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Wellllllllllll ..... those were the days when guys wore their hair long .... so the horns didn't show 😁

I've been thinking this one over, and I suppose it started in undergrad. One of my pledge brothers needed some help with pedaling a Vierne piece (the infamous Finale) and I agreed to help him. Went over to the concert hall where a tubby old Moller lived in the wind chests, and we started working out the best toe/heel arrangements, when my buddy started smiling, looking at me. He wasn't particularly good-looking, more sexy than anything, I guess. The pedaling practice stopped, and the world of sucking Cock opened up. We sucked each other off, and I liked how his Sperm tasted. It's not my very favorite sexual act, but I'm not against it either; I've sucked off plenty of Cocks, and I like the experience of a hot load being pumped into my mouth. Later on though, I came to realize that eating a well-fucked Hole was even better by far. And that was the first time I'd actually done such a fan-fukkin-tastic thing !!!

"Seamier" is a colloquialism that means less accepted, more filthy, looked-down-on, corruptions. For instance, pumping loads up other men's raw Holes. Or sucking their Cocks off. For some of us, the "seamier" the better, right? From the Oxford, "sordid and disreputable".

Sunday night. The NFL was disappointing, and I decided to hit Slammer on a Sunday night - for the first time. The West parking lot was closed. Bad sign. The primary lot was half empty - worse sign. Went in, and the place was 3/4 empty, if not more. Not one guy in the orgy room. A grand total of 1 guy on the Cocksuckers catwalk. A handful meandering around the hallways. Only the darkroom had guys at close-quarters in there, as usual. Got the job done and left in half an hour, when I usually spend 4,5 times that amount of time there. Sadly, I don't recommend Sunday nights at Slammer.

Baretop4ever !!! Great to see you here again !!!

Done. Can you hear me laughing all the way to LA ???

Please, PLEASE keep an eagle-eye on that crystal ball. The man seems as phony as a billion-dollar-bill, so it's reasonable to hope that the crystal ball will offer ever-more salacious details !! Generally, I don't think it's decent to celebrate the fall of a peculiarly dishonest person, but for this one I'll spring for the fireworks.

I think many of us sensed that behind that smiling, "choirboy" facade there was a deep, dark stain he was covering up. To the Maganians, he seemed picture-perfect .... and that's as thin as a piece of paper. How on Earth did you find out all this ???

Agreed. It seems that all he can do is cater to the extremists within his Government. But I can't help but wonder just how capable his mind is of empathy. Exponentially worse. If the failure of the much-ballyhooed Israeli Intelligence Services to discover the 10/7 plot in advance, the response certainly isn't for the citizens of Gaza City to bear. Deflection is nothing more than attempting to shove bullshit down other people's throats. "Don't look at me, look over there" is as transparent a deflection as exists. Thanks for your response.

Only occasionally, but then I tend to prefer the seamier side of sex. Interestingly, almost never all those years in Chicago, but then "southern decadence" is definitely a *real* thing; one of the main reasons I moved to Ft. L. in the first place.

Agreed. It's not merely this issue I take issue with them, but currently it's a major one. My point is, allowing anyone to define what I believe is an error on their part. I don't accept their judgements anymore than I accept judgements from - oh - the religio-cultural crowd. Also agreed, except that no one gets to define how anyone else considers, arrives at conclusions. I'd tell these folks to kiss my ass, but I'd be afraid they might try. Thanks for the response.

Thanks, JimInWis & Bootman for your interesting and much appreciated responses. I still don't see a valid excuse for blaming "The Jews" (which is apparently intended to cover Jewish folks Worldwide) - even here in the US, and on our school campuses - for the level of destruction wrought by the Israeli Government in Gaza and it's environs. There are thousand demonstrating world-wide for a cease-fire, and for good reason. Rampant Militarism has never out worked well in the end, and won't this time either. Yes, the Prime Minister won his last election. Yes, Orange Jesus won a Presidential election too, proving that a miscreant can win an election anywhere in the world. The calls for a cease-fire are world-wide, and a reaction to the utter destruction of the infrastructure that countless civilians - poor and overpopulated as it was - depended on prior, and will depend upon again. Conflating "The Jews", wherever they may be on earth, with the massive destruction taking place in the Middle East by the IDF today makes no sense to me. Tangentially, I have yet to see anything on major media regarding the rebuilding of the destroyed areas. Thousands of innocent folks have been displaced or killed, and it wasn't by their own hand.

In any case, thanks to all you guys who voiced your thoughts. That was the whole point of the original question, and it was eye-opening for many of us. This is how we learn from each other, and I happen to think it's really cool.

Of course you want to do it again. Tell him. Share your needs/desires with him. Trying to keep it a secret will only become more and more unbearable, and it's not being fair to him. Maybe he'd like to feel free to have sex with other guys too, but can't bring himself to share that with you. The point is, each of you owes the other an honest partner, which includes whether you like carrots cooked to death or parboiled, having the freedom to have "outside" sex, and whatever else you guys do. Maybe he'd love to "open things up" with you participating, maybe without you. What's the worst that could happen? He'd refuse, you'd feel bad for asking, and that would be that. It would be better for both of you, whatever the outcome. I think honesty is always best in loving, caring relationships.

This just in .... An interesting development in the 14th Congressional District in Georgia: A reporter has discovered that the representative of that district was initially married to a man named Mr. Trailer, and subsequently also married to a man named Mr. Trash. Thus, her actual name is Marjorie Trailer Green Trash.

I've noticed in news reports lately that there are apparently substantial demonstrations on College/University campuses against Jewish folks. Surely University students have enough wherewithal to comprehend that "The Jews" are not responsible, it's the current Government of Israel that's wrought all the destruction, with more on the way. Similarly, it's not "The Americans" that are responsible for our current policy-problems in the US - it's a group within the Government within that entity that is the problem. I think these demonstrations are more against the current Government/Prime Minister of Israel, than against Jewish people in general. While it's true that Israel had a right to answer the 10/7 event against their nation, the response has been exponentially multiplied, with inexcusable consequences for non-combatants. Yet, "the Jews" are being blamed, as though the response to 10/7 was voted on and approved by a majority of registered voters in Israel. As we all know, occasionally "a mickey" weasel's his way into power, and wreaks havoc in all manner of ways. I consider Mr. Netan-yahoo to be among this sad group of world leaders. Mindlessly (or perhaps worse) killing thousands of civilians is simply inexcusable. and doubtless his political career is deservedly over. The question remains, however: Who is going to rebuild Gaza, and all the other destroyed population centers? I doubt that Mr. Biden has given carte-blanche to the Prime Minister, but he does want to give him a ton of dough. I hope the "you broke it, you fix it" mindset is being floated around the White House.

Given your truly sad experience with these folks, and successfully shedding that odious religiosity, I'll gladly accept your reasoning. I don't understand it, but I'll take your word for it. It's not easy to accept that some people simply deny their own ability to think, perceive truth, and/or dismiss fanciful notions (however self-serving), and live decent lives in the bargain.

Interesting question; thanks, ErosWired. I've read and re-read both questions, and I'm not sure I'd want to experience either one. I think there can be something interesting each day, if we're open to it, and even during the hum-drum of everyday life. If the answer to every wish, every hope or dream, the perfect reflection of our Lust suddenly became real, the rest of the tomorrows wouldn't hold much promise anymore. So, my answer to A is no. I can't say I've ever imagined that. I did have a wonderful relationship for many years, but it was based on give & take - sharing - not just what I wanted. Thus, my answer to B is also no.

Well, if he's one of those guys that's always thinking 'if I do X, then the money will follow", he's hardly the first in Congress, or the rest of government. Plenty of folks try their hand at business without doing much background work. It would put him in plenty of company too ... like that queen Santos they're trying to toss out. Or (to be fair, crossing party lines) Menendez, the Senator who bent over for all that Egyptian bling. Both are trying like hell to stay in Congress, and thus on the gravy-train. Thanks for the background info - most of us had never heard of him until his dizzying rise to the Speakership.

That wouldn't surprise me one bit ...

So you're saying that there would be no correlation / linkage to the fading of one and the rise of another? If it occurs, it would not be linked?

Well, this thread is an interesting read ... can't say I have anything to add ... for once !!!

Or - just incurious about appearances? It occurs to me that perhaps these people are not well educated in recent World History. Yes, Israel is an important ally in that area of the world, helping counter the more repressive regimes in the area. Yes, Israel has the "right" to answer the Hamas attack of last month. I would also say, the current Government there has much to answer for regarding their intelligence capabilities. and the current Prime Minister has even more to answer for. The ancient saying "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" may apply to military combatants, but it does not apply to civilians. It may be that millennia ago, when "armies" consisted of some men with broadswords and spears, plus some boys with slingshots, that physiologically-based slogan worked out. Those days are long, long gone. Using modern weapons to utterly destroy what - for all appearances - is a mostly civilian, non-combatant population, repressed, un-armed, unhoused, unfed, with medical facilities bombed to smithereens merely to kill one of the opposition's warlords (and perhaps an associated staff), while denying the mostly innocent hundreds and hundreds of thousands of civilians of water, food, shelter, medical care, cannot be justified. This civilian population was told to go South, to the border crossing into Egypt, while that area continued to receive regular attacks by the IDF. Such a deal: jump from the fat into the fire. "An eye for an eye/tooth for a tooth" simply does not correlate to the butchery taking place today with a scintilla of equanimity or basic humanity. Yes, the State of Israel is an important ally of the US in that region, which status does not give that State the right to do what it's doing. Now that is fascinating. From the US media's reporting, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that he's not what he appears. But coming from a man who's known him personally for years, and from that perspective confirming what most of us have sensed from major media reporting, is about as trustworthy as it gets. I don't know exactly how these people came to believe that they simply had the right to dictate, impose their narrow view of issues upon everyone else. Perhaps it's nothing more than living in an echo-chamber with others who believed in the same charade? How is it that some folks get the notion that Gawd Almighty has given them dictatorial powers over their fellow citizens? What kind of stunted emotional growth did these folks fall prey to? I suppose that they also know that Gawd is male. He wears blue on Tuesdays and green on Thursdays. More, it's His Almighty Will that there's still no viable 2-State Solution after lo these many years. I'm glad I've lived much of my life without these people trying so desperately to grab temporal power (and with an actual chance to fuck up everything). We'll see how much damage they can do in a year, before we have the chance to throw them out of office.

Wouldn't THAT be something special !!! I doubt I'll ever know ...

Just the car-related business. After wasting two days (there was a transport semi waiting at the side of the road for two days, which wasn't cheap) all I wanted was to get the business done and get outta there. Also, I'm not all that good at seducing guys - I'm better at it with guys that are already comfortable being who they need to be.