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This morning i was putting lotion on my hands, and as is my habit, i put on extra because i often apply the extra to my ass. i also exfoliate regularly. i know this thread may come off as silly to a lot of guys, and i'm not overly serious about it either, so have at it, i can laugh at myself pretty easily. my physical sexuality is thoroughly entangled with my psychological sexuality, so as readers of my posts may have noticed, i tend to be very cerebral about all things sexual and analyze the fuck out of fucking. me? i want to be "soft and hairless." More correctly, i want to be wanted as "soft and hairless," and yeah, that goes way beyond just the physical for me. There's a decided mind fuck to it for me when a Man sees and/or wants me that way. Which is not to say i'm overtly feminine, i'm not. i've often been frustrated at how i continually have to explain to people i'm gay, like when women hit on me. So i know i'm not stereotypical. i'm not a gorilla but i am naturally hairy, so i if i want to achieve smooth, i have to wax (painful and tedious) or shave (not as good of results). The truth though is, when it comes to these things, it's not something i make a deal about choosing. my desire to be "soft and hairless" is a reflective, responsive part of me that responds to a Man who likes/wants that. So, it is something i can choose without violating my general nature as a total bottom. Still, "soft and hairless" makes me feel vulnerable and fuckable, and i love when a Man wants me that way. For those who think of such things, thought it would be fun to find out Top, versatile, bottom,__________, views about this.

That was supposed to be "mind fucky" .... funking spell check.

okay, this is wild, do dreams count? This one did for me, i woke up from it about an hour ago and it is still with me, so i thought i'd share it with all of You/you. i was in a restroom stall of sorts, the stall was large, like one of those handicapped stalls and the door was open, so it was in anyones view. i was kneeling and just finishing sucking a Mans Cock and a Man who was with a woman walk in and head into the stall and we were all standing the two Men near me and the woman was sort of in the background. my sense in the dream was that during the momentary standing around 'pecking order' was being determined. The Man Who had just arrived with the woman came over to me (we were still all standing) and turned me around, pulled my jeans down to just above my knees and came up behind me and slid His Cock into me. And that is what woke me up, i could feel His Cock as it went in and i was close to having an orgasm (literally, i would have had a wet dream had i not woken up). The mind is so amazing, i teach patients all the time that "pain is all in the brain," and i thought of that as i woke this morning, how the sensations of fucking are also in the brain. Dreams can be so revealing, they can reveal things like what we deeply want, or are worried about, or_________, but they often reveal our root needs/desires. This one was so mind funky for me, very exposing of my sub side. The thing that i was feeling so keenly in the dream was my position in the order (these words sound way to clinical, it felt incredible and is a big part of what was bringing me to orgasm). The Alpha Man was breeding me in front of the Man Who's cock i'd just sucked (and somehow i knew the new Man knew this) and was taking full possession of me in front of both the other Man and the woman. I've never had or experienced a thought about a Man breeding me in front of a woman... not something i would consciously want at all, but in the dream, it was as if they were all there to demonstrate my position in the order of things, and as i felt that, i almost came. Wow, that was profound.

Bout a half hour ago. my Sweet Latino FB. Had been a week since i heard from Him, which is a long time for us. He woke up wanting to fuck this morning and texted me His usual message: "free rn?" (free right now?). He's typically totally spontaneous, hormones ya know?, and if i don't get back to Him right away, He jacks off or does something else. i don't get the impression He hooks with any other guys, He's Bi and has a girlfriend. He says i'm the only guy He has sex with, but who knows, eh? Doesn't matter to me, long as He's happy and fulfilled, but i naturally scramble and prep when He texts. So i text back, "give me a few to prep and i let You know when i'm ready" (i am always waiting naked and ass up for Him). He texted back: "sorry, my bad, i meant today, just waking up." i asked when He was thinking, He said around Noon. He called about 0910 and asked if i was available (we've been FB's for >2 years now, so i'm used to Him lol). i told Him i'd prep and text Him when i was done. i douched and slid a tampon in my hole to absorb excess water, so any 'sloppy' would be from Him, and as i was walking to the kitchen trash can to pull it out and throw it away, i saw His car in my driveway. So, ran to the bed and texted: "ready" and He came in and loaded me twice. After, i dressed in my jock and sweats for the gym, He commented on my yellow jock... He doesn't realize what yellow means lol... info for another day. And i'm off to the gym with a smile on my face. What a great way to start the day. sigh. life is sweet.

Met a sweet Saudi Arabian guy on squirt last night. He's a student and Bi, i think i was His third guy He's been with. After a lot of chat, i realized how new and inexperienced he is, so part of me wanted to be there for him in a sensitive way, help Him figure out where he's at. He wasn't quite ready to top or Top, so i ended up sucking Him off... twice. He was very tactal and just me kissing and touching his arms and chest made him moan and twitch. So fucking hot. i did a slow, teasing suck on Him bringing Him close, then stopping or changing in a way that edged him. Got two big loads down my throat. He told me He had to piss, so i asked Him if He was feeling adventurous. He was horny and open, so i gave Him a quick primer on WS. We went into my walk in shower and i held His flaccid cock in my mouth. Had to help Him as as soon as His cock was in my mouth, He got turned on and couldn't piss. i sat back with is cock about 5 inches from my face and coached him to look at the shower drain and talked to him about other stuff to get his mind off trying to piss. He started to flow, and there was no problem after that, it was quite a rush of piss. i'm still learning how to drink piss from a cock without spilling, this was my third time doing it. Quantity has not been an issue for me, but still conditioning myself with taste. The first rush, sadly, filled my mouth and came back out, maybe about a quarter of His piss. After that, i swallowed every drop without spilling and took a good step forward in my conditioning, my head got into it and overcame my taste buds and i got a gut full. i could tell that He liked it, but was also probably a little confused since it was all new to Him, He'd never even heard of WS. i asked Him what He was thinking and He told me He was thinking about when we could get together again, so we'll see what kind of things He took away and ends up fantasizing about. Not generally one to hook with newbies, as a total bottom not generally one to instruct or coach, but was a sweet experience being part of His discovery.

Wow, this hole is flawless, fucking gorgeous.

Learning to swallow. i've received lots of piss up the ass and love that. i've also loved the idea of drinking a Mans piss from His cock. my desire is maybe more specific than generic. i don't like the taste of piss (yet?), but i love the idea of drinking from a Mans cock if He is into it. I want it to be mutual, that He gets off on using me that way because i get off on His pleasure. To me there are a few things i love: being a part of a Mans pleasure when He 'releaves' Himself, and being the receptacle of His release, relief, and subsequent pleasure. The other thing is the mind fuck, that He realizes i get so much pleasure out of His pleasure that i enjoy being His toilet... even crave it. i love that understanding, connection i can have with a Man. i had my third experience tonight and did really well, got overwhelmed at first, but then swallowed every drop after that without spilling. The taste didn't bother me this time and now i have piss breath... which reminds me of His cock and pleasure in my mouth.

i'm notta top, but i 'played' one when i was married (to a woman). Despite having no hetero needs, my bottom/sub nature? still found a way to derive pleasure with her by giving her pleasure. i learned early on how to control when i came till when or after she did. If she was really flipping out and overwhelmed with pleasure, it would start to throw my switches for orgasm as well. i could control even that to some degree, but there was no need once my 'job' was done. That said, i don't know if that has any bearing on how a true Top/Man (lol, just how i relate to those labels) experiences this? i tend to think orgasm is not Him or me, but a combination, chemistry. And that varies and is where individualism comes in. i do believe that most of us, Top, bottom or anywhere in between, enjoy giving pleasure as part of sex, that our pleasure response is somehow directly effected by the pleasure we are, or are not giving our partner during sex. i do believe, whether we are aware of it or not, that there is a big mental/emotional component to when and how we climax, that i think supersedes the physical component.

Love this thread, men are so fucking hot. i posted a used hairy hole shot earlier, butt our individual holes can be molded and modified, eh? Here's a different pic of mine with less hair and more opened. i can be hairy, smooth or in between, that's something i'm happy to switch up depending on the Man i'm with.

To me, verbal, or any sounds that come out of me, are a response to the Man i am with, not the other way around. i sucked a Mans cock about a week ago, and He was incessant with verbal. i have experienced incessant verbal with a Top before, and it was one of the most profound connections i have ever had, but with this Guy, it was interfering with the connection. The difference? The Man i connected with was real, all His verbal was a real expression of what He was feeling and experiencing, the one who disconnected was trying to hard, he was doing what he thought would be hot, effective, but it was contrived vs a real expression of where he was at, what he was feeling. i think verbal or sounds that we make, are tools to communicate, not to imitate some porn scene or some imagined event we want vs the one we are currently experiencing. As an aside, sometimes the words that come out are nonsensical, especially if the sex connection is really good, brain gets overloaded and what comes out of the mouth is word salad lol. i think imitation begging from a bottom, or imitation instruction from a Top, are both obnoxious and counter productive. But when they are expressions of what One/one is truly feeling and experiencing at the time, i think it is part of the fuck and connection and i'm glad when it's expressed.

Thought it could be fun to start a thread on the differences between gay and straight. Can be serious, stereotype, or just tongue in... cheek, whatever strikes you, as a difference in the two cultures; Here's one just to start it off. In straight culture, if a man tells a woman: "I love you" she's afraid he doesn't want relationship, that he's just trying to get in her pants. In gay culture, if a man tells a man: "I love you," the recipient is afraid he wants a relationship, and not 'just' sex. In a straight dynamic, sex is payment for something. i a gay dynamic, sex is the something. Hope to read some further quips and thoughts on how guys with guys vs guys with women dynamic plays out.

Bout a half hour ago. The Man i mentioned in the post above. He's become a FB, albeit less frequently, about every 10 days. He loves to have His cock sucked and worshiped before fucking, which is a pleasure, it's a sweet cock, very thick. He's always clean and He is hairless on His cock and balls, which i really find sexy. i really was mesmerized by HIs cock today and got in the zone very fast. i was taking Him all the way and in my throat without much gagging and was able to hold Him there for long periods... which He really liked and was leaking precum a lot. His pleasure totally fed my lust and i rubbed His cock on my face so i could have His precum scent on me, i am still breathing Him in as i write this. After sucking Him for some time, He was ready to fuck me, so i was on my stomach. i don't know if it's the size of His cock or the size of His skill, but HOLY FUCK He had me practically screaming with pleasure. To me, every fuck feels incredible, truly, but HIs level of control and possession of me were way the hell up there... i was babbling like a crazed person, He had me so in His power. He too was naturally verbal, nothing contrived, so i knew He was really getting off and that of course doubled my pleasure. When He was ready to seed me, He announced and asked if i wanted, sorta got me to beg for it, and He reached a hand behind Him and was stroking my inner thighs with lube He had on HIs hands, and i just about climaxed when He did that. Wow, i'm so grateful, i've been bred twice in 12 hours, and it was not just a quick hook up, but an ongoing connection... which i really love, that fucks my mind too.

Last night. For those following my saga, it was with my Latino FB. After a couple of years of breeding me, i have a lot of His seed in me, we're probably up to several hundred breedings. The longer we know each other, the more often He breeds me. Last night was the third time in five days. Despite Him knowing i worked yesterday, He texted me and asked if i was available and then put that little praying hands emoji and asked "PLEASE." 13 hours of brutal critical care nursing, and i was going to hit the gym after work to continue my every other day 'skinny white boy routine.' i don't usually hook on work days, but recently have with Him on the last day of my rotation. i drove home fast after work, showered and prepped and texted Him. Nothing back. So after waiting 45 minuted, i texted i was going to the gym. i was all prepped and squeaky clean, so i slipped a bottle of lube in my sweats and off i went. There's always hot Men to watch at the gym. So many Guys in tight fitting sweats or shorts, i can do my whole routine on horny energy. i am a really happy guy after divorce and growing up, i pretty much love Men universally it seems. Though total bottom, a Mans ass is what turns me on, so i'm usually in hyper drive at the gym. No guys obviously cruising though, who goes to the gym at 815 on a Friday night? Enough Guys to fuel my lust. When i finished my weight rotation and left, checking my phone my Latino FB had texted and was on again. He does "dabs" and apparently marijuana makes one horny. Glad i didn't get a ticket going home, drove really fast after texting Him i was on my way from the gym. He didn't text back, so i didn't know if we'd hook, but passed Him driving as i turned onto my street. He turned His car around and followed me back. That was a first. We have always done walk in prior, me naked and waiting ass up, He comes in my unlocked back door. This time we both came in the house fully clothed through the front door. We have become so familiar and comfortable with each other, yet the sex is never routine or mechanical. It is kinda mind blowing to me that after a couple of years, sex with Him is always FUCKING INCREDIBLE. He videos me a couple of months back, and watching the vid was eye opening for me, i make a lot more sounds when getting fucked than i realized, and i think that has happened as i've gotten older. Sex hasn't gotten older, it always seems to be mind blowing for me? i am always still horny after since i don't wanna cum as part of my bottom wiring, butt it's not the kind of insatiable horniness i used to experience, It's the kind of horniness where i could continue to get fucked... forever it seems, my hole is a resilient cunt at this stage, but i'm also very satisfied and grateful for the Man i was just with. i cherish every fuck, it never is routine or 'just' physical for me it seems. And fuck, my hole was so opened and slippery when He was done using me, i was wondering how i was gonna keep all His seed? Turned out He bred deep, so i still have Him inside me this morning. Heaven still. Another less frequent FB emailed me at work yesterday, wants to "feed me" His "fat cock" (it is) today. He's coming over in a few hours. His cock is so thick i come close to orgasm receiving Him. Either way, this bottom is getting sweetly used.

i would not presume to answer for all bottoms, or even bottoms in general, but i can answer for myself. i'm wired to receive a Man inside of me, so i label myself "total bottom." But for me, sex is a part of that wiring, not the whole need/desire. It's as if i have this complex place inside of me that only a 'Man/Top' can fill. i put those labels, Theirs and mine, in single quotes because the defining both is a very complex and detailed process, and i think central for me when answering this question. i'm not sure it would be reasonable to think one Man could fill that space solo, or vice versa for that matter? For instance, compare sex to food (i know, not a perfect comparison, but work with me). i need both to live. Both are psychologically and physically (i think the two are connected) necessary to my health. Can i live without chocolate? Yeah, but i would not be as happy and healthy psychologically without, because it satisfies a real need/want. i get more than a cock and seed from sex, i get more than physical need and desire met. i connect with the Man i am with on so many levels, hopefully as many levels as we can. But that is a complex process. It requires elements like awareness, communication, compatibility, ad infinitum? That said, i think many of us go for quantity, wittingly or unwittingly, because, Top, bottom and everywhere in between, we all have the need/desire to connect, and the places where we need/want to connect are numerable, and often not even conscious. i think partly that's our fault, because we do not take time or make the effort to identify why or what it is that is fueling our drive. i think if we did, many of us would land somewhere in the middle. i know i could be pretty damned satisfied with one Top where we have several crucial needs/desires in common, maybe even enough to be monogamous... idk, haven't had the opportunity to try. i don't look at monogamy as some sort of moral ideal, i think it can have a lot of practical elements though. Probably would be more like having one significant sexual home, where i 'eat most of my meals' and we both go out to eat when we don't have what we want at home. i think "slut" is not an identity, but a need based disposition that can be affected by our attention and understanding. Again, no 'moral' implications in any of my comments.

I do encounter Tops who clearly state they have no interest in cock, touching or otherwise. i'm currently talking to 3 of them. Of course, i make it clear i'm total bottom and delineate what that means. 'Perhaps you don't encounter those particular Tops because you present as versatile and don't attract them. Maybe you don't get approached to get fucked as often because you post a dick pic and state you are versatile. And i'm guessing you have thought of this, you are good about qualifying bias and not being able to prove the postulation you make. Even ErowWired's pole is not really scientific, and the sampling, so far, is pretty small. i have been curious enough that i posted a penis pic on one of my more active profiles today. Didn't change any of my profile verbiage though, i still present as total bottom and do not want to attract men interested in cock. As far as i'm concerned, i still don't have a "cock,' though i'm not delusional, i know i have a penis. i was married 31 years (to a woman) because of religious conditioning. Trying to be in the top role all those years solidified in me that i'm at the far end of the bottom spectrum, i doubt all the discussion in the world is going to make me versatile or get me back into the mind set that i must offer, use or present my penis to/for anyone lol, so you haven't sold me on that one. i'm not looking for "casual sex," i'm looking to get fucked by a Top who wants to fuck me as much as i want to get fucked. i have turned down more than one versatile because i was not convinced THEY would be satisfied just fucking me. And i always ask/question any versatile guy who approaches me, point blank, if they are sure they would be satisfied just fucking a total bottom. i would truly rather go without than have casual or mechanical sex with a guy who i knew was just nominally into it, or worse, disappointed that ti don't flip.

i 'hear' frustration in many of your posts, frustration with Portland (Pdx) and frustration with men who identify as bottom or total bottom. That may be me inferring tone where there is none, so please set me straight... well, no, don't do that, how bout just clarify where i am mis-reading you if i am. my impression from reading your posts over time is that those of us who identify as total bottoms (and bottoms?) are simply making a choice, that all men are wired versatile, can and should choose that for the sake of the gay Community. Again, this may be totally or partly just me inferring, but i usually feel general disdain for total bottoms/total bottoms when i read your posts. i don't get the impression it's a purposeful effort on your part, just born out of what strikes me as your belief that bottoms are just making a selfish choice vs just trying to live authentically as they are? Am i right that you think all gay guys are really versatile and the position they choose is just choice? i am honestly not trying to put words in your mouth here, i'm just stating my perception, which i know could be way off. That said, i think your theory has a sort of sense to it, but i also think it's an over reach maybe colored by your own bias? i think of how long GH sex has been around. i've done GH sex a lot prior to the pandemic, and it's pretty clear cut. Offer cock or ass, the other person either wants it or not, not a lot of, if any, discussion. Not a lot of visual either, unless one puts their cock through the hole. Your posts do make me think and consider though. i have a FB who i adore, He's the Latino i usually write about in the "...your last load..." thread. He's always Topped me, He's never asked me to fuck Him. Lately He's wanted to suck on me though, even though He knows i'm not really wanting that. i let Him, and even give Him positive feed back when He's sucking me. Feels good enough to my body that i get hard, but i cannot imagine summing that way, it's just very mechanical for me. To me, mechanical sex is not sex, it lacks connection that is really important to me. If that was all i had with Him, i wouldn't hook with Him. So i have a mental work around where i'm okay with Him sucking me as long as He doesn't want to make me cum that way. The last couple of times He hasn't asked to suck me, and He told me once that He's "not a cum swallower." i'd find it hot if He just wanted to suck me to get me horny for Him and HIs cock, not to make me cum. So, i'm not opposed to being touched or sucked, it is more to do with why the guy is doing it. That's where one of your and another post got me thinking about this. i actually like being edged if the intent is just to make me horny, especially if the guy i'm with is making that clear. So i can get how a bottom, even a total bottom, can display a pic of his penis, even though for me (and apparently a lot of other bottoms) it's counter intuitive. sorry, this went long

i appreciate your response. i really get that i tend to want a more complex connection, not only with you, but with other men as well. i think your comment underlines my belief that all of our comments are examples of us all being individual and on a sexual spectrum. Sometimes we are close enough on that line to connect, intersect, other times we are not. If you were to read my profiles, not just on a dating site, but even on a hook up site they'd be longer and more detailed that the average profile. i present more of myself because i hope for more from a Man just His physical cock. Do i have the slutty whore side to me that just want's to get fucked by any man who wants to? Why yes, yes i do lol. But when i want that, i tend to go someplace where i can get it, and to me internet hook up sites do not meet that need. They used to for me. i think both me and online hook up have evolved though. Online has become an environ where many have discovered they can be assholes (not the good kind) and flakes, and those guys seem to really affect a quick hook up. So, i reserve online for the "i want a deeper connection" part of me. In that context, for me, a "dick pic" sends the wrong message because i am not just canvasing for a quick fuck where i will take whatever i can get. i do think my point is valid... for some on the spectrum. i also think the comments that evoked my further thought and consideration as valid as well. They may not represent how i am or feel, but they definitely represent part of the playing field where we all look to connect in one way our another.

About 10 minutes ago. Today was the last day of my rotation at work and it was a tough one. i was at the end of my shift and in a patients room and felt my phone vibrate. Didn't think anything about it, but when i got in my car 40 minutes later i saw it was my FB who had called. He usually texts and if i'm not available right then, He usually does something else. i don't usually hook on a work night, but i'm off tomorrow, and even though i'm exhausted, i'm also horny and wanting a Man inside of me. i have discovered that when i get a Mans cock and orgasm inside of me, i don't need to have one of my own. But if i go too long without having a Man and His orgasm inside of me, i end up breaking the tension of need by jacking off. i'm pretty sure i could go on indefinitely without having my own orgasm by receiving a Mans into me.... honestly, it's what i always crave, want. So even though i was horny and tired, i douched when i showered after getting home, and texted to my FB: "sorry i missed You, was at work." He texted back: "free by chance? please?" i was so glad, i'm grateful for Him. We are grateful of each other. He fucked me sweetly and hard and i feel so fucking good. Both horny and sated at the same time.

i don’t know which turns me on more, the mind reading or the desire to possess. …i’m going with possess, that gives me a deeply erotic wild feeling I can’t define

Reading through some of the responses has me thinking. i too get turned on by a Mans ass, even though i have no desire to penetrate or fuck it. So why couldn't the reverse be true? That a Top Man could get turned on my my penis and not want to touch it? Several mention Men coming right our and telling them they want to see a bottoms cock while they fuck them. i can see there's an angle with some Men who want it obvious that they are fucking a man, maybe even a dominance thing along the lines that: "yeah, we both are men, and both have cocks, but i'm the dominant One here because i'm doing the fucking." I.e., they want the visual and reminder of another man submitting to Their penetration and fucking... and that is a big part of what they are attracted to in the first place? Being able to dominate another man, not just fuck him?

More like devolution, I can’t imagine reveling in oral only, oral is foreplay to me

I have also encountered guys in the past who insisted on dick pics, yet claimed to be Top. I think it goes back to the spectrum reality that we are all on. That said, I haven’t but a penis pic on a hook up site for years. For me there’s an energy or aura associated with a Man who doesn’t think of me as having a “cock” that I am drawn to as much getting bred. If he shows interest in me having a “cock”, I have the wrong Top. Anonymous can get around those discussions, so no doubt I’ve been fucked by that kind of Top, but not consciously. If it becomes relational at all, if they want cock, I pass and wish them the best. I don’t begrudge anyone their want, I accept I’m not what every man wants, but I want to connect as deeply as I can, and I’m not being true to myself to pretend to have something that I don’t

You read my mind

To me if a bottom has a cock pic, they are more versatile or versatile bottom. I think it’s just part of the spectrum reality, some of us are total bottom and don’t want our penis touched, but there varying degrees of Top and bottom in between

idk, it mystifies me too. i've gotten to the place where i don't even think of myself, or feel like i have a "cock." i'm not deluded. i know i have a penis, but to me it's not a "cock" or "dick," because i am not wired to use it as such. i think of a "cock" as way more than a physical organ. i see it as part of a Man that He uses to penetrate, fuck, orgasm, inseminate, possess,__________, another with. i don't have one of those. i'm wired in a complimentary way for a Man, i e. i have a hole and place for Him and His cock. To express that visually, i often share this pic where i have my penis tucked. It's not as though i don't want what i have, it's just different. Though i am not a trans person, and have no desire to be a woman, sexually my organs are more like a woman's than a Mans. my penis is functionally more like a clitoris and my anus like a vagina. i don't use those words, they don't fit either, slang terms like "pussy" or "clitty" can work, depending on who is using them, but i don't have a "cock" or "dick."