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i'm more of a big picture guy. To me a Mans cock is always more than an organ between His legs, it's also His horny desire/need to use that organ that attracts me. When i perceive desire from another man, i typically present (i.e., offer my ass) in some fashion, at the very least usually involves turning my backside towards them and casually touching it to draw Their attention to my intention. If the desire is there, They usually let me know in some way. It's the wonderful gay mating dance.

Wow! What a wonderful post. Thank you for this Tanbbottom. Like many, we have a lot in common. i too have a religious background that led to a 31 year marriage to a woman. i too love/loved this person, and i think she did me in some ways, though her beliefs made it impossible for her to wholly love and accept me. i spent a big chunk of my life admitting i'm attracted to Men, while believing because of that conditioning that i was twisted and broken. All those years of trying to change turned out to be me processing through, and out of, the cultural conditioning that made me both think and feel i was 'sick, sinful, broken, etc., etc.." i think a lot of guys stay stuck, or carry baggage from being conditioned against the reality of who and how they are, because instead of processing through it, they give up and 'rebel' against it. i single quote "rebel" because i that is the conditioned word for it, the truth is what is often "rebelled" against, with no small amount of cognitive dissonance, turns out to be a paper tiger when seen in process. As i see it, monogamy is often guarded by that paper tiger. i think discussions like this that question and examine the reasons and emotions we have regarding norms like monogamy, can expose the good and bad in the concept and free us from absolutist conditioned emotions and ideas that, often unconsciously, accompany it/them. i'd give you a lot more credit for communication skill than you seem to give yourself, i think you communicate beautifully in your post. To me, one of the biggest impediments to communicate is fear of vulnerability. That fear causes one to hide feelings or thoughts (often even from our self) that one perceives puts them at risk for rejection, or worse. The price tag for that fear and hiding is we cannot communicate or find acceptance without exposure and vulnerability, so we can find ourselves alone... even in our most intimate relationships. i think making a rule out of monogamy, or many other relational rules, often discourages open communication and thwarts the very bond it supposedly supports.

i love this! i have a thing for mind fuck, and for me, that usually comes in the form of Guys who don't fit the stereotype. in this case, a young twink in lace panties who turns out to be a Dom Top. That is soooooo hot.

Oh fuck, great post. Damn, there was a time when i lived in public washrooms, sitting in a stall waiting for someone to come in and then, cum in. There was a time when we as gays were illegal and finding each other in secret was one of the ways we connected with those of our kind. i did A LOT of connecting, but never had to leave my number. As a sexually repressed kid, i'd go and sit for hours just wanting to be around guys who wanted guys. Even though i wasn't brave enough to have sex with guys, reading the stall walls nurtured ad affirmed me in a way.

Just barely walked Him to the door. It's been awhile since i have hooked with someone besides my sweet FB, who i love and appreciate. This guy was older, 59, and lied about his weight... had quite a gut on Him. But i'm experienced enough to know guys lie, He still had the energy, need and desire to penetrate a bottom and breed. He told me ahead of time that He liked to take time, really liked to get His cock sucked first, then flip a bottom on his stomach and take His time opening and fucking. He's a grower vs shower. He started out small and flaccid, which does;t bother me in the least, as long as He can get hard and fuck, i don't really care what He has. Still, i was surprised. His cock was not particularly long, but it was thick. Thicker than i realized while sucking Him. i guess since He wasn't way long, i didn't notice as much how thick He was. Till He flipped me on my stomach and pushed in. i have a well used slash, i probably am over confident about What i can receive, but this Man made me yelp with surprise, not pain, but He got my attention fast. And He kept hitting my prostate and knew He was. There was a puddle of precum under me that He milked out with HIs cock. Fuck, He opened me wide and almost had me conquered really fast, but i didn't want to disappoint Him, and started squeezing the hell out of HIs cock with my ass muscles... my turn to return the surprise. He really liked that, which of course made me feel so good, i pushed my ass back into His pubis, right where His prostate is, while squeezing His cock. He liked that too. Fuck, i was in heaven. When He shot, He bred me deep and by then i was His, He had me and pulled out with slippery ass massage and spanks. i have one of those 'wrecked' holes right now, Awesome wrecked. i was a blithering idiot, grateful to be bred faggot. The way He talks, i think He wants to be a regular FB. Hell yeah.

Ah, You're such a sweet and affirming Man. You have such a big and fertile 'cock,' Your words are Your seed that often breeds and impregnates me. if only the world were such a free and accepting place, eh? Yet no one approached me and said: "i'm sorry for your loss." (i hate losing a Mans seed) lol

For some reason, this brought back a memory of a Guy about my age i hooked with a long time ago, i was in my 30's, in Baltimore when i was there on business. i was at Harborplace and a guy chatted me up. He was not able to hook right then, but wanted to the next day, He lived in Federal Hill nearby and told me he'd meet me the next day. He told me he had a boyfriend who was totally cool with him hooking up. The next day, we met up and walked the short distance to His house. We were both horny and i found Him attractive, apparently He found me attractive too. We made out, which i really liked and rarely got with a Guy. He was a smoker and self conscious about His breath, which had a smokey mint flavor from Him brushing His teeth to try an remove the scent... i didn't mind. i started to go down on Him and He shyly told me He really wanted to fuck me. i opened and happily received HIm. His good sized cock went deep when He unloaded, so i didn't realize the size of His load. Seconds after He shot, His boyfriend came into the room where we were naked and lying there. i felt really awkward, the guy was about twice as old as us and casually sat clothed on the bed next to us, freshly smelling of sex. They invited e out to eat dinner, so we got dressed and walked back over to Harborplace to a nice restaurant. While we were seated at the table ordering, i suddenly felt the Guys load trying to make it's way out of me. i panicked, we were in the middle of a nice restaurant. i excused myself and made my way to the restroom, but He had shot a huge load into me and it was not staying in. i felt His seed slide out of my hole and down my leg. In the restroom, i saw i had a wet spot on my bottom, about 3 inches across. There was nothing i could do, i made my way back to the table, i have no idea if anyone noticed.

About 2 hours ago. my awesome FB. He told me He wanted my ass so bad yesterday, but it was Christmas and He had family stuff. He told me He is feeling very relaxed with me, which i am glad for. The last 2x He has asked me if He could suck me about half way through fucking. He knows i am total bottom, so He's respectful, i just don't think He grasps what that means, even though He's heard all the words that i'm not into having my penis touched that i "don't have a cock" (i can be really cerebral about sex lol). He said He really liked it and asked if He could do it again. i really like Him, so i was okay with it, if not actually wanting or needing it. The reverse would be a no go for me, i only want a Man to do what He desires, but He seems okay with just sucking me ever though i don't cum or particularly want that. He wanted me to stand and Him kneel sucking. Doesn't last long, He gets turned on and wants to go back to fucking me. He is making more sounds, which i love. i love a verbal Man. i consider myself fortunate to have a regular FB living in a small town. He wants to fuck usually a few times a week and He always leaves me weak kneed and seeded.

For me it's never been about a "need to taste someone's cum," but a combination of several things: for me, first it's about receiving penetration from a Man who wants/needs to put His cock in me, me sucking or Him fucking is part of that penetration and expression of lust, next is receiving His orgasm/pleasure into me. When a Man has an orgasm in/because of me it's as if His orgasm becomes mine and that's an orgasm for me. i find it deeply satisfying, i'm not frustrated at all from not having my own orgasm, id much rather receive/share His. Seed/cum is the finale. i don't particularly get anything from the sense of taste when it cums to cum, taste of cum is a neutral experience for me... i do love the scent though. i always end up having His scent on my face and i never wash that off, i love continuing to smell His lust after. Drinking piss from a Mans cock has a lot of similarities for me, and i'm still working on the taste part, i find the taste sort of overwhelming, but all the other elements mentioned above, and then some, make me lust after Him doing that.

my older brother was gay (he died of AID's during the 80's), he was 13 years older than me. We never had sex, not even a hint of it. i don't get the attraction of sex with an immediate family member, have never experienced it. i did have a major crush on a cousin as a kid and teen, i still have occasional dreams where we are teens and having sex, but that never happened IRL. Cousin didn't 'feel' like immediate family to me though, more like a friend.

About a half hour ago, still feeling that shaky high that goes along with a sweet fuck. As usual lately, my beautiful FB. Apparently He was working nearby and had to leave and go back, so He had time and hit me up. He tried the last 2 days, but if i don't get His message right away, He's very spontaneous and ends up doing something else. i actually believe Him when He says i'm the only guy He's fucking? Go figure, i'd be fine if i wasn't, but feel very fortunate to be the male object of His desire (He's Bi). He fucked me 3 times, which is a first. He usually says He cums a couple of times while fucking me, idk, i can't tell because He is a silent cummer and i think He just keeps fucking after He has an orgasm. He's a Young (25) Muscle Guy and has a lot of stamina. Turns out, so do i as a bottom, i didn't wear out despite being pounded pretty hard for over an hour. Advantage of being a bottom my whole life, i'm sure plenty of my brothers here can relate. i'm definitely opened and full of cum, feels like about a gallon, pure bliss. He fucked me 2 times, me face down on my bed (my favorite position, and apparently His too), and once standing, bent over the bed, which was also fucking HOT. Between fucks He showered and asked me if l liked to get sucked. i don't really, i am truly total bottom and, while i have a penis, don't have a 'cock," just not wired to penetrate another guy. But, He's really sweet and He doesn't have a lot of experience with guys i think. He's been watching porn, like any normal guy, and has been wanting to try what He's seen of course. So i let Him suck me. He was actually pretty good at it. He wanted to try several positions. At first He tried getting me hard the way any normal Top would by jerking my penis. i explained i usually get soft from getting fucked. He asked what makes me hard, and i explained a Man wanting to fuck me or use me with His cock gets me hard. He seemed mystified by that, not sure He understood? He sucked me lying on my back, standing with him kneeling, then He wanted to lie on the bed and have me face fuck him. That one didn't last too long, pretty sure he had never done that and i don't think he really got into it, especially the gagging part. He stopped me, got this look in His eyes and said: "i want to fuck you." i have a feeling this is just part of His journey and He's probably all Top.

No doubt it was, butt then, You are the quintessential Man/Top. No flattery there, i really think that's an accurate statement. To me, You embody the desires/needs of a 'pure' Top//Man Who has cultivated and developed as a Person as well, having understanding and consideration of others, especially those who need/want You, and those You have the Strength and Power to want and need. Men like You help make life an excellent and fulfilling experience. ❤️

Maybe they're Buddhist and living in the moment, and that moment passed? Seriously though, i hear you. Online enables invisibility and removes a lot of social accountability that has evolved over time. Online interaction is an 'interesting' element of social evolution. i think the invisibility and lack of accountability serve to expose a persons true substance, or lack of the same. i think it's always been true that our real self is the person we are when no one is looking.

LMAO, yeah, sigh. i think some of the guys who ask for "reimbursement for gas" are homeless and don't even have a car. i have experience where a homeless guy was using hook up aps to find a place to crash overnght. He let it slip that he needed a decision before a certain time because that's when the shelter locked it's doors for the night. Re contacting someone 1000 miles away, depends on the venue. Some sites are obviously hook up, others are dating or meeting sites. i'm surprised when i see profiles of guys on a hook up site saying they are not looking for a hook up, but for "the love of their life" or "ltr." i guess a few of those are naive, but legit, mostly that just screams "SCAMMER ALERT" to me. On the other hand, i see the opposite where guys ramped up on testosterone will use a dating or meeting site for hook ups and treat guys looking for relationship like they stepped off another planet or are asexual, which in the gay world is tantamount to having the plague. i think the essential social policy should be: "When in Rome...." vs taking our own ethnocentricity and applying it universally. A hard call sometimes because the lines are not always clear.

The only hotel pump and dumps i have done were in Palm Springs at a gay resort, but that's kinda different. i leave my door ajar, window shade open and just enough soft lighting so that a Man looking will be able to see my lying ass up ready to receive Him. i've had some great experiences doing this and there's never any worries about security or 'getting caught' because it's a gay resort. Otherwise, if i'm feeling the need locally, i just go to an ABS. i've always gotten the most cock and cum quickly in an ABS venue. i've had 5 cocks in less than 30 minutes, can't imagine that at a hotel. Again, the security issues you have at a hotel don't really exist in the ABS venue. The laws where i live (Oregon) make it legal to have sex in these places, the "booth" is equivalent to a hotel room by legal interpretation. The local ABS where i live shares a parking lot with the State Police lol, gotta love that. i guess the one exception would be Las Vegas. i've actually had success using an ab in Vegas. The hotels are so large, purposely designed to keep people there. The sheer size of the hotel and the atmosphere of Vegas pretty much ensures there's gonna be horny Men in need. i've used hook up aps and left my door ajar in Vegas and had pretty good success. Otherwise, most of my sex has been at home. i had a lot of success when CL was around. Would post an ad and when a Guy would respond, i'd do a similar text set up as the OP. i'd give cross streets and then tell them to text me when they are there for the address. my house is a perfect set up, they come in a back door and are in my bedroom where i'm waiting ass up. Never encountered a problem doing this, except for flakes, and have had 100's of Men this way. Since CL is gone, i don't really do it anymore, i don't have success with quantity with the aps, much easier to go to an ABS for quantity.

total bottom here, so only getting applies to me. i don't like mean, forceful or bullying, and frankly, it's not necessary. For a guy to force me to take His cock would be a total disconnect because i want it lol. All He has to do is express need or desire and He's opened me. As to primal passionate fucking? Hell yeah. After a lifetime of receiving Mens penetration, cock, orgasm, seed, my hole is pretty much conditioned for that. i have a regular FB who alternates between pounding the fuck out of me while affectionately kissing my shoulders, and that drives me wild. If He gets verbal asserting how much i need and want Him and telling me to 'take' His cock, all the better, He's right. i do not perceive any mean intent though, just primal passion, and that is awesome, to me it's an expression of extreme need/desire to fuck and breed, and i have the same reciprocating need/desire to be fucked and bred, so it's symbiotic for me.

guessing WTAF= What the actual fuck?

lol, and simultaneously outed myself. i didn't get that insight from google lol.

Mostly, i think it's the venue: "online." Many of us lived and connected sans computers. We have rational and emotional memories and, probably, neuro pathways firmly established in our brains of how stuff should go. Online is different. For better or worse, online interaction does not follow all the same 'rules' that face to face does, so it can be frustrating and even confusing when we expect the same behaviors online as we have cum to know and love when we were meeting IRL. Add to that, we have a whole new generation of people who may not have much reference for what we are frustrated about because this is all they have ever know. Likely our complaints sound a little like: "get a horse" to them. meanwhile, i feel ya. i love the written word and i often have to edit my profiles to remove the venting against guys who write little or no profile. Drives me crazy, and not in a good way.

i could speculate about how a Top or versatile guy might respond, but i can only experientially speak from the physical and psychological position of a total bottom. i suspect a lot of what you are experiencing is being a bottom, stuff that all bottom guys experience, mixed in with the added element of being FTM. Every individual is going to respond individually to you, so it would be impossible to parse out if guys are responding to you as bottom or FTM, combination reasons, ad infinitum. i dated a FTM person for awhile, they ended up breaking if off because things didn't work sexually between us. i would have kept the relationship and just modified it as more platonic, but for them is was an all or nothing need/desire. i recently had another relationship end with a guy who was born with all the exterior parts, identified as "top" with me, but had ED and was not able to use his cock to fuck and breed. That is something i need baseline sexually to be fulfilled. Again, i love the guy and would have just altered our relationship to be platonic, but just like the other guy, he needed/wanted all or nothing. Interestingly, He is really turned on by FTM. He was looking for devices for me to wear, that MTF wear, because He loved the idea of me having two pussies. He was always pushing in on my penis, trying to make it look like a pussy and was sorta obsessed with that. That was a psychological kink that worked for both of us, but it could not replace or substitute for my need/desire to be penetrated and inseminated physically. For me, both were pretty much the same kind of relationship, and the issues that defined and ended the relationships came down to was sexual incompatibility. i always have the basic physical sexual need, as a total bottom, of being penetrated and inseminated by a Man. i have all sorts of kinks that, if i find Someone with compatible kinks, can really enhance a relationship. But none of those kinks are absolute sexual needs for me. Being penetrated by 'cock' and inseminated are sexual needs for me. my sexuality goes way beyond physical, and i think that's true for most, though a lot of guys don't explore or talk about the psychological side of sex. For me a Mans cock goes beyond the physical. Some guys are confused (and some totally get and love it) when i explain that, while i have a penis, i do not have a 'cock.' To me, "cock" is what a Top Man uses to penetrate and breed with, and i do not do either. This is where it gets more complex, beyond physical (for me). For me, a Man also has an inner cock that drives His physical cock. I.e., He has the need/desire to penetrate and inseminate (and much more). For me, that can take various forms. For instance, i have experienced a Man penetrating and pissing inside of me. That can get really close to fucking and breeding with semen for me. It's not the same because a big part of my psychological need/desire is to have a Man orgasm inside of me, which of course doesn't happen with piss. Still, there is a release/relief that happens that approaches orgasm for some Men. For me, i have found i need some basic things from sex: i need/want a Man to penetrate me, leave something physical of Himself inside of me (e.g., semen, piss, ______), and have a form of pleasure or release, i.e. orgasm or the relief/release He gets from pissing. i can imagine creative ways a FTM can do that, but for it to work for me, i'd have to experience both inner and outer "Cock" from Him. i've been with guys who physically fucked me with their penis, but "cock" was not all there. i've had Men use their finger or tongue or dildo or_________, and Their inner cock was so present, that what they were using became "cock" for me. It wasn't complete, but had elements. Sex is complex and wonderful, eh?

Ditto Viking8x6. There are not a lot that i know of. But here's one that is poz focused and accepting. [think before following links] https://personals.poz.com

Ditto BootmanLA. my brain went a similar direction. i concur that most of the factors one considers, if or when getting a fuck machine, are going to be personal vs universal. i'll toss in my thoughts and considerations to the discussion. i have a fuck machine, and have had it several years. i've used it maybe a dozen times? Toys in general are not a great choice for me. i do not use them on my self and have rarely ever used them with another Man/man. That gets into why i have sex, and again is a "personal" consideration. If one gets off on just the physical aspect of penetrating or being penetrated, a fuck machine is definitely a hybrid dildo that can provide some intense penetration and fucking. For me, the missing element is the Man doing the fucking. Physically speaking: skin on skin is missing. Psychosexually, it sort of depends. WIth some who use toys, you can feel that they are connected to whatever they are using, and it becomes an extension of Their desire. With others, using an object can feel mechanical and disconnected. Chances are, if you like to use a dildo on yourself, or you like your partner to do so, you'll love a fuck machine. Practically speaking, when you start looking at them, you'll find a lot of them out there (hello China), but only a couple of basic designs. Some horny carpenter got creative one day and turned his reciprocating saw into a 'fuck machine." lol, when i was younger, more than a few actual tools ended up inside my ass. A lot of the fuck machines out there are repurposed reciprocating tools, or are based on that design. Those have a shorter stroke though. Here's examples of the two basic designs (i have the first one): 1. With legs [think before following links] https://www.amazon.com/Hismith-Premium-Machine-Intellgent-Controlled/dp/B083VX56MY/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1LCFL3DTIGETJ&keywords=fuck+machine+attachments&qid=1671276961&sprefix=fuck+machine+attachments%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-5&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3 2. Without legs/platform [think before following links] https://www.amazon.com/Traveler-Frequencies-Vibrator-Portable-Thrusting/dp/B07VDDBHB1/ref=sr_1_15?crid=1LCFL3DTIGETJ&keywords=fuck+machine+attachments&qid=1671276961&sprefix=fuck+machine+attachments%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-15&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0 3. Sample of universal attachments [think before following links] https://www.amazon.com/Traditional-Machine-Machines-Attachments-Masturbation/dp/B07MGNQ2FT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1LCFL3DTIGETJ&keywords=fuck+machine+attachments&qid=1671276961&sprefix=fuck+machine+attachments%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc A couple of practical things i'd consider are: Size. Not of the dildo. Most machines will have the option of interchangeable dildos (see links above). Again, most use repurposed items. In this case, i've seen fast attachments used for compressor air tools used for that function. There's two basic designs, as seen in the links above, with multitude variations on those designs. Those that look like repurposed reciprocating saws, and then those that look like they were designed to fuck from the get go. i discovered size matters for a few reasons. Some are hand held, so those have the positioning and stability of the person holding the machine. If not, the machine will have to be positioned somewhere to get between your legs and into your ass. Sounds basic, but it really isn't. The weight and versatility of a live body fucking will never compare to a stationary machine. The legs and wires all have o go somewhere and be accommodated. Are you on a bed? The bed is not a stable surface to be placing a machine on and the weigh of the machine is never going to equal the weight of the guy getting fucked. Keep in mind, your attached to the machine via your asshole lol, unless there is someone else controlling the machine, the guy getting fucked is usually gonna be the 'dom' just by virtue of him weighing more. Bottom line there is, try to imagine how and where you will use it, then try to be practical about it. Will it really work that way or is it just a fantasy that will be hard or impossible to accomplish in reality. Again, if we're talking using this solo, it's a machine you'll have to place and adapt your body to vs it actually adapting to and fucking you. Essentially, your topping and riding the machine.

We are so on the same page with this, i'm just broadening this beyond my own cultural ethnocentricity. i was mind blown after reading "Infidel" by Ayaan Hirsi Ali,. where she journals her journey through and out of fundamentalist Islam. While reading her autobiography, i was struck by all the similarities between her religious cultural influences and those in US fundamentalist Christianity. So much of the same script, just different characters/actors Speaking of Mormonism, "Educated" by Tara Westover is another expose' of the poison that is fundamentalism. Great discussion, thanks for your salient contributions.

i think the mind fuck goes beyond the Christian religion and has it's underlying cause in fundamentalism. i see the same effect in other 'conservative' forms of religions like Islam and Orthodox Judaism, for instance. As i see it, the "mind fuck" comes from people who are convinced they can read a book and know what "God" thinks/wants. The result is a shift from belief to "knowledge." Even science, in it's purest form admits that the results of research are what we 'know' so far. Science allows for questioning, fundamentalism does not. Fundamentalists are absolutists who assert and equate their rhetoric with "God," and that is what gets conditioned into people. When one violates the rhetoric, the feeling is (e.g. guilt, shame, fear) they are not going against a belief system, they are going against "God." One can assess, examine, analyze a belief system, but that gets tricky (read: "impossible") when one has to apply the same approach to an invisible entity. Humans rely on senses for input, science allows for our humanity, so it's reasonable approach to discovering what is. Fundamentalism uses something similar, but relies on a written document that supposedly records past events where people experienced "God" with their senses. But unlike science, continued fundamentalist religious belief does not require that the stuff in their scriptures be replicated and demonstrated as accurate.

10m minutes ago. my FB, He just finished working out at the gym and felt horny, so now i'm full of His cum. He makes me moan a lot. Happy Tuesday.