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i think there are guys who do that, i.e., hook up and then have guilt or something. It's sad, i know what you mean about loving to make a Top happy... i feel sad if i don't, that's such a big part of it for me.

Wow, i think you were really sweet. You kissed him and thanked him, what nice guy! For me, it doesn't happen often, usually at an Adult Store where a guy obviously doesn't want to cum, just wants to be sucked. For me, it's not just the cum, i want to take a Tops pleasure and orgasm into me, if it feels like he is bored, i lose my desire.

i think this has been touched on in other threads, but i don't think it has a dedicated thread of it's own, so thought i'd start one 🙂 Most of my experience with piss has been from Tops pissing up my ass, which is probably my favorite type of insemination from a Top on so many levels. i'm both a physical and psychological bottom, and am sexually wired in such a way that i want/need another guys presence in me. Of course, that is pretty typical of a bottom. All bottoms want cock, many more want cum, then some want piss too... and other still (waves hand) want pretty much whatever comes out of their Tops body deposited in their body by their Top. To me, that is the gay version of insemination and impregnation. On topic, one of the ways i have fanatsized about a Top putting His piss in me is with catheters. i have two particular fantasies i'd love to have as realities. One is a Top placing a catheter in my penis to empty my bladder of urine, then He attaches my catheter to one that He has placed in His cock. Both catheters have valves on them (i have this set up in my bathroom cabinet, i'm a nurse lol). After He attaches our catheters together, He then opens the valves and empties His bladder full of piss into mine, then closes the valves and disconnects, leaving me with a bladder full of His piss. The second is sleeping with a Top who has places a catheter in His cock and then connected it to a tube that He's fed deep into my rectum and gut. He uses an inflatable enema nozzle in me so there will be no leaks and then we sleep connected like that through the night. He has a valve and He can either open it during the night any time He needs to piss, or He can just leave it open and as His body produces piss during the night, i become His bladder.

i appreciate HardaddyMA's comments. It's ironic some of the religious cultures that judge us for things like D/s relationships are control freaks that are really responding from a place of being out-dommed. For me, piss is a vast topic, but then, i'm thoroughly into mind fuck. To me, mind fuck is delving into the psychology behind what turns us on and learning how to exercise the deepest parts of our sexuality. The mind and feelings are a huge part of our sexuality, but we are not taught to see, let alone understand, those parts of us. Certain cultural influences have made them "dirty" or "disgusting" or "taboo." The first time a guy pissed inside of me he related the experience as feeling "like a long orgasm." How many times have you been in a restroom and heard a guys deep sigh while taking a piss? As a bottom, one of the hottest parts of getting fucked is hearing my Tops sigh as He cums. i hear a similar sigh from guys taking a piss. Guys are wonderfully sexual, we can sexualize just about anything lol. Having said that, there's a lot of scientific evidence suggesting there are sex pheromones in our urine and sweat (not enough research has been done to reach definitive conclusions). In one study gay guys had a similar response as women to a guys scent. Male animals use piss to mark their territory, so the implications of that can be far reaching in a relationship with another guy. Personally, one of the most powerful things a Top can do is piss in me. When i hold His piss in and absorb it, i can smell His scent in my own urine when i void, which is evidence of impregnation. Impregnation is not just about making a baby. In this case, it's about one guy putting a part of Himself, something His body has made into the body of another guy and making it a part of him. You can do that with piss. A lot of guys are really into the idea of absorbing another guys cum and, thereby absorbing his "DNA." There is no evidence that happens, but there is easy evidence that i absorb a Tops piss when He releases it into me. To me, the mind fuck implications are endless and "piss play" isn't play at all.

i honestly don't get the association between drinking and sex. Does drinking make him hornier? i have a Dom friend who likes giving booty bumps (i.e. wine mixed with water in an enema) to make His bottom more pliable. You have to know what you're doing with that because the alcohol is absorbed directly that way and you can over do it and get alcohol poisoning. To me, "abstinence" (from cumming) is the best way to make a guy pliable. In a D/s relationship, chastity is a logical choice to my way of thinking. That way You have complete control over his penis and how and when he cums. Orgasm prevention will keep him horny, since cumming is what relieves horniness. Controlling orgasm is a fairly simple and direct way to keep a guy horny, but the other side of the coin is stimulating desire. i think an advantage of being in an actual D/s relationship is the journey of getting to know each other personally. We are all individuals and there are no generic hot spots (i.e., what turns us on), we have to get to know and learn those in each other. i see "hot spots" as our individual sexual needs and desires, i think they often manifest as "kinks." For instance, some guys penis is "wired to" their nips. So, locking a guys penis in chastity, then stimulating his nips would do two things: make him horny by stimulating him, and keep him horny by preventing release. You can then take that horniness and use it to control and mold him, redirect it from his penis to his hole, for instance, and take him through the process of disassociating his pleasure and release from his penis to his hole. "Nips" are just an example, they're not a hot spot for everyone, so you have to find his. To me, those "hot spots" represent places for collaring. i think the most powerful collars are finding the deep psychological kinks in a guy an learning how to collar and put a leash on it. It doesn't necessarily have to be a physical thing to have a sexually arrousing affect. For instance, some guys are deeply aroused by humiliation. Again, it's all individual, but most of us, Dom, sub, Top, bottom, are dying to know and be known in an intimate way, once there is a bond of trust, the other bonds can follow.

Ditto those who are factually stating that this is blatant sexual harassment and invasion of privacy. You are absolutely right, who you chose to share your sexuality with is your business. Most businesses have policy on sexual harassment, even if they are too small to have a HR department. A harassment law suit can really wreak havoc on a business, they don't want it. You are protected by Federal law and either way you slice it, the company stands to lose if they don't handle this properly. Since you are concerned about outing your self, report it anonymously to human resources if your company has such a department, or to someone in management.

Idk, i like politics in places like Sweden or Holland better. To me, American politics seem generally heteronormative. i wonder how we'd be if we hadn't been influenced by the dominant culture and internalized so much from it? Mostly it seems to me that parties don't rule so much as the money behind them and the people who buy them. To me, politics is largely a facade.

Just got an ad for CBD suppositories in my email from Fort Troff. i confess, i had to google "CBD" . The FT version is a suppository (which anything that goes into my ass pretty much automatically turns me on) that is supposed to "relax your ass. Take XL cocks and more." i'm mixed about stuff like this. On the one hand, the idea of being a more capable bottom is always appealing to me. On the other hand, i'm not one for using drug enhancements personally. On the other hand, i've always had fantasies of Tops who secretly do things to me, not damaging or hurtful things, but control (it's complicated lol). So, the idea of a Top slipping one of these things into me without me really knowing what He's done is a turn on, but it's not something i'd do to myself. So i guess it's not what's in the suppository that's a turn on to me, but the idea that a Top would be looking for ways to control my hole and make it His for HIs pleasure.... As an aside, stuff like numbing agents, and now this, make me wonder about their potential for damage because you don't have the normal signals to slow down? The other aside is, i always wonder how it will affect the Top? E.g a numbing agent may numb my hole, but it can also numb the cock that fucks it, i wonder if CBD might also affect the cock that is fucking the hole of the bottom who has one in?

When i read your post i wonder what qualifies as "Men" for you?

What a great question!! i don't know that there is a simple or complete answer i can give, just bits and pieces. i've always had a vivid imagination, so i find myself editing porn in my mind, wishing they'd done it this way or that. my favorite 'porn' is simply amateur vids guys have made of actual sex experiences. For me, the best pro porn is the stuff that manages to look 'real' vs trying to be hot. i love hidden camera stuff. We hear the theories that porn raises our expectations about sex to an unrealistic level, and i'm sure that can be true in some instances, but i don't think that is true about everyone who watches porn. For me, it's usually been the opposite. I.e., i look for porn that can approximate what i imagine or want. But i rarely go for the professional stuff because i know that it's contrived. For me, the flawed vids of real life experience are more of a turn on because i know that can really happen, it's not a production or make believe, just an example of what can be.

i think the reasons behind attraction can be hard to parse out. It has really helped me being a nurse because all i do is take care of people outside the norm. Part of my job is to examine and assess each and every patient i have. i do an admit, or go into a perfect strangers room first thing in the morning and after the pleasantries of introduction, i explain i need to look them over and ask them questions and ask them permission to do so. It's a hospital, and no one says "no," asking is more of a polite formality. One of the first questions of my assessment is: "when was the last time you had a bowel movement?" That's part of what i refer to when i say my job has "conditioned me" against feeling awkward with stuff that is 'normally' socially awkward or not spoken of. People with disabilities who have been living with them for awhile have experienced enough reactions from people that they can probably fit us into groups. There's the 'sympathetic" who "feel sorry" for them. Or some of us go the opposite direction and try to pretend and act like the disability is not there. The truth is, most kinds of different make us feel awkward because we don't have experience or a frame of reference on how to deal, act or respond, so we flounder and that makes the situation even more awkward. That 'awkward' experience may be unusual for us, but the person who has something different about them deals with that awkward response with a huge percentage of the people they encounter (read: "all the time"). Their "norm" is people being awkward around them, it's new to us, not to them. Yet, our response is to often respond presumptuously. For example, insisting on helping, or the opposite, ignoring them assuming they don't want help. Both are presumptuous. People with disabilities are just like us in more ways than not. Just like us, they appreciate when someone cares enough to ask how they feel or think or what they want or need. Just like us, they're the expert on what they need and want. We often make a disability more than it is, transferring the fact that we don't know what to do onto the other person. Chances are, they've been living with their disability awhile and they are a lot less disabled by it than we are.

The gay community has some fascinating variety, eh? i don't think there is a "right" or "wrong" approach to this, but individual. Honestly, it comes across as insecure to me, like the Top is threatened if they are upset by a bottoms hard penis. i realize that my own emotional response is just that, "my own." There's something in me that is aroused when a Top makes the differentiation between me the receiver and Him the penetrator... but i'm all bottom with some sub thrown in. There are so many variations of guys taking cock. Many are versatile and like to breed too, and they do indeed have a cock to my way of thinking. And, there are plenty of bottoms who don't identify as sub, and prolly most of them think of themselves as having cocks... infinite, awesome variety. i don't think we are binary and wish we'd resist the centricity of putting everyone in the context of our personal needs and desires. i should have clarified that the guys i often approach are more Top with some Dom thrown in. i love bottom and versatile guys. Fuck, i love men. but i don't approach either for sex because i know myself and know personally i crave a particular type guy and my favorite is one who doesn't think i have a cock. But i want everyone to know, that's me, not a right or wrong way of doing this. 🙂

A "useless, flaccid, soft" penis is not something i want to confer on myself, but an effect that my Top has on me. i've had a few Tops who turned me on so much with Their attitude and words that i got rock hard, and they didn't miss a beat saying: "... isn't that nice, your clit is engorged at the prospect of being bred." In their mind, i don't have a "cock," so whether or not it gets hard is immaterial, because soft or hard, it's never a cock and always "useless" as a penetrative organ. Mind fuck. Matter of fact assumption on their part that i simply don't have a cock, it doesn't matter how things look. Total confidence on their part makes what is between my legs a non issue so matter that appearance of things. And it works, my brain and emotions go right along with His power and control.

i'm a critical care nurse and my experience has conditioned me. i'm aware, but it doesn't really matter. Last time i was in Palm Spring i hooked with a guy who didn't have legs and His cock had been refashioned, but it still worked just fine. He was Top and we'd arranged an anonymous scenario where He was going to come in my open door and breed me... which is a pretty common scenario with me. When He got to the hotel, He needed help getting His chair over the threshold of the room, so anonymity was no longer a factor. We ended up kissing, which i rarely do, but He was definitely kissable to me and i ended up kissing and touching Him everywhere, including what was left of His legs (about 4 or 5 inches). He was hot and passionate and so responsive to my mouth and touch, i got very turned on. At one point, He said that most people would not touch his legs and that it felt good. We talked openly, and i asked if i didn't know. i prefer guys who don't consider themselves 'perfect' because i know that i am not. i don't even try when a guy has an attitude that they are way too hot, i want mutual need and desire.

He may like the idea of owning and controlling your hole, watching and controlling who ever breeds His hole.

Damn yes. i met a guy on CL when i lived in KY. He became a FB and we got together about once a week for a year and a half before we both moved away. He introduced Himself as liking to give massage and asked if i wanted one. We wrote back and forth for awhile, and He had me totally wanting it. Last minute He dropped that he wanted me waiting naked and blindfolded on my bed, ass up and door open. This wasn't a stretch for me because that's how the ad read that i'd placed, except for the blindfold. Though the words were never used, He was my first long term experience with a Dom. He used massage, the sensory deprivation of the blindfold and an ongoing monologue to get me into a suggestible place, and He was really good at it. It was about 6 months before i realized what He was doing, but i was hooked by Him from the start. He was very patient, slow and purposeful and always got what He wanted. His long term goal was to "remold my hole into a puaay"... He did that too. i don't know for sure, but i think He was purposefully using hypnotic techniques.

i fucking love this advice, the only thing that would make it better for me is to ask your Top to give you a ruined orgasm to help train and condition you to meet their desire.

Are you saying that You in particualar are turned off by guys with wives/girlfriends? Why is that? Pretty much opposite to what the OP feels. Personally, i can be attracted to a Bi guy or gay... not sure about wanting a straight guy though, because that seems conflicted, or just physical at best?

interesting question. i confess i love this dynamic with a Top where they minimize my penis. One way i and certain Tops have found around this is they never refer to what i have as a "cock," it's either a generic "penis" or some have called it a "clit." "Clit" has a deeper psychological effect (for me anyway) and it makes the distinction, even though i am not the least bit fem... actually not being "fem" makes it even more powerful for me. Talk about penetrating me and some forms of affectionate humilation get me hard as a rock, being penetrated makes me soft though and talk of me using my penis never gets me hard. So, the psychology behind calling it a "clit" (for both parties) is it's little, not a cock and refers to a penetrative part of anatomy. Yeah, it gets engorged when excited, but it's an encorged clit, not a cock. it gets excited for a whole different reason because it really isn't a "cock."

my sigmoid is pretty shallow, so most guys who breed me end up breeding my sigmoid, and once it's there i can keep it. If it doesn't go that deep, i am still able to somehow pull it in, not sure how that works, but i don't leak. i think leaking pussy is sexy as fuck, but i also hate the thought of losing any of a Tops cum, so i guess i've just learned how to retain and am lucky my sigmoid is shallow for retention. Butt plugs. i've never considered butt plugs to be a way of keeping cum or piss in. For me, the effect of a butt plug is mostly psychological. i like if a Top uses one on me for whatever HIs reason may be, but i don't use them on myself as a rule. When i read that what you wrote: "...use a butt plug, but that doesn't feel good and i dunno how you walk and do anything with one in," it immediately made me wish for a Top who'd put a butt plug in me... for exactly the reasons you state. For me, the butt plug would become a collar and leash for me that i'd associate with the Top.

What CumBustion said. i use an 18" and it helps, but it hasn't completely modified me. All of us are a little different down there. i happen to have a fairly deep curve, so hitting it meets more resistance and can cause more pain. For me, the advantage of having that deep curve is retention, i can hold onto a Tops cum and/or piss without losing it...and i love to keep and absorb what a Guy puts into me, so i like that. It also makes it more of a challenge to clean out initially, A lot really depends on the Top. Some Tops are either ignorant or don't care. If they have a long enough cock to hit my curve, i just sort of squirm and take it. Other more experienced or knowledgable Tops love to pop that "second hole" and love the process of opening and getting in to fuck deep.

mine is definitely changed ever since a Dom Top made it His goal to change it, which i love that i can associate it with Him and His desire. mine is a slit and not a pucker anymore, but not a gaping hole (though i love the way that looks on guys). Unlike some, i like lube, lots of lube or cum, either works, but i love sloppy and a noisy, sloppy sounding hole when any Top fucks. i love it when a Top loads my hole up with lube if it's not already sloppy with cum. One of my favorite feelings is the since of immediacy i get when i have to go to the bathroom. i don't leak, but i have to squeeze my inner muscles sometimes to hold stuff in. i like it because it reminds me that my hole is no longer designed primarily for waste removal or retention, but is designed for easy access, penetration and fucking. To me, that since of urgency is my body reminding me that it wants to be empty and ready for a Man to penetrate. it's also got a little bit of a humiliation edge to it that's hard to put words on, knowing any guy can look at it and know that i love to be a place for a Man to penetrate and release His pleasure into.

i know, right? "Verbal" doesn't have to be mean or abusive. The most effective Dom i have ever sucked Dommed me by continually coaching me to take HIs massive, thick cock deeper into my throat. He was totally positive, but relentless, saying things like: "that's it, just around the curve, deeper...." When i would do it, He'd gush "Good boy, I'm so proud of you, arent't you proud of yourself?" Like He was talking to a little kid or a pet dog, it was subtle humiliation. He had me in an awkward positon, but had me look Him in the eyes. i was tearing from gagging, and my nose was running from it too. He'd ask me questions He knew i couldn't answer with my mouth full, but still expected some type of response. The overall effect was i adored Him. He had me so verbally Dommed, He collared my inner cocksucker and made me HIs.

i think the term "faggot" is fluid. For me, that fluidity has boundaries, for instance, it can only refer to a guy who takes cock, not who gives it. To me, a faggot is a guy who needs/wants to be physically, emotionally and intellectually penetrated by another guy. A faggot is the receptive one in a gay or bi relationship (i use "relationship loosely here, even a hook up is a brief "relationship"). Thus, the fluidity. For instance, a versatile guy may have times when he is a faggot whereas a total bottom who would be fine if he didn't even have a penis is getting more towards "total faggot." Anyway, that's how i see it.

i think it’s more a mental than physical phenomenon. I don’t think it depends on the bottom as much as it does the Top. A sweet ass is a thing to behold, and feel, but i believe most of this has to do with the mental and emotional disposition of the Top.