tallslenderguy

For me, it's more about the energy a Guy exudes. initial glance, i love slender guys, not all that into heavy muscle. Ironically, my current most frequent FB is a young Muscle Guy, which confirms for me that it's about the energy. He's a quiet, sweet, unassuming Guy, Who wants and needs to breed. When He fucks, His personality comes out alternating between sweetly kissing my neck and shoulders, to spanking my ass and slamming it like a jack hammer. After, He quietly asks if i liked it. Visually, if i'm at the gym, or anywhere really, slight or slender guys with a bubble butt turn my head, and yet, i'm total bottom. Shorter, younger Total Tops are a mind fuck for me, but if it's ongoing, there needs to be maturity. As for me, i've always been total bottom, and i have been 6'5" since i was 14. When i was younger, i was 160 lbs and i bordered on emaciated i was so skinny. i have a sunken chest and when i was super skinny, i really looked like i needed a meal or ten. i remember venturing out, wanting to be around some gay guys when i was 18. i went to the gay section of Venice Beach in SoCal and found some obviously gay guys and put my towel near by. i overheard them talking about me in a less than flattering way as i lay there, and it only made me more embarrassed about my skinny body. Now i weigh in just under 200lbs, still skinny, but do enough weights to have a little bit of chest and ass. i try to stay skinny because it feels more bottom to me.

"take My cock, I know you need it" Take My seed, I know you need it" Take My piss, I know you need it" Not said in a mean or forceful way, just fully knowing He is right, matter of fact.

About 10 minutes ago. my sweet Latino muscle Boy. i don't write about Him every time He breeds me, He is so spontaneous, i have to scramble to prep for Him, and have discovered just how fast i can prep lol.... sometimes it's a little scary. Haven't had any accidents, but have had a little trapped water a few times, always clean though. He's shy, doesn't say very much. We met on Squirt, so sometimes i write Him notes telling Him how much i like how He fucks and some of the ways He turns me on. He seems to like hearing that stuff, but never responds with words. Tonight He fucked like a beast, He was wild touching and scratching (not hard) my back, spanking my ass. He has a lot of stamina and i know He keeps fucking after He has cum. i'm a skinny guy. i go to the gym and do what i call my "skinny white boy routine" just to stay tone and have a firm round ass to breed, but i have no desire to have big muscles... i feel a lot more bottom being the skinny guy lol. i know, so many different flavors out there, glad some Men like my flavor, i'll take any Man who wants/needs to breed, not sure how many Tops feel the same way about bottoms, so i am always grateful when there is that mutaal desire/need. Fuck i am wet with seed, i feel so alive.

You are not A "prick." As i see it, it's only worth having if all want it, even better if all need it. i'd rather go without than have a guy fuck me who was just going through the motions and didn't want me, and me want Him. That's half the equation as far as i'm concerned. i just don't get someone who would still have sex with me knowing i don't want it. If there's a "prick" in the equation, it's the guy who would fuck you after you've repeatedly said "no."

i think you are a wonderfully intelligent and insightful person. i am impressed that, despite the awful treatment you have received by those who should love you, you have a level head and a compassionate heart. Still, these people, i believe, are poisonous evil. Personally, i think most evil is inadvertent and born out of ignorance vs being purposeful, though i think that exists too. Still, one cannot remain unaffected swimming in a sewer. i am so glad to read that you live in a country that is not unsafe for gay people. Please seriously consider getting away from these people who would harm you. WTF, your life long friend actually hit you in the face. That is horrible, he is without excuse, but a good example of how so called "friends" and acquaintances can do great evil when their fragile ideas are challenged by someone who is different. These people are less mature and more ignorant than unschooled children, they are not a healthy culture to be a part of. They are inbred and sick. i hope you leave them behind.

i know this is speculative on my part. i believe our "tastes" and predilections are from both nature and nurture. i have read some studies that suggest that nurture can become part of our genetic makeup and, thus, be passed along that way. i'm pretty confident my attraction to Men is intrinsic after trying so many years to change and still loving Men as much, if not more, than i ever did. The expressions of my attraction to Men has evolved hugely over time, but the foundation of attraction is still the same. i married when i was religious and part of the culture this thread is discussing, and have two sons. Both of them stayed religious when i came out (they were both adults when they learned i'm gay). They pretty much disowned me, though that may be changing after 16 years, and they remain very religious. They both are married and have kids, and i'm sure have made all the 'right' choices in raising their kids to ensure none of them turns out gay. Their kids are getting older, teens etc., and i am curious to see if one or more out of the six ends up being gay despite all the programing they have received to the contrary. Stay tuned.

Fuck, this makes my heart ache to read. i know, i have been there, the childhood friend as well. i even had a crush on my childhood friend. What you are experiencing and learning is what it means to be different in a world that considers it's ways to be the only right way to be and live. It is perplexing, rightfully, that those you love and want to be friends with, do not love you back. It really is central to much of what is wrong with this world, narrow, small minded people who cannot grow beyond their own sandbox. What is wrong is not you, just because you are different, but them. If you were in a position to do so, it might help if you moved, left these people behind, and started over again. Find a place where there are more gays and where gays are more accepted. It may be a hard thing to do (i did it), but in the long run, it pays off.

Fundamentalist Christianity (or any fundamentalism really, fundamentalist Islam justifies bombing and killing 'sinners' using the same exact attitude toward their bible), is not a faith based belief system, though they think they are. Instead, they treat their ideas about the bible as knowledge. They call the bible "The inerrant word of God," and "the truth," but what they are actually doing is calling their interpretation of what they read "the word of God." What they have done is elevated their own perceptions to "God" status. They do not see that it is they who have decided that the bible is the "word of God" as is their perception of "God." It's truly bizarre how they leave their self out of the equation when it comes to assigning stuff to "God." The hypocrisy of fundamentalist Christianity is endless. So many of the fundamentalist leaders today have used "God" to get rich, for instance, and there is a whole lot more in the bible about money than there is about guys having sex with each other. Even one of the most popular bible portions used against gays condemns more of the preachers using them than it does the gays they are using them against, these verses rank "greedy" right along with the gays these mega church preachers are condemning. This is from I Corinthians 6: "...you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

The good news is, it is not difficult for many, maybe even the majority? of people to "accept that someone is gay." Unfortunately, you happen to be in a culture that suffers from extreme ethnocentricity, and worse, has "God's" seal of approval. Some religions are very ethnocentric. Lot's of inbreeding and isolation helps ensure ignorance. i get it, i came out of a similar situation. i now joke: "being gay saved me from "God."" What really happened is being gay is reality for me and, though i spent a big chunk of my life trying to do what "God" wanted, and trying to be who i 'should be,' trying to be straight was a lie for me, it was dishonest and unreal. It took awhile for me to realize that it was not being gay that was wrong, but it was the fucked up ideas i'd been conditioned with by people who believe they know "God" and what "God" thinks and feels. It took me a long, long time to realize that what i thought was "God" was really just other peoples ideas about "God" that i had been conditioned to believe were "God." Sadly, these people, your 'friend,' equate their beliefs with "God," so to them, rejecting those ideas feels equal to rejecting "God." It was hard for me to escape that conditioning, and hell, i was gay and had that strong drive to help me. i figure it must be really hard for someone who does not have a strong reality i their life that goes against their ideas and condiioning, to actually get free of it. Personally, i see it as a cult, but one that has become sort of mainstream. When i accepted myself, i literally lost everything. A sizable estate that i had worked my entire life to build, went to my former ("God" believing wife). i lost all my friends because, hey, they were all part of the same belief system and they were not going to associate with a 'rebel' like me who had turned his back on "God" just so he could get fucked by Men. But the universe, or whatever it is, proved to be on my side. i don't deny the pain of rejection and loss, but i gained freedom, honesty, and peace. Ironic about the "peace," because the religion i was part of claimed that it gave "peace that surpasses understanding." i had nothing but pain, shame and guilt when i was a part of that system. Since leaving that behind, i have rebuilt and i am one happy, peaceful cocksucking faggot. Something else that can come with digging out of this landfill is understanding. i understand so much more about human nature and people in general as a result. The poison can be turned to medicine. best to you babe.

i'm re-watching the series "Looking" on HBO, and recently finished watching the more cynically titled "Uncoupled" gay series on Netflix. i confess, i have a decided romantic side to me. While i do not particularly 'long' for a romantic relationship, it is ever a lingering part of who i am. i've watched a million gay movies, lots of series with gay characters, but have never experienced anything like what is portrayed in the media in real life. Okay, i know, it's fiction... but isn't some of it trying to portray something real, or maybe an ideal? idk, just cogitating here. Couple of the things that kept slapping me while watching "Looking" last night was how spontaneous sex always is. True about all the gay movies as well. i have never seen one where you hear the scratch of the record sound and the bottom stops the heat of the moment action saying: "wait, i have to clean out." Something else i noticed in "Looking" is how they are always eating yet are always gym fit. Hell, if i think there's a possibility He may wanna breed me, i'm fasting. And there is no way i could eat like these guys. Besides the romantic tangles, the media also portrays friendships. i recently had a one year 'relationship' end. At first, it ended sadly/badly. It was tough, we really love each other, but sexually it wasn't working (for me). He has ED and i'm a total bottom, so you can prolly do the math. i wanted to continue having a friendship even though sex was out of the picture, but He is sexually attracted to me and could not have a platonic relationship, so he ended it completely. i get it, but am sad about the loss of all the other stuff we had in the relationship. i've tried to have a 'gay' social life, but it's hard to have even gay friends it seems. Most of my gay social life is online, which while i am grateful for that, seems sorta pathetic. What about all those gay dinner parties with lively interaction while feasting those gym fit bodies on unhealthy food? What are your experiences/desires/wants when it comes to gay romance and friendships? Are you getting what you want and need?

i love how you are bringing in both perspectives here. i see two distinct groups in D/s Top/bottom (which is not to say there aren't more, just for the sake of discussion here): those who get off (on both sides) on control through force, bullying, a certain level of meanness. The other is what i relate to as "affectionate control." For me, it's a lot more of a mind fuck, deeper and more of a complete connection. A top could likely force or bully me into drinking his piss, but making me do it means that he'd only have my submission in act, not my heart. When i feel affection, consideration mixed with a Mans lust/need, i become fully engaged (if we have the kink in common) and His demeanor evokes the need/desire in me to please Him. He does not create that need/desire in me, He is controlling and using something already there. For me, it is much more powerful when a Man is open, honest, real about His desires/needs. Not in a needy way, just matter of fact. If He says right up front: "i really want to use you as my toilet and have you drink my piss from my cock," He'd put me in instant heat because this stuff is essentially about us connecting and bonding at a deep and real level. His being open and real facilitates that, and He is exercising control that He may (or may not) fully realize He naturally has with me and how i am wired. Him taking His time to 'train' and help me become His good piss drinker makes it very personal vs a generic process. Him letting a little piss go while His cock is in my mouth, them affirming me when i swallow and please Him only serves to make me want to please Him more.

About 10 minutes ago, my FB i've written about here a lot. i was at the gym when He messaged me: "free rn?" i messaged back i was on my way home. i can be hairy or smooth, usually do whatever turns my Top on, i really like when He gets turned on and filled with the energy to breed by what He sees. Personally, smooth feels more bottom to me and i love Tops who get off on that, but it's not something i make a big deal about, i like to follow my Tops desires on that one. It does feel wet and slippery though, feels very sexy right now, He really creamed me a lot. He's pretty quiet, but i think He liked it because He came pretty fast, and a lot. i really love the way my hole feels right now, very sloppy, like it could take cock and seed the hole day.

For example, i f i call a guy a "pussy" or "cunt," etc., to me, that's not a a denigrating term, or "pejorative" in my mind. i like guys who are pussies and cunts, and "assholes" are not a bad thing. 😉

Have you ever found yourself cut off in traffic, or some other situation, where a pejorative comes to mind to hurl at the person, and then you pause because it's not a pejorative from a gay position? i thought it would be fun to start a thread of stuff that straights consider icky or a negative, that are hot or positives to us. Here's some of the "pejoratives" that are paradoxical to me: asshole cunt pussy fuck wad cock sucker faggot ass kisser

Biggest was 10-11 inches (i didn't have my measuring tape with me) and very girthy. We were both younger and it was at a park in Hampton Virginia. He was a hot guy as well. i was ambivalent He was so big, but of course, my lust won out. i really struggled to take Him, would prolly be a lot easier now. The smallest, probably about 2-3 inches? i've had a couple of those. One guy on several occasions, enough to call Him a fuck buddy. He was extremely shy because of His size, so i never saw Him, was always waiting naked and ass up for Him. i was always impressed that He was able to get it in because of the size, but He always did. i really grew to love Him for His desire, He always left an enormous load inside of me.

i think You've gotten some wonderful responses here. i also think hntnhole is spot on. i think some of the feelings You are experiencing are empathetic, and in a way, You are feeling what Your friend is feeling. We cannot control so many of the hard things that life brings our way, but by being empathetic, You helped him carry those feelings so he was not alone with them.

"Most patients hospitalized for monkeypox were HIV-positive in CDC report Summary by Ground News Study looked at cases of 57 U.S. patients hospitalized with severe monkeypox complications. Almost all (83%) had severely weakened immune systems, most often because of infection with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) Many of those patients were not being treated for the virus that causes AIDS." [think before following links] https://ground.news/article/most-patients-hospitalized-for-monkeypox-were-hiv-positive-in-cdc-report_81cad5

i don't think i've ever had an anal orgasm. From the way i've read it described, i think i'd know lol. i have ejaculated on several occasions from being fucked, but that is different from what i read as an "anal orgasm." i've bought way too many prostate massagers (they make them all way too small in my experience), and even own a fuck machine. i admit, i have a psychological block with penetrating myself, so that may be part of it. i feel like i have come close to something with some Men fucking me, but "close" may have been ejaculate or anal orgasm, and since it has not happened, idk. For me, this would be the ideal orgasm as a total bottom, both physically and psychologically.

Glory holes have always been a part of my sex life with Men, but never really transitioned from top to bottom with Men, always as a bottom. i discovered my first GH's as a young kid when i'd just go in the restroom and sit and read the wall, full of desire and need, but too afraid and repressed to act on my desires. Some of my earliest sex with Guys was under bathroom stall walls, i got bred that way a lot. GH sex has been a staple in my life right up till the pandemic hit. There's something very focused about GH sex, it's simple, uncomplicated. Usually always starts out as cock sucking, but i always offer my ass. Some take it, some do not. Then there is the middle ground where i suck, then do a quick turn around and mount th Man presenting His hard cock through the wall, and sometimes can feel the surprise of the Man on the other side. Sometimes they withdraw and let me know they only wanna be sucked, but other times i have felt a moment of hesitation when they get something they did not expect, but cannot help themselves and end up getting into the fuck. It's an almost palpable feeling to feel Him go from hesitation to full on fuck and breed.

Good point ErosWired. i don't mean to mislead. i too have very good insurance and qualify for the pharm assist. i have never directly paid for my ART meds. i say "directly" because i do have to consider, for instance, if i left my job, would i still be able to have the same coverage. Also, when you take ART, you are tethered to it, dependent. You have to make sure you always have meds available.

i responded to this thread a year ago when it first started... fast forward to now and i've had a little experience with drinking from the tap now. i've had experience of Men pissing deep in my ass for years, and absolutely love that. Half of those experiences, they just did it with no discussion. i am lucky because it goes into my 'second hole' (beyond the sigmoic curve) and once it is there, it's pretty easy for me to retain. i've slept with it overnight on several occasions and that gives my body a chance to absorb a lot of His piss. i love that because that is a form of Him impregnating me. For a few years, i've fantasized about drinking from the tap. For me it's a deeply psychological experience. i don't like the taste of piss and don't relate to those who drink their or a Mans piss from a glass. For me, it's all about receiving His piss from His cock. So, the thing that drives me and helps me overcome the taste thing is the psychological factors, and that is pretty specific for me. i'm not into bullying or force at all from a Man. The way i am wired (and i'm not making this universal, this is just me), if a Man is a bully or forceful, He is not connecting with me and actully shuts me down. It's a Mans desire/need/lust to use and have me that opens me wide to Him. So when i see the lust or even need in a Man to use me as His receptacle, it evokes my own lust/need/desire to have Him inside of me in all of HIs forms. And that lust/need/desire overcomes my distaste for piss and my fear of it. Since last year when this thread started, i've had several opportunities to drink from the tap with two Men. my fears prior were twofold: taste and quantity. i was worried if i'd be able to take the taste. i'd done lots of research and reading already, i'm also a critical care nurse, so i'm very familiar with assessing piss lol. i actually chart quantity, concentration and oder as part of my profession, so i know a lot about piss. So far, my experience drinking from the tap has been strong, concentrated piss, and i honestly did not like the taste. i was surprised and kind of proud of my ability to take quantity. That has worried me when i fantasized about drinking from a Mans cock because psychologically i didn't want to waste any, and i wanted to be able to please Him by taking Him without spilling or spitting it out. i want to convey how much i want and value Him. For me, that is part of the mind fuck for both of us, that He can get off on me being His toilet. i can connect and satisfy the lust in Him that even what is generally considered waste by Him and others, is something i both want and He can get me to need. i see a lot of long term potential in relationship with WS as a sort of collaring place. So, for me, i am still learning how to take it and need more practice. i'd like to experience a Man Who's piss is dilute, not strong, like others have described. So far, it's been strong and while the quantity was no problem for me, the taste overwhelmed me and i had to stop after a certain amount. i do believe if all the psychological factors are in play, i will learn to take a Man's piss no matter what, but admit i am still developing my ability to do that.

By the standards set forth in this proposed law, the Jewish and Christian bible would be prohibited, here's an example from 2 Samuel 6:16; 1 Samuel 19:24: 16 As the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal the daughter of Saul lookedout of the window and saw King David leaping and dancing before the LORD, and she despised him in her heart. 24 And he too stripped off his clothes, and he too prophesied before Samuel and lay naked all that day and all that night. Thus it is said, “Is Saul also among the prophets?” "11 (a) FEDERAL FUNDS LIMITATION.—No Federal 12 funds may be made available to develop, implement, facili- 13 tate, or fund any sexually-oriented program, event, or lit- 14 erature for children under the age of 10, including hosting 15 or promoting any program, event, or literature involving 16 sexually-oriented material, or any program, event, or lit- 17 erature that exposes children under the age of 10 to nude 18 adults, individuals who are stripping, or lewd or lascivious 19 dancing." i remember when i was 8 years old laughing with my boy friends while at church as we shared and discussed these bible verses with each other. The double standards of some religious folk overlook heteronormative stuff and call this: "God's word." "1 Kings 1:1-4-1-4 The Message (MSG) King David grew old. The years had caught up with him. Even though they piled blankets on him, he couldn’t keep warm. So his servants said to him, “We’re going to get a young virgin for our master the king to be at his side and look after him; she’ll get in bed with you and arouse our master the king.” So they searched the country of Israel for the most ravishing girl they could find; they found Abishag the Shunammite and brought her to the king. The girl was stunningly beautiful; she stayed at his side and looked after the king, but the king did not have sex with her." Ezekiel 23:19-20 Evangelical Heritage Version 19 Yet she increased her whoring. She remembered the days of her youth when she acted like a prostitute in the land of Egypt. 20 She lusted after her paramours, whose genitals[a] were like the genitals of donkeys and whose ejaculation was like the ejaculation of horses.

Here are excerpts from the proposed bill and a link to the bill if one wishes to bypass media reporting about the bill and see exactly what is being proposed: "5 (2) Federal funds should not be used to expose 6 children under 10 years of age to sexually-oriented 7 material. 15 (e) DEFINITIONS.—In this section: 16 (1) SEXUALLY-ORIENTED MATERIAL.—The 17 term ‘‘sexually-oriented material’’ means... any topic involving gender iden- 21 tity, gender dysphoria, transgenderism, sexual ori- 22 entation, or related subjects." [think before following links] https://mikejohnson.house.gov/uploadedfiles/johnla_083_xml.pdf

Couple of thoughts on fear. "Fear" can be natures way of trying to protect us, giving us a heads-up. Fear can also be a conditioned response and is not always reasonable. And a lot of times, it's some of both. i think one can push back against fear, we often try to meet it with reason, but fear isn't something that can just be easily turned on or off. ' i agree with those who advocate facing the reasons for fear with reason. Add parts to your life that will address the reasons for fear: e.g., get on PrEP, get protective vaccines like Covid, Monkey Pox, get routinely checked for STD's. These are things we can do to help protect us. On the other hand, life is full of risk. Do we stop driving a car because of the risk of an accident? Do we stop going to the theater or grocery store because we might catch the flu? Do we stop eating because we might get food poisoning? Do we stop having sex because we might get an STD? Some find they can crowd fear out by telling their self that getting a disease, or risking the same, is 'fun.' You do not seem to fall into that category. i'd like to underline that one and weigh in on not joining the disease if fun idea. You are 25. At this point, HIV is a lifetime disease where you have to take expensive meds daily to survive. Unless you are into FinDom, i cannot see the fun in that. "HIV treatments can be expensive. HIV care involves a type of medication called antiretroviral therapy (ART) and regular visits with your doctor. One study estimated that costs of this care could run anywhere between $1,800 to $4,500 each month during a person’s lifetime. Most of this, about 60%, comes from the high cost of ART medications." [think before following links] https://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/hiv-treatment-cost

i don't have a particularly small penis, but i do not think or feel like i have a "cock" or "dick." Nah, i'm not delusional. i know i have a penis betwixt my legs, but for me the feelings, and subsequent thoughts i have about my physical attributes are inextricably part of my psychosexual wiring (and from what i read of other bottoms, i think this is true about a lot of us on the far end of the sexual spectrum). For me a cock/dick is about penetrating, fucking, breeding. It's a part of a Man that He uses to connect both physical and psychological needs/desires. i'm wired to receive those needs/desires as a corresponding natural cock/dick receiver. i encounter some Tops who understand this, and some who do not. Some guys (Top, bottom or versatile, and everywhere in between), do not go beyond their own wiring when it comes to understanding. We may not be able to relate to someone who is not like us, but we can understand. i think those who work to understand end up having the better connections and sex life because the more we understand the type person we need/want, the more likely we are to have solid, deep experiences/connections/relationships. A certain kind of Top, one at the opposite far end of the spectrum from me, may not relate to my not having a cock/dick, but a part of Him desires that in a bottom. When He sees and understands that, He looks for a bottom who meets His desire/need. i've encountered all sorts of expressions of that from different Tops. One Man i've been with had a strong drive to internalize my penis. Literally. He wanted to push it into my pelvic cavity and make it look like a pussy. He even got me some devices that some trans people wear to tuck their penis and testicles. Other Tops do not acknowledge it at all, while others still, love to use it to 'frustrate' any use of my penis for sexual release and use that stimulation to focus my sexual energy. lol. those are some thoughts on "small dick" in a holistic vs just physical sense.