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Adding to this.... @hntnhole I love the way you framed this. It is hard to pursue that which you don't understand (unless of course one pursues understanding, but often that isn't the case). The American dream isn't a gift of money or influence. It is learning how one's society actually works, and for this argument I'll include socially and economically, but mostly I'm writing about economically. When I read history, those written there, and who either succeeded or failed miserably are people who developed skills and insight into how things work. Some became like OG (Orange Geesus) and game the system by exploitation. Our history is filled with snake oil salesmen. That has been true throughout history. True today and it will be true in our future. Our history is also filled with accounts of people who were able to create information or ways of doing things which were more efficient or effective and are notable. And the big middle are all the outcomes in between. The whole "many hands make light work" idea. Just because we were born here clearly doesn't grant one interest and involvement in how and why things work. Whether that is their yard, home electric and plumbing, or neighborhood/community, employer, state or nation; or for that matter the world; this knowledge combined with effort to achieve more often than not works. Largely why so many immigrants recorded in our developing nation did so well. Yes, at times it was pretty vile exploitation. But for the majority it was just getting it done. We all have generational histories, no matter who we are or where we are. Each of us has OUR history. Those born into a family who had achieved a particular place is, and can only be, one's starting point. What we do with it is how we're choosing to live our life. So while I can empathize and understand someone born into poverty and ignorance; if they do nothing, it is unlikely anything will change for the better. Now, some might think I am victim shaming, and honestly if one chooses to feel like that is my intention, I submit they are demonstrating their own problem, not mine. I am happy to help make things better for my neighbor, but their problems living are theirs to live; and either improve or make worse. One of my life's sayings (a list known as Kimo's Rules) is "goals can be deceiving, the un-aimed arrow never misses". While quite true, it is also true the un-aimed arrow won't go where you want it to go without taking aim.

hmm, a true MAGA snowflake. Do you really think I give a crap about your offense @rawfuckingonly?

We'll see, but I hope you're right

A few hours have passed. I've had a few conversation with other sane peers. So, no, I am not resigning my board seats. TBH I don't know what the future is going to bring us. But if we don't pull together it will be worse than if we don't.

Sure @viking8x6 although "we" vs "our fellow American's" are I think the same thing. So quibble accepted my brother.

OK, Trump won. Truly sad that the majority didn’t see through his orange veneer. The man whined himself into the White House and the majority bought it. Kudos to him for being an effective snake oil sales man. He isn’t the first and he won’t be the last. We can of course just choose to give up and take it. And to some extent we’ve little choice on the taking it part. Bad stuff is going to happen. What specifically? Honest we won’t know until we know. We’re aware a host of unhappy outcomes will occur. But do we now just give up and say fuck it? I hope not.... It is about time for the economy to shift as it has been on an upward trajectory for a long time, starting with the Obama years. The expected recession hasn’t happened. Yet. Putting anti vaxxers in charge of healthcare is going to lead to a predictable problem. One that might make the last pandemic appear weak and rivaling the Black Plague in scope. How will the MAGA faithful respond to that? If the economy tanks for the majority, as I think it will, all this is going to change “bigly”. And rapidly. The MAGA faithful are a violent bunch and once they realize how they just screwed themselves. The results of that will be, um, interesting. If the orange jesus follows through on his threats and we see comics and politicians thrown in prison, will we cheer him on or rebel? If Health coverage is suddenly gone for most, how long will the survivors take it before they rebel? Locally there have been a shit ton of signs reading “Don’t stop Praying”. In my head I always append “on your neighbor” to those signs when I read them. But that shit only goes so far before we have open rebellion, which might be in our future. We are entering and “interesting” era….

So are we going to join the orange clown and whine? Or are we going to continue?

Wow @Erik62, thanks for your support? Harkening back to other analogies, it ain't over till the fat lady sings. Blaming this on Harris and Biden is just stupid. They aren't and never were dictators, and so they don't have sole control of outcomes. We met our NATO agreements with Israel. And it was important to be good to our word. I think grandpa Joe waited a bit too long to step back; but 2020 hindsight is always clearer vision that foresight. We, those of us living in the US, have work ahead of us to climb out of the hole we just dug. So we have a choice fellows... We can give up and do like the orange clown and whine. Or we can get to work. Who do you wanna be?

Yup. Right now I am contemplating resigning my local board seats. Obviously I am not a representative of my neighbors, so maybe they should choose someone who is.... President Fuckhead is only a representative of himself. Why so many don't see that is sad.

Fuck that was a lovely read!!! Thanks.

Well done @nonscene. Presumably he ends it with his fiancé. But does he become daddy's boy and they become a dangerous duo? Or does he explore his inner slut further with more strange dick?

Excellent question. I have a friend on FetLife who just had his closed up again after his recovery time. I'll ask him, but I might not hear back for several days...

I clicked on it and it downloaded right away.

Perfect, Maybe I'll order a hat with SWH above the bill....

@Devianturge... What exactly is "naturally gay"?

I do follow becoming less patient. I'm not proud of that. I am just tired of the BS. From "Obama was born in Kenya" to "I am going to jail Biden, Harris, et al". Including "my inauguration drew the biggest crowd ever" - and his little girl soldier boy spewing "alternate facts". Facts are measurable, observable, It seems like we've all been standing in front of a firehose spewing high velocity shit all over us. Enough! I have a little sticker on the back window of my pickup truck. It reads "You can't fix stupid, but you can numb it with a 2x4". A lot of people are waiting for things to be fixed. But for the most part, they don't lift a finger. My friends are those who are locally involved. Whether it be one committee to review something once a year; or a fellow trustee; our municipal staff which provides us socialist central clean water right to taps in our homes; or deal with the shit we flush down the toilet. Or provide a voice in managing our schools. I am hopeful everyone will find a way to contribute to their local community. It definitely helps put our government and nation in perspective.

Man, I love rational discourse. I am aware that the popular wisdom these days is to never "talk politics" at holiday dinners. And yet I grew up with skilled debaters, my dad and his sister, Knox College graduates. And their day long debates at our frequent visits sometimes contained passionately presented arguments. But they kept talking and I learned to love listening to them. They disagreed with love and respect for each other. It was more than entertainment. It helped us learn how to think. @BootmanLA I love you brother. This conversation here for me is sanity in our insane times. Thanks. @nanana my new "aunt Betty" (and I loved my aunt Betty). I truly am appreciating this whole conversation; and it wouldn't be happening without you. Thanks. Maybe weird to be talking about this stuff on a bareback site (obviously our common ground). So, in the spirit of reflecting that, the two of you are turning me on and a raw three way would be a delight. 🙂

@BootmanLA I think we are essentially saying the same thing. Ranked voting, however temporary those decisions might be; would give us an order of favored candidates. While we sort of get that in our existing system, the operative words are "sort of".

Indeed, constitutional amendments have to be ratified by the states. That takes way way longer than ram rodding in a supreme court justice.

It was a delight to go back and reread this. Obviously Will has already been seeded with all sorts of stuff. A neg test is impossible at this point. And I am convinced Will got a few pulses of Chester's jizz before he pushed off it. (aside; there is just no way I would have pushed off it.) I totally loved how Arther teased out Chester's load inside Will. I nearly came myself reading that. Leaking profusely ATM. I am anticipating the backroom they're heading into is where Chester will fully seed Will, after Will has taken a couple of loads. Will won't be leaving the downstairs room a neg guy. And honestly, it will be a pleasure if that is where @Jaygusher takes this story. It is time for the protagonist to get fully infected. And Uncle Chester's MO is to seed and infect his boys. I think that train left the station in the shower back in part 4. To remind us; that was when Will first had 100% of Chester's cock in him (both with Chester Dildo as well as Chester himself). So it was no surprise that Will took it all in Chapter 6. Man I love love love this story. @jaygusher if you ever put this together as a single book, I want to buy the first copy. PozBear

Indeed, Deadwood is a great example, but not the only one

I agree @BootmanLA. But also those choices are apt to line up differently tomorrow than today.

Yup, I know that, but they're ignorant and believe I am just making up stories to infect them.

To be sure the US was formed when global thinking was in "find and conquer" mode. It is clearly recorded in human history how consistently violent our species has proven to be. Does this mean we can seek and choose a more cooperative and peaceful coexistence? Yes, of course we can; and I submit our quarter of a millennia US experiment documents that effort. There is never, ever going to be a time we can change our past. Many will try to forget or make up stories about our past. But our actual path, the story of what actually happened is fact. There is lots of revisionist history, perhaps to try to explain a transition from our innate violence. None of us is solely responsible for our present state. But our present state is something that can be accurately described, and where we can make better if imperfect choices. It won't happen automatically though. Each one of us needs to make that decision of doing "the next right thing". And when most of us chooses that, we seem to do better.

What kind of cocksucker am I? A talented one. Until my HIV status changed I had a large a frequent following.