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This reminds me of one of my buddies from a few years ago. He was the "baby" of the family, with 4 older sisters. Time and time and time again, he'd get a new bf, and then turn into one of his sisters !!! I had met 3 of these sisters, and it was painfully obvious that he learned how to be in a relationship from watching his sisters deal with their various boyfriends. Nine out of ten gay men will put up with that crap for about one minute !!! I tried to explain it - help him - but every damn time he reverted to acting like the 5th youngest sister.

Ok. New rule. No more of this "it's my fault" that he might cheat on his wife. That's not your issue, it's his. Since you have a bf whom you're apparently not cheating on, and since you wouldn't like being cheated on, only you can answer if it's too much to ask that the man "make room for you". It seems the closeness you and he have developed (lots of texts, meeting up for lunch, spending time together) is not sufficient for either of you. Therefore, what will be sufficient? Either "cheating" is ok, or it isn't* - across the board - and only according to how you choose to live your life. Your first sentence above is important. You don't want him to feel badly, you don't want to feel badly, and that's understandable. I think figuring out exactly, precisely what you mean by "make room" for you needs some thoughtful reflection. Above, you ask "why am I doing this ...". Answer yourself, and be truthful with yourself. Take your time to figure it out. What does "make some time for me" really mean? How will it impact your current relationship? There's an old saying I've found helpful in many different areas of concern: If X is true, then why is it true. One last thing: If you think there is corruption in your country, quadruple that when you consider corruption in other countries. But that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish, as the old saying goes. Best wishes .... *I know some men find the act of "cheating" enticing, exciting, and almost a fetish. It's not for anyone to judge anyone else on their sexual proclivities, and if the notion is a sexual thrill for you, then it just is; accept that part of you and move forward.

Well, thanks for the most interesting replie(s). I've read subsequent responses, and must admit I am simply not familiar with these (obviously sincere) observances. I try to keep an open mind, but in my experience, a cumdump in a sling only draws longer lines. There is one exception, that being when one bottom who, for various reasons, is not likely to gather much attention (I'm being as polite as possible here), and just lies in said sling preventing any other guy from taking advantage of it. That's peculiar to the tubs, fuckclubs, of course. This is one of the reasons I like BZ so much - so many ways of considering any give situation that can be completely new to me. The only possible answer that comes to mind is, a Top may be somewhat intimidated not by the equipment, but by the clear demonstration that the bottom is a cumdump - gladly accepting any/all loads up his Hole. I would put that down to a Top uncomfortable in his own skin, not confident in his Lusts, maybe even still carrying cultural baggage not yet tossed on the garbage heap. So. Next time I see a bottom lying unattended in a sling for more than 10, 15 minutes, I'll make it a point to step up and do my duty - even if he's not quite the slutcandy I generally gravitate to. Thanks for all the replies.

As usual, our Tall Slim Gentleboy out West has some excellent suggestions. I think you're a bit ahead of your Professor/cum/friend in understanding, perceptions, and I applaud your concern re seeming too pressing. This man - from what I've read - is clearly attracted to you, and it is anything but clear in his own mind. He's made decisions he may be questioning, he may be going through a bit of a catharsis, and literally afraid to show his hand for fear of your interest waning. The fact that you're "just a physician" ("just"? That's a wonderful thing !!) and he's head of some other department is not really germane to the issue. What is germane, is that two men, perhaps burdened with some measure of hesitation, are attracted to each other in a substantial way. The age-difference is - in a rather small way, I think - potentially germane, but not crucial to the issue at hand. What is the crux of the issue, as I understand it, is that two men feel a deep connection on an emotional level, perhaps even deeper, and both are trying their best to encourage growth and acceptance within themselves and each other, without causing hurt to the other. It sounds like there's the kind of "connection" developing, that I often reference as one of the most beautiful events two men can experience together. Give him time. Continue to be as supportive, patient, generous-of-heart as you can possibly be. From what I've absorbed in this thread so far, you may be one of the luckier men around. I think this complexity will begin to unravel, and in your favor, in the coming weeks. As the old saying goes: Rome wasn't built in a day, and it took a thousand years for Rome to fall. Kindness, gentleness will most likely pay off enormous dividends, if neither of you allows the other to feel awkward, pressed too hard, all of that. Good luck !!!

Allow me to disagree? #1. No Top I've ever fucked bottoms with is anywhere close to intimidated by the simple mechanics of a sling. #2. Why would a Top be "worried" about anything? All he cares is that your Hole is hot, and he's rutting in it. I doubt a Top would give a rats ass whether you (or anyone else) saw him or didn't see him. #3. That can happen, of course, in which case the Top will ameliorate the positioning without giving it another thought. Usually, the Top will notice variations in stature, etc, and get the equipment in it's most useful state before the scene even starts. To the rest, that is completely unfamiliar to me. Standing is the "default" position of fucking in a backroom, fuckjoint, etc. Thanks for your input.

Yes, I do know, and yes, they will. This will present you with a delicious opportunity when the security folks come to feel you up. Once, I started to unbutton the jeans as I asked them if they wanted to see for themselves .... one of them certainly did, and two of them definitely did not !!! This was at O'Hare, tons of people everywhere, and even the passers-by enjoyed the spectacle. The security people stopped me before I could get it out - but it was fun anyway.

For clarity, the 81 year old friend of mine is the Top ... and he's only been retired for a year or so now. He's the one who was complemented so beautifully. I agree. The more years of Breeding, the more experience, abilities, talents accrue to us. The blush of youth may be long gone (thankfully), but the years of honing our craft only get better and better.

Perhaps of interest; the original post specifically included the reference to maga, and in caps. Thus, the initial political statement did not come from any of the responses, it was included in the original post, and any reference to it would naturally be included in some responses. Thus, when anyone 2, 3 pages later wonders where the political divisiveness is derived from, the answer is it came from the original post. Such a politically-charged post will obviously invite politically-charged replies.

This is an interesting thread, and I'm starting to think tallslenderguy's right. It could very well be that the Professor, earlier in life feeling cultural pressure, married against his inklings to conform to cultural expectations. If that's the case, I'm sorry he felt he had to do that. Academia can be crushing in it's expectations. IF he's actually gay, and has finally met a young man who pushes his buttons emotionally, it may well be the he's the terrified one, afraid of his reactions to you, afraid of what might follow if he allows himself to get too close to you, afraid of all kinds of things. Yet, he cannot help himself being in contact with you as often as plausibly possible. You're walking a tightrope here - there are all kinds of wonderful possibilities, and more than a handful of negative consequences as well. Is there some way you two could be in a situation where someone/something else gay-related, other than you two - could be interacted with? That would at least put the subject of "gayness" within the purview of acceptable (read non-threatening) conversation. My point is, he seems very drawn to you, and you to him. While this creates an unresolved tension between you, some contrivance whereby it would be natural to comment during your many conversations about an "outside" event that might be gay-related (I mean see a movie with gay characters, go to some event where there will be a handful of gay guys, something non-threatening, yet visible, and thus "mentionable" between you) as a means to at least introduce the subject of gayness obliquely? If there's a chance to experience that very special bond between two men, I very much hope that you figure out how to broach the subject before either of you make a faux pas that cannot be undone. Yet, my vote is for trying your best to help him over what may be his fears, not yours. If the facts, as you perceive them, are anywhere near correct, then you may be able to experience one of the most wonderful things gay men can share. Best wishes .....

"ieatcumholes" awwwww shucks ..... I didn't think it could happen anymore, but I'm actually blushing .... Once again, we're on the same page. The other night in the darkroom, some guy tried to shove poppers up my nose. I jerked my head away and thought "you beginner - you don't know what Lust smells like at all". Smell and taste are very closely aligned, and a well-Bred Hole beats poppers hands down every time. Having never tasted poppers, I can't comment about it's taste, but I do know that a Sperm-sloppy Hole is haute dining at it's finest. That settles it. We're BROTHERS !!!!!! Almost twins, I reckon.

I agree completely. If/when any of us develop a "friendship" with other BZ'ers, in my opinion it's best to share actual information with them via other means than a website where anyone can access it. I wonder how many gay-haters are trolling through our commentaries. It would definitely be an improvement if all the content could somehow be restricted to actual, verified members of our wonderfully wanton lives.

One of my friends is 81, and with the inevitable slowdown, he's now officially "retired" from fucking. We never fucked Holes together, but I heard any number of times that he was exceptionally well endowed. Occasionally we go out for lunch or supper, and the last time was about a month ago, to a "crab shack" out west of the city. While we were eating, a guy came over to our table, and said - this is totally true, on my hopes of Whatever - "You don't remember me, but I remember you ..." - with a silly grin on his face. The point? No matter how many years go by, talent nd ability in our calling, developed over many years, is remembered and appreciated.

Agreed. Once a burgeoning cumdump awakens to his inborn purpose, he's on his way. What better instigator than a hard raw Cock?

ErosWired: Same way I had my tv operated on when I bought it. The tv simply won't go to Fox (unless there's a good game on). 😁

You either are or you aren't. It's inborn, a completely natural force of your nature. Cocks can't "convert you into a cumdump", Cocks can only service a cumdump. Cocks need, require cumdumps, but we don't create them. Maybe you're already a cumdump and have always been one, only haven't taken the opportunities to act on your needs yet.

IEatCumHoles: Yeah, it's really sounding like we're chips off the same block. BUT !!! You got the better tongue. Mine isn't nearly as "useful" as yours is, I got ripped off, and I'm telling Mom !!! Granted, I do my best, but I downright envy that tongue !!!

As always, ^ is perfectly reasoned, and would be a welcome alteration to the site. Thanks, BootmanLA.

I'll agree with that, since the actual number isn't what's really being asked. What the Top really wants to know, is the bottom committed enough to his Lusts to need, want many Cocks pumping loads up his Hole. Most Tops are excited by a bottom that simply loves raw Cock rutting in his Hole. What's really being asked, disguised as x number of loads, is simply "Are you (the bottom) so in love with raw Cock that you'll take any/all Cocks, take their loads, and joyfully so? After all - somebody's gotta be the first of the night ..... It's the behavior that counts, not the actual number of loads.

I'm guessing that this thread will shortly be moved to the "Politics" area, and will hold my - er, fingers - until then. But there's someone (or two) that have been seriously misled.

100% SPOT ON. The difference between EW and I though, is while he's dedicated to his craft, and I to mine, I get to fukkin choose, and he has forsworn that option. I haven't, and if some maga-bedecked* idiot wanted my Cock, the very rocks would weep before he'd get it. *with no anti-human regalia involved, no one would know the depths of hatred in his heart/mind, and of course I'd gladly rut in his Hole. The choice to identify oneself culturally is exactly that, and asks to be responded to in kind. A wet, full Hole is great - an empty head is not. I hope the poster is more interested in "butch", masculine men - and not merely political cripples interested in saving the last, desperate, dying gasps of White Privilege.

So I had to consider this one for a while. I would say that yes, while I don't care to admit it, fairness dictates that I must. When I first started fucking guys, I was 19 or so. And, I was far more - well - "picky" about appearance than I am now. Just a stupid kid that didn't know better, I guess. But one thing about going away to school is, we find out that there's a big fat wonderfully diverse world out there, and we learn to start thinking for ourselves (and not necessarily via course-work). After a few years, realized that there are many kinds/types of men that love raw Cock up their gut, and I need to mate with as many as I can. I've managed to come from mostly guys that looked like me, to mostly guys that don't. More, I've come to realize that a lot of the cruising stuff is extraneous, and what counts is the sexual act of fucking loads up other men's Holes. Many Cocks, many Holes, double that for the balls, all needing to mate with each other, over and over and over. "Connect" with each and every one of them, when that's available. When it's not, every guy still deserves to have his Lusts honored. Now, the only thing that will turn me off - and right quickly - is an unprepped bottom. Other than that, the range of diversity among men dedicated to wanton sex is truly breathtaking, and I very much need to be a part of it. It's always all about Cock/Hole/Sperm - and precious little else.

In the backrooms or fuckjoints, when I eat a Hole before rutting in it, if it's really full of loads all I say is "wow - well done - how many Cocks have you taken so far ..." or something like that. It seems to me that asking before anything happens isn't worth the bother. If there's Sperm up there already, great. If not, rut a bit and then move on to the next one - or pump it full and then move on. I really love a full, well-Bred Hole.

If it were me, I'd put on a show for the bf, and do your best to be as enticing about it as you can. When another guy steps up, encourage him, tell him how much your bf loves raw Cock up his Hole, compliment him, and if there are others waiting, see if you can get one or two of them into the verbal scene too. Even if you feel like leaving, you're still the Ringmaster of the scene, and you should take that responsibility seriously. If your bf wants you to leave, sure - go and come back later. If he doesn't, you need to be the "enabler" not only for your bf, but for the other Cocks there to Breed him. When I was doing scenes like this, I always was around, to make sure nothing deleterious happens, and to keep the boy's Hole full of rutting Cocks. Tops tend to like filthy verbal encouragement. Make the Top feel good about what he's doing, and your bf will get a better Breeding out of it.

I'm guessing that he was a "crasher" - probably a local who didn't buy any tickets, and snuck in on someone else's arm. There ae always a few dullards like that, and kudos to your manners for not tossing him out even faster.

That's what bothered me when I was looking around for a warm place to move to. Sure, PS itself has a lot going for it, sexually. It seemed too "plastic" - nothing is "grounded", everything's there to reinforce the illusion. And then, PS just stops - it just ends, and there's nothing but the damn desert. In every direction. I found it really suffocating. I guess living all your life in major metro areas will do that to you. Get in the car, and go in any direction, with civilization all around you at all times. No regrets about choosing Ft.L.