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May I mention that all life excretes waste. Insects, animals, all living thing creatures piss and/or shit. It's a biological function of living. Eat, shit, repeat. Love, on the other hand, ranks far higher on the scale of life. It's emotional, rather than biological. It's a conjoining of humanness, which, in my opinion, is far above merely a biological function of necessity. More, how that capability to love is expressed varies widely in focus. Love is not something we earn, it's something we consciously and gratefully accept, and then return-in-kind. In our corner of the sexuality world, some of us feel "meant", "born to it", "the need to follow our nature" and fuck each other, and hopefully find a partner that embraces a similar view. I see it as perfectly natural, wholesome and satisfying.

That you are, young man ... there's this thing called an air-conditioner ... make it colder, and drag that guy back under the covers with you !!!😇

^ needs a one-word editing job: "I love the idea that he knows I'm a proud cumdump." Tops love it too !!

It always surprises me when a multi-year-old post suddenly springs to life again ... That said, if it's your inborn nature to be a cumdump, then why not revel in that fact? If it's your "truth", then accept it and practice your truth. What possible reason could there be to denying your calling - to yourself ??? If you need professional help getting over the cultural bs that may be restricting you, by all means get professional help with that. But never turn your back on your Truth.

And I'm happy for the both of you. Ditching the cultural bs we've been raised with, and listening to our own hearts and minds (and lusts) will almost always lead us to where we need to be. Kudos, bud !!

What's so "conceited" about that response? Sounds more like you know yourself, you know what you want, what you don't, and run your life accordingly. That's not conceit; that's self-confidence.

I hadn't thought of it in this context, and now that I have, it's true: While I was "happy" before I met him, somewhat content with my life (career, all of that), I had no idea of what life could be. I had just moved to the Big City back then, and was busy fucking everything in sight. There was a gap, in that I didn't realize at the time that there might possibly be so much more. Maybe the fact that I considered myself happy, and therefore wasn't "on the hunt" for more, that I was open to the real deal when it presented itself. Thanks for pointing this out. It's always a good day when we learn something new - particularly about ourselves. I appreciate your insights.

Per the completely mis-named Mr. Justified, I've started a response to this guy a number of times, and each time it only got worse and worse. Thank you, EW, for a clear, concise and well written reply. My attempts devolved quickly into text I simply didn't want to put out there. And I'm posting this reply now - lest I succumb to temptation to really burn this .... well .... "person".

For me, it's the thrill of the hunt. In a different thread, the comparison of men to beasts (sexually) was well made. Our innate sexual drive to pump our seed up the guts of as many men as possible is powerful, and it's only that particular instinct which carries the power. Of course, preserving our lives is the most powerful of all, but Breeding anonymously, nothing but Cock pumping Sperm up Holes answers one of our most fundamental, driving, innate needs. No names, no faces, only rutting men performing that which is required; that endless thrill of mating.

For once, I disagree. There is no human experience that I know of more fulfilling, wonderful than loving a guy completely, and knowing he loves you back completely. I had that for 30 years, and it made me a far better man than if I had only thought of myself, my inclinations, my own self-sufficiency. Of this, I am completely, 100% positive. When he became ill, I was there for him. When I went through an illness, he was there for me. When he was unable to handle things, I was there to make all the terrible, gut-wrenching decisions. And had it been me seriously ill, there is not a scintilla of doubt in my mind he would have been there to set me free. Partner, boyfriend, lover, life-companion, call it whatever suits, and be happy, grateful, thankful that love found you, and you found love. All the rest, the fucking, the backrooms, isn't more than a puff of smoke in the wind, comparatively. Sorry, but this time I think the friend mentioned above has a far less healthy outlook on relationships than our poster. I happen to think that if we're lucky enough to find only one "soulmate", that can be enough to carry us our entire lives. Friends, buddies are all great, and they do come and go. But sharing real Love in one's life is the greatest of gifts.

Well, I can't even remember the last time I went on a "date". To me, that would imply dinner, followed by the theatre, or a concert or whatever, followed by (maybe) a fuck, if the two guys liked each other enough after the "getting to know you" dance. A hookup, on the other hand, implies none of the above, (except, of course) the fuck. Either at one guy's place, or even meeting for a drink and then hitting the backroom for the fuck. One implies the mutual desire to become acquainted, the other only "you're hot, let's fuck".

Around here, that's certainly the case. You'd think that many Floridians have never heard of covid. But then, that pie-faced excuse of a Governor hasn't helped either. The good news is, every gay guy I know has been triple vacced, and waiting for the next shot. I know a number of guys that have come down with omicron, none with any serious illness. Still, I've taken a hiatus from my favorite fuckjoint, so it's not back to normal for many of us. Now that the snowbirds have come back to SoFl, the streets are full again.

I didn't read it as the guy is trying to pass the bottom off as his biological son. There are tons of Daddy/boy relationships that work well, with no biological connection. I would agree that there are probably very, very few actual successful Father/son sexual relationships out there, but there are plenty of guys into the scene. Actual incest is not cool, but "pretend" Daddy/boy scenes - especially well-planned orgies - can be fantastic.

But, you're not wrong. DCslutHole, when you compose your posting for the event, you really do need to stress the Daddy/boy part. There are more guys in that kind of arrangement than you may think, and (speaking for myself) I know there are other Tops that love watching their boy take loads off other Cocks. Also, make clear that it's to be a "swapping" event - boys strongly encouraged to take any/all Cocks, Tops strongly encouraged to at least rut in a number of Holes, Breed as many as possible. The pig farms around your area will be missing a lot of pork in the morning, but you'll have one sweaty fuckuva good time. I think I've mentioned this in another thread, but for a couple of years I kept a cumslut, and always loved watching him take loads at the orgies - usually fucking another Hole close by. BIG turn-on !!

Well ...... How about sloppy twentieths ?? Better and better !!

Agreed. If a guy goes to the tubs, has sex with 1 guy, maybe 2, his risk level for contracting an STD is exponentially lower than if he took 20 loads off different Cocks, or fucked 20 different guys, or ate loads out of 20 different Holes. Oddly, what used to be "enough" years ago, just isn't anymore; thus I put more importance on the regular check-ups, etc. Ever deeper depravities lead to ever greater chances.

Thanks for adding your perspective !

YUP .....

Interesting thread ... I think that having sex is critical to every well-balanced gay man. It's one of our defining characteristics, thus gay men that say it's not "critical" either have some issues to resolve within themselves, or - like Lucy - have some 'Splainin to to. But there is one paramount quality to a successful gay relationship which trumps (ptu)* even sex: Each guy in the relationship must respect and honor and hopefully feel some measure of love for the other. It doesn't have to be head-over-heels, but a substantial measure of caring for the other guy seems the most important quotient of a successful relationship. That would - of course - obviously lead to an important sexual component. Expressing love/care for another generally includes sharing sex - but I suppose a relationship could survive without it. So, I would say that yes, sex plays a critical role in a gay relationship. *pardon the usage Any conclusion you arrive at is appropriate, assuming you've made the effort to consider all variables that may apply. The examples you give would imply a poor self-image on the part of these guys, for any number of potential reasons. That said, most gay men - probably almost all - that would consider having a relationship with someone who wants to withhold the sex would be almost guaranteeing failure of the relationship. Fucking doesn't have to be everything, but it's gotta be an important part - with apologies to the cake-baker. If some guy I really liked wanted to stay with me for a while, was a raw bottom, and thought he could deny me his Hole, he'd be "excused" in damn short order. On the other hand, if some guy I really liked wanted me to fuck him every day, whore him, make the most of his Lusts, I'd go get the truck out of the garage and help him move ... LOL

I agree. The silliness of the human construct of the ancient Judeo-cum-Christian belief-systems is off-putting to anyone who pauses to reflect on that institution's actual value. The deity we call "God" today went by other names in the distant past, probably the earliest of which is "El", a regional war-god who inspired Joshua to butcher the residents of the "God-given" land in the Middle East. Without going into all the manupilative bs, and having rejected Organized Religion since my teens, suffice to say that I have arrived at the following: We human beings have, within ourselves, the capacity to choose our path. We have the capacity to recognize Good, and also Evil. If (X) exists, then Anti-(X) must also exist, and we either make a conscious choice which to follow, or drift aimlessly within our lack of making that choice. Some folks never bother to ponder these greater issues, and that's a shame. Maybe some are not able, and that's an even greater sorrow. No one is perfect; we are all, to some extent, victims of our own human-ness. For myself, I reject the manipulations of O.R., and walk my own path, my own search for a deeper understanding, my own spirituality. Each of us needs to choose which path to follow. Every one of us messes up in small or large ways, every day; it's part of being a human being. What's different is, we have the capacity (if we use it), to try to do better next time. Plus, we get to decide what "better" actually is. Well, that has never happened to me, even when I used the cruise apps. I'm guessing that the guy who initiate communication with "hail" falls into one of at least two camps: 1. He's made his choice to follow a certain path, and is announcing his decision by using that greeting. 2. He's fundamentally misinterpreted what the term "cumdump" means (if that word appears in any of your profiles/text on the apps - it does here on BZ, so logic would say it may on other profiles too). For many, that is somewhat of a pejorative, when in fact, it reflects a high calling indeed. A life of service - particularly when that service engenders personal danger, and offered to all, is to be upheld, honored, and respected. In the darkrooms, I don't give a hoot what path the bottoms I rut in follow, or if they follow any path at all. In those places - "meat-markets" - there is only one purpose. Yet, even in those places, we can avoid harming others, do our best to give pleasure sating their lusts while sating our own. In other words, giving what we have to those who need it. Sharing. Celebrating. Connecting. While I have never had the experience of some guy trying to initiate a chat with that particular term, I would probably merely reply with something like "thanks, not interested", or similar. That said, I don't even use the cruise apps anymore, for reasons explained in another thread. Well thought out. I believe that this temporal plane is not the only level of consciousness, and probably lower in value that other, more ineffable ones. If I believed that I would never, ever "experience" my life-partner again, in some unimaginable way, I would be less of a human being than I am, holding that hope. What that plane of existence is, I cannot begin to say. But, as the saying goes, Love conquers all, and I remain hopeful. While I know that "religiousity" isn't for me, I simply feel that one fine day, in some way or another, I will.

Actually, this is an area of discussion I knew nothing about at all. I'd heard of it through the years, so I investigated a bit on what this really is. From what I learned, there's not much to it. Substituting one historical (and dramatically altered through the millennia) figure for an even more ancient mythological figure seems not worth the bother - at least to me. Religiosity, in whatever form, seems to require beliefs that only support the believer's personal viewpoints, outlook, strengths or weaknesses. There's not much more than meets the eye (I mean, the drawings, symbolism, iconography of "Ms. Palin") to it. Just another belief-system that depends on silly magic stuff like the virgins giving birth, walking on water, resurrection, blah blah blah.

Bingo ... and the chronological age is irrelevant.

Well, I certainly don't love the jerk, but I don't want him dead either. I believe that harboring hatreds towards others only diminishes ourselves, so I do make the effort not to indulge. That said, if he got run down by a truck, I doubt I'd send flowers to the funeral. Still, it was a very hot fuck ... so, maybe I'd send a bouquet of - - - oh - - - dandelions ???

Philip, for different but similar reasons, I retained a gay internist just to take care of these particular needs (I seldom hit the tubs, but I see him there almost every time I do). This internist is not associated with any other health-care insurer, and I pay him in currency. Also, I get tested for all the little bugs on a monthly basis, since my proclivities tend to attract them occasionally. Better to take precautions early, right? Also, I no longer even bother with the online cruise sites; this burg is soaked in drugs, particularly the gay ones, and I avoid guys that are somewhere in the "clouds", since I much prefer to fuck guys that are "present". I couldn't agree more. For that matter, never feel ashamed of doing what you need to do, regardless of societal pressure. We're born how we're born, and we don't need to feel one ounce of shame about being the men we were born to be, and acting on those needs. I generally limit practicing my Lusts to weekend nights in the fuckjoints, but only so I don't slack off on other responsibilities. Philip, the fact is, yes - we're going to catch bugs - maybe even a serious one. That fact doesn't mitigate our need for unbridled, wanton Breeding however, so it's up to us to take our individual responsibilities to heart. For me, it's a small price to pay.

Cripe ... these comments make me feel old .... I have not one scintilla of a clue what they're discussing ... 🙄