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I'll buy the first round for all of us ... and then we can get down to business ...

or, the Darkstain state - formerly known as the Sunshine state. Thanks to His Dullness, the farm workers have been leaving FL in droves, leaving the crops to rot in the fields. Many seasonable vegetables are simply not available, and when they are, the p.p.p is breathtaking. Only fresh produce brought in by train from other areas is reliable these days. Give the forbidden books, the MickeyWars, the repressions of almost everyone, there are school teachers leaving the state now, looking for teaching positions in other states now that Summer break is upon us, and I don't blame them, This cretin ruins everything he touches, leaving not much alone. I wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear the the refrains of Die Fahne Hoch echoing through the streets one of these days. There's a major 4-lane, N/S arterial called Powerline Road on the western side of Ft.L. The other day I saw a ratty old pickup with guys in the truckbed in ratty, old jackets/pants, cobbled-together bits of worn out trash they were hoping looked reminiscent of uniforms. They had unspeakable flags nailed to 8' dowels, driving the length of the road, turning around, going back the opposite way, grinning like drooling idiots escaped from some asylum. I don't think DullSantis could be elected street-sweeper/dogshitpickerupper these days,

The "grammar police" gave up a looooong time ago ....

I've sampled the action in a lot of places, but nothing beats Berlin !!! Expecially Folsom-in-Berlin (where is that piggy emoticon ...)

What a great idea ... thanks for sharing it. When I take the dog out, I don't carry the wallet. I use a little leather photo-holder from an old wallet with a photocopy of my id. But, like your Grandpa, I carry the cash in a front pocket, but not because I want a blowjob from one of these guys. There's one particularly unfortunate homeless guy that usually asks if I want to fuck him. I doubt he's showered in years now, and I do prefer some small measure of cleanliness 🤢

It's not that I simply wouldn't - but paying for sex seems a bit too gutteral to me. I do carry a few bucks walking the dog, since there are a some homeless in my neighborhood, and it's not up to me to judge why that is. It just is, and everyone gets hungry. I also "kept" a cumdump for a few years, but that was for my own pleasure - it was more of an investment than anything else. In the fuckjoints, pecuniary advances would just turn me off.

I think it was H. Richard Niebuhr, whose "work" I don't admire, advanced a thiiiiin line of reasoning that Paul was himself gay, based on certain non-canonical letters. This goes way back to undergrad days/required courses at that institution, and I haven't researched any of his stuff, but - thought I'd mention it. He was probably sucking off the altar boys at the time anyway. I'm so pleased that entire ball of shit got flushed out of my mind as early as it did.

One logical place to start would be the offshore bank accounts of members of Congress. Just sayin ....

I heard years ago that our (in the US) "gay" is a translation of the French word "gai", meaning "cheerful". Never researched it ... just mentioning.

I suggest making certain you know what you want, will allow, will not allow. Take the time/effort to figure out what it is you truly want out of sex. If you decide you want it safe, great. Make that clear right up front. If you decide on safer, great. Say so. If you want it raw, great. Make that clear too. The profile isn't exactly full of information, so if you're not on PReP, by all means get on it. Get tested for the lesser bugs regularly. It's your health, so make your decisions carefully. The point is, you are in control of your body, not someone else. Then you won't need to try to figure out what the other guy might/might not do. Good luck, and let us know how things are progressing !

Well, that's a new one to me .... no guy in the fuckjoints has ever asked me for money, probably because he'd price himself right out of business since there are so many other Holes gladly taking loads for free.

Not that I was counting, but - I don't recall any diminution of rawmen doing what they must last November ......

Perfect !!! The Big Con finally reduced to a one-word descriptor !!!

🙄 This ^ is the sum total of what I think about "no nut November", "sex-free September", "jackoff January", "fuck-free February", "mouth-on-toes March", "don't-touch-ass April", "yes-you-may-worship-earlobes-May", blah blah blah.

That's the case here in the US as well. Lots of younger guys don't have the patience to enter into contractual relationships, too wrapped up in searching out shallow thrills-of-the-day to invest in values/worth that lasts a lifetime. It's a sorrow, but it's the way of the world, I guess. What are "Cash Masters"? I've no idea what you're alluding to .....

Thanks, Willing, for the kind words. If I could still blush, I would - but it's been years - I don't quite remember how .......

Welcome, Max. Your experiences are shared by many on BZ (excluding perhaps the flashing 😄). We're looking forward to hearing more from you.

I agree. Depending on the circumstance (singular). I had a trusted friend/fuckbud during covid, and we helped each other get through it. While I don't like it at all, I did let him fuck me occasionally (I can't imagine that it was attractiveness of my ass - that's impossible), and he was <polite cough> modestly endowed. I did it more because he needed to Top occasionally, we got along well, and he was giving me his Hole. It seemed only fair, and the usual places were closed for the duration, so I just gritted my teeth and took it. He just needed the connection, even though he was mostly bottom. Win/win in difficult circumstances, I guess.

They're trying to give you the best fuck possible by aiming directly (as opposed to obliquely) for the prostate.

Thank you, minthulf & gay4funwaco !!! It's been almost 6 months since I stirred that pot, and a number of the responses were interesting and reasonable. I was hoping for some more in-depth responses, and here they are. You two, however, gave us well-reasoned, well-written, comprehensive responses that many in the US could do well to bookmark and read again and again. I hope both of you write on other blogs, thus sharing your insights with a wider audience. Many thanks !!!

After reading through these replies, there must be some other facet influencing the lack of sexual connections. EW points out that sexual thoughts pass through the minds of most men many times a day, even if only for an instant, no matter where in the world they happen to live, no matter what the gender of the target is. Cultural repressions seem too weak an influencer to be wholly responsible, since those would be applicable to both Tops and bottoms, I understand that there has been - at least as long as I've been sexually active - a generally accepted perception that there are more guys drawn to bottoming than Topping, and that seems to ring true. I've always believed that the preference/inclination is something that's naturally inborn in us, but that doesn't make it true for everyone else.

If most folks are a combination of the intro/extro, and that's likely, I guess I'm somewhere around 80% extrovert, 20% introvert.

It's really great to feel like that, isn't it !!! Sounds like you're on the right track though. Little by little, he seems to be increasingly aware not only of himself, but you as well. I'm guessing that he's unsure of himself, careful not to "go too far", all of that. Give him all the time he needs, and enjoy the bud that is beginning to open into full bloom. Makes me smile ..... I'm guessing he may not "know" either. But that's part of the thrill - growing into your respective maturities sexually - and making that journey together. Thanks for the update; you're both lucky guys.

Agreed, and thanks for the that. It is entirely unreasonable to expect anything more than "play" based on nothing but the sexual component. Still, I tried to offer the guy that asked about "ownership-play" some advice. The entire meaning of Ownership carries far more depth than merely playing around with some bonds. It carries a far deeper connection than mere "play". Agreed as well, unfortunately. There may well be lots of guys here on BZ that have no idea of the subject. But, that's the way of the world, it seems. Still, there are some of us that took part, remember how enriching the real deal is, was, and are grateful for the depth it brought to our lives. I know I've lived a better life as a Leatherman, despite the fact that I seldom wear the hides anymore. The organizations, gathering places have faded, and it's just too damn hot here for it.

No, I don't think it is, at least within the parameters of a classic Dom/sub construct (Ownership) observant of the Leather Ethic. The answer to that dilemma is, the Dom sends his boy over to a trusted friend (almost certainly also a Leatherman) for use. Less-likely, but certainly possible, the Dom can send his property out to a fuckjoint to take loads. A Cock-hungry sub can invent all kinds of innocuous ways to make his Dom/Owner "aware" that his thirst is not being sated, which then becomes the Dom's issue to figure out. That kind of situation does invite revisiting the initial negotiation, which should be revisited occasionally anyway. If the Ownership relationship (that was awkward, but) is to remain strong and true, consider that both the Dom and the sub are human beings that are constantly growing intellectually, emotionally, sexually, and the original parameters (or contract, as you mention) can be revisited when appropriate. Even in the het world, marriages between opposite sex sometimes need to be refreshed. I remember as a kid, when my mom wanted her own car (we had one at the time, which my dad drove to work every day). They went into their bedroom, closed the door, and the torrent of Swedish was tremendous, and she did get her own car. Another 6-cylinder Chev, unfortunately. We're all living, growing, constantly evolving men, and the flexibility of the limits can and should be revisited occasionally. Some men call it a "time out", where the initial negotiation is suspended for the duration of the exchange. Some call it by other names. The point is, to recognize that it's entirely correct and appropriate to reexamine the foundational bedrock from time to time. If new limits are in order, that's fine. If the differences are irreconcilable, then the two men have grown in different directions, and each has grown, learned, and is a better man. The whole point of Ownership is, one man (often more experienced) enriches the other (often less so) in many amazing ways. That's the goal of Ownership in the first place - or any other loving, caring, enriching relationship, for that matter.