tallslenderguy

I like your thought process on this ChileanTop. You had me at "In the caverns..." :). Seriously though, I have often described myself as "feeling like a bitch in heat" when I am horny. I love the idea of a "competence trigger" evoked that causes a top to ejaculate more cum into my hole because their is a mechanism in him to win the prize, so to speak. From a bottom point of view, it may explain why as a bottom I have an almost insatiable desire for more cum, especially after the first load goes in. Most bottoms here will probably agree, the more cum they get, the more they seem to want. Except most gay tops are intellectually evolved and if some of the cum from another top leaks out, they will either eat it or push it back in... Seems gays are more civilized.

lol FelchingPisser... and I would totally spread my legs for you... but then, you're obviously not cumming from a bottom point of view (so to speak)

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ditto ff-whole. I went 35 years taking bb cock and stayed neg. I m a cum slut and have prolly had thousands of cocks and loads in that time and was always kinda worried about HIV, but never enough to overcome my desire for cum and cock in me. I got some great information and encouragement here on BZ from tallbtm, finally got educated and decided to go on PrEP. When I went in to get my std check and to start PrEP, I found out I was Poz. Not the end of the world, am pretty much still taking PrEP now (truvada) and one other pill and am undetectable and totally healthy. Still, I'm not one who actually wants to be infected, even though in 2017 it's not a death sentence, nor does it really present with side effects for me. I personally think PrEP awesome and wish all guys who bareback would go on it, but I'm in healthcare and not into disease :-).

halfway ditto. Not a fan of fetching either. I rarely even rim (almost never), but if I do it has to be very clean. I am not into strong smells at all. I like stuff like deodorant and clean asses and crotches. If i get a hint there something more than cum in there, it turns me off. I was at a bathhouse last week and a guy came into the dark room and started making out with me and wanted me to fuck him. It was towards the end of the night and i was getting ready to leave, so it's been my recent policy to breed a hole vs wasting cum jacking, so I would have. I always finger a hole first, if it comes back smelling unclean, I have zero desire to breed that hole. I asked him first if he was clean, and he said "I always use a condom." I laughed, sad how so many still associate an STD with "unclean." I clarified, "do you douche?" He just looked at me mystified and when I fingered him, he obviously didn't. So I passed. Same with rimming, cum filled or not, if I smell anything like feces, it isn't going to happen. But even if a bottoms hole was the cleanest, sweetest hole in the world (and I love a mans ass, I think it's the sexiest part of his anatomy), I still wouldn't fetch the cum out of it. To me, cum belongs in a guys hole and taking it out would almost border on sacrilegious lol. Bottoms work hard to get their holes loaded, I'm going to either add to it or push it back in, but I'm not gonna remove it. ;-)

Right with you on this. When I look at porn, it has to seem 'real' to me in order for it to work. If I sense at all that it's just guys putting on a show, I stop it right then. It's the stuff that at least looks like a real encounter between lusty guys that pulls me in. Attempts to pull that off with actors can be laughable. Some of the hottest porn I like is video taken where the guys being videod are not aware of being recorded. There used to be a guy on xtube (i think) who would record understall action in restrooms. There were several stalls, and he would record other guys who would be having sex under the stalls next to him. Was so fucking hot, especially when understall fucking was caught. Another hot scenario is anonymous walk in breeding where a bottom has hidden cameras set up and is waiting ass up for an anonymous load, and all of that is recorded without the anonymous top knowing. but really, the only thing that gets me off is real stuff, especially when there is no self consciousness of them knowing they are being recorded. I also LOVE creeper porn. have a huge fantasy of being bred by a "creeper" while I'm asleep. Course, that's really hard to pull off, the bottom pretty much has to be passed out for that to be real, and you can tell if it's put on usually, which again is kinda cheesy lol.

Hi tallbtm, et al, Yes, this is it for me too. As a bottom, I find there are different ways to fill the gap (so to speak) because the whole I seek to fill is not just physical. For me the drive of being a bottom seems to revolve around having another guys cum in me. However, if I could go to a cum store and just buy a bottle of cum to put in my hole, it wouldn't be the same. So, when I consider, "what is it about the delivery that I desire," I can identify several things. Probably at the top of the list is desire. In this respect, I think this is where tops and bottoms are the same in what motivates them. As a bottom, I love the top who I sense has this all consuming desire to breed me. The desire that I be a reseptical for their seed is a huge turn on. I think the top is similarly turned on by the bottoms desire for them to place their seed in them. IOW, both are getting off on being desired, even though it's different roles. Though it seems to be changing, we live in a largely patriarchal, male dominated world. A huge part of patriarchal culture is that women submit to men. The term "pussy" or "cunt" is associated with women, and by default, associated with submission. Not always, of course. There are all sorts of variations depending on the people involved, but crudely, and at it's root, "pussy" and "cunt" started out as pretty much derogatory terms used on women. When they are used with a guy, they can carry the flavor and history of meaning and intent, and they seem to summon up feelings that are probably seated somewhere in our lizard brain lol, i.e., where our emotional response hits us before it is processed by the 'higher brain.' The whole cave man, rough sex thing can have some appeal to me, but I am much more captivated by intelligent intent. When a top or Dom guy refers to my hole as a pussy with a derogatory tone, it can trigger one of two responses. If I sense he is just a bully, I am completely turned off, and even angry to the point of wanting to back kick him into the next room lol. That almost never happens. When I sense he is using the term to verbalize the dynamic of Dom/sub in recognition of our mutual desires, he totally has me and I fold into him. Along the line of working the mutual desire angle, I have encountered some Dom guys who use the terms "pussy" or "cunt" without any derogatory connotation. That's my favorite, but I don't encounter it often. Really happens more in a FB set up than a hook up, for me. That's when the higher brain or "mind fuck" kicks in, and it's the hottest thing to experience. I've had a few of these type relationships where the top/Dom guy not only referred to my hole as a "pussy", etc., but referred to me as a pussy, or his pussy. There's no overtly demeaning tone, even affection. The power exchange is so complete, there doesn't have to be any 'force' in the term or attitude, because the top/Dom has already captured me, knows it and the term becomes an acknowledgement of that.

I don't use the term referring to myself, but use it as a reflection of the top. I came out to a friend yesterday who I have worked with for 2.5 years, she was shocked. Many of the women I work with have hit on me. I think I am obviously gay, but then, I know me. She said there is nothing feminine about me, and it really is true. I don't see anything wrong with that, I just am not. The big turn on for me when a top or Dom guy calls me or my hole a "pussy" is not the word so much as the attitude behind it. It's more the attitude of power and control that cums along with it. And that doesn't happen with all tops/Doms. I find bullies weak and boring, a total turn off. There is a mind fuck that some guys have that makes me wildly sub and open, wanting to be bred by them even more... kind of an "on" switch. When that is conveyed in their use of the word "pussy" , I fucking love it.

I fuck rarely, but when I do, it is with the intent of breeding an ass. I don't want to be sucked off and pretty much just tolerate it to please the other guy if he is into it, but I don't want to waste my load there. When I cum, it's usually hard (like over my head if I jack) and a lot. I have come to the place where I save it for a pussy and want to plant it deep into a hungry pussy if I'm going to fuck. I love it when a bottom cums while I am fucking him and it will often trigger me to cum, probably because I was married to a woman for most of my life and trained myself not to cum until she did, so a bottom orgasming is a trigger for me. Yes, absolutely love the feel of his hole spasming and clamping down on my cock, makes me cum harder, but prefer he be hands free. If I am topping, I like the feel of being in control of all the pleasure and want the bottom to be a total bottom (at least when I am fucking him).

ditto. I've had occasions where a top will pull out with the intent of shooting on my ass or on the outside of my body and my internal response borders on animal. If I sense a top is going to pull out to cum, I'll push my pussy back onto him, pulling his cock deep inside and clamping down, milking to try and get him to lose control and cum deep inside me instead. For me I feel kind of incomplete if a top doesn't plant his come inside me, and feel much more complete when I know that that is where he wanted it or needed it to be.

I'm not "always" thinking of it, I have a job where I keep people alive and sometimes have to focus on other stuff. But getting bred is always just under the surface when it isn't on the surface and it seems to take little to nothing to bring it to the surface. I will take any cock in my pussy any time any top wants it, that does seem to be an intrinsic drive for me.

I think your profile is direct, but not obnoxious. I find a certain number of profiles that turn into a rant. I get it, guys get tired of flakes or just a failure to hook with the guy they want, so they start going on about what they think is the wrong kinda person and who needs to stay away. I think that kind of profile just drives people away, it does me, even if I am exactly what they seem to want. Also, for me, profiles are static, but I can be fluid, so my profile gets adjusted depending where I am at on a given day. No matter what I write though, and I am generally pretty direct, there always seems to be some who are blind to what is written. I don't know if they are illiterate, ignorant, or if they hope they can convince me otherwise, but I mostly just take it in stride anymore and remind them of what the profile says. I think some guys just look at pictures and use their imagination without even reading the profile lol, Idk. I also think newbies may not relate to distinct identities like "total top" or "total bottom", some don't seem to understand what it means.

Interesting... pretty much 100% consensus. Me too. It's not just the cum that I want, it's what the cum represents, that the top is sated and I now have a part of him inside me even after he leaves.

Ive been a bottom for most of my life... in my gay life. I was married for most of my life to a very sub woman, so I was a top in that relationship. Very recently I have been getting into topping after I have been fucked, if I cannot find anyone else to top and instead of jacking off and wasting my cum. Im kinda surprised by this turn in me. I have always loved mens asses, my favorite part of his anatomy visually, so I checked the "bottom versatile" box... which is new to me.

This sounds about like my experiences at the local sleazy ABS. It is hit or miss, but when it's "hit" is usually get 4 or 5 loads in rapid succession. I love it, cept I'll take any offered cock, guess I'm a total slut, don't want to ever miss out on a load.

I love the hole idea of dark rooms. The only one I have been to is at Hawks in Portland OR. To me it's not really dark, just kinda dim, and it's more of a large closet than a room. I envision a real room that's got a few fuck horses and slings, where it's dark enough that you have to be careful. I wish I could find something like that, it would be hard for me to leave once my ass was in the air and available.

Not really advice (sorry), butt I hear you. Honestly I think a lot of this has to do with the tops technique? I have the same issue with it being uncomfortable, but if the top is cognizant, I find it a hot experience even with the discomfort (I guess because of the idea of it). I had a BBC recently who mentioned before we hooked that he liked long fuck. I do too, depending on the top. I typically have really good experience with black tops and this guy didn't disappoint. It's like his cock was a true extension of himself and he used it like a probe. It seemed like he could really feel my second ring around the tip of his cock and he fucked accordingly, kind of like some tops to with the first hole, just kinda playing and teasing it. He coaxed it open instead of forcing through and had me totally under his power.

oh yeah, this one makes me crazy. I want your cum. I sorta get if the top is trying to spread himself around and not cum right away. But I go insane (inside) if the top pulls out and cums on me instead of in me. What a fucking waste of cum!! Otherwise, I get it. Honestly, I get most of the complaints here. I get that someone simply may not be into me for whatever their list of reasons, and I'm okay with that. Competitive bottoms piss me off. I've been in ABS where they will purposely close the door to the booth next to others to redirect traffic to the booth next to theirs. WTF? that is so stupidly childish.

I can't remember ever having enough cum in my ass. It's like cum is always an appetizer and the more I get the more I crave. Not to say that my limit (for "now") doesn't exist, just that I have never experienced it. My drive does have a pause button though, it's when I cum. I use stroking and edging and that just increases my craving for cum in my ass (or mouth if I cannot get it in my ass). Once I cum though, my craving is on simmer for awhile... usually no more than 24 hours at most, shorter depending on the stimulus. I use cumming so I can get other stuff done. Lately I have started breeding again instead of masturbating to cum. I am somewhat choosy as a breeder (and not at all as a cum slut), I like smooth, slender ass to breed... butt even that seems to be evolving. After I've been fucked by lots of guys and have been edging, I usually cum a lot and hard (I've had to clean my headboard off on many occasions), so I figure it's the right thing to do to not waste my cum and put in an ass where it belongs.

Yeah, he was my second. He commented on the load I already had in me felt saying how much he liked it.

I was at my local sleazy ABS yesterday evening looking for loads and having pretty good success for a Saturday evening at an ABS. One guy was kinda scruffy, he came into my booth vs using the GH and I sucked him for awhile and then he fucked me. He was pretty verbal and seemed to be into me vs just getting off, which was kinda nice. He wanted me to go home with him, but I was just trying to get some loads before going to see a movie, so I smiled and didn't bite on the suggestion. After he came and left, I got another guy who had been watching through the GH. and then had some time while no one was there. About 20 minutes after he left, he returned and came in the door of my booth with a bag, he'd gone across the street and bought me dinner. I was touched by the sweetness of the gesture. I didn't eat it right then and there (I don't eat while I'm bottoming for obvious reasons), and even questioned whether I should eat something given to me by a complete stranger? After leaving though, I figured it was prolly safe and ate while in my car outside the theater (no hallucinations, it was fine). I was a sweet experience though. The guy was kinda shy when he brought me the food and announced he'd bought me dinner. I was totally touched by the vulnerability and thoughtfulness of the gesture.

Interesting stuff... I don't have the mutation lol, though it did take a long time for me to become poz. I've had thousands of loads since the early 80's and didn't become poz until a little over a year ago. It's really not that easy to get HIV, so there would be a few who would beat the odds, but I like the evolutionary mutation idea better.

I don't get a thrill from catching a disease, but I do understand that some do. I appreciate the sentiment behind the idea, but I don't think it would work on a few levels. The two most common STD's out there right now are gonorrhea and chlamydia, and syphillis is finding resurgence. If a guy showed up to this club and was poz for one of them, then what? You'd have to discriminate against the guys (i.e., turn them away) with STD's because treatment does not constitute an instant cure. If I were going to such a club, I'd make sure I was tested for everything before showing up so I didn't get turned away, so I guess it would be a way to ensure not getting an STD. My own take is I think we need to remove the stigma of sex and having an STD. No one is made to feel ashamed about catching a cold from someone they kissed, there is no shame in catching a bacterial or viral infection from someone you had sex with. I like when clubs or bath houses have clinic nights where guys can get tested. I think it would be great to have STD clinics next door where you can get tested and get meds if necessary all in one stop. If we were progressive enough to de-stigmatize the process, it would be cool to have a quarterly "National Get Tested Week." Imagine the reduction in STD's that would result if we did that for just a few years?

As others have alluded to, I think cruising places have fallen out of favor because of the smart phone/cruising aps and the net. I was living in Virginia Beach/Hampton Roads (VB and surrounding areas like Norfolk VA) during the cruising hey day. That area is built on the Chesapeake Bay and has the largest Naval base in the world, so lots of military. There were several very cruisy places in the 80's and 90's. Ocean View Beach would have at least 10 guys cruising during slow times and 40 or 50 was not unusual. It was a social gathering as well as a cruising place. Across the bay was Grand View natural preserve, you had to hike back almost a mile on sand dunes, but there was nude 'sun bathing' the further you'd go, and sex out in the open... sort of. Lots of mall rest rooms where you could go pretty much any time where fucking and sucking happened under the stall walls and through GH's. This was Virginia and there were always vice cops to worry about. I got arrested in '98 for asking an undercover cop to fuck me. It was always total entrapment. They'd pretend to be gay and cruising and were usually hot. I got charged using a 100 year old sodomy law that made sex with another male a felony. The attorney general at the time was a religious right winger who used fear of gays as a platform to further his career, so he instructed his DA's to go for blood. I hired a very expensive lawyer who knew the game and it took about a year to come to trial in '99. Thankfully things had progressed enough, even in the south, where it was no longer considered to be evil to be gay, and the judge immediately lowered it to a misdemeanor. He asked my lawyer what he wanted to do and he said back to the judge "I don't know, what do you think?" He 'reduced' the "offense" to indecent exposure. Thing is, there was no exposure involved, just conversation. I was so scared out of my wits, I just gratefully took it and paid the fine. I was still married at the time and closeted, so I had the stress of trying to hide everything. I'm in healthcare, and to this day I have to explain this to every place I apply to for a job, because they do a criminal background. This is a part of the past cruising legacy that I don't miss. I live in Oregon now, and it is actually totally legal to have sex at an ABS or bath house.

I thought I'd wake this thread back up. I believe some new toys have been developed since this was started, and I just bought one. I'm 99.9999% bottom and have enjoyed occasional orgasm from getting fucked, but that's pretty rare. I've recently gotten into FF, though I have yet to take a whole hand, I hear a lot about guys cumming from "analgasms" and how they are different and longer. I have been disappointed by most vibrating type dildos and recently googled looking for the strongest prostate massagers. I settled on this one http://mrracy.com/review-lamourose-rosa-rouge/#charge (for size and intensity reasons), butt would be interested in hearing from other like minded bottoms on this site re what they have used to get anal orgasms, or orgasms using anal only stimulation... I know this community has some awesome, experienced bottoms and look forward to your input (so to speak)