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I went down to Vault on one of the naked Thursdays, looking for a good long night, and definitely found it! I arrived around 6, you can catch the end of the afternoon crowd and get a few loads before Naked kicks in. So got undressed, and went into the main room, naked, with others clothed, wandering around, makes me super horny! I climbed onto the soft bench space, pushed my ass out and waited. Of course I was so horny I could help but finger my ass as I waited, which I had pre lubed. Quite a lot of people milling around, a few strokes, and quite quickly I can see a guy shifting in behind me. I hear him unzip, a finger circles my slick hole, I hear a sigh of satisfaction and he pushes his cock in. Its about average, perfect for the first fuck, and he is hard as nails. I lean back to get him fully in and he responds, pushing hard, and we find a good rhythm as I push back against his thrusts, feeling him fill me up. IN no time he is groaning, pulsating and blasting me with my first load! As he slips out, some cum dribbles out and I can’t help but finger my now cum sloppy hole. The scene has clearly excited some else, and an older guy comes over, and starts fingering my hole. He rubs the cum around the hole, gently pushing his finger in, loosening me up. I groan, it feels so good, that sense of a first load giving you a sticky cumhole, and the expectation of the next fuck. Once he has played around for a few minutes his finger leaves and he presses his face against my hole, licking the cum. So good! Warm and bristly, he prepares my hole. A few minutes of him slurping, and rubbing his cock and he then stands up and thrusts straight in. I gasp and lean by hips back, opening my ass and resting my head in my hands as I can feel he is really going to work my hole. We set up a rhythm, as he gently slides in, holds and out, I am opening my hole to feel him more fully, and push the cum onto his cock. His fucking is perfect, gentle nudging of the hole, his head teasing me, then sliding in fully. It feels so good, I reach back and feel his balls and the cum around my hole. I love feeling the cock with my fingers, slipping over his hard cock as he slides in and out, the cummy stickiness around it and his tight balls. This slow gentle and fulfilling fuck goes on for maybe 10’, it really is perfect and I rest my head on the cushion, lean back and use my arse to open and close around his thrust. Gradually he speeds up, he starts to groan loudly and with my hand sliding under I can feel his balls tighten. He thrusts one last time, spasms four or five times and leans onto me. We rest a short while and then he cock softening, he slowly slides out and I catch a nice gob of cum dribbling off his cock. He pats me, whispers thanks, and heads out. I get a few more cocks before seven, when they call everyone to get leave or get naked. At this point the place is filling up with more and more naked bodies and hard cocks. Typically, it slows down, you can see people wandering around, checking each other out, seeing what is on offer. My arse is nicely sticky, there is cum on the cushion under my hips and as people walk by I clench and unclench my hole, hopefully a signal that I am ready, and can promise a good fuck. I love this early anticipatory sense of possibilities, how many cocks, how many loads, it heightens my sluttiness. People fingering, pausing, slapping my ass as they circulate. And by the end of the evening I will have taken at least 10 loads, and maybe had 20 fucks in the 4 hours. I won’t go into all the details, but a few highlights There is a guy, who over the night fucks me maybe four times. His cock isn’t big, and he wears a condom (except the last time, as ever!). But he has the beautiful slow penetration, a slow bottoming out and he moves his cock inside me pushing the sides, exploring. He pulls out and teases my hole and it feels so good I really relax into his style. Of course the last time, he pulls of the condom, speeds up, moans and moans and rabbit fucks me for about a minute before holding my hips tight, pushing his pelvis hard against me and shooting deep inside. There is always going to be the pump and dump guy. Its about half way through the evening, probably 4 or 5 loads in. I am kneeling down, looking between my legs to see guys shuffle by. I must have been recently fucked as I remember this young, thick legged guy with a wide long cock. I fingered my hole, scooped up some of the cum and pushed it in. He moved quickly, stroking his cock and then just rammed it in, deep and hard. It took my breath away, but I opened up, thrust back and over the next 5 minutes we hammered each other hard before he stopped, deep inside and unloaded. His cock, still hard, slipped out and he disappeared into the crowd. I love a pump and dump! During a series of fucks a young guy, maybe 20, got on the cushions, lifted my head up and waved his semi hard cock in my face. It was a thing of beauty, thick, maybe 7 or 8 inches, a perfect cock. I swallowed it, and slurped invitingly, as he thrust in and out my mouth. He lifted my head and kissed, we snogged passionately, and then again he pushed me down to his cock, me sucking again and then again snogging hard, frenzied. I dropped my head and licked his nipples. He jumped off the cushion, stroked his cock and got behind me. I shuffled back and opened my legs wider, pushing back and opening up. He grabbed my hips and slammed in, his cock stiffening and hardening as he thrust in and out. It was frenzied, like his kissing and I opened up fully, let him feel the cum, thrust back hard to meet his thrusts in. I was clenching as he pulled out, to keep him in, and opening up as he pushed back in to invite that cock to really go deep. This young buck kept it up for maybe 10 minutes before finally pushing one more time in, his cock hardened, I could feel the base with my hand, pulsating and shooting his cum deep inside. An older guy, tall, skinny cam behind me. Another guy next to him was encouraging him “breed him, breed the slut!” I opened my legs wider, dropped my hips to let him know I was up for this – though the quantity of cum around my hole, on the cushion, was testimony enough. He had a nice cock, may 6”, curved down with a plump mushroom head. He pushed in semi-hard and I opened to accommodate him. He stopped and stayed, deep inside. I clenched and unclenched to get him harder. I reached back and stroked his balls, feeling the stickiness around them from my hole. It got him harder and he started to lean in to fuck me, his cock moving nearly all the way out, the mushroom head nestling against my hole, and then pushing hard and deep inside me, the squelch of my hole audible. He continued this for maybe 10’, pulled out, and I could see him shuffle to the guy next to me, also bent over. I leaned back and could feel the thrusts he was giving this other bottom, next to me. I was still enjoying the aftermath of his first assault, and fingered my hole, pushing out some of the spunk. He probably fucked the other guy for 5’, and then, maybe my obvious horniness drew him back, but his cock, now harder, pushed once more into my hole. He was on his last thrusts, the guy next to him was encouraging him – “breed him!”. He leant in, tensed and shot deep, then pulled his cock out. I put my hand under my balls and felt him spurt one more time onto my ass, onto my hand. Bliss! I left around 10, 4 hours of fucking, 10 or so loads, a full and happy hole! Vault definitely delivered!

6) Adam I had no clue my Stepbrother was gay, although I suspected that he might be, when I bonded with Shayne I felt a relief, I knew I would have to eventually come clean to James and Mark, no matter how much that thought turned me on. When Jake, my stepdad, told me he knew about Shayne and me, I thought he would be pissed, when he announced he wanted to take us out for “boys night out”, I thought he would arrange some macho activity that would show us how to be men. I was at first disappointed that I wouldn’t be able to spend my last Saturday night before school started again with Robert, I was excited that I could at least spend it with Shayne and Jake. I texted Robert throughout the day detailing my exploits with Shane and our fun at the gym. At about six thirty I showered and prepared for the evening, Jake letting Shayne and me an idea as to wardrobe would be, casual, so slipped on some jeans and a polo shirt. Shayne wore about the same, we headed down to the car and Jake produced a couple of blindfolds and told us to slip them on. Jake got in the car and tarted it up, pulled out of the driveway and drove for what seemed to be hours, but in reality was only thirty minutes, I figured he had doubled back a few time to disorient us to our destination. I felt Jake Park the car and he helped Shayne and me exit the vehicle. He took each of us by the arms and led us to a doorway, opened it and ushered us inside, then up the few stairs, then placed us still blindfolded off to the side, he presented our ID’s and Shayne’s membership card then purchased a six month one for me. The attendant buzzed us in and Jake opened his bag, to be inspected, and grabbed our towels and keys and escorted us to our lockers where he had us remove the blindfolds. I stood before a locker and Jake handed me a towel and the corresponding key and ordered us to strip, then wrap the towel around our waist then meet him at his room, 234. I was instantly hard, my cock tenting out the towel as I wrapped it around me, we headed down to the room, Shayne evidently knowing where it was and Jake greeted us at the door in a towel and a hot yellow chest harness. Jake guided us towards the back of the facilities and into a clean out room. It looked like any bathroom I’ve ever been in with a strange nozzle contraption on the wall next to the commode, Jake connected a tubing to the nozzle and instructed me to straddle the toilet facing the wall, then squat over the toilet, he placed the tubing next to my hole and leaned on the lever, a gush of water shot past my sphincter and into my rectum he counted to five then told me to clench and hold it in. he had me sit down and after about thirty seconds he instructed me to push out. A gush of water and fecal material exited my bowel then he repeated the process three more time until nothing else came out but clear water. He then had Shayne do the same, then he had me do one final time then Shayne. Being satisfied his boys were clean enough to eat off of, he led us back to the room. Upon recollection I had not remembered Jake closing the door but there it stood closed and locked, Jake inserted the key and opened the door, gesturing us in, I entered and as my eyes adjusted to the dim light given off by the red bulbs, I saw Robert laid back in a sling, his pink pucker winking and inviting me forward, I accepted the invitation and rushed forward the several feet between us, I leaned in and passionately kissed my Boyfriend my cock sliding into his crack, the head bumping into a perfectly prepped pucker. As we kissed intently my cock head pushed into and entered Robert, his outer ring pulsing around my shaft, I pushed further in and my balls were soon bouncing off his tailbone. I pumped into him as we kissed, I stood back up and Jake had moved behind me, several twinks, frat boys and daddies had entered into the fray and soon a couple guys were offering us their dripping dick for our sucking pleasure. I opened my eyes as one slid his cock my directions bumping my lips with the head, it already had a drop of precum glistening on the tip, I snaked out my tongue and took it into my mouth, it was bitter and tasted slightly off but soon he had almost the whole length in my mouth and partly down my throat. As I began sucking on the guy, I noticed he had a similar scorpion tattoo as Shayne but on his right hip, he started fucking my face as I fucked into Robert, Jake had entered my hole and was stroking my prostate with his engorged tool. I was fucking and getting fucked, while I was sucking on this mid-twenty stud. I stood up and saw that Robert had been sucking on a twink I recognized from school, Alex my quarterback on my football team was feeding my boyfriend his manhood. The stud with whom I had been face fucked moved behind Alex and slid his cock into my friend, I continued pumping into Robert as Jake pumped into me. Shayne and James were on the bed getting fucked by a couple daddy bears and were blowing some twinks who were getting fucked by some college jocks, it was a sight to behold as I lost my first load deep in Robert’s gut. Squeezing my hole around Jakes cock sent him into orgasmic bliss as he unloaded in me, but kept on pounding my hole as I churned my spooge around in Robby. I noticed the tattooed guy begin to grunt as his orgasm began pumping Alex with seed, a new guy falling in behind to slid up into Alex as he continued to feed Robby his cock, Mark moved in and slapped him on the opposite side of his face. We continued fucking sucking, rimming and basically trading partners for about an hour before I pulled out of Robby, Jake had been replaced by the tattoo guy who had whispered his name was Al in my ear, before breeding my hole and another daddy type before I pulled Robby up out of the sling only to be replaced by James who was promptly impaled by a twink the sort of look familiar from school I think but I wasn’t certain. Robby and I grabbed Alex and Mark and I whispered to Jake we were going to wander and see what kind of trouble we could get into. Jake nodded as he bred some Muscle jock then said the fun here was about to die down and he would look for us around the club. Cum streamed down Alex, Mark Robby and my legs as we strolled out into the hallway and down the various corridors, we found ourselves in the maze and soon at it’s center. I saw the multiple slings, fuck benches and mattresses, then saw the tiled wet area. This was certainly designed for one thing, dirty play, Robby and I had discussed it during our various sex chats and here it was. The back wall had several hand held shower nozzles and a couple urinals with rubber hoses dangling below them, and a claw foot tub in the center of the area, along with several fiberglass benches at various levels. I walked Robby over to one of the benches and took a seat next to him, we began making out when a couple muscle studs came over and offered up their cocks, we accepted the phalluses and soon were deep throating the pair, the action attracting a crowd, suddenly the one I was sucking pulled out to the head of his cock and a warm fluid began spreading across my tongue, Robby pulled off the one he was sucking and was sprayed with a golden shower from the jock, I gulped down a mouthful and let the other stud begin to wet down my body with his stream of urine. More guys soon came to join in the pissing party and we were drenched in urine and soon cum as many began jerking off on us, Mark and Alex joined in and soon the four of us were taking turns getting rained and spooge on, I drifted over to the tub and soon was bathing in urine as a dozen guys relieved themselves all over my twink body. One guy offered his hand and led me to one of the fuck benches and I was soon filled with his hard pole deep in my ass, Robby had been led to another of the fuck benches which faced me and I watched as a line of men and twinks stepped up to fill his boypussy with spunk, mine being filled almost as often. Mark stepped up to me and slid in his anaconda and slowly fucked my ass, after which he pulled me up and led me over to Robby and Alex, we exited the chamber and wandered beck towards the lobby area which had vending machines and televisions to watch local events. We lounged for awhile and Mark bought us some energy drinks, as we sipped them a cute eighteen year old approached us and greeted Mark and Robby, “hey there are we having a good time” wink, the blonde twink introduced himself as Nico and explained that he worked the front counter and did maintenance around the club to me, Mark and Robby already knew him as did I, since I recognized him as a guy on the cheer squad at my school, I had always thought he might be gay but I wasn’t sure, as he could probably beat any of the linebackers on my team in a fight if it came down to it, his lithe and slender body was rippled in muscle. He had a huge cock to go with his cockiness and he sauntered over and tweaked my nipple, as I ran a hand up under his towel and fingered his hole, it was wet and slightly gaped, as I pulled my hand back and licked my finger I tasted the cum and smiled “want to make it back to your dads room” he quipped at me and I acknowledged his intent We walked casually back to Dads room, passing by several rooms of hot guys lounging, offering and playing with themselves. I stopped at one where the twink was fingering his hole, I stepped in and slid my cock into his opening, Nico, Alex, Robby and Mark watching on, his hole was warm and slightly sloppy, I motioned for Nico to slide in under him as I lowered the boys hole on Nico’s cock I slid mine in alongside and we fucked the twink together Mark coming up behind me to fuck me again in my sloppy hole. Being fucked while double penetrating the twink sent me over the edge and I soon was depositing my sperm in his hole. I pulled out and the cream leaked out onto Nico’s cock and balls which the twink then turned around and licked up. The twink was in my homeroom at school and I recognized him. This was going to be a interesting term. The four of us proceeded to my dad’s room where he was being service by his sons while a couple of Jocks service a couple of twinks. Nico climbed in the sling and Robby mounted him while offered up my cock to suck on. Mark Joined Shayne and James on the bed and took on a jock or two, soon we were all getting our orgasms and shooting cum in holes and across faces and bodies. The jocks and twinks left the room leaving Jake, James, Mark, Nico, Alex, Robert and myself. I got off the bed and closed the door and settled back with my Family and friends cooling down from the huge amount of sex we had all had. Jake checked his phone for the time and advised the guys that it was coming close to the end of their time here. I told him I wanted to hit the steam room before they went and my stepbrothers and friends got up and proceeded to the steam room, where we fucked and sucked our way through a dozen or so guys before becoming too over heated and hit the showers to clean off the sex and sweat, we had accumulated. We got back to dads’ room and found him with two of James’s friends having a good time. Mark offered to take me home and James and Shayne offered Alex and Nico a ride. We all checked out after returning to our lockers to dress. We got in Marks car, Robert and I, and he drove us home, James and Groupies following. It was around two thirty when James pulled into the driveway, and we all got out and headed inside. We stopped in the kitchen just long enough to load our arms with snacks and beverages and headed upstairs, Mark, Robert and I to my room and Nico, James, Alex, and Shayne to his. We once again stripped naked and crawled onto the bed, cuddling, and playing a little before falling into a deep sleep. I awoke the next morning with Robby’s hard cock pressed into my ass with Marks hardon staring me in the face and mine in Mark’s, Morning boys I quipped, and Robby’s cock slid into my well used hole, and I took Marks hard cock into mine as he did the same to me. We played for awhile then the bathroom door opened, and Nico and Alex joined us. Nico fucking Robby and I ended fucking Alex. We all blasted our morning loads losing our wood and we took turns showering and once again washing off the sex of the night before and morning. James and Shayne joined us in the shower, and I once again had Shayne’s cock buried in my hole ejaculating another load, James fucked Robby and Alex plowed Mark. When we were finished, we checked out Jakes room to find him with the to Jocks he had the night before, James informed us they were guys from his wrestling team. Jake got up and took them into the master bath and they also prepared for the day. Jake cooked us a hardy breakfast or should I say brunch and as we all sat and chattered, we consumed the delectable food. After Brunch everyone went their separate ways, I hugged Robby goodbye and kissed him passionately and Mark kissed and hugged his brothers and Robby, I hugged Alex and Nico as they Piled in James car and told them I’d see them on Monday at school. As everyone pulled out of the driveway Shayne and Jake hugged me and led me back inside. The evening went without incident and we all hit the hay at a reasonable hour, I had school in the morning and Shayne would be meeting up with his new coach and checking into a dorm room. The following morning I awoke early and threw my school clothes in my duffle bag, pulled on a jock and running shorts then sweatpants, a tank top and sweatshirt, grabbed a protein shake and headed to school. It was routine for me to get there two hours early for a workout and then shower and change in the locker room. This was the first day of my final semester before graduation and I was going to make the best of it. I did some cardio and some chest work, avoiding my lower body as it was still sore from the workout I had given it over the weekend. I was about two thirds through my workout when I heard a catcall, looking up there was Alex and Nico admiring my sweaty body. They asked to join in and even offered to spot me, which I gratefully accepted. We worked out for another thirty minutes of so when we all realized what time is was becoming we headed to the showers and washed up, today I had help soaping my body parts and ended up with a raging boner, “no time for that” Alex commented then “see you in fourth period AP History” as he finished dressing and headed out. Nico was a little more understanding, but still didn’t help me with my wood. I pulled on my boxers and slid into my tight jeans and polo grabbed my books and headed out with Nico, seemed we had First period together. First period was agony with Nico sitting just in front of me, I could still smell his musk and the memory of pounding his ass before he pounded mine was still very fresh. Luckily the teacher was a older woman which had no appeal to me and English was one of my favorite studies. School went on for several weeks, same routine Nico and Alex getting me all worked up in the weight room and showers and having to sit through lectures and assignments. On weekends we were getting together with Robby and Mark and fooling around with Shayne when mom wasn’t home. February was cold and my studies kept me busy, the occasional jerk off session or fuck buddy session made it interesting, but for the most part it was the same routine, I was coming down with the sniffles by the end of the month, I treated them with cold and flu remedies but shortly after the presidents day weekend I had to take a da off of school, Nico and Alex brough me my homework, and I kept up with my studies. The following weekend Shayne came into my room with a oral test kit and had me swab my gums, he placed the swab in some solution and then distracted me for twenty minutes by tickling me and kissing me. He reached over when his alarm went off looked at the test “welcome to the brotherhood Bro” he said smiling. I had read enough stories on Breeding zone to realize what he meant and just stared at him in disbelief. I hugged him and he pulled down my shorts and began giving me a blowjob. I had a date with Robby that night and the one thing I wanted to do was fuck him with my dirty seed, we hadn’t discussed it lately but I knew he wanted the same test result “got any more of those test kits I asked Shayne, he shook his head and offered a second kit. I got ready for my date with Robby, I was to meet him at his house then we were going out to dinner and a movie. I drove over and parked, he met me at the door and I rushed him inside to his room, I broke out the kit, swabbed his gums per instructions the we fooled around for the twenty minutes it called for, just enough time to get him hard and spurting, I reached over and looked at the results “welcome to the Brotherhood love” we hugged and kissed he pulled up his pants and we went to dinner to celebrate our newfound status. While at dinner I asked if he had tested before our big post new Years get together and he indicated that he had and was negative going into the orgy. I was curious since I knew had been going to twink night every now and then, since we had discussed it. We ate then Robby asked “want to skip the movie? It’s twink night after all” After dinner we headed over to the Baths and checked in, both of us having membership cards, Nico took our ID’s and membership cards and slid two boxes across the counter for our wallets and valuables. He buzzed the door and as we entered, he grabbed two towels, and handed us our locker keys. “I’m off in Half an hour if you want to wait in the steam room for me” he whispers at us. We proceeded to our lockers, stripped down to our matching jock straps, and hung the towels around our shoulders, highlighting our gym bodies and our huge bulges. We walked around and eventually made it to the steam room, sitting on opposite sides of an alcove we teased the boys who would saunter by, a cute twenty something caught my eye, he looked lost like it was his first time, I stroked his chest, felt up his bulge, it immediately began filling out and I fingered his ass, it was tight but sweaty I fingered him more and then turned him around, buried my face in his hot ass and began rimming him, his hole loosened up quickly then I pulled my cock out of my jock and guide his hole to the tip, he sat back and the tip slid in with just my saliva and his sweat coating the passage, he grunted and his hole slid down even future down my pole he bounced a little and suddenly my pubes were scratching his crack and he was moaning very loudly. He tilted his head back and I kissed his neck then his lips. He hadn’t expected that, and his hole clenched around my shaft, it was too much and I pumped my seed into his hole. “Enjoy my dirty load stud” he pulled off me and I spun him around and kissed him deeply “catch you around, I hope” I smiled at him, and he was gone. In the time it took to breed the guy Robbie had a daddy in his lap doing the give it to me dance and he was soon blowing a load into the bear. We enjoyed our time celebrating our new status and I had come across my hot steam room fuck again in the pit, and then the sling as he was taking all cummers. We left sated and I dropped Robby off at his house before returning home myself. My routine continued till mid-March when Alex called me up saying he had the flu and needed me to pick up his homework for him. I agreed and showed up on a Wednesday after school, with what he had missed the previous days, he had answered the door in just his boxers and he looked like death warmed over. He was running a fever and was achy all over, he looked dehydrated and I took him back up to his room, putting him in bed he shivered and asked if I could help him out, pulling down the front of his boxers he was rock hard, I stroked his dick and then it hit me “you have the Flu “ I said to him “I know, but I just so horny” “No, I mean you have the fuck flu, I might just be your Poz brother” he looked at me then peeled down his boxers “Fuck me bro, give me your toxic seed” I climbed up on his bed and opened my fly, pushing my jock strap down I placed my hardening cock head at his entrance then pushed in with just his ass sweat to lubricate him, he grimmest and yelled out in pain as my shaft sunk into his hole in one swift move. He was tight but I knew he could take me, he already had several times since we first fucked that Saturday after New year’s. I pounded into him and soon his hole loosened up and my precum was lubricating his guts he began to moan in pleasure as I pumped a large load of toxic spunk into him and his sick bed. I brought him his homework again on Friday and loaded him up with more spunk, by Monday he was feeling better and had returned to school. In April Nico pulled me aside and asked if I knew my status, I wasn’t going to lye to what had become a good friend and he hugged me, “I thought it was just me, I tested mid-February and it was positive, I felt so slutty, and I’ve wanted to talk to you so many times but I thought you’d think less of me” I looked around and hugged him, then with a devilish gleam in my eye asked “ you ready for more Poz loads.

Two days ago, I notice my back passenger side tire needed some air after I clock out of work. It was 12:50 in the morning. I head to the gas station to get air for the tire. There was another person using the air pump station. When the driver left I notify the clerk to turn on. I didn’t realize the first station has a button to turn on. But I went back to notify the clerk attendant inside to turn on. The customer inside talking to the clerk went out to help me. He was an “straight” tall guy type of guy. He stood about 5’10” tall, stocky muscle build. Clean cut Puerto Rican man. I was secretly finding him attractive. He talked to me while helping check the tire. Out of nowhere he asked me if I was into guys. I was caught off guard. I said yes to him. He said to me: “You think you wanna fool around? That should be plenty of air for the tire. Let just drive over the other end of the block. No one can’t see us. It late night anyways” I replied “Sure, would love to…” I followed him and parked next to him. He got into my car. Unzipped and he let me sucked. I was in pure heaven. His cock was big and thick. I sucked him eagerly. He moaned a lot. I went down to the base of his cock. His cock smelled musky. I moaned back. To show I was enjoying him. He blurted out “You like my dick? You never had anyone big like mine?” I cooed with a yes. I really enjoyed his cock. I kept deep throating him. He was enjoying it. He said he wanted to fuck me. He ordered me to take off my pants. He spit on my hole and slid with one stroke. I yelped in pain. But I was enjoying his cock. I panted so much. I told him he making me feel in heat. He fucked me mercifully doggie style. Slapping my ass and grabbing my cheeks. Gripping my hips firmly. I kept moaning. I bucked back into his thrust each moment. I clench on his cock to let him know I wanted him badly. He gripped my hair and my neck and cum inside me loud. He slid out and we both notice my car was all fogged up. We both laugh. We didn’t notice it was 2:50 AM in the morning. I cleaned out the windows. Holding in his cum as I cleaned the windows. He was satisfied and wanted more next time. We exchanged numbers and parted our way to home. That was the first time I have ever had a man that I never met talked to me out bluntly of my sexuality. And wanted some action. 😄

— Chris (dad) flashback I had always been a good Christian man, I waited till marriage, treated my son and wife well and made sure to go to church every day. That’s where I met Andrew. Andrew was a huge man, probably around 6’2 with a well muscled body, not of a body builder but more like someone who had done a lot of physical labor. He had his ears pierced and what looked like the holes for septum and lip piercings as well. He had tattoos on his hands and neck which lead me to assume that he had them all over his body. His type weren’t unheard of at the church, convicts who had found the lord in prison or the like. I was not given any details, but my priest asked me to help him adjust to the church and community. We first met over lunch where he told me that he was from New York. At some point we got onto the topic of his muscles. He offered to show me the ropes at the gym because I was on the scrawny side. When I saw him at the gym the next morning I was struck. He was wearing only a tight white tank top and running shorts. His body was covered in hair and tattoos and I could see his huge bulge. “Hey there chris you alright buddy” he asked “Yeah fine” I said shaking myself “Well let’s get to work then” he said slapping my ass as we walked inside the gym. Two hours later I was exhausted. “Wow I didn’t know I could be so tired” I said “Yeah I like to get nice and sore before work every morning” Andrew responded We were making our way over to the locker room when I saw that they were closed with an out of order sign. “Damn guess I’m gonna have to shower at home” Andrew said “Shit I don’t have time to go home and shower before work” I added “You’re welcome to come shower at mine Chris” Andrew responded “That would be great” As I walked into Andrew’s apartment I realized it was a lot nicer than I thought. I guess I had assumed he would live somewhere trashy but his apartment looked newly made and decorated. “Fuck” Andrew groaned taking off his sweaty tank top. “ I’ve only got one shower so I hope you don’t mind doubling up, don’t worry it’s plenty big” “Oh ok” I said as he pulled off his shorts revealing an overfull dirty jockstrap. “I’m gonna grab some water you go get it started, it’s just through the bedroom” Andrew said as he walked to the fridge I went through his bedroom into the bathroom and was surprised to find a full walk in shower with several shower heads and attachments. I nervously striped as I thought about all the other times I’d been naked with other guys. It had never phased me before, why now. After I pulled the last of my clothes off I was reminded why I was nervous as Andrew came into the bathroom. I realized that both of his nipples were pierced with large thick crescents. He smirked at me as he pulled off his jockstrap revealing a 7 inch flaccid cock with a giant piercing. It was resting on equally huge balls that swung as he walked. “You like what you see Chris” Andrew said as he grabbed my rock hard 7 inch cock “ha look you hard is the same as me soft, though I’m still thicker” “Um no im not gay” I stuttered out “Sure you aren’t” Andrew said as he bent down invading my mouth with his tongue. At the same time he slid one of his fingers into my asshole. I had never felt like this and began moaning into Andrew’s mouth as he pulled away. “Get in the shower now whore” he ordered to which I mindlessly followed “Bend over” he said as he pushed me down so my head was against the wall of the shower. “Now I’m going to clean you out, hold until I tell you to let go” Andrew said as he inserted something I couldn’t see into my hole. I felt a sudden pressure and fullness as my stomach began to fill. Andrew pulled the nozzle out of me and began pushing on my hairy gut. As he pushed I couldn’t help myself and let go releasing all the water. “I didn’t say let go faggot!” He screamed as he grabbed my balls and squeezed hard. I was hit with a shocking pain but all I could do was moan. “ oh do you like that slut” Andrew said as he guided me out of the shower. Once we were out he pushed me to my knees where I was met face to face with his massive cock. It had grown to about 9 inches and still was only semi hard. “I think you know what to do," he said as his piercing touched my lips.

Yeah it’s something I have newly gotten into. There’s a gay nude beach in Seattle (not the one that’s on the lake and has lots of women and is geared towards non-sexual nude expression, this one is on the saltwater and is pretty much only men and is cruisy as fuck). Went for the first time last summer and put my dick in some really talented asses. Bred this super cute otter in the woods. I’m not going to post this location online because I don’t want it getting ruined by the morality police or the real police. But it’s an active cruising spot on sniffies and a great place to get ass / cock in the summer. You can DM me if you want to know the location.

Not Entirely My Story. I took a great story and took it the next level with strong POZ overtones. If this is not allowed in this FORUM. Please allow me to delete and carry on. Girlfriend's Brother Pozzes ME While She Is At Work. I had gone over to my girlfriend's house and we were to go to see an afternoon movie and then to dinner. Amy's brother Andy informed me that she was called into work until 4 because her manager was sick. Andy was just about ready to go swimming and he asked me if I'd like to join him. I started to decline as I didn't have a swimsuit and I told him so. He told me that had a few extra swimsuits and we went to his bedroom. All he had were Speedos and I was a little shy about wearing them. He finally talked me into it and while I chose the pair I wanted, and in a flash he was already changing, unashamed, as he undressed before me. He had a great body and I was a little taken aback by the fact that I had noticed such a thing. What really intrigued me was a biohazard tattoo he had right above his long thick cock. Amy had always said he was the black sheep of the family and they always spoke in hushed tones about whenever a non-family member was in earshot. I had no clue what it was other than he was more likely gay, but that did not bother me…all that much. I undressed slowly, hoping he would go on out without me and let me change in private, but he did not. I turned away from him slightly, but I could feel his gay eyes up my straight ass as I stood there naked. I turned briefly to snatch the Speedos from his bed, and I'm sure he got a look at my cock. Strangely, I stiffened at the thought. After dressing, we went to the pool and swam and tanned for about 2 hours. We wrestled a little in the pool and I felt his hand graze my package a few times. Each time letting it linger there a bit longer than the time before. I stiffened, again. "Amy should be home in about another hour," he said. "What do you want to do to kill time?" I told him I didn't know, but I definitely wanted to change first. "Do you need to shower or do you just want to dry off?" he asked. I told him I'd like a shower. This gave me an excuse to change in the bathroom, and maybe take care of this half a boner I had going on. When I got inside I realized I had a slight problem. I had tied the string in the Speedos in a knot, and I could not get it out. I told Andy and he happily agreed to help get the knot out. On his knees, his hands working only inches from my cock, he got the knot out in about 5 minutes. But not without incident, though. His hands occasionally brushed my cock and it reacted to his gentle touching, even if it was by another guy. He saw and felt my hardening cock and said, "Is it wanting Amy?" I just smiled, embarrassed. He got to his feet and asked for the Speedos, as he was headed for the laundry room. "Can I bring them after I take my shower?" I asked. He said, "I don't want to make two trips." I hesitated, and he asked, "Embarrassed by your body? Don't be." He took his Speedos off to show me that there was nothing to i exposing his biohazard tat again. "Well?" I took them off and handed them to him. "Thanks," he said, then kissed me. As he held me I felt his cock stiffen against mine. His cock was getting hard and so was mine. "Does Amy give head? I do," he said, and he stroked my cock my rock hard cock. He stopped, turned, and went to his bedroom. "Joining me?" he asked. I don't know why I did it, but I followed him. I followed him down the hall to Amy’s room. When I walked into the room where I had fucked his sister countless times. He was lying on her bed and I laid down next to him with his hard 8 inch cock pointing straight up. He rolled over and kissed me, then his lips began kissing my neck, chest, nipples, stomach, and then found my crotch. His right hand was between my legs playing with my ass as he licked my balls and cock. I thought I was going to cum before he started sucking me off. Pre-cum appeared at the head of my cock and he carefully licked it off. Then he started to take me down, little by little, until he'd swallowed it all. His sister did give head, but not like this. He was great and the apprehension I had was now gone. I could feel the orgasm coming, my cock ready to explode. His fingers slowly explored my hole with one and two fingers. He knew I was about to cum, too, and he removed his mouth and stroked my cock as my wad shot all over my stomach. I thought he was like his sister, a non-swallower, but he licked all my cum off my body while he slipped a second finger into my ass. Andy laid next to me, and I told him that he gave great head. He held my hand, then led it to his crotch. It felt odd having someone else's cock in my hand. "I want to get a nut, too," he said. "Are you going to blow me or am I going to have to fuck you in the ass?" I decided to go down on him, and I did it directly. No wasting time licking his balls or cock. I didn't really know what I was doing or if it was correct, but Andy was moaning, so I kept it up. He was doing most of the work, his hand on the back of my head, his hips thrusting, much like what I did to his sister. Suddenly, he pulled his cock from my mouth and shot his wad all over my face. He kissed me and licked it off. He got up and got a jar of Vaseline from his dresser. "I thought I made it clear I didn't want to be fucked," I told him. "No," he said. "I want you to fuck me," and he lubed up my cock. He was on all fours, waiting for me to enter him. Even with the lubricant, his ass was tighter than Amy's pussy. It felt so good. It was odd. I could feel my balls occasionally slapping his balls as I pumped, and when I came, I came inside him. "That was great," he said. "Getting fucked is better than fucking because of the stimulating of the prostate. Plus, I got a gift for you!" I looked at him quizzically, but he just ignored me and pushed me on my back. He lifted my legs, fingered and ate my ass. He had me moaning in seconds. I felt myself get close to cumming. He leaned in and kissed me with tongue exploring my mouth. He said that was hot as he leaned down and took my cock into his mouth and sucked me and cleaned me off. I was still horned up when he pushed a finger into my ass. I jumped at the invasion, but it quickly felt good. He looked me in the eye. “We have an hour. I want to give you my gift” he said meekly as he pushed a 2nd finger into my hole. I gasped and begged him for his seed. In a flash, he had his cock lightly lubed and as he slowly withdrew his fingers he pushed his thick cock into me. I felt so full, but it felt so good. I soon felt his trimmed pubes against my balls. He had all of his 8 inch cock in me. He pistoned his meaty cock deep into my ass. I begged for his seed. “Ask for my gift” he insisted. I wondered what he meant, but I begged him for his present. “I want your gift,” I exclaimed as he slapped my ass hard. He jackhammered his raw cock in my ass. I was breathless. I held my legs up from behind my knees. I try to spread them as wide as possible to give him all the access he needed or wanted. “Give me the gift” thinking I was asking for his seed. He jackhammered my hole. I could feel myself wanting to pee. He was hitting the spot in my cunt that I had never felt before. He buried all 8 inches of his poz cock into my hole. He shouted out that he was pozzing my faggot hole. I came all over us. I never came hard in my life. I literally shot cum over my face hitting the headboard of the bed. We both laughed at my eruption. He laughed as he bred me. We were so entrenched in our love making that we did not hear the front door open and in the doorway was Amy with her fingers in her panties watching her brother breed me. I could feel his cock expand, pulse and shoot his tainted load into my virgin ass. I laid there breathless as Andy’s cock retreated from my soon to be pozzed hole. When Andy rolled off he saw his sister fingering herself. “I guess we pozzed another one huh sis” he quipped. I heard two things that made my eyes pop open in a flash. The fact Amy was watching us and he had just pozzed me. I tried to cover myself up, but I realized my clothes were in Andy’s room. I tried to rationalize what just happened and did Andy say “pozzed another one”. I asked him what he meant, and that is when Amy spoke up. “Yeah, we are both poz you see those notches in the bed post” I looked at the notched post there were at least 15 on her bedpost. She said, “there is one for every boy that Andy and I have pozzed in the last 2 years. Ever since, we had a 3sum with our poz daddy and he pozzed us both.” “our goal from that day on has been to poz as many straight acting fag boys like you” she said matter of factly. I slumped my head knowing she was right. I had been secretly craving cock for a while. I just needed a push out the door. I reached over touching Andy’s face and thanked him for his gift. I climbed back on the bed on all fours and asked him to fuck me doggy to make sure it took. Amy grabbed her dildo and sat in her chair and watched her brother breed her soon-to-be ex-boyfriend with another poz load. Wouldn't you know it, he was right. That statement got me curious and I let him fuck me. Afterwards, we showered together, toweled each other off, and then kissed. He grabbed my cock and whispered, "I'll let you know when she works again," and I enjoyed my relationship with him as much as with Amy. Do you think I should do a part two? Let me know what you think. Feedback is greatly appreciated so is hot chat. Joey I am a bareback slut who is surprised he is not poz yet

I'm travelling in Vietnam and on my first night in Ho Chi Minh City a handsome local guy came to my hotel and fucked a load deep inside me. we didn't talk at all, just spit on his dick and he pushed it in. Hoping to get some more during my trip🤤

Chet was your average middle-aged gay man. He lived near a major city, had a good job, dressed well, and seemed very average. There was one thing most people didn’t know about Chet, and that was his desire for pnp play that involved fisting. He had a playroom behind a locked door in his basement and only invited a few friends over for play. He also had an affinity for dildos and had amassed quite a collection. Over the years, he had gotten everything from small butt plugs and life-sized cock dildos, but then he started going for the larger items. One item that he had and had never been able to take was his large Crackstuffers Bulb dildo. It’s almost 11” long and over 4” around. One Friday night, Chet invited his friend Doug over for a pnp and fisting session. Chet trusted Doug to keep quiet about their activities. Doug came over around 6:30 with a bottle of wine, looking more like a dinner guest than a guy who was about to have a fist shoved up his ass. When Chet answered the door, he was clothed in khakis and a polo shirt, but Doug knew there would be different clothing once they started. Both guys liked leather and had a good selection of jocks, harnesses, chaps, hats, and more. They’d change into them before entering the playroom. Chet led the way downstairs, bringing along some beverages for them to drink while partying. There was a little changing room outside the playroom, also kept locked, which Chet opened now. This is where the leather was stored. Chet went in first and changed. From there, he could enter the playroom directly. Then Doug went in to change into leathers. The first time each guy would see what the other was wearing was in the playroom. This was all part of their ritual. Chet had selected a black leather jock and vest. He had gauntlets on his upper arms, too. At 52, he had a well-toned body covered in a light dusting of hair. Doug, 48, selected black leather chaps and a harness. He had a leather ball cap on his head, too. They sized each other up and stated their appreciation of the outfit that the other had chosen. Chet’s jock strap was new, which Doug noted. Now, it was time to get spun. They indulged in all ways, but tonight would be a slam night. This meant that Doug would spend the night playing through most of it. They sat on the leather sofa in the playroom, the various leathers making random sounds as they rubbed up against each other. Chet had already prepared the slams. Each got a .3. They were both able to self admin, so it was a matter of raising a vein, swabbing it, inserting the point, getting the flash, and then go flying. Once they were rushing, Chet went to the sling. He got in, adjusted the stirrups, and laid back for Doug to enjoy him. Of course, Chet would enjoy this, too. Doug started out by lubing Chet’s hole. They would freeze small balls of Crisco for this purpose. Chet moaned and shivered as each icy ball was delivered to his ass. They would melt quickly, providing an excellent surface for fisting. Next, he applied a generous amount of XLube to Chet’s ass and hole and more to his own hands. These two played together so often that they knew each other’s likes, dislikes, and capabilities. In this case, Doug knew that Chet liked an early insertion. So, after a short time massaging his hole and sticking several fingers in, Doug shoved his hand into Chet’s ass. Chet looked ecstatic to take the fist, and Doug was happy to give it. Once he was in, Doug started to really work Chet’s ass. He would pull back so that his knuckles were stretching Chet’s opening and would also dive deep to get to the further parts of Chet’s body. Chet and Doug worked well together, each intuitively knowing what would make the other feel good. Chet would occasionally sniff some poppers, which caused his ass to open even more than usual. After pleasing Chet’s hole, it was Doug’s turn in the sling. He got in and got settled and then Chet approached. While Chet likes a quick initial insertion, Doug likes it to take some time. Chet added frozen Crisco to Doug’s hole and spread some lube around but started out inserting only one finger. He would work it around Doug’s hole and shove it in and out. Eventually, he added a second finger and repeated the process. Before adding another finger, he would get a nod from Doug that he was ready to increase, Eventually, all four fingers and a thumb were added. Doug was enjoying the stretch as this grouping worked its way into his hole. Doug always likes a snort of poppers before the first insert, so Chet waited while he did this. Then, Chet waited a moment more to let the poppers take effect before plunging into Doug’s ass. The look of bliss on Doug’s face said it all. This was a man who was born to be fisted. Chet worked his way deeper into Doug’s ass. He knew that, towards the back, there was a large space that could accommodate his hand. The fact that it drove Doug crazy, too, was an added bonus. Again, Doug liked poppers before having this area violated. Chet let him sniff, then a slight delay before his searching fingers found what they wanted. When Chet entered the area, Doug let out a groan and flexed his ass to allow better access. They played this way for a while and then decided to take a break. They had some drinks and sat on the sofa chatting. They’d occasionally tweak a nipple, stroke a cock, or finger a hole (either their own or the other’s), but this was not sexual. Finally, Chet decided he wanted to be fisted again. He got in the sling, and lube was applied anew. Since they had been fisting earlier, the insertion was easier. Doug’s hand pretty much slid into Chet’s ass. Also, due to the earlier fisting activities, they were more daring now. This was when they introduced twists and turns, flexes and extensions of fingers. Chet’s hole was opening nicely and gaining a good gape. Chet asked to be fucked by one of his dildos. He had his favorites, and Doug picked out a good “starter toy” for his friend. He lubed it up and inserted it easily into Chet’s hole. This toy was long but not very thick, so it was able to get deep into his ass. There were also times that Chet rode the dildo, working it in and out as he swayed in the sling. The next dildo was thicker but not as long. It was a bit of a stretch, but it went in pretty easily. Doug knew that Chet viewed this toy as a transition item meant to bridge the gap between two other toys, so he didn’t work with it for very long. The next toy was the one that was Chet’s normal end. It was quite thick and long, with a smooth texture for easy entry and removal. Doug lubed it up well and teased Doug’s hole with it, inserting just the tip as he passed over his friend’s hole. Then, Chet was ready for it. Doug took aim, applied pressure, and, with the help of poppers, the toy slid into Chet’s ass. His look of triumph was exhilarating to see. Chet and Doug fucked around with that dildo for a considerable amount of time, really expanding Chet’s hole. Then, it was Doug’s turn in the sling again. No slow entry this time; instead, Chet slid in quickly and easily. Doug gasped, but it was clear that he liked the sensations. Chet went deep at first, knowing that Doug’s ass could accommodate him. Then, they moved on to some width play, with Chet stretching Doug’s hole with his knuckles and fingers. Now, it was Doug’s turn with the dildo. Chet selected a reasonably sized toy and lubed it up for insertion. Doug’s ass accepted the dildo easily, and he smiled as it went through his body. Chet slid the dildo back and forth inside Doug’s ass, delivering sweet sensations to his friend. The next dildo for Doug was a large one. Chet lubed it up and placed it against his chest. Doug took a few hits of poppers and then started to push on the toy to get it to go into his ass. They both had to stop a few times, but it did pop into place. This toy has a bulbous head which tapers down to a more reasonable size. Once it was in, Doug liked to ride it. Chet would hold the dildo, and Doug would take some poppers and then start to move back and forth on the toy. It was a joy to see, and he enjoyed it very much. Time for another break. This time, in addition to some beverages, they packed a pipe and smoked some. While the rush is not as intense or as rapid, they both appreciated the ability to control intake with smoking. After the break, it was back to the sling for Chet. This was mostly a repeat of the earlier session. Fisting, followed by the same toys. Things were more intense since they were more opened up (and spun), but it was a mostly similar session. Chet got out of the sling, and Doug got in. Again, they did an amped up repeat of the earlier performance. But, in the end, Doug asked for another toy. Neither of these guys had ever taken this one when they played together. It was long and very thick and would definitely be a stretch to take. Chet got the toy and lubed it up. Before starting the insertion, he asked Doug if he was sure, Doug said yes, and expressed that he didn’t need to take it. He’d be OK with just getting some of it in his ass. So, Chet started pushing the dildo into Doug’s ass. He’d get a little bit more in, then take a break. A little bit more, and another break. Doug did poppers occasionally to help open his ass for the toy. Try though they might, they could not get the whole toy in Doug’s ass. They took another break for drinks and more smoke. The breaks allowed them both to relax and cool off from the earlier sessions, but they were also an important part of their friendship. Chet got in the sling. The performance was mostly a repeat of earlier, ending with the big dildo. However, when Doug pulled it out, he asked if Chet wanted to try the toy that he had not succeeded in getting into his hole. Chet was reluctant, but, as Doug had said, you could always stop if things got too intense. So, Chet agreed to try it. Doug lubed it up, and they followed a similar pattern to what they did with Doug. Insert, pause, insert again. At one point, Chet reached back and felt that there was only about a quarter of the toy left to go; Doug had gotten a little over half of it in him. Doug told Chet to do a big hit of poppers. He did, and then Doug pushed on the dildo. It popped into Chet’s hole completely, with no need for breaks. Chet had to reach down to verify that for himself, and he was amused that he had taken the whole thing. What goes in must come out, so Doug worked to release the toy from Chet’s ass. There was some suction on it, but he was able to remove it slowly. He knew that the sensations during removal are very similar to the sensations at insertion, so he knew that Chet was down for a wild ride. Then, Chet got out, and Doug got in. Fisting, dildos, but he said no to the biggest toy, letting his friend bask in his success. The two played some more, showered, changed, and went upstairs. Doug stayed the night. When he got home to his husband the next day, he said, “You’re not going to believe what Chet took last night!” “What?” said his husband. “The Crackstuffers Bulb,” said Doug. “Fuck, that really is one of our favorite toys, isn’t it? It feels so good going in and coming out”.

I fucked a coworker thru a gloryhole...didn't know it was him until we finished the deed and started to leave..he walked out of his booth and we made eye contact. He freaked out and left quickly. He is a super religious guy with a wife and kids....lol

I can’t comprehend why would someone want to get poz, or not seek treatment. Treatment is expensive, especially without insurance.Without treatment-your body is slowly crumbling for death! People look at you differently. You’re not trustworthy. The stigma is real. I have tried in the past to seek WHO pozzed me. When all guys I have met in the past said they are clean. It left with scars and broken unrepairable friendships. If you wanted to change jobs, professions. It be challenging like me. I can’t stand my job. At all. I want to stay full time in real estate. It hard since I will be on my own to pay for my own health insurance for self employment. Making that transition is hard and putting a strain on me BIG time.

in context: for a shot in a dr office, i was surprised how much it hurt for something having to do w m2m sex: easy peasy for annoyance: the 5 min of hurt was wayyyy better than the previous week+ of joint pain when i was infected long story short, my advice: drop your pants, bend over and take it like a man: just like you probably did when you got infected 😜

I'll mention something here that has been covered elsewhere: hotels in many areas are becoming less friendly towards this sort of thing. Of course, at the low end of the lodging spectrum, older motel-type buildings that have external walkways and doors opening to the outside present the least problem, but those are (increasingly) getting torn down; if a newer hotel replaces it, it's essentially always interior corridors only and all access is through the lobby or with a key card for other doors. And "guests of guests" who arrive and then don't head immediately for the guest's room may get scrutinized more closely. So while it's smart and understandable to wait to give out the room number until the person is "on site", if there's any delay in reaching the paying guest, the other "guest" may get asked to leave, especially if they can't give the full name of the person they're visiting. And in the more upscale places in tourist-heavy areas, you may find that guests can't even use the elevators without a key card. So these are things to keep in mind when planning where to host.

If California has high gas prices because of high gas taxes, that has zero to do with who is the president. They were that high under Trump, they were that high under both Bushes. So again, blaming a Democratic president for the choices of a state government, elected by a state's representatives, is - well, let's say "interesting," to avoid using words like "foolish" or "stupid" or "ignorant". Oil prices, too, as noted, aren't set by the president and are only very lightly influenced at the margins by presidential decisions. Ask any oil company executive. You're free to love crude oil prices being high, or low, or whatever; but if you give blame or credit to a president, that's (again) "interesting". You cite federal law prohibiting discrimination. Perhaps you're unaware that, in fact, federal law on workplace discrimination does NOT specifically include "sexual orientation" as a protected class - meaning that an employer could say "I found out you were a faggot - you're fired" and federal law could do *nothing* about that, for decades. Only a few years ago did the Supreme Court finally decide that "discrimination on the basis of sex" did, in fact, include discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation - a decision that Republicans in general and the right wing in particular has been screaming about ever since. The right fought against that interpretation (and won those fights) from the time the Civil Rights Act was passed, in 1964, until the Supreme Court finally included LGBT people under its coverage in 2020. So for fifty-six years the Republicans fought specifically to exclude you from that "discrimination" protection you laud today. They're still opposed to it. And yet you seem to think they're on your side. "Interesting."

Always open for bareback! No questions asked. No load refused.

Yesterday was simultaneously one of those days that makes you question why you try to hook up with random strangers, and rekindles your faith in the hookup culture. It was a lazy Sunday morning when I got a message on Grindr from a bbc top who lived about 30 minutes from me. We chatted for a while. He was into topping fat asses and only did it raw. And what's more, he had two friends who were coming over to smoke some 420, and they were all looking for an ass to use. Sounds too good to be true, right? Well, it was. Normally I can smell the bs a mile away, but this time I got duped. I cleaned out and made the drive. He stayed in communication with me until I messaged him to say I was turning onto his street, then he went offline. To make matters worse, once I had parked another bbc top messaged me, saying he lived in a different building in the same apartment complex, and stupidly I went in and all the way up to the floor he told me to go to. I should have picked up on the fact that he didn't tell me his apartment number, but in my horned up state I didn't. So yeah, I got played. Twice. I'm sure he was watching from his window and laughing at the dumb white guy. Fuck him. My drive to the town where he lived takes me through a particularly busy interchange with another highway, and on the way home the exit ramp was a fucking mess, so I decided to stay on the road I was on and take the back way home. That back way takes me past an adult bookstore with a backroom that's all booths (no public space) - but a LOT of the booths have glory holes. I was still pissed and thought about driving past, but found myself steering into the parking lot nonetheless. The parking lot was pretty empty but what the hell. I went in, paid my entrance fee, and soon found myself in a glory hole booth with a loud video playing to announce my presence. I had been in there less than a minute when I heard the door to the other booth close, and soon a cock made its way through the hole. I huffed my brown bottle, got on my knees and took it into my mouth. It hardened quickly into a nice 6-incher, and I was just getting into sucking on it when it pulled back. "Come over," said a voice. I complied, and found myself on my knees in front of a big, beefy redhead. He grabbed my head and fucked my mouth, maintaining a steady rhythm until I felt his cock stiffen even further. His pace quickened, and before long he was spewing a big load on my tongue. I swallowed greedily. My first 'customer' satisfied, I went back to the other booth while he zipped up. No sooner had he left than I heard the door close again. I got on my knees and presented my open mouth at the hole in the wall, and soon another cock was sliding across my lips. Like the first, it pulled back once it got hard, and this time its owner left the booth and entered mine. He was a Hispanic guy, about my age, average hung. It only took a few minutes of working his shaft and head with my lips and tongue before I was rewarded with my second load of the day. Once he dressed and left, I sat down and huffed on my brown bottle a little while I watched the video. Then my booth door opened, and an older guy came in. Once again I got down on my knees. His cock was about 5 inches but it was THICK. I greedily licked and slurped on it, tonguing his balls while I had his entire length in my mouth. He placed a hand behind my head as he tweaked his nipples with the other. In no time, I was swallowing my third load of the day. Things got quiet after that, and I spent a little time sitting in the booth waiting to see if anyone else came in. I was just about to leave when the other booth door closed again. I waited, and before long another cock appeared at the glory hole. It was small and uncut with a lot of foreskin. Nevertheless, I got on my knees and got to work. And WOW am I glad I did! The moment I took that cock into my mouth it began to grow. And grow. And grow. Soon it was a thick 8 inches and it was all I could do to work it down my throat. The guy on the other side of the wall grunted in pleasure several times as I licked and sucked and tongued his shaft and head. Then he said the magic words I've never heard at a glory hole before. "Give me that ass." While I've been fucked in bookstore booths several times, I had never ridden a completely anonymous cock through a glory hole before, so I was extra glad that I had stuck a small tube of lube in my pocket in case I needed it for the guy who stood me up. Plus, I was already cleaned out! I grabbed the tube from my pocket and smeared some on his shaft, then stood and dropped my pants. I rubbed some lube on my hole, dipping a couple of fingers inside as well, then backed onto that thick slab of meat. I had been hitting the brown bottle off and on for much of the day, so I was nice and relaxed and he slid into my ass with ease. I took as much as I could until my cheeks were pressed into the wall. "Fuck yeah," I heard him sigh as the walls of my hole stretched around his shaft. He began moving his hips back and forth, fucking my hole as I placed my hands on the opposite wall for support. He slid almost all the way out, then plunged back in balls-deep. That big cock felt amazing in my hole, and I squeezed my sphincter around his shaft. His belt buckle hit the wall with every thrust, making a loud clack sound each time. I found myself hoping it might attract others. At last I felt his cock swell, then pulse as he emptied his balls inside me. He gasped and moaned in pleasure as I squeezed extra-tight to milk every last drop from him. At last the pulses subsided and his cock slipped out of my hole. To show I'm a good slut I quickly spun around and took his cock in my mouth before he could retract it. I savored the flavor of ass mixed with cum as I cleaned him off. I waited as he straightened his appearance and stepped out the door, listening for others who might be waiting to come in. But alas, that was all. As my time ran out on the video monitor I pulled up my pants and headed for the door. As I got in my car, some of the last guy's kids slipped out of me, making a wet spot in my underwear that I sat in for the rest of the drive home. What began as a waste of my time had turned into my first glory hole breeding. All in all, a good day.

This depraved faggot received a message on SD from Jacob. Jacob is a masculine black male DOM, 6’4”, about 185, 8 inches cut. He was looking for a white full-on sub, faggot cumdump he could use, abuse, fuck hard and breed. This could be a one time thing, or ongoing. Ongoing could mean being whored out to others. I'm a gray haired, blue eyed, white male, 65 years old, sub, 5'11", 220lbs, average build, 4" cocklet, with large balls. He wanted me naked, with the exception of my metal chastity cage with urethral insert, with a ready body, mouth and cleaned out & lubed ass-cunt. We discussed what might or might not happen in our "session." We made arrangements to meet up at his place during the day for a session. I arrived as he was walking down the hallway of his condo building. We exchanged pleasantries. Once inside his condo I asked if I could use his restroom. He pointed to the room and said, “All yours.” I went in and stripped in the bathroom. Last quick check to make sure my cunt was ready for a pounding. I pulled my large butt-plug out of my ass and pushed more lube up inside. When I exited the bathroom he was in his bedroom naked on the bed, looking at his cell phone. He was a handsome man, muscled ripped gym body, and a huge thick flaccid Cock between his legs. He told me to come into his bedroom. He had me display my body to him. Front facing him, hands interlocked behind my head, feet wide apart. He took a picture of me with his phone. "I'm going to record this session" he stated. I have my phone here and several cameras in the room. "You want this today, right?" he asked me. "Yes, Sir" I replied. "You want me to use and abuse you for my amusement and pleasure, then fuck you raw, and breed you, right?" "Yes, Sir" "There will be no safe word, no stopping, once we start. And you are a consenting piece of shit, willing to endure whatever I dish out. Right?" "Yes, Sir" He got up and walked over to his dresser and picked up a heavy chain collar and leash. He put the chain collar around my neck and buckled and locked it into place. The cold metal made me shiver. He grabbed the leash and yanked on it hard. I felt the collar dig into my flesh around my neck. He snapped a picture. Then he picked up a pair of metal hand-cuffs, walked behind me and took each hand down from behind my head and locked them behind my lower back. Another picture was taken. He stepped in front of me again. Looking deep in my eyes. He grabbed a handful of my hair and started smacking my face with his open hand. Softly at first, but progressively harder. Palm side to my left cheek, backhand to my right cheek. My checks stung and reddened. "Open your mouth." I opened my mouth dutifully, and he spit into my mouth several times. Then stuck three of his long fingers in my mouth. "Suck my fingers fag." I started sucking his long fingers as he began to finger fuck my mouth for a few minutes. He pushed deeper and deeper making me gag and retch as he reached further back into my throat. " He reached over to the dresser again and came back with a ball gag. I could tell this wasn't new, but had obviously been used many times before with different subs. He shoved the ball gag into my mouth and locked it behind my head. The taste of the used ball gag was putred. "That will keep you somewhat quiet." Another picture was snapped on his phone. Then he reached down and pinched my nips. Easy at first but then harder and harder making me cringe and my knees buckle, moaning into the ballgag. He reached over to the dresser and picked up a crop / flogger. He started beating my nipples with the flogger. The pain was intense, making me scream into the ballgag. My nips throbbed when he stopped. Another picture capturing his handy work. He picked up a pair of nipple clamps from the dresser. They were the Japanese type with a heavy chain between them. He grabbed each reddened nipple and applied a clamp to them, and then dropped the heavy chain. The pain was well beyond intense. It felt like my nipples were being ripped from my body. Another snapped picture. He looked down at my caged cocklet and balls and laughed. "You should go to a Doctor and have these surgically removed fag. They are of no use to you. You don't need a cock to piss from, nor balls to produce sperm." He grabbed my balls in his muscled hand and squeezed them tightly and yanked down on them. The pain was immediate. I screamed into the ball gag and my knees buckled. He picked up the crop / flogger and began beating my balls harder and harder. My balls tried despirately to retreat but were trapped in the chastity cage with nowhere to go. My knees gave way and I crumbled to the ground. "Get up fag! Get your faggot ass up and present yourself to me!" In deep pain I forced myself up and presented my self appropriately. He then kicked me in the balls with his foot. The smack was thunderous and the result was me crumbling to the floor again. Jacob started kicking me, yelling at me to "Get the fuck up bitch." This was repeated so many times I lost count. He then instructed me to turn around. He smacked my ass checks playfully at first, but then with more force. He kept smacking each side with his bare hand, harder and harder. The clamps and heavy chain on my nipples started swaying with the beating I was taking. My balls were throbbing, and the movement didn't help abate the pain. He then had me bend over at the waist and rest my head and neck on the bed. He retrieved a big wooden paddle and renewed the beating of my ass cheeks. The pain was so intense. I screamed into the ballgag and bed. He stopped and started rubbing and kneeding my ass. A few pics were snapped. I felt his fingers probe into my ass-crack. Jacob released one of my hands from the hand-cuffs. He instructed me to present my asshole to him. Pulling my ass cheeks apart showing him my ass-cunt. Then he told me to put my fingers in my cunt with both hands and hold my hole open for him. He kept imploring me to open wider and wider. More pictures. Then he spit into my open ass-cunt several times. One was a big luggy he coughed up. He pushed his own fingers into my cunt and probed around. First two or three fingers, then four and his thumb. He started pushing with his entire hand trying to get it into my ass. Unfortunately, his hand was too large and my ass-cunt too small to take him fully. He then relocked my hands in the cuffs & removed the ball-gag. He then reclined on his bed with his legs open. He instructed me to suck his cock. I crawled to him across the bed and began sucking his cock. What a wonderfully magnificent BBC it was. He grew harder, thicker, and longer with my faggot mouth going up and down on his cock. Pics were taken of me servicing him with my mouth. He grabbed his ballsack and had me suck and service them as well. He grabbed my ears and head and started skull fucking my cunt mouth, going down farther and farther until I was gagging. He was really enjoying the use of my mouth. My tits were continuing to be abused by the clamps and chain. My ass cheeks were on fire. He turned over and presented his ass to me. I dutifully started tounguing his ass crack and ass-hole. Probing deep with my toungue. His taste was musky, like he hadn't showered all day, and had possibly taking a dump recently. He got up and grabbed the ball gag and put it back in place. Suddenly he wanted me on all fours, ass up head down. Without any prep – bam his entire BBC was in my hole balls deep, pounding my cunt open. The initial pain was intense. He kept altering my position then pounding away. He grabbed the leash on the collar and used it to move and position me to his liking. For two solid hours he fucked my cunt until it was wide open. When he would pound against my prostrate I would shake and spasm. Then he would fuck me so deep I knew he was at the turn in my colon – god damn that hurt. Finally he kept fucking my prostrate so hard until my cunt orgasmed around his cock four times, my cocklet dribbled out my pathetic cum from the tip of the cage uretheral plug. Then Jacob blew his load in my cunt, flooding me with his cum. He pulled out, unbuckled and removed the ball gag and instructed me to clean him. I cleaned his cock, balls with my faggot mouth tasting his cum and my ass juices. He had me cleanup my dribble mess from his sheets. Jabob grabbed the leash on the collar and forced me to follow him to the bathroom. He instructed me to kneel in the tub and open my fag mouth. I did as instructed and received his golden flow, in my mouth, on my head, hair, face, swallowing as quickly as possible. He stopped his flow and had me turn and present my well fucked and open ass to him. He filled my ass-cunt with his remaining piss. He asked me if I had brought my ass-plug as instructed. I said yes and showed it to him. He took my large butt plug and shoved into my cunt, “that will keep my seed and piss in you.” "Clean my Cock." I sucked and licked his wonderful cock and balls clean. Jacob removed the collar and leash, hand-cuffs, and finally the nipple clamps! Oh my God I thought I would die from the intense pain. Then he said, “Okay faggot I'm done with you. No shower, no towel, just get dressed and get the fuck out.” I was still dripping in his piss. I hurriedly got dressed, my clothes wicking up the piss on my body, and exited his place. The entire time I was walking to my car I was sure people were staring at me. All the way home I could smell Jacob, his cock, balls, cum, piss. My nipples were still screaming each time I moved, or my shirt brushed against them. My ass cheeks were burning, my neck and wrists were red, my balls were sore, my well fucked ass-cunt hummed.

As we say down south here.....Oh honey, bless your heart. I'd go through this piece by piece but it's such a delusional screed it's not worth it. The president has literally zero to do with insurance costs, and if your taxes went up, it was either state/local taxes (again, the president doesn't control those) or you made more money, because there have been NO income tax increases under Biden whatsoever. Gas prices, again, aren't set by the president, and they respond almost entirely to supply and demand. Even oil company executives will tell you that federal drilling policy has almost nothing to do with gas prices in this country. Crime cannot be "1000% lower" because "100%" lower means eliminated entirely. In point of fact, most crime has been dropping, and people's perception of crime is skewed because social media and sensationalist news sites play up crime for ratings and clicks. Both crime overall and violent crime in particular are lower. Moreover, Republicans love to tout high crime rates in big, Democratic-led cities, but the truth is that red-state crime (in places like, say, Mississippi) are double that of big cities like Chicago and New York. And as for the military equipment - in order to have left "trillions" in military equipment (presumably in Afghanistan), he would have had to have left behind nearly three years' worth of the ENTIRE military budget - including salaries, health care costs, etc. - but all in equipment; or in other words, about 10 YEARS' worth of ALL equipment purchases. If we take big-ticket items like aircraft carriers and such out of the picture (because we sure as hell didn't leave those behind), you're saying that we left behind about 35 YEARS' worth of purchases of military equipment in that country. That's bullshit. We don't even have that much stuff in total around the world. Look, I get it - you like the wannabe dictator, so fine, vote for him if you insist. Just try to come up with more credible lies, because right now, this is just pathetic.

Diet matters a lot. I eat 100% plant based, mostly wholefood, and I'm usually good to go with no prep and no problems. In the past when cleaning inside I found the main thing was to not use loads of water. Using loads of water just goes deeper and deeper, way deeper than your guy will ever go, and it becomes endless. And uncomfortable. By this point I'd be pissed off with it all and uncomfortable and just want to stay home and watch TV with the dogs.

Cold weather I'll have a coat so plenty of room for pocket junk like my phone, wallet, beer opener, etc. Always keep a couple of lube sachets in there and a condom in case I meet a guy who wants to use one. All good to go if anything happens out and about. Summer time I like cargo pants with lots of pockets for all the stuff. They're great for hooking up too, it's easy to just pull out some lube while making out. I find with some guys you've got to seize the moment before they over think getting topped, so having a pack of lube in grabbing distance when you're teasing their hole is good.

I'm not sure how anyone who claims to have a conscience could cast a vote for Mango Mussolini and sleep at night, but then I guess "conscience" is relative.

Sorry about the long pause...here goes... Im a ball of nerves as i near the end of my shift. My phone vibrates, its Big Black Dick Daddy. "When you finish work snow bunny, you come to the SureStay Hotel, I got something you been craving, and something that been craving you." I close up at work, and make my way to the SureStay and text, "I'm here, Master." Quick reply comes thru, "Room 216, get that sissy ass up here baby." I nervously get out of the car as this place is not in the best part of town and look up to the second floor and see a room with several Black men outside, that must be it. I make my way up the stairs and immediately am hit with catcalls and whistles. As I approach the door one of the Black men reaches down inside the back of my shorts and sticks his finger right up my hole, deep and I immediately feel the burn. He laughs as he pulls out his digit with a wet pop and says, "wait till that kick in and I come serve you this nigga dick, you gonna forget that Daddy and have you a Pimp, sissy," as he shakes what appears to be an enormous dick at me in his pants. The other men chuckle and open the door and usher me in. Inside the room are several more Black Kings. The whole place smells musty and sweet, intoxicating. Black man sweat permeates my nostrils and the burning in my ass has transformed into a deep hunger. All these men are in several states of dress, or rather undress, and that's when I see Daddy. He says, "Welcome to the party, snow bunny. You'll notice there are no bottoms here, as you're the guest of honor. The main attraction if you will. Now I've tasted that sweet ass, so now, it's time my crew gets in on that." He smacks my ass hard, swiping my shorts down with the slap. I don't reach for them, I just stand exposed waiting for what's next. Suddenly I'm surrounded by 5 of the biggest dicks I've ever seen. One man lifts me up in his arms while another starts eating my hole. Another puts a loaded pipe to my mouth and clicks a torch and I inhale. So much white smoke is coming through I can barely hold it in, it's so thick it's nearly yellow. When I pull off the pipe, another man, grabs and covers my mouth while holding my nose. "Hold it in til I say so, faggot!" My head is spinning. I need to exhale and breathe so I start to fight but am under his tight grip. Another man comes up and pulls out my arm, ia feel a cold wetness in the crook of my elbow and finally the man with the death grip on my face let's go and says, "Alright bitch, you can breathe now." Suddenly there's a familiar poke in my arm and all of a sudden, my body is ablaze. Just as the heat hits my hole which I can feel quivering open, I'm lowered onto a dick, and pushed all the way down to the base. I can feel this man's tight curlies as I bottom out gasping for air. This was a big slam, bigger than Ive ever done before. And finally my voice hits my ears and its screaming, "I love nigger dick. Fuck me with your nigger dicks. All of you. Fuck me til I die. I need all the nigger dicks inside me now!" And then I focus and the man with his dick rooted in me becomes familiar. It's the man from outside. He says, "How you like that 14 inches of nigger dick you got inside you now, hoe? This pimp dick is gonna change you for life. Yo Daddy ain't yo daddy no more. He done sold your pussy to me, you mine now bitch!" He flexes his monster inside me and all I can do is shiver and think, more, I need more.

Chapter 4 Adrian laid there on top of me, obiously having worked up a sweat plowing my ass because it felt like his chest had a sheen on it. We didn't say anything for what felt like an eternity, but was probably only a few minutes, and Adrian's dick stayed lodged in my ass this entire time. The only sound in the room was the whimpers coming from me. "Relax baby, I can feel that heart racing", Adrian said softely into my ear. He was talking in a much softer, almost sympathetic, tone, which was a change from just a few minutes ago. Adrian's hands slipped under my chest and began rubbing and twisting at my nipples. Nobody had ever touched my nipples like this, and his rough hands felt good as they tweaked and pulled at them. Almost like it was hard wired to my nipples, my cock was once again rock hard. "Stop the whining fag boy, look how hard that little white dicklet is just from having your tits played with. Your're turned on having your nips played with, just like a woman. That don't happen with straight boys. I know you're in denial right now, white boy, but you gotta admit you loved my big dick plowing your ass. The way you were whimpering, begging for my dick, pushing back against that big cock, there's no way you can't say you're a cock slut", he softly whispered in my ear. Adrian squeezing my nipples was making my ass twitch around his cock, clamping down on it like a vice. "Yeah look at your faggot ass, clamping down on Daddy's big cock. You're trying to get it my big cock hard so it can fuck you again?". "Nnoo...Daddy I don't think you should fuck me again". I thought to myself one poz load was enough, I might get lucky and not catch anything. "Bullshit white boy. I know that tight pussy is begging for my cock again. I'm not done fucking this ass tonight. I know this ass wants more". I moaned, not sure sure if it was from the pleasure of my nipples being played with, or the dread of knowing I was gonna be fucked again. I felt Adrian's cock start to swell in my ass, and before long he was rock hard again. Feeling the cock grow in my ass was a weird sensation, and before long I felt my ass pushing up against Adrian, trying to get more cock. I let myself go. I wanted this cock. I didn't give a fuck about anything else, all I cared about was getting another load in my ass. "Yeah baby look at you trying to get more of that cock. I turned your ass. You're such a little faggot", he whispered in my ear. I didn't care about what he was saying, as long as he fucked me again. "You want Daddy to breed this ass again?", Adrian asked. "YES DADDY...PLEASE FUCK ME" I blurted out, almost yelling. I could not believe I was begging to be fucked again. I felt Adrian push himself off my back, his hard cock still lodged deep in my ass. "I'm gonna take these cuffs off white boy, don't do anything stupid". Adrian unhooked the link between the wrist straps, freeing them, but left the straps on my wrists. I felt the blindfold ripped from my head, and I was flooded by the light as my eyes struggled to adjust. Adrian flipped me over onto my back, his cock staying in my ass as he flipped me over. "I want you to watch Daddy as he fucks this tight pussy this time". He grabbed me around the waist and pulled me close to him, pushing his cock deeper into my ass. He grabbed both of my feet and placed them on his shoulders, then leaned forward over me, pushing my ass up into the air. He grabbed my hands and pinned them above my head. I was once again totally held into place so Adrian could fuck me. Adrian's big brown eyes stared down above me as he was about only a foot away. "Beg me to fuck that ass faggot". "Ppllease...PLEASE FUCK ME" I stammered out, wishing he would just start already, wiggling my ass. "What do you want Daddy to do boy", Adrian asked. "PLEASE FUCK ME WITH THAT BIG COCK AND CUM IN MY ASS". "Be careful what you ask for white boy", Adrian smirked and I felt his cock start working its way in and out of my ass. My ass was obviously loosened up from having just been fucked a few minutes ago, but I still felt incredibly full. I could feel the first load that Adrian blew in my ass leaking out around his cock and down my ass crack. "Daddy's gonna work that first load in boy. Nothing better than fucking a sloppy ass." Adrian kept fucking me and all I could do was moan as his big cock hammered at my ass. He had picked up speed to a steady rhythm, his balls filling the room with a "SLAP SLAP SLAP" everytime he bottomed out in my ass. His cock was digging deeper than it had before at this new angle, and it hurt like hell at first, but before long I was loving it. He caught me looking at the tattoo on his waist. He smirked and pointed to it. "You like that faggot? You know what that means?". I shook my head "no". "It means Daddy is POZ", he winked and kept thrusting. For whatever reason this turned me on even more. My lega slid off Adrian's shoulders and wrapped around his waist, trying to hold him closer to get more of his cock. He let go of my hands and I grabbed onto his muscular biceps. He took his hands and started tugging at my nipples again, putting my cock into over drive. Before long my cock was spewing again, blowing another one of my loads up onto me and Adrian's chests. "That's how all white boys should cum, hands free with a big black cock slamming into their pussy. You're such a little faggot", Adrian whispered into my ass as he kept fucking me. Adrian started sucking on my neck as he fucked me. It felt so damn good. I had not had anybody suck on my neck like this since I started making out with chicks in high school. I could feel Adrian's beard scratching at my neck as he sucked on it, leaving me with burn marks. There was no way I wasn't gonna have hickey's on my neck when he was done. Before long my cock was blowing a third load. I had never cum 3 times in such a short time frame, but I just could not help myself with this big cock in my ass. When I came, my ass clamped around Adrian's cock. Not long after, Adrian's thrusts and breathing became irregular and I felt his cock swell in my ass. His cock started spurting again, dumping what felt like another massive load in my ass. "Take that poz load white boy. Daddy's filling those guts with his poz babies", he grunted out as he came in my ass. After he came, Adrian collapsed down on me again. I laid there under him, being crushed by his body weight, as we both caught our breath. I felt Adrian's cock soften and slip from my ass with a "pop", followed by dribbles of what I knew had to be Adrian's cum down my asscrack. We laid there for a few minutes before I felt Adrian slide up off of me and stand next to the bed. It had felt good to be protected under Adrian's body, almost like we were having a moment. How had a I come to this? Laying under a big black stranger who had just fucked my ass, even after I asked him not to. I should be furious right now, but all I could think about how hot his cum dripping from my ass is. My ass felt so empty, like it was missing something. If you had told me this morning that I would be laying on a bed with two poz loads up my ass tonight I would have punched you in the face. But yet here I was. "Am I gay?", I thought to myself. "Nah, this was fun, but I still love women", I tried to tell myself. "I'm gonna go back to Audrey and pretend none of this happened". But then I panicked about Adrian being POZ. My heart raced once again. How I had let this happen once, yet alone beg for it a second time? My thoughts were quickly interrupted, as I felt Adrian grab me by the hair and pull me to the side of the bed. "A faggot always cleans up when Daddy is done fucking them. Get my cock cleaned up". I looked up at Adrian's cock and saw his cock shaft was slick my ass juicies, and his short pubes had white froth in them from churning up the cum in my ass as he fucked me. Not knowing what to do I grabbed the comforter from the bed to wipe Adrian's cock, as he held my head firmly by the hair. Adrian slapped me in the face, causing me to see stars again. "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING? THE ONLY THING YOU USE TO CLEAN THAT COCK IS YOUR MOUTH!!", he bellowed out. Clearly the old Adrian was back. I gagged in my mouth, thinking about where that cock had been and what could be on it. Before I could think anymore Adrian pulled my hair into his crotch, and I had not choice but to start licking. I cleaned all of the cum and ass juices from his cock, licking around so much that my tongue started to get sore. When Adrian was satisfied with my work he let go of my hair and walked into the bathroom, while I just knelt on the bed, not knowing what to do. I heard Adrian taking a piss in the bathroom, it sounded like he had just turned a garden hose on. The toilet flushed and Adrian walked out. I looked at Adrian, waiting for my next instructions, hoping I would not be yelled at again. "Look at you obeident little white boy, waiting for Daddy to come back. Go cleaned up fag time for bed". I got off the bed and went into the bathroom. "Don't you dare push any of my babies out of your ass baby boy, we want those swimmers to knock you up tonight". I closed the door and looked in the mirror. I looked like a mess. My hair was messed up, my eyes were red and puffy, and there was dried cum on my chest. My neck was full of hickey's from where Adrian had sucked on my neck. "That's gonna be tought to explain", I thought to myself. I turned around and inspected my ass in the mirror. My ass was red and tender to the touch, and my hole looked swollen. I could see a little of Adrian's coming leaking from my hole. I washed my face under the sink and grabbed a wash cloth and wiped the cum and lube from my ass crack before going back to join Adrian. I came out of the bathroom and saw Adrian laying in the other bed than the one we had just fucked on. I went to the bed Adrian fucked me on, not wanting to share a bed with him. "No white boy, you sleep over here with Daddy tonight". "What the fuck", I thought to myself. This man had just bred my ass twice, sleeping in a bed with him wasn't going to make it any more gay than it already has been. I crawled into bed next to Adrian, and he rolled over and put his big arms around me, and I could feel his big soft cock nestled in my ass crack. I thought Adrian was trying to fuck me again, but before long I could hear him snoring in my ear. I laid there, not able to sleep, trying to gather my conflicted thoughts. "Did I really like this? Am I gay? Did I just get HIV" I thought again to myself.

Republican by registration, not by politics (I live in a red state). I consider myself "Liberaltarian". I certainly won't vote for the orange sociopath. Not particularly keen on Biden either. It's fairly clear that my wishes and interests won't be addressed in the Presidential election. Further down the ticket, things get more interesting... especially in the primary. Get out and vote, everyone!

Magnificent pigtits here: [think before following links] https://xhamster.com/videos/titpig-galore-xhWh5qr

Considering someone's butt is basically the other end of the main intake of "foreign matter" into the digestive tract, it always amuses me that people think that diet has less affect on cleaning than it does; to me it just makes common sense. Also, I suspect there'd be a bunch of healthier men if they all ate as though they needed to be "regular" or "easily cleaned out" all the time...I imagine there's already studies on this question but there may not be.

BootmanLA beat me to this one. Here's a bit more info. The human body is about 60% water. Normal Saline (NS) is made by boiling water and adding sodium chloride ( that's what table salt is), using a mixture of about 250mL of water with a teaspoon of salt. Sodium chloride (NaCl) is a water attractant, one molecule of NaCl will attract seven molecules of water. The way it works as an enema is it pulls water out of your body through and into your colon, thus affecting stool softening and evacuation. Since it pulls water from your body, NS enema can dehydrate you and that can lower your blood pressure. Fleet enemas use Sodium Phosphate, which is different from a NS enema, not the homemake NS type. Overuse can result in too much phosphate (hyperphosphatemia) and too much sodium (hypernatremia) in the blood stream. People with kidney disease should consult their doctor before using a sodium phosphate product. Over use by anyone can cause an electrolyte imbalance. Over use of either can end up affecting electrolyte balance. Even plain water can result in "water poisoning." Without the added sodium, tap water can be absorbed by your colon instead of drawing water out if you hold it in for long periods and one can become hyper hydrated, diluting the blood, and throwing off electrolyte balance. Most of us here are not using any of these things so much as an enema as we are using them as a douche. Douching the rectum is different that a colonic enema. I douche, and yeah, sometime that involves some of the tale end of my colon if water goes into the sigmoid. But i (and i suspect most of us cleaning out) am not holding the water in, i am flushing out. I have a shower shot and water goes in and i pretty much instantly expel it, so i'm not absorbing much if any water. Enema fetish is a whole different ball game, and depending on what one is using, can have profound effects on the body. i'm notta doctor and not giving medical advice here, but i think the safest method is just plain water quickly in and quickly out to avoid absorption and simply flush out waste. Try and avoid going deep, the more colon you involve, the greater the effects on your body. None of this stuff is without side effect, so i'd suggest minimizing is key. Healthy, high fiber diet is the only one of these things with a positive side effect, promoting a healthy gut micro biome and maybe balancing out some of the other stuff we put up in there lol.

A quick reminder - this is the Health forum, and eroticizing/fetishizing AIDS (and "the AIDS look" and the like) is forbidden here. It's actually against the rules of the site in broad terms, but in this forum, where the purpose is to share information on how to keep ourselves healthy with our sex lives, it's way past inappropriate.

Your infectivity will depend on the stage of infection of the syph - i.e. 1) early - has it had time to colonize and multiply its viral load numbers in the first month or so? possible but still a low chance 2) Or if it's in stage 2, aside from the rash everyone gets, it's common to get oozing canchre sores as well. If it's on ur dick and oozing, yah id say thats more infectious But yeah, dont procrastinate with syph or ignore it - no one will want to fuck you once it gets set up and starts progressively making you uglier and uglier with body bumps, lip sores, oozing sores on ur dick that dont heal, systemic inflammation causing hair loss, dry skin, acne and loss of ur gym gains. U also feel will like shit all the time. So yeah, get that shit cleared up asap. The penicillin butt shot sucks but it's the fastest and strongest option imo as doxy pep is like a week at least if it's early stage. If u had been using dox as a prophylactic tho, u would be able to top by day 3 without being infectious

As a top … I like the idea of locking a sub in chastity… But, conversely to what the bottoms on this thread seem to be looking for.. I would unlock my bottom during sex-not that he would be allowed to touch himself- but I like seeing a bottom rock hard when he is getting fucked … bonus points if he cums hands free while getting fucked … but whether he does or doesn’t- he gets locked up again after the fuck - so I know he can’t play with himself hopefully keeping him horny so that he is begging to get fucked again

I can’t wait to get fucked wearing my cage. I’ve worn it sucking guys off but yet to get fucked wearing it. I love feeling the heavy cage hang and swing while I’m sucking / looking forward to that feeling as i’m getting pounded.

Rectums are like bodies in general, 'one size does not fit all.' I.e., You have to learn your own size. i've read things like guys who insert and count to 3, but then that doesn't say how high the water is if it's a shower shot. That said: "Rectal balloon volume and pressure at maximum tolerable sensation in comparison with age. (A) Rectal balloon volume. Almost all patients had an increased rectal volume suitable for their age and it can be seen that rectal volume increased with age. In accordance with our unpublished data and previous studies, the normal values of rectal volume at maximum tolerable volume for a child of 6 years is 135 mL and for an adult it is 240 mL. 25,26 (B) Rectal balloon pressure. Although the volume of the rectum increases with age, pressure remains relatively stable. Rectal pressure is a sensation and it is, therefore, not influenced by the existence of dyssynergic defecation. " [think before following links] https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Rectal-balloon-volume-and-pressure-at-maximum-tolerable-sensation-in-comparison-with-age_fig1_272198218#:~:text=In accordance with our unpublished,age%2C pressure remains relatively stable.

Hampstead Heath on a warm summer evening can be a delight. I’ve spent many an hour bent over tree trunks there, watching hedgehogs snuffle around and foxes gambol in the twilight while I wait for men to mount me…

Amen!

Yeah, just today I was talking with a guy then discovered he's someone I kind of know at work. Well he gives me the creeps, you know, gut instinct bad vibes, so I blocked him soon as I realised. Not a very sexy story! I'll be more careful in future though as there were clues who he was before he sent a photo.

outerwear is anything simple that can be discarded asap. if i'm going somewhere i know to a regular's i'll do just gym shorts an flip flops weather permitting. hosting, ive given up on greeting guys at door clothed altogether in favor of door open waiting blindfolded an ready as for what i leave on, i tailor it to the guys' bent. i lean heavily leather harness and used jock typically but i also have a drawer full of uncomfortable thongs etc because i aim to please

A jockstrap is must!

Just the head. I always ask the Top to warn me when he’s close to cumming so that I’m prepared to swallow the full load. I hate to waste a single tasty drop. Attached is a pic of the 20 y/o twirk’s cock I will be feeding in in a couple hours. He’s usually good for feeding me 2 or 3 huge loads.

Yes, the walk of shame, but he had a butt plug-in. No butt plug is better; as the cum will leak out then, everyone knows what you are

Had an older man empty his cumfilled condom in my mouth once. "Made" me swallow the contents... I obeyed, of course. Felt so slutty - just wonderful!

This is a tough one. I love that first small taste at the back of my throat - I know in two seconds my mouth will be flooded. But I also like "half facial/half tongue" or the full facial so I can watch him stroking and see his cock shoot the load. I always insist my lover move his cock around as he shoots to spread the cum all over my face, forehead, cheeks, chin, lips. Then have him use the head of his cock to wipe it in my mouth. Fuckin' glorious!

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Anyone experienced at hotel hosting avoids the staff problem relatively easily. Cleaning staff do not service rooms at random times; they do so during the period between the posted time for checkout and checkin, when rooms that have been vacated are not yet occupied and must be prepared for the next guests. Servicing of rooms occupied by guests staying multiple days can be avoided with a bit of observation. When the staff cart is seen outside the doors, or one hears knocks on adjacent doors followed by “Housekeeping”, one knows to suspend activity until it has passed. You can proactively head the problem off in two ways - either approach the staff member and tell them that you will not require service in your room that day, or simply leave the “Do Not Disturb” sign hanging on the doorknob. That’s what it’s for. Getting caught by the cleaning staff strikes me as a problem of someone inexperienced, careless, or with a foolish fetish that can get them evicted. It’s worth noting, additionally, that increasingly, lower-end establishments are cutting costs by providing housekeeping service to occupied rooms only on request, and this policy is usually posted somewhere in the room such as on a card in the bathroom. This also means that you have to be conservative in your use of your towels, because you won’t get fresh ones without a call to staff. Another unforced error: Setting off the smoke alarms. Why? Why? Hotels bend over backwards telling you the room is non-smoking, fines, the whole thing, yet imbeciles insist on either ignoring or attempting to defeat or tamper with the smoke alarm. (No, Mr. Top, you may not light your joint in my hotel room. Go do that outside, if you must. My ass isn’t going anywhere.) Now, a certain amount of common-sense discretion is in order when you’re cumdumping at a general public hotel, however seedy. Fantasies aside, most people aren’t actually interested in seeing us getting assfucked, and many may be genuinely offended and consider it obscene. Worse, a child might be exposed to it. So we should take reasonable care not to make what we’re doing so obvious that management has no choice but to intervene. We keep the curtains closed, because this isn’t Amsterdam and we can’t advertise our ass like it’s a shop window. I have had two experiences in which Tops flagrantly did not consider this: In one instance, the Top opened the curtains fully, positioned me specifically for view, and began skullfucking. In the second, the Top came in, left the door standing wide open to the outside, and rough-fucked me to completion before he walked out, leaving the door wide open and me in full view, fucked and dripping. Both rooms were ground floor. Anyone could have walked by at any moment. I have no idea whether anyone did, but I felt extremely exposed. (And no, I couldn’t have insisted they close the window or door, because that was clearly their fetish, and it would have significantly marred their sexual pleasure had I done so, the exact opposite of what I’m for.)

I'm not sure why 3, but I am going to take it literally.

Andrew watched as the colossal hooded man made his way towards dias and him. He didn't have as many tattoos as some of the other men in the room, just a pentacle tattooed above his navel and the phrase "Ave Satana" underneath. What really stood out, was all of his cock piercings, his PA shone menacingly in the dark church. There in the red-light, his massive footsteps pounding on the stone floor. Swinging as he stepped, his massive cock was adorned with a ladder of barbells down the underside, and a thick metal cock ring at the base. Father' colossal muscular body made his way to the dias, and Andrew couldn't help but rub his hole. He was hungry, he needed cock in him right now, and this Father would give him what he desperately needed. Turning now to the crowd of jerking, rowdy men all who watched him. Father spoke. "Brothers, I see you have done a good job of twisting this fag up for his conversion. Thank you" Andrew sat up, Father had approached the edge of the mattress, his wicked cock just centimeters from his mouth. He edged towards it, sticking his tongue out to taste the poz precum dripping from the PA. No sooner than he had a taste, was he suckling on the head of the cock. Father not missing a beat spoke even louder now. "We welcome Dom's own flesh and blood to our Dark Lords Poz brotherhood today, converting him to the debauched piggy worship of the fallen." Andrew gagged, he was desperate to worship this Poz god in front of him. Two hands were now clasped around his head, as Father idly fucked Andrews skull infront of all these men. "Mmm, Dark Lord accept this worship and gift this fag with your sin" "HAIL S@TAN" The room chanted, now baying. Andrew could hear grunting, and the smell of sweat hung heavy in the air. He looked up at Father, his glowing eyes staring into Andrews own. Andrew could imagine it was his real father, that it was the cock that made him he was worshiping now. Andrew pushed the cock deeper into his throat, his mind racing with dirty thoughts of incest. A pair of hands began to stroke his ass, Andrew pushed back, presenting more of his hole to the crowd of men behind him. The hands stroked and probed, playing gently with his hole and he nursed on Fathers cock. He felt a wetness, then a rough finger pushing deep into his hole. Andrew wish he could turn round, again gagging on the big cock infront of him, he wanted to know if it was his uncle playing with his hole. Suddenly his hole was burning, the sensation doubled in power every second. Andrew bucked his hips, he had never felt this horny before, even the hits on Poz pigs glass cock was nothing compared to this. "The fags cunt is ready Father" a voice sounded from behind Andrew, he couldn't tell who it was. Andrew bucked again, he needed cock, he needed a big poz cock in his hole now. The thick cock left his mouth, leaving him feel empty, his eyes desperately pleaded with Father as he slowly walked round the edge of the mattress. "Please fuck me Father, please" Andrew begged "You'll have our dark strain forever, the same one as your uncle, the same as your father, you want that?" "Please, please poz me Sir, I need it" "Beg him for it" gesturing forward, towards the toppled cross at the altar. "Please Lucifer, please knock me up, I need your Poz seed, I need my uncles cock." Father was behind him now, his wickedly pierced cock hanging at the tight winking entrance. Andrews back was arched, he was inexperienced but he knew that he had to, he needed it. Andrew needed a real man to fuck him right, not like the boyfriends he had at Uni, he needed a real fuck. Father's PA pushed against the tight ring, Andrew moaned in pain as it began to push past. Then one by one each of the barbells pushed past the rapidly stretching man cunt. Pushing deep into him, Andrew began to moan, half sobbing he cried out into the mattress. Andrew begged, begged for more cock, begged for his Uncle, begged for Lucifer to convert him. Father was picking up pace now, Andrew could feel every piercing tearing through him. He felt his hole stretch around the mammoth cock, he was still hungry, he needed this poz cum in his hole bad. Crying out as Fathers cock pistoned harder into his hole, a pair of strong hands muffled his mouth. Pulling his head back and arching his back more, he could feel the heavy PA drag along inside him, hitting somewhere deep inside him. His groans stiffled, he opened his eyes and saw his Uncle looking back at him, idly jerking his cock and smoking as he watched his nephew be defiled. Andrew whimpered, looking deep into his uncles eyes and then at his beautifully pierced cock. Andrew may be converted by Father, but he knew he had to have his uncles cock in his mouth whilst it happened. He needed that sin, that worship to the Dark King. Stepping towards him, Uncle Dom obliged. Father dropped his hands to Andrews shoulders, as Uncle Dom placed his thick cock at his lips and enveloped Andrew in a cloud of smoke. Opening to suckle on the sweet poz precun that dripped from the PA, he could feel his Uncle tense. Suddenly hot salty piss filled Andrews mouth, burning with a chemical taste Andrew dutifully tried to swallow. Piss trickled down Andrews body, pooling in the dirty mattress that he was being converted on. Andrew guzzled the chem piss from his uncle, looking deep into Doms eyes, hoping that his Uncle would be proud of him. "Good fag" Dom gently ruffled Andrews hair, pushing his cock deeper into Andrews mouth.

What to do Next I was stunned at all I heard. I went home and looked up the term 'bug chasing' to discover its meaning. I now understood why I only had the flu for 3 days, I had the 'fuck flu'. I sat in my dorm room figuring out what to do next. Then I remembered the tattoo I was given and figured out its true meaning. Thank god our firm showers are singles. I couldn't imagine how I'd explain that to my dorm mates (let alone my roommate). All through the week I tried to put it out of my mind. I did my best to avoid being naked or shirtless around my roommate. As the weekend drew closer I find myself wishing that the drug trial was still going on, I could use a hit of what they were giving me. Then I thought, 'was it really a sex drug or something else. I then thought about the two roommates I meet and exchanged numbers with a couple weeks back. I asked if I could meet up and talk with them this weekend. They gave me their address (just off campus). I headed over to their place, the walk only took 10 minutes. They welcomed me with a hug and a kiss. I was really glad to see these guys and hoped they could help me figure out what to do next. They were shocked that I was duped. They asked how I was doing with the thought of being poz. I was honest that it was a big shock but what could I do know, there was no going back. They reach shared that their pozing was just as much of a shock as mine was, but they learned to embrace it and were now able to fuck bareback all the time and with meds they were very healthy. As we sat there they asked me what my plans were for the night. I was honest when I told then that deep down I wish that the drug trial was still going on, I'd really like a hit of what I was getting during that time. They smiled and let me in on a little secret, they were hoping I might party with then that night, possibly spend the weekend with them high as fuck and fucking high. They knew by my smile that that was a yes. As they pulled out supplies they gave me a Viagra (to offset the effects of the Tina). I watched intently as they prepared the needles and explained the entire process. After the points were prepared they began to undress, so I followed their lead. Once we were all naked I followed them to the bedroom. One of then put porn on as the other one told me to lay back on the bed. It was explained to me how to administer a slam. I was so eager to have that 'shot' I was so ready, ready to get high, ready to fuck. We began to mange kiss, lick and suck as we waited for the Viagra to take effect. As we worked ourselves up one of the guys slipped a cock ring on me which increased the intensity of my throbbing cock. I was told to lay back as the black roommate began to get between my legs. They told me that he loves to be inside a nice ass when he is slammed. He eased his cock inside my ass while the white roommate prepared my arm while continuing to explain the process. He fixed a piece of rubber very tightly on my arm, then wiped a prominent vein with alcohol and with nice skill he slipped the point into my arm. He explained the flash of blood I was familiar with from the 'dug trial' indicating he was I the vein, then pushed the plunger down emptying the Tina into my vein. While I was getting my skin the black guy did his own and as soon as the point was out of my arm he began to slowly fuck me. I was made to wait a couple minutes as I began to feel my arm 'go to sleep' due to the cut of blood flow. He was ready to start pounding away at my hole as the tourniquet was pulled off and my arm raised over my head. I felt the temperature jump as the other roommate did his slam before giving me his cock to suck. I could feel cum leaking from his cock as he stroked my hard cock. We switched positions over the weekend and I got my first time to top Tina. We did a few more slams and by mid day Sunday we were all spent. They had gone through their entire stash and let them know that next time I could help pay for supplies.

Fucking awesome. Quite frankly one of the best stories I have read here.

Kind of appropriate in my book, but it is an autocorrect. LOL.

Week 3 When I woke Monday I went and picked up my check and had my blood drawn. The guy who drew the sample told me that I didn’t look all that good. I told him that when I woke up I wasn’t feeling all that well. He suggested that I go home and climb into bed for the day. After taking my check to the bank I did as he suggested and spent the next 3 days in bed. I woke Thursday starting to feel better and was grateful since I did not want to miss the next trial session Friday night. I headed to the testing, received my shot and got fucked like I had the previous two weeks. I saw the hottie and his roommate who double fucked me the week before. Half the night I spent with them tag teaming me, fucking and seeding my hole. After we were all done we exchanged numbers as the sun came up. Week 4 The week started like normal. I picked up my check and had my weekly blood draw when I was asked if I’d like to make some extra money this final week. I was interested in more money and asked how. I was told if I consented to spending the weekend getting multiple doses of the drug. The testing would start as early as I was available Friday and would last until Sunday. My interest was definitely peaked so I asked how much more could I earn? If I was available the entire time I could make $750. I could get an extra $250 if I was willing to try multiple forms of the drug. That made a total of $1000 I would make in addition to the $750. I couldn’t resist and agreed to the weekend testing. When I arrived Friday afternoon I prepared for a long weekend of sex. I was taken to the sling again and was prepped for my shot. I didn’t say a word as I laid there as the fixed tourniquets on both my arms. The shots were administered in both arm at the same time, but the tourniquets were removed one at a time. First the right one was pulled off and I felt the drug work into my chest as I coughed out and with no warning the left one was pulled off and I felt that hit me hard. As I lay there I began to hear a ringing in my ears and had a little trouble focusing as I felt something cool being inserted into my ass. I faintly recall someone saying that I was given a suppository that would slowly melt and ass to my high. My high, I thought this was a sex enhancement drug not a drug that gets a guy high. I was trying to comprehend what was being said but all I knew was that I needed to be fucked. It didn’t take long before I was starting to get fucked. One by one each guy began to fuck me as I began to feel a slight burn in my ass and felt the feeling of the drug begin to get stronger. As the weekend continued they kept giving me one form of the drug or another. At one point I was taken out of the sling and I was laid over a bed to allow my ass to rest. As I lay there and fed a nice cock to suck I felt a stinging on my low back. I had no clue what was going on. I was then put back in the sling where the fucking resumed. I guess that it was Sunday as I began to come around. I was no longer in the testing facility. I did not recognize where I was until I saw a guy with a towel over his shoulder that read “The Boys Club”. I knew this to be the local bath house near campus. I was trying to figure out how I was now at the local bath hose when I felt a slight sting on my low back. I got up and as I wondered around I found a key around my wrist. It had a number on it that I was told was a locker where I would find my clothes. As I pulled my underwear on I felt a sting as the waist band rested on my low back. I walked over to the mirror and looked to see a tattoo half hidden by the waist band of my underwear. I lowered the band so I could see the full tattoo to find that same strange symbol I saw on some many guys who fucked me over the 4 weeks of the trial. As I was looking at the tattoo a guy walked in and asked if I liked his work. He continued that they didn’t see many guys my age who bug chased and then celebrated testing poz with a biohazard tattoo.

Back to the question at hand; how do you feel, is there a disconnect. Hell yes there is a disconnect. Unless you are deep into a circle of guys who play all the time, you tend to hunt around the edges looking for others not in the " pack" . For me, single now 12 years and 55 -well, almost 56- working fulltime and not really a bar goer, that limits the choices. Gay men in this beach city are in love with the tourist- strange fresh meat with no intentions of getting serious or even remembering each others names after 5 or six days of hedonism. I can get laid at the sex club- often by an older, also alone man who is just looking for an outlet. Or by a tourist, looking for sex he doesn't get at home from his boyfriend or wife. As far as me- I have been poz (known by testing) since 1987, although my pozzing happened in 84 I am fairly certain. Whenever I get a flu or cold, I head in to the doctors- not that he can do much for a cold, but to assure myself that it doesn't progress. This week my throat got sore and my sinuses got infected from allergies. Once upon a time I probably would have weathered it out- now, I do the Dr and make sure it doesn't open the doorway for something else to get established and weaken my immune system. A mild infection was detected, antibiotic ordered, and I was on my way-- but the shadow of the HIV hangs overhead with each bruise, cough or lazy do nothing day. Oh yeah- another thing- if you are neg today, and want to make some investments in life insurance for the long term, do it now before you convert. Once you get sick and tested poz, you can forget about any insurance policies, or in many cases of ever leaving the job you are in today. After all, if you quit, what will you do for health insurance? And a new employer, as a part of the hiring screening, can filter you out in the physical part of the hiring process. I would love to retire at 55, but cannot- I need the insurance to cover my ass for the meds ( they still cost me $200 for a 3 month supply- without insurance, it would be almost $2300) Do I regret being poz? Sure. But, I AM poz, so it is what it is-- I have come to realize I don't always see the purpose of something at the time I am living it- but I always see how things in the past fit together to bring clarity to my lifes path and where I am at the moment. Maybe being poz has been a blessing I have not come to wrap my head totally around- yet.