tallslenderguy

As a bottom, I've never had this happen to me, but there's been times when I get home and realize how close it was to happening. I clean deep, but the colon has twists and turns and it's possible for water to go in to a part of it and not come out immediately. That's probably why you hear a lot of experienced bottoms talking about how much time it takes to clean out. There is 24 to 27 feet of intestine, about 4 feet of colon (which is the part we are talking about "cleaning"). I doubt most bottoms approach douching all 4 feet of the colon, especially on a regular basis. Douching the whole colon would throw off electrolytes and upset intestinal flora. All 25 feet or so intestine is always in motion, so eventually stuff is gonna move down. A bottom may start clean, but nature will eventually take it's course, so if the bottom cleaned out 8 hours ago the odds have changed. I use a long shower douche nozzle to get past some valves. I "rest" after the water is running clean and I insert a colon snake to try and free any trapped water. Then I douche some more to make sure everything is clear. This takes time and I find lots of tops who don't have a clue what it takes to make things nice for them (like when they email or text and want it "now" lol). Also, when I know I'm feeling in heat and am gonna want to be on the prowl for hours, I usually don't eat anything that day.

...sink ships?

Nay80, that is a fucking sweet hole... made my cock squirm (and I almost exclusively bottom). can imagine sliding all the way in to that, balls and all swallowed.

This is an interesting topic to me. I was married most of my life (to a woman). I was really frustrated because, for whatever reason, I'm a bottom who wants to get fucked and bred. Of course, she couldn't do that, even if she had been inclined. I know there are dom women who will use a strap on, that doesn't do a thing for me (no cum for one thing). I love to get fucked, so your love of breeding would work great with me. I'm less oral, buy do it as a prelude to fucking. Feet? Well, maybe if you try and slide it up my ass (kidding, I've never even had a hand, but the idea appeals to my bottom nature). To me it isn't selfish for you to like to breed and me like to get bred. To me, where the selfishness comes in is being inconsiderate. That can happen on either side. Like others have alluded to, how you fuck is the question, not that you prefer fucking.

not sure how I feel about fisting, maybe ambivalent still, I'm such a slut I love getting penetrated by a guy who wants into my hole. I tend to spread my legs to any guy who wants in, I love his desire.

lately I've been hooking up at a local ABS. I've moved 3 times in the last 5 years, KY>VA>OR. I've used the usual online hook up sites/methods, and have found ABS/theaters in each of the areas. Kinda like ABS/theaters for the instant possibilities they offer vs the frequent flakes you encounter on online sites, plus all the arranging and qualifying that goes along with those who are legitimately looking. I've been pretty lucky at the ABS I go to in OR, seems to almost always be 3-5 guys who wanna breed, usually through a GH. Something else I have noticed is there seem to be more guys into fisting than I have ever encountered before. I wonder if that is just a local thing or if fisting is becoming more mainstream? It seems about every other time I go to this ABS, someone (never seems to be the same person) tries to get their hand in my hole... through a GH. I've never taken a whole hand before, but it is in my bottom slut personality to enjoy any kind of attention my hole gets (as long as it's not painful). There's something about a top wanting to dominate and make his mark on my hole that is a total turn on for me. Any other bottoms out there finding more guys wanna get their hands in you?

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Wow, amazing you have not gotten any at those kinds of places or events. How often do you try? For me I can go to the same place on different days and one day get 5 loads and another day nothing. Depends on who's there, etc. as for signals, there's a bunch. If I want a guy to fuck me and I'm at a cruisy place, I'll position myself somewhere in front of him and lower my pants enough where he can see some ass, that usually does the trick, instinct seems to take over and they cum up behind me, expose my hole and slide in...I'm pretty bold about asserting my ass, if I guy shows no interest, I move on.

I like a cock ring on a top, I think they are hot, especially the ones that stretch or separate the balls (it is so fucking hot to have a guys balls slapping my taint while he fucks). As for wearing one myself? I've never noticed that they make me harder or cum harder. To me they become uncomfortable to wear after awhile. I like that they keep my balls in place, my sack gets really tight when Im turned on and my balls tend to float up, so it's good for keeping them in place. As to it being the hottest piece of jewelry a guy can wear, my vote goes for a PA. A PA makes my legs spread involuntarily.

Fun question. I was married most of my life, so had lots of practice as a top. With men, I have always been mostly bottom, pretty much exclusively the last 10-15 years (I can count on one hand the number of times I've fucked a guy in this time). Lately, I've considered topping more and with the thought process have made some observations about myself. Since I have been I've been divorced since 08 and my wife is the only woman I have ever been with.. I really have no interest in women sexually. With guys, I am really turned on by a hot ass on a guy. I think a guys ass can be his sexiest feature, which is pretty funny coming from a bottom, you'd think a cock would be my biggest turn on? There are times when I would fuck, but am flaccid. I don't have any physiological issues getting hard, but what makes me hard has changed. I get hard when a guy approaches me to fuck me, wants to breed my ass, etc.. I.e., the things that turn me on all seem bottom related. Even if I want to fuck a sweet ass, the way I get hard is fantasizing as a bottom. So, for me, the reason I don't fuck more often is because my mental and emotional disposition are bottom and my cock stays flaccid at the thought of fucking... even though I may enjoy it. Also, like others, I don't generally even consider fucking until after my ass is full of cum and I am somewhat sated.

Here's my nerdy contribution : Anatomically, everyone's a little different rectally (I looked all this stuff up in my anatomy/physiology test books since there's been some discussion, I thought some might be interested). There was some discussion about 'popping the second sphincter' on another thread, but that's kind of a misnomer as the inner and outer anal "sphincter" are within about 2 cm of each other right at the anal opening. Probably what most of us are encountering/talking about are the Houston valves; one way pseudo valves in the rectum. There are several variations on these valves, i.e., we are not all alike. According to my anatomy book "The average person has two or three valves, while approximately 20% of people have four to seven valves and 2% of people have none." My guess is this probably accounts for, in part, why some guys experience of getting fucked is different from others. The common consensus is that the function of these "valves" is to help keep fecal matter contained before defecation. There's even discussion amongst proctologists on how to navigate past them when doing tests like colonoscopies. I think the key is these are "one way valves," and of course, we are talking about going the opposite way when getting penetrated. In my experience, we're pretty malleable physiologically which could explain why someone with more experience has better 'tolerance' (for lack of a better word!) to being fucked: conditioning. Lots of us experienced bottoms have figured out (and we often discuss) how to condition our "holes," and have done so. We're talking muscle and tissue that can be manipulated and, somewhat, altered.

When I was younger and still married and in denial about being gay, I got an std from a guy (urinary). I was part of an HMO and the doctor I got was not my usual, but a member of the practice. He was young and hot and knew, of course, that I was lying about having no idea how I got it. The way he obtained the "sample" to test me was to have me bend over his exam table and essentially by finger fucking my prostate and milking precum from it. I was pretty naive at the time, but something about it felt like more than just a standard procedure. The guy really took his time and I had to pretend not to enjoy it.

Ditto, I see it in porn and am totally disappointed, and if a top does that to me, I get pissed. To me it's like interrupting an orgasm at the best part, I just don't get it. I agree with the others who also realize it's just kinda ignorant, I suppose one could argue you are lessening your chances of catching HIV (It's not as easy to catch as some believe), but that is not true about other STD's.

I was your age (26) the first time I was with a guy. He knew I was knew, but I was also really horny and wanting to get fucked, so I straddled him and went for it. He laughed and said "whoa, let me get some lube" (a good idea lol). While I had never been fucked before, I'd been playing in my hole since I was a kid, so having something in my ass was not new for me. Having something as large as a cock was new though. If you kinda want the feel ahead of time (I say "kinda" because nothing is like the real thing), find a dildo about the size of a cock your going to take. Might want to start with a smaller guy your first time out. I loved my first time, but it gets better once you know what you're doing.

Great question tiger. My sex life is almost completely anonymous, I really never see the guy fucking me, but I've had lots of hookups turn into what I'd call a "fb." For me a Fb is someone who keeps coming back, and I definitely develope affection for each one. I had one recently who I really miss because I moved, but he was an awesome fuck to the point where I'd have to bite my toungue to keep from saying "I love you" lol. One of the cool things about our lives is we get to define them. I like not being stuck with someone else's definition of relationship. I've had some great fbs and am greatful for each one. These are obviously mutually satisfying relationships, why wouldn't they be considered valuable?

I'd say it depends on the kids and the kind of relationship you have with them. Chances are, the guys on this site who have kids had them in another life (i.e., before they were out as gay). I, like others here, was born in an era when being gay was considered a sickness. Add to that, I grew up in a fundamentalist religious culture that taught me I was broken (at best). As a consequence, it didn't even seem an option to live as a gay person, I believed being gay was something to be cured of, or at least something I had to overcome or resist. As part of that, like many gay guys my age, I got married and tried to live as a straight person. I was so religious as a kid I even got up and in a church gathering and "confessed" my attraction to guys, everyone circled around me and prayed for me and nothing was ever said about it after. My wife to be was even present. Nobody, including myself, really understood what it meant to be gay, we thought it was something you could choose against. My gayness was something to protect the kids from. After years of processing, I finally got past my upbringing and beliefs (I was a slow learner!). I came out to my kids in 2006. Both were adults, and both were shocked. At the same time, I left fundamentalism. Not sure which was more shocking to my kids. Both of my sons are smart guys, one's an electrical/nuclear engineer, the other has 2 masters degrees. Each was headed the direction of losing their religion, but it's almost as if my coming out pushed them back in and deeper than ever. Because of their religious beliefs, one of my sons hasn't spoken to me in years, the other reminds me in birthday cards that he and his family are praying for me to 'repent." I haven't figured out which which response I like less. To me, there was no way around it (coming out to them). It was a part of living honestly after a lifetime of almost literally living in a "closet." It ended up costing me my family... but did "I" ever really have a family if they didn't know who I was? I think if ones kids are accepting of them, then the kid will kind of guide how much you tell them. They may ask, though even in the 21st century, sex is still an awkward topic for some. I think the important stuff to be open about is how being gay affects you as a person, things that might never occur to a straight person, like how you may have hidden while growing up-just to survive. These are things that molded us and can offer a lot of insight into the why and how we are/were. It's a part of being known in relationship... if your kids are interested in knowing you.

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Wow, this has turned into a fascinating exchange. I love this community. I land somewhere in the middle on this. For me, sometimes it's hot when a top refers to my ass as a "cunt" or "pussy" and sometimes it's not. It all depends on the person and situation... which indicates to me that it's not so much the words being used, but the person using them and how he uses them. For me it's about another person taking charge of my pleasure. I think socially these are roles that have been generally assigned as male/female, masculine/feminine, so there is some part of our psyche that associates the role with gender (even though the notion may not reflect reality. i.e., it's possible to be male and sub, female and dom). I've had some tops who, while fucking me, referred to my hole as a "pussy" and I had to keep myself from laughing. Their voice and even demeanor struck me as funny because it was opposite of what they were trying to convey with words and it became ironic. But that was my personal perception. Physically the guys were indeed in the "dominant" position, but their attitude came across to me as trying to be something they were not. But what is it that makes my idea of right correct and theirs wrong? Do our ideas of right and wrong keep us from seeing reality? I was married (to a woman) most of my life (over 30 years). It was a lot of work (and pain) for me to get free of religious and other cultural stuff that kept me from accepting who I am, but the processing left me comfortable in my own skin and usually comfortable with other peoples 'skin' as well. I honestly don't think there is a 'right' or 'wrong' side on this (really. I'm not trying to be PC). To me the wrong side is disrespecting another because they are not like me. That's the kind of ego/ethnocentricity that got gays thrown in prison not to long ago (and still does in some parts of the world), so why would we adopt that practice? Not that I am suggesting that there is no such thing as attraction and preference, but I think the reasons for that are part of our individual construct, there's not a superior or inferior, just different. To me, bad is when there is not mutual consent, or we violate a persons volition (yeah, I know there are even guys who want that... but the key is "they want that" and as such are still exercising their volition to be violated lol). Sex is both an emotional and physical need/want and the two seem very intertwined. It seems human nature to want to standardize behavior and need/want as "normal" or "abnormal," when in reality both behavior and need/want seem very individual to me. Though there can be lots of overlapping similarities between our wants/needs, and thus similarities in our behaviors, we're still all different. WTF, lol. Simply put. I think the most successful interactions involve some form of communication. I may really love calling an anus a "pussy" or "cunt," but I don't want to call yours that if you don't want me to, or especially if it offends you. So, after communicating, I may look elsewhere or simply not use those words with you. And vice versa. If I'm a bottom whose buttons get pushed by such words, I may look for that in a top. Yeah, I know, communication can take some of the magic and spontaneity out of sex, but that's why god invented profiles.

I think one of the advantages of being "gay," or just different from heteronormative really, is that our reality sets us up to question the "norm." For years in recent history heterosexual was called "normal" and homosexuality was "deviant" or "abnormal." Culture(s) seem to be forever trying to put a static label on stuff as a point of reference. Ok, you may be wondering where the fuck I'm going with this? Really, just making a distinction between what is considered a cultural norm and what may be physically "normal." From what I read, you don't have any physical issues that preclude you getting erect and maintaining an erection? You're still pretty young, so likely do not have vascular issues that effect your ability to get and stay hard. It seems to me that your going soft while getting a bj is mental/emotional vs physiological. I.e., it's not that you physiologically can't get hard, you start out that way, but for some mental/emotional reason getting a bj doesn't keep you aroused. Our sexual physiology is wired into both those things (our mind and emotions), they both can effect our erection. Your statement: " I always go soft. Every single time. I never cum from it and it leaves the sucker feeling pretty crappy when I go limp in their mouths" can become a self fulfilling prophesy. I.e., if you are convinced you will always go soft and never cum when getting a bj, you probably won't. It's not that you're physically incapable of getting hard or cumming (I imagine you do both?), but that for what ever reason some part of you does not want to. There's probably not a guy on this forum who has not experienced psyching themselves out of a hard on. I was married most of my life, so I was a top most of my life when it came to the opposite sex. I had no problem getting hard. I could get hard on demand, and often when I didn't demand it lol. After I divorced 7 years ago, I've been living as totally gay. I've only ever been with one woman, but cannot count the number of men I have been with, easily hundreds (I cheated a lot while married). When I was married, I was pretty versatile in my gay sex life. As I have gotten older, I have become more bottom to the point I am almost exclusively bottom now. Along with that, I no longer become erect all that easily. This is just a theory on my part, but I am in healthcare and have observed that the body shuts down areas that are not being exercised. It's true about muscle, bone, our brains. I wonder if the same isn't true sexually? I.e., if we're not 'exercising' our cocks to penetrate, we become less capable of doing so? But then, the opposite is probably true too. I.e., if we start exercising again, we build muscle mass (this becomes less true once one gets older, but you're not there yet). But just like the guy who hasn't lifted weights for years cannot start out bench pressing 350 lbs because he is deconditioned, the guy who has only fucked a couple of times in the last several years may also be 'deconditioned' and may need to "exercise" that part of himself to regain the same (or more) ability? I do not think it is normal or abnormal to change and want to fuck, I think it's simply the course your life is taking for reasons that are particular to who you are. I do believe you could top and stay hard and cum while getting sucked if it's something your whole person wants. You may not start out being able to do it on demand, you may have to exercise to be able to reawaken and reach your full potential, but I think you are physically built for it if you want it. some thoughts for what they may be worth

Hey breederboy, I try to understand flakes, but am still frustrated by them also as a bottom. I have had several actually go as far as getting my address and then they disappear or never show. This has really put me off of places like CL. As a kind of defense against this I've gotten to the place where I will give my street and a cross street and ask them to message me when they get there and I'll give the address. I explain why (flakes) and I have had some success with that. As to the guys that just quit the conversation when it comes time to do something, I figure these guys are the same ones that go for phone or cybersex and that's all they're really looking for. I'm with the many who in other discussions have mourned the internet as affecting hook up sex. I think there's a lot to be said for cruising in person. Lately I've had great success at the local ABS.

on the few occasions I have cum from getting fucked, it was with a top who knew exactly what he was doing with my prostate. It's a rare and hot experience for me to cum from getting fucked, made a little more intense from the fact that my pleasure has been totally controlled by the top... who obviously knows it. As far as doing it to myself? not nearly as satisfying fucking my self....

I'm not usually totally satisfied until I cum... and I don't even think of cumming when I'm in heat and want cum in my hole. My approach to sex is a kind of edging or tantric approach (i.e., how long I can sustain the pleasure without cumming). It also depends on the guy fucking. Some guys are just looking to get off, so as a bottom, I kind of mirror that and am available and enjoy his intent and pleasure, but then I want more (cum). Some guys are really obviously into the process of fucking and working a hole. I have one FB in particular who is really an artist, and he comes closest to leaving me sated (and he usually cums a couple of times). So, for me, a tops energy and intent have a lot to do with how satisfied I am. Then there's the cum. When I get cum slutty, sex for me becomes hearing the tops sigh or indication that he has cum and having his cum in my hole, and I cannot remember ever getting enough of that.

"The Best Tool to Find Bb Fucks?" I was gonna answer: "a hot ass," but that wasn't an option. Butt seriously, I've lived in different locations and it seems each region has its favorite place/site/method. Last 2 places I lived I got most my action off of CL, but not without a lot of flakes. Where I'm at now, it's definitely an ABS. It took me awhile to figure out this is the place, but I rarely leave without 5 or 6 loads in my ass and a few down my throat. Always a little disappointed when a guy cums down my throat instead of my ass, but some guys only want a bj and some guys cum faster than anticipated. When I suck I always start slowly and purposefully, and that seems to turn a lot of guys on. It's all very Zen, being in the moment lol. I've gotten fairly adept at making the switch from sucking to mounting my ass on their proffered cock, and I'd say about 90% of the guys at this place seem to love it (i.e., bb fucking). Only had a few actually turn me down because of no condom.

Yeah, some tops or bottoms don't like the terms, I don't presume to know all the reasons, everyone's different and I think it's best to just respect a person as they are. Having said that, I fucking love when a guy wants to breed my cunt or pussy, I love taking a guy's dominance into me

i dunno, Ive never experienced too much cum in my ass. I guess it's like jello, there's always room for it.