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100% SPOT ON. The difference between EW and I though, is while he's dedicated to his craft, and I to mine, I get to fukkin choose, and he has forsworn that option. I haven't, and if some maga-bedecked* idiot wanted my Cock, the very rocks would weep before he'd get it. *with no anti-human regalia involved, no one would know the depths of hatred in his heart/mind, and of course I'd gladly rut in his Hole. The choice to identify oneself culturally is exactly that, and asks to be responded to in kind. A wet, full Hole is great - an empty head is not. I hope the poster is more interested in "butch", masculine men - and not merely political cripples interested in saving the last, desperate, dying gasps of White Privilege.

So I had to consider this one for a while. I would say that yes, while I don't care to admit it, fairness dictates that I must. When I first started fucking guys, I was 19 or so. And, I was far more - well - "picky" about appearance than I am now. Just a stupid kid that didn't know better, I guess. But one thing about going away to school is, we find out that there's a big fat wonderfully diverse world out there, and we learn to start thinking for ourselves (and not necessarily via course-work). After a few years, realized that there are many kinds/types of men that love raw Cock up their gut, and I need to mate with as many as I can. I've managed to come from mostly guys that looked like me, to mostly guys that don't. More, I've come to realize that a lot of the cruising stuff is extraneous, and what counts is the sexual act of fucking loads up other men's Holes. Many Cocks, many Holes, double that for the balls, all needing to mate with each other, over and over and over. "Connect" with each and every one of them, when that's available. When it's not, every guy still deserves to have his Lusts honored. Now, the only thing that will turn me off - and right quickly - is an unprepped bottom. Other than that, the range of diversity among men dedicated to wanton sex is truly breathtaking, and I very much need to be a part of it. It's always all about Cock/Hole/Sperm - and precious little else.

In the backrooms or fuckjoints, when I eat a Hole before rutting in it, if it's really full of loads all I say is "wow - well done - how many Cocks have you taken so far ..." or something like that. It seems to me that asking before anything happens isn't worth the bother. If there's Sperm up there already, great. If not, rut a bit and then move on to the next one - or pump it full and then move on. I really love a full, well-Bred Hole.

If it were me, I'd put on a show for the bf, and do your best to be as enticing about it as you can. When another guy steps up, encourage him, tell him how much your bf loves raw Cock up his Hole, compliment him, and if there are others waiting, see if you can get one or two of them into the verbal scene too. Even if you feel like leaving, you're still the Ringmaster of the scene, and you should take that responsibility seriously. If your bf wants you to leave, sure - go and come back later. If he doesn't, you need to be the "enabler" not only for your bf, but for the other Cocks there to Breed him. When I was doing scenes like this, I always was around, to make sure nothing deleterious happens, and to keep the boy's Hole full of rutting Cocks. Tops tend to like filthy verbal encouragement. Make the Top feel good about what he's doing, and your bf will get a better Breeding out of it.

I'm guessing that he was a "crasher" - probably a local who didn't buy any tickets, and snuck in on someone else's arm. There ae always a few dullards like that, and kudos to your manners for not tossing him out even faster.

That's what bothered me when I was looking around for a warm place to move to. Sure, PS itself has a lot going for it, sexually. It seemed too "plastic" - nothing is "grounded", everything's there to reinforce the illusion. And then, PS just stops - it just ends, and there's nothing but the damn desert. In every direction. I found it really suffocating. I guess living all your life in major metro areas will do that to you. Get in the car, and go in any direction, with civilization all around you at all times. No regrets about choosing Ft.L.

Welllllllll ..... there ARE the chains the sling is hanging from, or the frame of the slingstand, if it's a portable unit. They can be useful to keep the Hole on the Cock ..... just sayin .... but, you know what's best for you - and that's the most important thing.

Whatever color you choose, realize that a sizeable percentage of men have some variation of colorblindness, passed on the X chromosome from their mother. Difficulty with red and green is the most prevalent, but there are more. Red/green is the most common, but some of us have difficulty with pastels as well. In my case, if two slightly differing shades of colored paper are laid down on a table, side by side, I can almost always tell that the two are not the same, but I have no idea what the name of the colors is. Blue could be purple, pink, lavender, almost anything. I have to study a piece of red paper laid against a green piece in bright light before guessing which is which. And before anyone climbs up my ass about driving, I learned a thousand years ago to watch which light is brighter on traffic lights. I learned to watch what other cars in front of me are doing more than watching the stoplights. After all these many years, I have never hit anything either, and it's not because I don't like driving fast. I just know I'm at a disadvantage, and take care to mitigate risks. To NWUSHorny's point though - what ever color you wear, it will probably be a bit dark wherever you wear it, and there will be men that won't even know you're wearing this color or that. But they'll definitely know your Hole is First Class, once they start rutting in it !!!

Well ..... I didn't say that a dp session in a sling was my favorite .... but it can be done when some guy particularly loves it. I would favor NWUSHorny's scenario - a slightly built guy ruts his Hole on the Cock lying in the sling, while I rut in the guy lying in the sling. For me, slingsex is really mostly to focus the bottom's mind on the sensations delivered by the Cock. The movement, back and forth (however slight) helps him focus on his submission to The Cock - All Cock - restrained with access to his Hole wide open and available to any Cock that happens to pass by. This kind of scene is most effective when the location isn't a private home, but in a fuckjoint - where any man walking by can pause, rut, and move on to the next Hole. It intensifies the bottoms purpose; servicing Cocks. But, the home-sling has it's best uses too. It always surprises me how many guys have never been slingfucked.

Well, they don't have to be. I would suggest that neither of the bottoms be on the heavy side though. The important part is to make sure the eyebolts are deeply secured into the ceiling joists, or even better, completely through the joists and then secured by a lock-washer and reversed double-nuts. Of course, standard sling-maintenance (treating the Leather with appropriate cleaning agents, restorative agents, standard care for all your Leather) is important. I will say that I've never done it in one of the portable sling stands though, so I can't comment on that. It's merely a matter of getting the chains at the most useful position for the Cock. As in most dp, the first Cock on his back (on a bed, floor, sling, whatever), and usually the thickest Cock of the two Tops. Then the bottom takes a seat, and the other Top starts working his Cock in. Same as any other dp scene - just with the added variation of the standing Top can just stand there, and rut the slingsters on his Cock, instead of actually fucking them - or switching back and forth. And, a big plus: if the first Cock shoots before the second (standing) Cock, the owner of the second Cock can get down there and easily maneuver the sling to eat the Hole, savor the fresh Sperm, before Breeding the Hole with his own load. Variety is the spice of Breeding, right?

Assuming you're lying on your back in the sling, with a Hole rutting on your Cock: Facing you, leaning towards you a bit, thus offering his Hole (with your Cock already in it) to the second Cock more advantageously. Of course, that can be re-arranged, depending on physiology, but it worked well for me. Given that the sling will be holding about twice the weight, if it's screwed into the ceiling joists, you may want to check those connections - make sure they'll bear the added weight/back & forth motion - just sayin .....

Same as on a bed, on the floor, same as anywhere - it's just easier to adjust your Hole to it's best advantage.

You chose correctly .... expect to get a substantial number of loads fucked up your gut at Island House. Now that it's summer though, there may not be quite as many men there, but it's a First Class Pigpen. And watch out of the chickens up in the trees at night .... I think they hold it until someone walks directly under them .....

Wasn't there another thread about dd's a while ago? I know I replied how I make them somewhere ...

This is amazing .... I have no inkling how you did this, but it's great !!! Now, all that's left is to invent some doo-dad that will come out of the computer and jack us off while we're reading posts/threads on BZ !!!!

Not even for a second .... years ago I ran across that BSB site, watched one for about - (blink) - that long, and that was it. Maybe it stimulates some guys imagination, and I guess that's ok. Not mine.

Here in Ft. L., it's held at a tubs over on Oakland Park Blvd - Club 2. That's about the only time I go to the tubs, and it's usually pretty good. The venue isn't the largest around, so that helps make it feel heavily attended too, I suppose.

This is the risk we all take when we fuck raw. There will be std's occasionally. But you're bright enough to have gone on PReP, which means you'll be taking loads - a lot of loads - for longer and in better shape than some other guys. Don't feel badly about it, just get it taken care of, and get back out there doing what you know you need to do. Good luck, bud.

As many have said above, of course it's not "safe". On the other hand, what is "safe" in life? Getting out of the shower in the morning could be unsafe; slip on the floor, crack your head open on the tile floor and that could be unsafe. Getting into your car and driving off could very well be unsafe. All kinds of things can be unsafe. Probably unsafe, likely unsafe, absolutely unsafe - it's all relative to the risks we're willing to take to bring sexual balance into our lives. So for me, this becomes "What is an acceptable level of safety, and what is unacceptable", and how do we decide for ourselves what level of "safety" we insist upon? I would point out that the entire raison d'etre for this website - bareback sex - is considered by millions of people to be "unsafe". The relative safety of different sexual acts is an important topic, and much discussed on BZ. And that's a good thing, because encourages us to think for ourselves about what kind of stuff we'll do, and what kind of stuff we won't. Here, we discover what other guys like ourselves think about whatever, and thus are challenged to think about what is "safe enough" for me? What is too dangerous for me? We're exposed to thought processes of many, many of our peers, It all boils down to each of us asking ourselves "What level of safety am I comfortable with?" Do I take PReP or not? Do I get the inoculations or not? Do I take mind-bending drugs or not? Do I walk into a darkroom and fuck every Hole or not? Do I walk into a fuckjoint and take every load I can get or not? Where, in my life, do I place the importance of my sexual needs? Here on BZ, we can share our thoughts with other guys facing decisions some of us have made decades ago, and other guys just starting to consider their choices. Every single one of them is valid - and what each guy determines for his own life is as fluid as the contents of that little brown bottle in his pocket when he heads out to be whoever he decides to be.

Well, if that figure was anywhere real, it must have been juuusst before the Bush housing crash. I arrived shortly after that, and found some extremely reasonably priced properties. Actually, my life-partner and I never did come here (other than the airport to change planes), so all I really knew about this burg was what I'd heard from other guys. Made a quick trip down here, and before that (was till on bbrt), changed the location doo-dad on that site, and sniffed around a bit. Figured out that Slammer was a must-visit, and I did. That visit sold me, but I had no idea of what passes for any of the fine arts. There's a small opera company out of Miami that performs at the much-ballyhooed "River Walk" redevelopment downtown. The facilities are nice, but there is simply no serious music happening here. I will say, whoever directs that opera company has the sense not to attempt more than his/her forces can manage, so that's a good thing. The legitimate theatre here doesn't exist, but I know that may be unfair compared to Chgo. Back there, we had better theatre out in the neighborhoods, let alone the downtown theatre. There is little interesting art - but a sort of Bohemian colony has emerged down by Sistrunk Blvd (which is thoroughly being gentrified, if you can believe it !!!). Those disappointments aired, I had a great experience with all of that back in Chicago, where winter comes every year, and lasts for at least 4 months. Nothing but cold, dark, short dreary days for months on end. I think this is why ThanksTaking and Christmas were placed on the calendar in late Nov and Dec. At least something a bit cheery to brighten the dreary dark cold of winter. Here in Ft.L., there are these storms (one blew through yesterday and today - modest in intensity, and I bet you caught some on your side of the Glades too. But they come, do whatever, and then go. And the sun comes out and presto - it's beautiful, warm, lovely Summer again. Actually, the Ft.L. cops are quite generous with gay guys, and there are plenty of gay ones. I suppose that's at the behest of the mayor, who I've seen at RR several times - and no - I haven't. Well, life is all about the choices we make - all of the choices are never perfect. At the time, I'm sure it seemed to be the right one, and maybe it was - at that time. So, we'll just wait a while longer for you .... we'll find some mischief to occupy ourselves while we wait, I reckon .... Hope you both have a pervectly filthy weekend of it !!!

Well, there are "threads" (each one on some different topic, area of interest, etc), and guys respond with what they think about any particular issue. Some threads you will find interesting, some not. You can view these various group-conversations in the main forum area. More, if you have questions, by all means ask one of the administrators - Viking8x6, for instance - who is always most helpful, but then so are the others. On the home-page, there are some icons on the top, the third-from-right being entitled "other". When you click on that, you will see options for contacting someone who can answer your questions. They only want to help you with your questions, and are there for you whenever you need them.

I guess I like #9 best .... the upward curve makes it look even more vulgar, committed to Breeding any time, any place.

Hey, ellentonboy .... Thanks for the kind words. You're not sure about my describing the Staff Toilet, because I don't know anything about it. All I know are the two on the way to the Patio bar & Pig Alley. Clearly, I haven't (dis)graced myself enough in there to be noticed by the staff !! I'll have to "work" on that. To the "Young Men's Leather Club", at one time I was porking a Cuban bottom, who (it turned out) was about the last thing from a Leatherboy I'd ever run across. I did join that club for a while, but didn't find the kind of respect for the LeatherEthic I'd known so well through the years back in Chicago. I know that the LeatherLife is fading away, for a number of reasons, and some things simply disappear with time. That, and it's just too hot around here most of the year to wear the hides. When "Leather Night" finally devolved into Sunday Night from 7 to 10 in the Patio, I threw in that towel. The last time I wore Full Dress to the RR they stared like I was some oddity. Now, it's just 501's a t, and some ancient engineers that I don't give a rats ass about when they get stomped on in Pig Alley. The experience with the UPS driver surprises me not one tiny bit. Now, the neighborhood has experienced quite a renaissance in the past 8-10 years. Houses around here are selling for (hold your breath), 500 - 900K, but I know that won't last. 10 years ago, 80, 90K was an appreciable amount to pay. Lots of houses in the 'hood are flying the Pride flag, some the Leather flag, some even the US flag (!!!). I haven't noticed any sign to the effect of a "quiet area", but then there are only a handful of barstools in the front bar anymore, so I don't sit up there often either. Why sit up there, when I can sit on the benches back in Pig Alley? The pool table area is relatively quiet, with just the sounds of Cocks rutting in Holes, sloppy bj's, etc. The only "pool" being played though, is who can get the ball(s) to fill up the pockets. Slammer is a fuck joint. At one time (apparently a loooong time ago), it was a "gentlemen's club", i.e. female hookers servicing straight men. It's at 321 (locals refer to it as 321 or Slammer) W. Sunrise, which puts it about 9 blocks South of WM. There is a bar, but they sell soft drinks only; you have to bring your own liquor, which the bartenders will label with your name and keep it behind the bar, available when you come up for air at some point. I usually bring a can or two of beer. Occasionally I see a bj taking place out there, and they don't seem to care. Mostly it's just guys that know each other, friends, fb's that happen to turn up at the same time, etc. The Eagle you remember is long gone, but one has re-opened up on WMD by the Courtyard Cafe, if you remember that. They do enforce a dress-code, with separate sections for Leathermen and guys just there to service them. So, you can have a drink, chat up some hot-holed Leatherboy, and then move to the other part and Breed him. The fuck-area does not have the dress code, but shorts/flipflops aren't encouraged at all. The only thing I don't like about it is trying to find a damn parking place. As to the tubs, I'm not much of a baths guy anymore, so I can't really comment. I've been to Clubhouse II (where the CumUnion parties are held, up on OPB), and the one on Broward. Actually, that's about the nicest bathhouse I've ever been to. I think that old hotel you used to stay at has been renovated - in the very worst Florida Moderne architecture imaginable. It's just laughable. BUT !!! One of my favorite oyster restaurants in town is on Cordoba, a couple blocks north of the Causeway. So, there's at least that - lol. Thanks again for the kind words. Best ....

And welcome to you too, CumCounselor. It's a pleasure to read such an imaginative introduction. Since you just joined, here's a tip it took me a while to find: After creating a post or a reply, and submitting it, in the upper right hand corner of the window there are 3 small dots, arranged horizontally. If you click on that, a couple of choices will appear, one of which is "edit", but it's only active for a few minutes. Thus, if we hit "submit reply" first, and proof-read secondly, we can adjust awkward usage, misspellings, missing modifiers, stuff like that. It appears once the text has been submitted, opposite your handle. Of course you belong here. All of us do. The exchange of reliable information (lots of medical professionals are BZ'ers), different points of view on many subjects of particular concern to us. I hope we hear more from you. Again, welcome !!