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Thanks for that explanation, topblkmale. I too enjoy the depth of character you refer to, assuming it's more than a 1-n-done. I see spirituality as separate from religiosity, which contrivance I'm not interested in. But a spiritual man, whose belief-system doesn't include dependence on magic, is always most welcome. Then again, I never ask guys about those attributes in the fuckjoints; it's only after getting to know a guy somewhat that their depth of character (or lack of it) becomes apparent.

In that sense, of course they had to know what would happen. It's not quite the same, but it's similar to the "totentanz" the trumpanzee's are busy with. It makes no sense, none of it is thought through, with only the immediate shiver of delight when one side or the other manages to pull off a good, hard "kill". Now we see the latest in this tit-for-tat - Yahya Sinwar's murder - which some would say is utterly Just and deserving - but that's not up to me. I will say that the cycle of killing on a "tit-for-tat" basis lends itself to a truly endless cycle of violence and death. Worse, that applies in a somewhat more subtle way to us, here in the US. The actual acts of vengeance aren't as - well - "permanent", but the principle remains the same.

I'm sorry to know that Slammer intimidates you. There's really nothing to be concerned about; I've been going for years - I can't remember even one time some guy got violent with another guy. There are employees around that make sure nothing untoward happens (but they're "busy' too sometimes). Pigs can be dirrrrrty, but they're also mostly decent guys. Hope you reconsider !!! In any case though, have a grrrrrrrrreat time here in Ft. Lauderdale, and get back home with a big fat filthy smile.

Do you mean you actually ask guys about their religious beliefs before you fuck them? And if the answer isn't to your liking, you ditch them?

And, thanks for that link, PozBearWI ....

That's true, of course. What isn't all that clear however, is to what extent the IDF is dominated by the PM. I find it disquieting that the US has just finished a bombing run with our Stealth bombers. As I see it, that's definitely a substantial step along the path of getting sucked into this conflict. The salt in the wound is the fact that Nettie is clearly side-stepping input from the President, in favor of staying in power. Obviously, the bombers wouldn't have been sent had the President not signed off on it, and he hasn't said anything (other than via Austin) about it. We have garrisons of US troops all over the Levant, including in Yemen. Expanding the war to attacking the Houthi's (by proxy -the US) is hardly any progress towards ending the conflict. I'd like to hear a little more from Austin about this.

Interesting observation, and thanks for stating it. I'm unfamiliar with any details though - do you have any? Point me to where some of that is spelled out? Thanks.

There are roughly twice as many Jewish Americans as Palestinian. I hate to be crass, but ..... if the numbers are as tight as the media says they are, who knows ..... I definitely think she's a peacemaker, as opposed to a partisan figure in that conflict. I'm just glad I'm not a politician.

Submissive, sexually - but willing and able to discuss issues of the day vigorously. Milquetoast is definitely not on my list.

By all means give Ramrod a chance. Just know that it's not the fuckjoint it used to be. I'd reinforce 50latinos' suggestion. Give Eagle a try. And, if you're here in Ft. L. any night between Thurs and Sunday (inclusive), you need to get over to Slammer. It's by far the best fuckjoint in town, imho.

Agreed. At this point in his devolvement into dementia, I doubt anyone thinks the Orange Comb-Over thinks about the Middle East at all. He'll take money from literally anyone, tell them anything to get it, and forget it immediately after. Just because he said whatever a minute ago doesn't mean he'll live up to it a minute into the future. As to Harris' position, I think she's holding back. She knows she can't be seen to be at major variance with Biden's position on the question, at least in any substantial way. She doesn't want to lie either, so she just murmurs something mushy and changes the subject. I'll bet when Jan 20 rolls around, she'll kick Nettie in the balls though. I agree as well that Biden could have handled all of this better. When the first "you do X and I'll do Y" fell through, I'm surprised that Biden kept up the charade to the extent he has. While the major media says every so often that they've been "friends for many years", I can't help but wonder. That said, if Nettie is going to do something really dramatic, it has to be before Jan 20th. I don't think Harris will accept aggression, let alone underwrite it. She's more interested in figuring out a workable solution resulting in (at least semi) permanent peace. Oddly, some of the guys on BZ think that Biden is shoveling money at the Israeli's. That's hardly the case. The Israeli Military isn't getting truckloads of money; they're getting a "credit", against which they can draw for US military equipment. It's not like the US is paying them to buy military equipment from other countries.

The OP implies that we weren't "born" to love pigsex with our brothers, and that something "happened" somewhere along the line that "turned" us into raw pigs. While that may be true to some degree, I think that the capacity to love m2m pigsex is an "inborn" gift, that many (maybe most) men are devoid of. Not only this gift, but any understanding or tolerance of what they don't possess themselves. This could lead to repression of those who possess (and practice) the gift, like any other jealousy, but I think that cultural conditioning plays a big part in whether a guy can accept his nature, and become a sexual pig or not. That said, "cultural conditioning" is something many of us grew up with, yet here we are - celebrating our love of pigsex with our (virtual) brothers. Thus, cultural conditioning is something that can be unlearned, and allow the inborn need for wanton celebration of our natural selves to become a perfectly natural practice - remarkable only to those who either were not "gifted" in this way, or who haven't yet learned to accept others as they are. All of which is to say that WE'RE the "normal" ones .... we're the ones who are free.

Welcome, new guys ... We'll be watching for more from you !!

This was pointed out in some other, similar thread ... Don't forget that when hiv appeared, almost everybody simply stopped fucking. I don't mean slacked off - I mean stopped. Period. While guys that had paired off at least had their other halves to have sex with (after testing, of course), single guys either bagged it (not all that many resorted to condoms - the normal, backroom-kind of sex just dried up seemingly overnight) it or didn't have sex at all. Lots of guys didn't dare trust condoms (they can break, obviously). It was the worst for guys that were single, and had no one to get through the hellscape with. "Having sex" went from Nirvana to Hell-vana, and very, very quickly, unless a guy was in a closd, trusting relationship. One guy from our neighborhood simply laid down and died right in our driveway. One of the gay newspapers went out of business (they carried all the announcements of "Celebration of Life" services) because no one wanted to pick it up, go through all the pages of horror anymore. That kind of mortality really kills the fun of wanton breeding. For most of us that experienced it, those scars have crusted over by now, but we'll never forget, either.

I too adore a relatively loose Hole, but how it gets that way is important too. It's reasonable to assume that a Hole that's loose has taken a lot of Cocks in the immediate past, and some of them have pumped their load up there. When I kneel down to eat a Hole, I can tell right away whether I'm the first of the night or the 21st of the night. I know perfectly well that not every Cock pumps Sperm in every Hole it ruts in, but there's no mistaking when a guy sticks his tongue up there and tastes loads off previous Cocks mixed with the taste of the Hole itself. If any guy thinks poppers offer a "rush", try shoving your tongue up a richly-bred Hole. You'll never bother with the little brown bottle again.

I have utmost respect for folks who can (and do) offer this kind of in-depth information, let alone actual experience. Just reading this makes me light-headed - literally. May Whatever bless and keep those who take care of the rest of us. Merely a tiny cut on a finger or something makes me vomacious and light-headed.

My pleasure - you'll have a pervectly filthy time of it !!!

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Bottom Jim, I endorse 50latinos suggestions. There are also two bathhouses, one (probably the nicest one I've ever been to) on Broward Blvd, (which is zero-hundred N/S). Ask the Googler about it. There's another over in Oakland Park, Clubhouse II. It's a little bit on the run-down side, on a major thoroughfare (Oakland Park Blvd), and things can get downright drrrrrrty over there. He's also spot-on about Slammer - it's a "must-do" when you're here. Google it too. I think they must have a "pig-meter" somewhere near the entrance, so only guys that really need pigsex get in. There's a bar (but you have to bring your own liquor, they don't have a license), and the bartender will put your name on it, serve it to you when you come up for air. Pigsex takes place everywhere in the joint - there's a (very) darkroom, an orgy room, two areas with elevated galleries where guys stick their Cocks through gh's for waiting cocksuckers on the ground floor, quite a number of booths w/gh's, slings in public areas so every guy can watch, a smaller darkroom by the fireplace, on and on. There are 3 private, fenced parking lots, in case you rent a car. Around 11 pm, the lots tend to fill up. Slammer is my favorite fuckjoint in town. If you choose to stay at Inn Leather, and you message me, I'll send you driving directions from there to the action spots. I.L. is convenient to the airport, but not any of the pigsex neighborhoods. I recommend I.L. - It's reasonably priced, clean, and fun. Locals often buy day-passes and go down there for a day of whoring - all the rooms have slings in view of the windows. So a guy in in the sling taking loads is clearly visible to guys on the pathways around the buildings, they can look in, and if you leave the door to the room cracked open, they'll come in and join, There's also guys fucking anywhere on the premises, the pool (occasionally in it), the paths around the buildings, etc. Sadly, I wouldn't bother with Ramrod - which was the best pigbar in town for decades. Now, it's just a neighborhood bar, and all the bar-breeding action has moved up to Wilton Manors and the Eagle. You may want to "uber" it to Eagle - parking can be a bitch.

It was shortly after I went away to school. One fine Sunday I was sitting in the main lounge of the dorm, reading the Chicago Tribune, waiting for someone. The listings for movies currently showing started with full-page ads, followed by fractionals (1/2 pg, 1/4 pg, etc), and ended with the inch-rate (i.e. 1inch, 2 inch, and so on) porn ads, first in the city, and then out in the burbs. After all the "legit" ads came the ads for the porn theatres. There was an ad for the Varsity Theatre in the city, near north side, across the street from Bughouse Square on N Clark street. The caption on the Varsity ad said "XXX Action, All Male Cast". I was stunned. I didn't know there was such a thing. I'd been to a ratty old theatre in downtown Rock Island with the frat guys to see really awful (straight) porn, but had no idea there was such a thing as gay porn. I cut all my classes the next day and drove up to Chicago, found the theatre, parked and went in. It was dark, there were sleazy characters slinking around, the "porn" wouldn't even earn that name today - it was absolutely awful - but I went into the theatre, sat down and thought "now what"? Being the youngest guy (by decades) in the joint, I looked around at the handful of guys watching the movie. There was exactly one about my age, and he had already zeroed in on me. As soon as he saw me looking at him, he got up and came to sit next to me. He felt my Cock, I felt his. He pulled his out, I pulled mine out. He bent over and sucked my Cock, and I thought to myself "you asshole - you drove all the fukkin way up here to figure this shit out - now suck the damn dick". I don't recall what I thought it might taste like - I'm not sure the idea had ever entered my mind - but when I bent over to suck that kid's cock, I was shocked to discover that all it tasted like was flesh. Like any other part of skin. The vultures were closing in already, he sucked me off and I sucked him off rather quickly. I liked it, and started the process of becoming the man I was born to be.

I don't think you need to apologize to anyone for telling the truth about yourself. Whatever it is you like/dislike, it is what it is, and that's all that needs to be said.

<filthy grin> We're just a couple of pigs, you and I .... and that's pretty damn cool in my book !!!

I voted for random. Regulars are fine - I have nothing against regular fb's, but once I've fucked a guy, I already know what I need to know. There's a "regular" at Slammer, but it's not a guy I know at all. He's always in the same position in the darkroom, and I always rut in his Hole first. I've gone back to Breed his Hole many times after spending an hour or three on other Holes. He started recognizing my Cock shortly after I first fucked him - 2, maybe 3 years ago? - and since then usually says something like "there you are - gimme that Cock", but he's never turned around to look at me. Guys I don't know - only "know" via my Cock - are the most fun, as I see it. Every guy's Hole is different, and at least rutting in different Holes seems more exciting, more committed to wanton sexual lusts - one after another after another. I just love it.

My other half and I had to travel quite a bit for our business, and we always planned time to check out the local fuckjoints. I remember each of us had to promise to go to one fuckjoint the other guy really wanted to hit, even if both didn't. Later, I made it a point to get to Berlin for Folsom, attended IML for many years, but that wasn't really a "trip" - it was just downtown.

Me either. It's not that I judge them, I don't. Everyone should be able to be who they need to be, and without shallow judgements from others. That, however, doesn't require that I fuck them. All that's required of me (or anyone) is decent manners.