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I agree. Rawfukkin is so commonplace these days that it's (at least around where I live) the "default" m.o. When I fuck a Hole, I don't ask - I just fuck it. If the guy in the minority (wants a condom) says so, I just give him a smile, say thanks anyway, and move on to the next guy. I'm not really in it to debate once my Cock is pointing directly at a Hole. If the guy doesn't want it raw, fine. The next guy will.

As am I. Many excellent replies on a subject I have no personal knowledge of, and thus, no ability to respond, other than to offer this: It's never good, decent, uplifting or tolerable to harm others, particularly kids; which protection must be and has long been codified into law. Thanks, all you guys who have replied to this.

Well said, Treehugger !!!

I noticed this thread a while ago, never read much of it though. If I wanted to fuck a pussy or a cunt, I'd pick one up and do that. I don't. I want to shove it to a raw Hole, and I do that often. Decades ago, when I didn't even know guys could have sex with each other (religio-cultural taboos drummed into my head when I was a kid), I fucked girls, and all I could think of is that old Peggy Lee song: "is that all there is?". Once I figured it out, I have not one ounce of sexual attraction to anything female at ALL. This is not to judge men who identify in some way as having female characteristics. Just because I don't share them doesn't mean they're not real. Everyone gets to decide these things for themselves, and free of judgement from others. Just don't ask me to fuck a "pussy", because I won't, regardless of gender. It's all about Cock/HOLE/Sperm

So, newbie, it sounds like you're still unsure of which way to structure your life. It's really important to think it through, since "the raw life" is, in fact, so demanding ... compelling. You entitled your post "To much to lose", which suggests a negative mind-set towards wanton Breeding. Listen carefully to your heart, your mind, your soul. If you're not willing to commit to living a life of Lust, and the ensuing behavior, then turn away from it. It's ok. This life isn't for every guy, and it's ok to think you maybe want to take a Cock up your gut. Just be sure, since doing that may well be crossing your own Rubicon. Good luck, and thanks for your post.

I've never had anything named after his Majesty the Prince of Wales, but I have had a ring through the left side of the foreskin. It would ride up and down the shaft, and fucking "side-saddle" would hammer the prostate beautifully - they always loved it. But, some guys were afraid of it, and I finally bought a miniature (key-ring sized) pair of pliers just in case I wanted the Hole badly enough to take it out. The pliers scratched up the ball enough to make it dangerous when the plague hit, and that was the end of that.

"If you're a top who would enjoy doing something like that, can you explain what that feels like for you? Why you would enjoy doing it? I really want to understand." This is too easy to answer. Consider yourself, and then consider what your "competition" might be, wandering around the campsite. The men in that little shack with the fuckbench were waiting for a man like you to appear. Even in the dark, men of a certain substance / experience can recognize what they see and sense, and they know they need to share in it. More, a "group" sharing is always - for men like you describe - burning hot. I've barked up this tree a number of times, so just a synopsis. Besides, it's 4 years ago now since this post.

"it's as though half the Tops didn't realize that was an actual possibility and that they might actually be called upon to perform." It's THESE guys that belong on the bottom rung. "so that's why I make the effort for every single man who summons me." and why some guys don't.

"It became a purely instinctual act of two creatures, and he reached forward and gripped me by the back of the neck as his cock pulsed his seed deep inside me" " The Top must think of, and by diverse means, convey, that he has Power and is about to convey some essence of that power into the body of the bottom. The Top-As-Breeder must demonstrate that he is in control of the whole setting, that he has intent, that he is going to achieve his goal no matter what, and that he is equipped for the task at hand". Which some men call Mating, Connecting. Celebrating mutual Lusts. Each man contributing, receiving, sharing his half of the complete equation. It could be called any number of things, but not mere rutting, merely Breeding, however delightful that may be. It's on a higher plane. Same old same old, huh? Thanks for the excellent post.

You have a bit of a comedic gift as well, I see. Have you considered relocating to someplace where your talents can be more widely taken advantage of? Maybe that's just not in the cards, but it does seem a shame that you have to put up with that silly stuff. It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm (and not "clearly CD guy who looked basically like someone’s (homely) mother ... or " held a loud conversation about personal finance and home decorating"

Maybe they're high on something that interferes with their "abilities" ? Hardly an excuse, but maybe a reason?

Last night (well, in the wee hours of this morning I guess). Was a good night but I need to sleep for a while now

Not at all. I had a live-in cumslut for around 3+ years, and it was a lot of fun. He's been taking loads around here for years, Was poz on meds, and undetectable. Went to orgies together, and while I rutted in other Holes, sometimes the tubs, often the fuckclubs, I would circle back regularly and eat/rut in his wet Hole. We had small Breeding events here at home on a regular basis - developed "regulars" who would sometimes bring "fresh meat" over too. Even just walking down the street, I'd see men give him a knowing little smile (they'd clearly fucked him before), and that always made my Cock hard. Occasionally, I'd send him out to a fuckjoint to take loads and bring a full Hole home for my pleasure. Or, he'd go to one fuckjoint and I'd go to another. Or, I'd have something to do, and before I left I'd tell him to get on the cruise sites and have a Spermed Hole by the time I got back home. Never had to tell him twice. Usually there would be a different car or two in the driveway when I got home, and I'd be hard by the time I got to the front door. Our Lusts meshed pretty well. But then he got into smoking crack / meth, and that was the end of it. The success of a keeping a SpermSlut depends on honesty, integrity, trust, from both the Top and the bottom, which drug-use almost always destroys. I kicked him out, but we're still friends (without the sex). I admire guys who whore their BreedHoles - they're totally sexy - but I won't put up with the chemical dependency. Now, when I hit the fuckjoints I'm sure I'm rutting in some drugged-out Holes, but I don't know them, I don't care. In that context, all I care about is rutting in a lot of Holes that have been fucked full by other Cocks. It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm

# 198 meaning the 16th President? Or maybe the automobile that Henry Leland named after him? I notice Antoine de la Mothe C - crownjewelofGM isn't among the entries .... I've never even head most of them before - how could you manage to stifle your LOL ???

EW: "Would each group flourish, enabled to grow through purity of purpose? Or would the groups falter, each needing something that the other provides?" Most likely they would, since the fantasists depend on the doers-of-the-deeds to fuel their imaginations. It's regrettable, but it's understandable that some guys just don't hav the balls to do what they know they need to do. Thus, one of my earlier posts regarding Behavior. The fantasies are fine, but nothing counts until on actually adjusts one's behavior and gets out there. EW: "The result is that the second group gets its satisfaction at the expense of the first." Not necessarily. As you point out, the fantasies (or realizations) do begin at some point in each of our lives, and some are honest enough to not only hear the Call, but follow their hearts and minds and go do it. I don't see how other men's fantasies take place at the expense of those who do act upon discovering/realizing their truth. There is one obvious exception though - and that is when the dreamers actually reach out to the doers, make a phony plan to meet, with no intention of follow-through. Those dishonest guys are, in my book, cowards - able only to fantasize about who and what they are, but ill-equipped to actually do it. Their orgasms are hollow indeed, as they sit in their rooms pretending to be what they fear. I very much doubt that any man dismisses you as one of these phonies. If there are one or two, they denigrate themselves to the Community they are trying to affect. There is not one whiff of insincerity in your posts. EW: "I’m actually going to try to publish an explicit written account of my experiences, but I’ll have no choice but to change the names of people and places to protect the... well, to protect the complicit. And that will do nothing but give it more of the flavor of fantasy". I realize that this post was written almost 3 years ago, long before I found this site. If you already have published this work, I would love to purchase several copies, one for myself, and the rest as gifts to certain men I know who wrestle with the above-referenced dilemma. In the event you have yet to publish, I would offer that it is entirely unreasonable and impossible to contact so many men, most of which you may not even know their names. Of course you must alter any actual names or contact information without specific permission in advance. EW: "It makes me want to climb onto the roof of the bathhouse and shout to all the world - “I HAVE BEEN FUCKED BY MORE MEN IN MORE WAYS IN MORE PLACES THAN YOU COULD POSSIBLY BELIEVE AND I WANT TO DO EVERY BIT OF IT AGAIN TOMORROW AFTER A GANGBANG TONIGHT - I LOVE COCK AND CUM AND I GIVE SWEET, SWEET ASS, I’M A SLUTTY CUMDUMP SLUT AND I’M NOT ASHAMED OF IT ONE FUCKING BIT!” I've written it all before ... you already know what I think about the above. Are there any more posts regarding reporting from Cloud Cuckoo Land? I haven't yet found all your previous posts ... It really is all about servicing Cock/Hole/Sperm

I don't get that part either .......... it's mentioned twice in a very brief posting ........... none of it makes sense ............

This is an interesting post, with more than one answer possible: I'm about 80%T, leaving 20 up to other Cocks. Years ago, when I had become well-versed in backroom action (but only just ...) the only thing I thought of was Ahhhh ... that was a good fuck (or occasionally not). At that point I was utterly selfish in my outlook, and hadn't learned anything at all about the "connection" we can access when we use our Cocks for more than just pumping Sperm. To be completely honest, I didn't think about the other guy much at all. Dumb & Stupid, and worst of all, Selfish. Not that I intended to be self-centered, but I realized later that it was completely true. For a few years, I never (intentionally) fucked the same Hole twice, since - as I saw it then - I already know what x Hole feels like, and there are so many more I still need to experience. Those were the years that I really built up the count, as referred to in another post. At the time, I had only taken one Cock up my gut, that being my life-partner's, and it was painful - to the point he never was able to cum in my ass, and didn't want to harm me. Those were the years that I really built up the count, as referred to in another post. There was, a few years later, somewhat of an epiphany that took place, in the fuckroom of the Gold Coast - cum Eagle (frankly, I don't recall whether it was before the demise of the GC or after - the same bar just changed names). I've described said epiphany elsewhere on BZ, and won't go into it all over again, but the crux is, I suddenly realized - in mid-fuck in the backroom - that I'd been shutting out at least half of the Breeding Thrill due to myopic lack of an open mind / heart. Once it entered my thick head that these were men - human beings I was fucking, with hopes, aspirations, dreams of whatever, living their lives - it was like an earthquake. It was then that I started really doing some intellectual work on what I had failed to even consider. It took no small amount of time to adjust my selfish mind, and get rid of that "My Cock is what Counts" mindset. I consider it a gift from the Universe. I have learned that some Holes need a hot hard hammerfuck and a goodbye. Some Holes need a Caring, Loving, Intimate, Sharing Mating with my Cock. They are men, human beings worthy of everything I can possibly deliver, and I particularly love delivering it to Whore-Holes. That said, the venue of the action does impact the issue. At my favorite fuckjoint, I seldom even see their face, and do my thing accordingly. But I take my cues from the Hole as well, if there are any offered. Of course, it's much easier to "share" - "mate with" (as opposed to just rutting) when that experience takes place here, in my home, where I am in control. The real answer to the question is, I do care about the Hole. I want to give him what he needs, as well as take from him what I need. "Connection" makes any fuck special, particularly with men who have dedicated their lives, well-being to relieving any/all Cocks that require it. I call it "mating", because in my mind, that term elevates Breeding to a higher level than mere rutting/Breeding in an anonymous Hole. While I'm the last guy to foreswear the latter, I love the former even more. Never-the-less, it's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm

YES YES YES YES The only thing that might prevent it would be the (always observed) "sniff-test". If there's any hint, I won't. I've been through the giardia (as well as a few others) thing too many times to purposefully dare it. It can still happen, of course, but I weigh the risk/reward, and since eating out a hot, hairy, Sperm-filled Hole is probably my First-among-Favorites, Hell, Yeah !!!

So I'm gradually working my way through posts from ErosWired, an excellent wordsmith, and just ran across this one. There are many worthy points, but perhaps I could offer some insight on a couple others. A sling is a blunt, overtly aggressive instrument of sexual pleasure for most Tops. I happen to have three: One in the playroom, one outside in the back yard (supports built of 4x4x12 lumber), and one portable, of steel-tubing framing. It is true that usually, indoor (i.e. for the playroom) are installed into the framing of the house via 4 heavy eyebolts screwed through the ceiling into the rafters. The sling is then hung from these via fairly heavy chain, length dependent on the height of the ceiling. Attached to each of these suspension chains, as spring-clips to offer support to the legs and/or arms via leather loops, which are easily adjustable depending on the Hole's physiological needs. The sling is of heavy leather, sometimes with attachments such as a leather pillow. The portable sling stand is easily put together, as the steel tubing is narrowed at one end, so it slides easily into another piece of tubing, fitting securely. There is a heavy X-member each of the tubes fit into on the floor, with the lower horizontal sections fitting together, each meeting at one of the corners. From there, heavy steel tubing uprights fit together in a similar fashion to a height of between 6 and 7 feet high, where in the overhead steel tubing fits together forming a mirror of the construct on the floor. Thus, you wind up with a structure that - when occupied, weight is distributed evenly, and g-force is exerted inward, keeping the whole structure very stable and steady. The same fittings as described above may be used. Now. In a fuckjoint, a sling is an "invitation-direct" to serious group-Breeding. By contrast, in a private setting the sling is generally by invitation only, since it is so clearly an instrument of Domination. But it is only a tool to effectuate the inclinations of the men in attendance. The instinct to whore one's Hole, along with the instinct to Breed whore-hole, is up to the men involved. Put another way, a sling is merely a device to encourage wanton Breeding, and that can only reside in the minds of the men that happen to be in the area. Thus, if a man who is not well-versed in being used in a sling, he may wind up feeling something other than consumed with CockLust. I too have seen men who have little more then their own imaginings lying in a sling at orgies/fuckjoints wondering why there are no Cocks rutting in his Hole. It's because his mind is busy with extraneous stuff, and he doesn't know better. There is absolutely no connection to distasteful furniture located in an obgyn's office. A sling is as far removed from anything remotely related to female genetalia as anything could be. In a private setting, there is almost always a ribbed, rubber (i.e. easily washed) floormat under the "business end" of the sling to collect any CockDrool, lube, Sperm that managed to make a run for it. In a fuckjoint, that is seldom found however I'm assuming that proper accessories are not included in the "business model". Neither is proper arranging of the leather ankle-loops, or other accoutrements. There was a "Leather"bar out on Oakland Park Blvd some years ago that had the most outrageously ill-equipped, poorly installed "sling" I'd ever seen, and I told the bartender so after correcting the problems as best I could; that business failed in short order because it was trying to be what it was not. Our esteemed author is 100% correct in describing a sling as an instrument of Sexual Power, to be exerted upon the willing Hole, and within all the normal, necessary "limits". One thing I have never used, however, or even seen that I can recall, is a mask. That would obviate the Hole's use of the mirrors, and most love to watch the Cock rutting in their Holes. If not, then they merely close their eyes. A number of the respondents report the Top fiddling with the Hole's Cock, which I find odd. From the Top's perspective, I suppose it would be visually gratifying if the Hole's Cock were hard, but it's hardly material to the issue at hand. The Top is there to fuck the Hole, which is what counts. I have certainly enjoyed the tactile sensation of running my fingers over the body of the man I'm rutting in, but I have never pinched nipples, slapped or punched anyone, and on behalf of the Tops who have, I offer my deepest apologies to you bottoms have experienced that. I would say that it's inexperienced men who have not bothered to learn their craft more than anything else. To my mind, it is inconceivable that a Top would try to suck off a bottom lying in a sling !! It's oil vs water. A slingfuck is all about the Power Exchange, and nothing else. Or, more clearly, a Cock needing to use a Hole, period. My Cock, My Sperm, your Hole. Quote "" I explained to him that the sling was meant for fucking and not for any sort of BDSM activity, which would have required some negotiation up front in any case."" Completely obvious, or should have been to the man. Good on you for telling him so. In closing: 1. Understand that in public fuckjoints, any guy might imagine that he knows how to use a sling. When one of them tries to, with you in it, and proves himself inept, then TELL HIM. Tell him to learn his craft before he assumes he knows everything, and deflate his bubble (one of you won't do that, I know ...). Ignorance doesn't deserve to be tolerated, just because it's coming from a Top. After all, it takes the respect of (at least) two men to mate, and that act is to be held in high esteem. 2. If I knew how, I would gladly send photos of a properly arranged sling, so each of you will know at a glance if the Top is aware of the issue. But, I don't know how to do that. 3. Never give up on whoring in a sling. When it's "right", it can be a mind-blowing experience !!! 4. I'm looking forward to finding the post including the Latin descriptions with a big, fat smile ... It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm ... and "connection"

Well, damn and double damn it ... all this covid mess, not going places, the up-rooted sense ... It was my damn Cock looking at the calendar, not my damn eyeballs ... Mr. Cock only has one eye, and it's been oozing CockDrool more than usual, so maybe that's his excuse. And no, I'm not buying him glasses !!! I don't care - I'm going anyway*. Soooo !!! Since I usually limit myself to Friday and Saturday nights, does this mean I simply have to go again tomorrow night and Saturday night TOO ??? And, you're right, ErosWired, in that Thursdays can be good too. When I was first contemplating moving to Ft.L., I flew down on a Wed, spent all of Thursday looking a God Alone knows how many places. I'd sniffed around in advance, and thought that Slammer might be my kind of place, and went that Thursday night. It's not quite what Fri and Sat nights are, but it was great. Next day, flew back home and slept on the plane until it started descending to land. Oh - the next day I called the realtor (he gave me one-sheets re: all the properties), and said "I'll take that one" - and that was that. *having already started "the process", despite the fact that I seldom actually take a Cock up my gut, if one seems particularly perversely pointed at my Hole, I cannot be un-prepared. That said, I really detest the prepping part. It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm

Update: So I was talking the other day to one of my favorite Partners-in-Breeding back in Chgo. Having left Chgo 11 years ago, I asked about the Congress, and he said it's been completely re-done, and it's very nice now.

There must be something in the sill .... jag ar fod i Skarbocka, min far var en Skoning, so maybe that's part of it. Or, maybe it's Jul Tompt coming for us. At this point, I'd fuck even HIM ... in any case, we must have some common ancestors - seems we're cut from the same spermy cloth. Have a GREAT time of it, tomorrow, then. 😛 Cheers !!!

Closest I can come is the Art Hotel in Fuggerstrasse in Berlin. The Prinz Eugen (if I recall correctly?) is on the first floor.

well you PIGGY !!! And, you understand the "greater connection" too ... well done !! Last time I was in your city, I got thrown out of the Atlanta Eagle for taking a blow job standing at the bar. I was in town for a trade show, but brought enough gear with me to at least have one night out on the town, so it wasn't for lack of hides. Back in Chgo, guys took blow jobs standing at the bar all the time - how was I to know ??? At least the bartender had the manners to let me Breed that throat before he threw me out ... <<<filthy grin>>>

Hey, Alchemist You can't help your thoughts - only your actions. I have recommended caution, and I continue to recommend caution. That said, it's interesting that he clearly wants to be at least friends with you. I see no potential harm in compliance with going out for supper, watching a movie at his suggestion, whatever. Maybe even suggesting some event you and he would both like to attend (no, not an orgy ...lol). But, I still think you'll be safest by letting him take the lead. It's the weekend (finally) ... go to some joint (without him, obviously) and blow off some steam with men you know will appreciate it. Your balls are probably packed full by now, and they'll thank you for it. Per the "0 messages for 24 hours" thing: I only joined this site a couple of months ago, and found that message most frustrating. We're supposed to make comments, start threads, etc etc, but are then prevented from doing so. There are these "badges", which we apparently "earn" by creating posts, replying to posts, maybe clicking on the little heart and choosing a reaction. All I can say is, at some point it will get less intrusive, and you'll wind up in the BZ clink fewer and fewer times. It's all about Cock/Hole/Sperm