tallslenderguy

i think this is a great point. It seems with male/female sex there is less space for 'just' sex, that there has to be preamble of some sort. Guys seem to be able to fuck instantly, without much prelude, to fuck just for the sake of fucking. And i love that about being a guy.

i think this way too. i often look at it as a physics thing, opposites attract, positive and negatively charged particles naturally attracted to each other and bonding. It's obviously not a new phenomena, the idea of yin/yang has been around a long time.

i think it's both, or it can be, if one has no regard for the other. my feel is that one of the things that makes for insatiation is the need for something more, that we are not filling the 'hole' with everything it actually needs, so it remains un[ful]filled? i was married when i first started getting bred by guys. i was also very religious and didn't accept who i was. my anonymous encounters were a way of my minimizing the contact that i had with guys. my own particular addictive disposition was related to self loathing, i hated myself for who i was and what i was doing, but it was my only means of affirmation and that part of me (the 'gay' part) needed that to survive. i did anonymous sex with guys for so many years it became a familiar pattern for me and was pretty much all i knew when it came to intimate contact with another guy. After i came to a place of peace and self acceptance, the addictive part fell away immediately, but my need for being with a guy didn't. But by that time, anonymous was all i really knew or experienced, but my feel is it's a compromise for what i really need, i.e., a more substantial relationship. But i don't look at "substantial" as equal to traditional, i like the freedom we have to reinvent relationship. For instance, after years of anonymous sex, walk in dump and go, i actually slept in the same bed as my Top, and that felt really good too. i look at cum dumping as a sexual equivalent of fast food. we all know McDonalds is junk food and eating nothing but McDonalds is unhealthy, but if that's the only thing one allows their self to eat, one will gorge when hungry. To me, not getting what we really need makes us all that more hungry, needy and dependent on what we get.

How can you tell if the beetle or worm cums?

i've never been locked in chastity long term, and then it was just me trying it on my own. It didn't last for me, and i think that speaks to a psychological aspect of chastity. The reason it didn't work for me is because i'm not dom and so i couldn't effectively be my own dom by simply wearing a chastity device. To me, if the device is not connected to Someone, then it's lost a good deal of its effect. i did have a online D/s relationship and my Dom took me through a process of measuring for a device, but we never got to the place of actually getting one and me wearing it because the online relationship wasn't sustainable. Still, just the process of measuring had an effect. He had me measure my penis every day and send Him a picture of my penis next to a measuring tape. He also had me wear different plastic rings that were different sizes to see how my penis and testicles would respond to wearing them, what was too tight, what was too loose, etc.. He demonstrated care for the process of locking the penis in chastity, and that care left an imprint on me. To me the most obvious part of being locked in chastity would be the loss of being able to have any orgasm control and the constant reminder of that loss. The result for me would be to be perpetually horny, or always at an easy edge of being horny. i'm at my most malleable when i'm horny, so being locked would make and keep me easier to direct, because that is when my desire to please is at its highest. my desire to please and horniness are connected. For me, there would be a sort of fear or embarrassment factor as well. Thoughts like: "what if i got in an accident and had to go to the hospital" or any public venue where it might be exposed. That thought would often be with me, at least at first. i suppose long term that concern would wane, but the horniness would just get more intense and thus the dependence on the Dom would also become more intense.

So, is that the barrier for you? That you'll be "hooked?" Hmmm, this made me think of my own experience. i fought accepting myself for most of my life (was married to a woman and religious). i had tons of sex with guys, cheated on my wife, but hated myself the whole time. For me, sex with guys was my only form of affirmation for who i am and i could truly not help myself from doing it. When i came to a place of self acceptance, the addictive nature of sex dropped away for me. i still want it and need it, but "hooked" is probably a wrong descriptor for that need/want. i think that our sexual needs/wants are natural and normal and it's the suppression and/or repression of who we are that can lead to obsession. If you love being penetrated physically as well as in your imagination, then i'd have to agree with you that you are not being true to yourself by forbidding what you want. We can only guess what's going on in your mind or feelings as to why that is, your really in the best position to know that since you live with you. Maybe a therapist could help you uncover if there is a hidden reason. But from what you have written, you seem to be afraid of being "hooked" once you try it... but again, i think "hooked" is probably a misnomer that we are using. That it's kind of like saying you are hooked on food because you are hungry and eating.

i don't know how to answer this other than offer my thoughts, but not sure they will be at all helpful. Have you ever had anything in your ass? Like toys or finger or any other kind of penetration? Are you ambivalent about being penetrated? You note you love cock and semen, but have only experienced it by sucking. i can't relate (lol) but i know there are guys who are only into oral, maybe you're one of those and maybe you are being true to your self? Do you like the feeling of being penetrated anally? On the other hand, if you've had stuff in your hole and know that you like it, that's a whole different matter. Most bottoms will probably tell you it only takes one cock up the ass to get hooked.

i think it's sort of sad, i hat the idea of guys feeling rejected. i know some guys are either ignorant of social cues, or simply ignore them, and they don't seem to realize that their behavior exacerbates their problem of being rejected. i'm pretty sensitive and fold if there's any hint that i might not be wanted, i don't think i've ever spent more than 10 minutes occupying a sling or bench if there are no takers. The clubs i have been in, it doesn't take all that long to make the rounds, so once i see the same guy pass by a second time, i know it's time to vacate. Also, the clubs where i've gone generally have more than one or two slings, so even if someone does plant their self in a sling, if guys aren't interested they just use the other slings or go to the other guys in slings. Clubs can be a harsh environment, a sort of meat market where everyone is naked and on display. i've never bred a guy like Eros describes, but that's because i'm not really a breeder. i've sucked a lot of obvious club "rejects" before and they usually seem pretty grateful for the attention. i've surprised myself by the connections i have made when i get past my own visual bias. i won't compete for cock, if i feel like there are too many bottoms in a place at one time and they start to compete, i'll leave. i hate pettiness or meaness. i think the kind of person Eros is describing has entitlement issues.

i was getting ready for work this morning, early, was about ten after six, and i hear a light tap at my front door. i looked out the window and there was a stranger standing there. i asked him what he needed (it was still dark outside), and he said he must have the wrong address... but he just stood there and smiled at me. i realized that he wanted to hook, but i work at a hospital and had to go to work. i had no idea who this guy was, not sure if i had hooked with him before (i'm always face down when someone comes to my house). The other thought i had was maybe he was one of those guys who'd gotten my address before and flaked, or i thought maybe someone else i had hooked with or who had my address had arranged a hook up, then used my address? Either way, i have no idea who he was, but damn i wish i'd been abel to hook with him.

i don't have any piercings, so i can only speak to taste and not experience. For me, PA's are a Top piercing, really, any kind of piercing on the actual shaft strikes me emotionally as a Top accessory. Taint piercings, nips, ears, all strike me as more bottom. Probably no rhyme or reason for it, jus the way they make me feel personally. From the comments, everyone is different.

This link is essentially the published study, the info is reliable. A little info for those interested: HIV is a virus and, as such, requires a host for replication. I.e., HIV cannot reproduce on its own, it invades a cell and uses its hosts DNA to reproduce. What made it so deadly was HIV's ability to mutate rapidly. The way we finally achieved suppression was by med combinations that resist the virus at more than one point. Sort of like instead of cutting off only and arm, the combo meds cut of an arm and a couple of legs. Essentially, the anti retroviral therapy (ART), reduces the levels of HIV to "undetectable" thus removing the deadly aspect of the virus, which is the virus ability to decimate the immune system. With ART, the immune system can recover and remain intact, so people don't progress to AID's and thus stay alive and relatively healthy. The London Man are cool progress because it demonstrates repeatability of the Berlin Man, who has been HIV free for 10 years. The process was even less aggressive in the London Man, yet still appears to have succeeded 18 months later. Both used bone marrow transplant which process involves wiping out the immune system then replacing it with someone else's (i.e., stem cell transplant). In each case, the donor cells were from donors who have the genetic mutation where the CCR5 receptors are missing from the their cell surface, receptors that HIV needs to gain access to a cell and its DNA so it can reproduce. So, not unlike ART, this method employs hitting HIV from a couple of directions and it appears, so far, to irradiate HIV from the body. The thing that makes scientists excited about the "London Man" is that they were able to replicate the "Berlin Man." The London Man has been free of HIV for 18 months, the Berlin Man 10 years. This is new and rare (only two cases) results, so terms like "remission" are being used instead of "cure." We did/do the same with cancer. Terms like "remission" are used when we do not have enough experience or replicated evidence to apply the term "cure." No one is considering this a viable treatment for HIV, especially with the success of ART, but it is exciting to see it's possible for the virus to be removed from the body.

Awesome, eh? I’m almost obsessed with holding what a Top puts in me, ive slept overnight with it and even if I have the urge to evacuate, i resist. I do the same with loads of cum, I just tell my body to hold it. I recommend holding it, it can be done

i know, right? And sometimes, even less. i swear there seems to be something magical about it sometimes. i have been driving down the street on more than one occasion and had a guy make eye contact and we both knew instantly. Once i was driving down a main street and a guy pulled up next to me, made eye contact then pulled ahead and in front of me. i followed Him to a Burger King parking lot. He got out of his car, without looking back, and went in to the restaurant and into the restroom. i followed Him into the restroom (a private one) and He locked the door behind me and without a word, pulled my pants down around me knees, turned me around and bent me over, pulled his cock out and proceeded to put His cock in me. i was dry, so i spat in my hand and wet my hole for Him and He slid in, fucked and bred me, put His cock back in His pants and left, again, never a word spoken. i had to rush to get my pants up in case someone came in after.

Yeah, this. It's so hot to me when there is thought behind the act of breeding. For me, poppers is like a chemical door opener and i love it when a Top knows that and uses them for that purpose. i get no turn on from a Top using poppers on Himself. i know some tops get soft or lose there drive to breed when they use them, so i am not thrilled when i see a top take a hit, even though i know not all tops are effected that way. But, when a Top uses them on a bottom to make the bottom hornier, more pliant or to relax his hole for entry, it's a total leg spreader for me.

^^This^^ For me, the "feeding from His essence" are combined with subtle humiliation and degradation and are extremely powerful. Overt humiliation and degradation usually have the opposite effect on me, like the top is not really sure of himself and has to use force to prove something to himself. my first experience with ws was with a FB who bred me about once a week. Was always the same scenario, anonymous walk in with me naked and face down on my bed waiting to receive Him. He'd typically rim me, then mount and breed me, then leave. This time, after coming, i felt Him relax on me... which was not unusual. He didn't always just pull out and leave after breeding, sometimes He'd linger inside for awhile and this time started that way. But then i felt His cock twitching and a few moments later started to get a fuller feeling inside and realized that He was pissing inside of me. At first, i was startled, but He anticipated that. He had been breeding me for several months and knew me pretty well. He continued to hold me under the weight of His body, not in a forceful way, more in a reassuring way. First, He whispered in my ear how good it felt to Him... and He knew that i would like that. i did, and my body pretty much immediately relaxed under Him. When He felt me relax, He continued: "you like My piss in you, don't you?" And when i answered "yes," He continued: "you're now My piss slut," and He totally had me... and He knew it.

Typos don't bother me all that much, if at all, when i am reading what someone else has written. But autocorrect makes me absolutely crazy sometimes... to the point that i am cursing at my phone or computer when it keeps happening. i typically catch it while it's happening, and that's the part that bothers me, having to correct autocorrect.

i've had several experiences, including my first, where a Top pissed in me after breeding me (without asking permission), each time they pulled out without spilling a drop. i may have an unsusal ability to hold onto fluid?, but i've been stealth pissed a couple of times at an ABS and didn't realize it till i got home. i think my 'second sphincter' must be exceptionally tight, i have to be careful after douching to make sure i get all the water out. So, if a Top pisses beyond that point, it's pretty well contained with me.

oh yeah, i moan. i don't make noises on purpose, i feel awkward trying to "talk dirty" (though i honestly love it when my top does). But i've had all sorts of involuntary sounds come out of me, pretty much every top gets moans from me. Sometimes, when a top has fucked me in a way where i get sort of overwhelmed, i've been known to growl and flail my head lol. Often there are teeth marks on my mattress from where i have bitten it, not out of pain, but out of intensity. Then there has been the few times where my Top made love to me (can't think of another way to put it) and i have pretty much had to bite my tongue to keep from saying: "i love you" to a perfect stranger lest they think i'm out of my mind.

As i see it, you nailed (so to speak) the reason in your first sentence when you identified your "... need to breed." To me, the underlying drive to be bred or to breed is a "need" that expresses itself in desire. i think most of us here on breeding zone get that at least instinctively, if not cognitively. To me, the dynamic between Top/bottom speaks to the physical reality of opposites attracting (an electron and proton cannot help their attraction to each other). Even though we're seemingly on a continuum when it comes to our sexuality, some are more Top and some are more bottom. The greater the distinction, the stronger the bond when they connect. i think many of our social constructs deny nature and fail because of that.

You definitely sound like you have bottom wiring. i am convinced "bottoms" wiring goes beyond the physical, that it's emotional too, and i think for some the emotional part is the bigger part... i know it is for me. Maybe part of your "curiosity" of bi discovery will be to find out if you can get the same response with a girl who may want to peg or fist you. i dated a trans person for awhile (FtM) who fucked by using his hand since he was not born with a cock. For me, there was something missing and i never had sex with him. It had nothing to do with his not having a cock. i've been penetrated by guys who used toys or their fingers/hand, and their inner energy was so connected to it that for me it was not really different from their using their cock. i've also been with guys who were not 'connected' to what they were doing, even when using their cock, and i could feel something missing.

Yes. i've written about this in other threads, but i had a FB (actually, when i lived in Louisville ? ) who made it His goal to change my hole. His thing was changing it from 'just an asshole to a pussy." It was not a feminizing thing, it was all part of His mind fuck and i adore Him to this day. my hole is definitely changed. The opening is more a slit instead of a pucker now, and it is easier for a Top and cock to access. It's definitely more suited to receiving than retaining. my inner hole varies. Sometimes the tissue swells and i can feel every bit of any cock that enters me, other times, it's just an opened hole. i personally don't ever miss the feeling between a large and smaller cock, my head is so into the whole idea of a Top wanting and needing to breed that size just doesn't enter into the equation that much for me. Of course, i can feel the difference, but my thrill and fulfillment comes from my Tops energy and drive to breed. The most satisfying part of sex for me is when i hear the orgasm response of my Top to fucking me. i know from what you have written that you have plenty of control over your inner hole muscles, that you are able to squeeze and milk a cock and know about the exercises to keep it toned. Still, i wouldn't doubt that your hole has been modified and marked by the Tops who have loved it.

i love to read/hear of stuff like this. i've known more than a few guys in open marriages, where their partner/wife knows who they are and still loves and accepts them as they are. It's wonderful to see people break out of tradition when it doesn't fit reality.

lol, yeah, it is an awesome connection, eh? my older gay brother used to joke: "if god had intended men to get fucked, he would have given them an ass hole."

i think you've gone a wee bit byond the "curious" stage. ?

i married as a kid and was married for 31 years. i was very religious and my belief system considered being gay a "sin." my former wife knew of my attraction to guys before we married, but it wasn't taken very seriously, the notion was it's a choice. i was a virgin when i married and resisted being with a guy for the first 6 years of our marriage, and then i tumbled. Ironically, sucked a guy off when i was doing volunteer work on a missionary hospital ship. i didn't tell her what had happened, but i separated from her after that, feeling guilty and that i was gay and not going to change. That separation lasted about 6 months. i did love her, felt guilty about abandoning her and my little kids. The gay culture didn't appeal to me (i'd only experienced a tiny side of it). i still had a part me that thought being gay is a choice, so we got back together. i thought i was "over it." Of course, i wasn't. i cheated like a mad man. Sex for me became my only form of affirmation. i'd hook, then feel ashamed and guilty about it. i'd often cry on my way to hooking up or after. For me, it was torture. It took me what i consider a ridiculously long time to process through my beliefs and realize that reality and my beliefs didn't aline. In 2006, i came to a place where i had processed through all the stuff that kept me from self acceptance. i told my former wife: " this is who i am, we can stay married, but if we do you have to understand you are married to a gay person." She was still religious and of the belief that i could choose not to be gay, so after some marriage counseling, we parted. Marriage, for me, was a tortured, painful existence. Not because of being with a woman, i loved and still love my former wife. But because of our beliefs, it didn't work. i hated myself for all the lies and cheating, that was the "torture" for me. i hated how i hurt my former wife, she was devastated when she found out about my lying and cheating. Today, i am the happiest, most peaceful person i know. Honesty cost me pretty much everything, but it was and is worth it to me.