covenant", subsequently rearranged to support the political agenda of the day. Do the research for yourself. Picking one shred of a quote out of the history of the ancient Hebrew people is all they need to grasp at**, and feel justified in our destruction. These are not people of intellect, these are people dedicated to perpetuating cultural hatreds. This is the historical curse of mankind since we crawled out of the caves. The odds are against us, but it is not impossible that we can defeat these dark forces. Take a stand, take action, join progressive groups, resist the tide of hatred. If not for others, then for yourself. We are under serious threat, and if we pull the ostrich routine, our heads will be under the sands of time when the last chance to save our Nation has already passed. Get involved. Take action. Keep fighting. Never give up. Now is the time to join hands with decent people, and do what we can to beat back these hatemongering cretins. NOW. *I can't bring myself to actually type it, but some of you will figure it out. ** the same, tired old phrase sourced in Leviticus

It takes a while to figure out where everything is - and at first we run out of "responses" - the little heart icon at the lower right corner of a post/reply. But, taking part in the conversation, adding your thoughts, will get you outta the clink all the quicker. Good luck !!

Thanks for clearing that up; I managed to misunderstand that the described orgasm is supposed to occur when he's "working" on your mind/body. At first, I thought the goal was singular - and not including when you were "in service". Thanks for the explanation. I can observe, from a Top's perspective, that when I'm fucking a Hole, and the guy shoots without touching himself, I feel like I've done my job fairly well, and it's very pleasing when that happens.

I can't say I quite understand your goal here. Why impose chastity on yourself, when your body clearly needs to have sex? "...... and get many random boners in a day to the point that it is hard to prevent myself from finding a willing hole or jerking off multiple times a day." The way I see it, your body is telling you that more sex is needed, not less. The way I read your post, all you "need" to accomplish the goal of "internal orgasms" is to exercise your prostate to the point you can mentally "exercise" it, and achieve your (and your Dad's) goal. Of course, your Dad knows that intensely sexual men need to empty their balls regularly and often, so as to maintain optimal performance. "Blue-balls" isn't healthy, and it's definitely not much fun.

From your post of earlier this month ......

I'm with MuscledHorse & Damsonffpig. I've heard, of course, of folks getting a face lift, a tit-lift, an ass-lift, but I've never heard of anyone wanting a Hole-lift. Frankly, I don't care how "pretty" a Hole is visually - I care that it's been used by it's owner to suck off many Cocks, and has learned it's skills. The only Holes I don't like are those that are defended by acres of butt cheeks - so far inside the fat of the cheeks I can barely get to it. I don't carry a crowbar to the fuckjoints .....

...."I am always looking for new food to try and new things to do, so feel free to let me know some of your favorite places in the area!"..... So, I did. And it looks to me in the ^ quote, like he's ready to be plucked like a plum. You might be able to introduce him to a new, really hotttt 'favorite place' ..... <filthy grin>

Welcome, hairyscruff. I hope you enjoy Breeding Zone as much as so many of us do. And may I point out that Hole looks delicious !!!

I don't think the actual number of loads matters all that much to Tops. All we really care about is that the Hole is already pre-lubed by other Cocks - 3, 5, 10 loads, doesn't really matter - it's the dedication to one's calling that really counts. The number of loads is merely the proof of the tasty pudding. We like to rut in other men's Sperm inside a Hole, because it's proof that the bottom absolutely loves to take raw Cocks/loads up his gut, and we want/need to be a part of that. We need cumdumps at least as much as cumdumps need us.

So I finally heard back from my old "partner in anon Breeding" back in Chicago. He reports that Jackhammer is (at present) still closed, and thus The Hole in the basement, but the rumor is it's due to reopen "soon". The corner of Clark St & Devon Ave is still worthwhile though, with Touche (a couple doors north of Jackhammer) is open, with the back-bar opening every night at 10 pm. No one fucks in the front bar, only the back bar. Steamworks, over in boystown, is open but requires proof of 2 vaccination shots. Cellblock's (also over in boystown) backbar opens Thurs through Saturday (possibly Sunday too - he didn't know for sure). 1st Saturday of the month is still Bear Night at Touche, and unless you're a Bear, you can easily get squeezed to death if they're still offering free pizza. When it's delivered, if you're less than - - oh - - 250, 300 lbs, run !!! Apparently, that's about it for backroom / group Breeding back in Chicago now. But, he also reported that bbrt is full of group sex ads, and (I'm reading between the lines here) apparently a lot of the group-sex action takes place via the apps now. So, check the various websites for more information. Thanks for your input, Shotsfired. However, Man's Country was torn down several years ago, and a new condo building installed on that Hallowed Ground. The shop at 6410 was a Leather supply/tailor last I was around, but there was a short staircase in back leading up to one of the bars. All I recall about that bar is there was sort of a patio in back, but I never saw anything more than maybe a quick blowjob back there. Of course, that was over 10 years ago ... and I didn't go there all that much. For serious Leather action, there's Chicago Hellfire Club, which (used) to have occasional "open-night" play parties, but you'd have to be invited by a member to get in. If you do go, always do what the "redvests" tell you to do - they won't put up with any silly business at all. You'll probably get one warning, and if there's a second infraction, you'll get tossed out in an eyeblink. But, they're there to make sure no one gets harmed, injured, so it's a good thing.

That does make some sense - but only if perceived in a very limited way. Denigration of someone you're about to have sex with is the tiniest step away from denigrating ones self, as you point out. Denigrating others only drags one down to the same low level as the denigrated ones. If some person (I mean anybody) feels so badly about themselves that the only way they can feel better it so degrade others, there's some fundamental problem at play, which - not being a shrink - I just don't understand. Thanks for the thoughts, as always.

Or, a bit more deeply, the level of acceptance the guy has managed to reach regarding his own confidence in himself, his understanding of who and what he is. accepting his Lusts, and acting upon that acceptance.

Slightly less fantastical, but most likely just as out of reach: Luke Broadwater, occasional commentator on MSNBC. Congressional reporter for the NYT. Wrestled in school. Married (to a woman), no kids (wouldn't it be cool if we knew why). Achingly beautiful, and almost certainly possessed of a fantastically fuckable furry ass. If we're gonna dream, might as well dream the impossible dream !!!

I too am sorry to know this. I do have a question though: how has this experience impacted your relationship with your bf? Or did you not tell him in the first place ......

Of course not. Talk is reeeal cheap .... it's the wanton behavior that counts, and not much else. If a Top wants to know if there's load up the Hole, then get down there and shove your tongue up there and find out. Don't talk about it, don't ask questions about it, just get on the floor and find out what's up there (but do give it the 'sniff-test' first, just in case ...)

So, basically you're a man who's very comfortable in his own skin, comfortable with his decisions, and not in need of everyone else's acceptance. You've carved out a productive life, you're enjoying the fruits of your labors, you're enjoying sating your Lusts, and your life is on track, just as it should be. What more can we ask of ourselves? We're two peas in a pod; at this point, I have pretty much everything I want (still no Duesenberg though), and it sounds like we're both in control of our lives, and happy with our decisions. But I still envy that fantastic SpermScoop .... 😛

Well, I am, for a couple of reasons: 1. It's just not all that enticing to get hook-ups on the apps in this burg. I don't happen to want drugs in my home, or guys that have just used, and this town is soaked in drugs. 2. Which means, by default I hit the public places far more than private homes (mine or someone else's). In the public bars/backrooms/fuckjoints I don't have a dog in the fight whether some guy is high as a kite. I'll fuck him from here to there, and then on to the next one. There's nothing but the Lust involved, and no guy flying on who-knows-what is going to pull any deleterious stunts in a public place. 3. It's clearly not conducive to achieving that "connection" I like to go on about, but it can happen in the fuckjoints. Then again, I'm not really in the market for a relationship (a-la live-in) so there's that too. I've widened my focus - a "connection" is great, but a real connection, i.e. "relationship", isn't my goal at this point. If it happens, that would be lightening striking twice, and lightning just doesn't like to do that.

I had already been living in Chicago for a number of years before hiv came along, everyone had sex (obviously, sans condoms*) with everyone else, and at the drop of a hat. It didn't amount to much more than saying something like "hi - let's fuck" in the bars. As I recall, there were plenty of guys on both sides of the issue (T & b), but - it was a long time ago too. I do remember that at the gh joints, guys would suck Cocks through the gh's, and then very carefully switch from mouth to hand, stand up, turn around, and try to "stealth" the Cock up their Hole, without the other guy knowing it. This was as hiv was racing through the community, and almost everyone was afraid to fuck raw, since guys were dropping like flies. I think one of the reasons there appears to be a dearth of Tops, is the advent and subsequent widespread use of dick-shrinking drugs. I used poppers occasionally, but I'm referencing the "hard" junk so widespread today. It just wasn't around that much, and usually associated with cocaine/needles/lighters & spoons, 'drug-dens" on the South Side**, etc. Not all that many guys were interested in drugs over sex, as I recall. I know that a lot of bottoms are complaining about a lack of Tops lately, but if a guy inclined to Top more than bottom chooses being a junkie over being a Breeder, well ..... choices are choices. *I do recall hearing about guys that had fetish-ized condoms, which - back then - seemed silly to me, and if I ever met one, I didn't know it. They were a minority within a minority though. **obviously, a mistaken, ignorant, racially-based supposition

Hello, Chris, and welcome to the site. I hope you enjoy reading the various threads, and offering your perspective as well.

I don't understand why some men seem to associate demeaning others with inflating themselves. It simply doesn't make any kind of sense. At least you do know that there are some men who value cumdumps at the highest level, and honor them for living their calling truthfully and sincerely. I suppose we could just put it down to insecure men pretending to be something other than what they are. Every guy knows that without men like you, the rest of us would be s.o.l.

Well said. I agree completely, and have utmost respect for bottoms that prep themselves thoroughly. Which is one of the reasons I very seldom allow a guy to fuck me - "precise circumstances"- describes it perfectly.

Actually, after giving this some thought I think I somewhat agree with you. Only a few years ago when I was in a backroom/fuckjoint rutting in Holes, there were usually other guys on my left doing the same, and on my right as well. Sometimes we'd compliment each other - swap Holes, talk Breedshit about how hot this Hole is, blah blah blah. As I thought about it while doing other stuff, that doesn't happen all that much anymore. I don't have any idea why, but the one extraordinary thing that has happened is covid - but that would inhibit all guys, I would think - not just Tops. I think you're right, but I don't have much of an idea why - sorry .......

Can't say I've ever used it, but - word has it there's some doo-dad somewhere on BZ that relieves us of having to wade through ridiculous, time-wasting, poorly-imagined, and even more poorly constructed nonsense. I know it's somewhere around here on the site ... I'll keep looking ....